How hard is it today with computers to show Federal funds ARE NOT used for abortions by PP?

[Wilbur Right]

Heath myths, if you dont want an abortion, dont get one.

 

[healthmyths]

Do Republican women have abortions or not? Simple question health.

And why do you care if Democrats abort their Democratic babies or not? You dont care much for them when they can vote.

So what gives?

I am in favor as in MOST conservatives of an abortion in the cases of : Rape, incest or health of the mother.

WHAT I"M not in favor of is the wholesale murder by women especially black women who have already had an abortion and have another, and another ....
FACTS are.. 44% of abortions were performed on women that are not responsible or why else would they all have had a previous abortion.

36.6% were performed on women with one or two prior abortions, and
8.1% were performed on women with three or more prior abortions (CDC).
44.7% or nearly half by women are either stupid, definitely don't use birth control continue to act as pre-meditated murders at that point.

3 reasons for ELECTING abortion:
-- say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities; about
-- say they cannot afford a child; and
-- say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner (AGI).
U.S. Abortion Statistics

In 2009, a total of 286,623 blacks died in the U.S.
That same year, an estimated 1.21 million abortions took place in the United States.
If 35.4% were performed on black women, that means almost twice as many blacks were killed by abortion as by all other causes.
In 2010, the black population in the U.S. stood just shy of at 39 million.
The CDC reports that during the 1970's, roughly 24% of all U.S. abortions were performed on black women.
Abortion and Race

Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities.
Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America.
The following from a black person...
"Are we being targeted? Isn't that genocide? We are the only minority in America that is on the decline in population. If the current trend continues,
by 2038 the black vote will be insignificant. Did you know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a devout racist who created the Negro Project designed to sterilize unknowing black women and others she deemed as undesirables of society? The founder of Planned Parenthood said, "Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated." Is her vision being fulfilled today?"
BlackGenocide.org | Planned Parenthood

So what conclusion should anyone come to other then Planned Parenthood executing their Founder's ethnic cleansing helps facilitate the abortions especially on blacks and then selling the body parts.
And you people approve of the above statistics!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Your numbers are not accurate, in that the feds do not pay for abortions. End of story.

 

[healthmyths]

Your numbers are not accurate, in that the feds do not pay for abortions. End of story.

FACTS!
From PP annual report! How much more accurate is that?
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/6714/1996/2641/2013-2014_Annual_Report_FINAL_WEB_VERSION.pdf
NOTE: Government Health Services Grants $528.4 million!
How much more accurate is that!

How many abortions does Planned Parenthood perform?
From PP own Annual report...

A) Government Health Services funds $528.4 million or 46% of the $1.145 Billion in revenue.
B) 327,653 abortions performed.

Conclusion: Government funds including Federal tax monies in the form of GRANTS... were used to perform abortions!

What other conclusion is there???

 

[Rotagilla]

computers?..propaganda in = propaganda out.

 

[WorldWatcher]

FACTS!
From PP annual report! How much more accurate is that?
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/6714/1996/2641/2013-2014_Annual_Report_FINAL_WEB_VERSION.pdf
NOTE: Government Health Services Grants $528.4 million!
How much more accurate is that!
View attachment 56180

How many abortions does Planned Parenthood perform?
From PP own Annual report...
View attachment 56181

A) Government Health Services funds $528.4 million or 46% of the $1.145 Billion in revenue.
B) 327,653 abortions performed.

Conclusion: Government funds including Federal tax monies in the form of GRANTS... were used to perform abortions!

What other conclusion is there???

In your hurry you claim the $528 was from GRANTS ignoring that it was actually grants and reimbursements. Reimbursements being for services performed.

Secondly, you ignore that overhead costs for abortion services would be included in the fee for abortions. Just to make the numbers easy.

Let's say over head cost for space equals $100 and that the facility operates 10 hours per day. A one hour procedure has an overhead cost for space equal to $10. If an abortion procedure for labor and consumables is $490, then the charge is $500. The $10 above the procedure cost for overhead accounts for federal funds not being used directly for abortion services.

I work for an organization (not PP BTW) that partially operates off grants funds and yes - we have to keep separate accounts and account procedures for general funds and grant funds and are audited every year for compliance.



But never mind, you will ignore logic anyway.


>>>>

 

[Dana7360]

The burden of proof is with the accuser

The law is explicit. No funds can be used for abortions.
PP promotes it does abortions.
MY tax dollars go to PP.
Therefore the law is being violated because it is :
A) Clear PP accepts FF funds.
B) PP does abortions.
Therefore Federal funds are used for abortions in violation of the law.
Unless PP can show this is the case, PP is in violation clear and simple.

They do exactly that. Abortion is separate from all other health care.

Which is one of the reasons why most PP facilities don't perform abortion.

They keep the money separate.

They have a program for political action, one for education and another for abortions.

I've donated to all of them. The political action isn't tax deductible. All other donations are.

Learn about something before you post.

 

[Dana7360]

The burden of proof is with the accuser

The law is explicit. No funds can be used for abortions.
PP promotes it does abortions.
MY tax dollars go to PP.
Therefore the law is being violated because it is :
A) Clear PP accepts FF funds.
B) PP does abortions.
Therefore Federal funds are used for abortions in violation of the law.
Unless PP can show this is the case, PP is in violation clear and simple.

Were you homeschooled?

I was schooled in a public system at a time when public schools were more proficient then you as you appear to be recent public school drop out
.

But if I were that would be a compliment as :15 Key Facts About Homeschooled Kids in College - OnlineCollege.org

1. HOMESCHOOLERS OFTEN ENTER COLLEGE WITH MORE CREDIT
   Homeschooled students are able to work at their own pace, and as a result, students have the freedom to move significantly faster than those in a traditional classroom. Michael Cogan, a researcher at the University of St. Thomas, discovered that homeschool students typically earn more college credits before their freshman year than traditional students, with 14.7 credits for homeschoolers, and 6.0 for traditional students. Earning college credit before freshman year can save thousands of dollars and shave time off of a degree. The 14.7 average credits for homeschoolers represent a full semester of freshman year, which is typically 12-15 credit hours.
   
   
2. HOMESCHOOL STUDENTS DO BETTER ON THE SAT AND ACT
   Perhaps benefiting from personalized test prep, homeschool students typically score higher on standardized college admissions tests. The homeschool average for the ACT was 22.5 in 2003, compared with the national average of 20.8. The SAT was no different, with a homeschool average of 1092 in 2002, and a national average of 1020. ACT and SAT scores are very important for college admissions and even financial aid, so doing well on these tests is vital to a great college experience.
   
   
3. HOMESCHOOL GPAS ARE CONSISTENTLY HIGHER
   As a homeschooled student, you work on a flexible schedule. Young children may rely greatly on their parents for scheduling and instruction, but high schoolers typically become more autonomous in their studies, learning key skills for success as independent students in college. Research indicates that this time spent learning how to study independently pays off, as homeschoolers typically have higher GPAs than the rest of their class. Homeschool freshmen have higher GPAs in their first semester at college, with 3.37 GPAs for homeschoolers, and 3.08 for the rest. This trend continues with an overall freshman GPA of 3.41 vs. 3.12, and senior GPAs of 3.46 vs. 3.16, indicating that homeschoolers are better prepared for college.
   
   
4. HOMESCHOOLED STUDENTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO ATTEND COLLEGE
   Homeschooled students seem to be more likely to participate in college-level education. As reported by the Homeschool Legal Defense Association, more than 74% of home educated adults between 18-24 have taken college level courses. This rate is much higher than the general US population, which comes in at 46% for the same age range.
   
   
5. HOMESCHOOLERS ARE EVERYWHERE
   Patrick Henry College is one college that specifically caters to the homeschool population, but homeschoolers are increasingly accepted in a wide variety of colleges and universities. In fact, homeschoolers are now in over 900 different colleges and universities, many of them with rigorous admissions. Some of these colleges include Harvard, Cornell, Princeton, Dartmouth, Brown, and Rice University.
   
   
6. HOMESCHOOLED STUDENTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO GRADUATE
   Making it to college is one thing, but actually sticking around and graduating is another. Students who have homeschooled will typically do better than other students, with a slightly higher retention rate, at 88.6% vs 87.6% for traditional students. Graduation rates show a higher disparity between homeschoolers and the national average, with 66.7% of homeschooled students graduating, compared to 57.5%.
   
   
7. SOME COLLEGES ACTIVELY RECRUIT HOMESCHOOL STUDENTS
   Homeschool students have proven themselves to be so outstanding that several colleges have begun to actively recruit them. Boston University, Nyack College, and Dartmouth are among them, with a Dartmouth College admissions officer recognizing, “The applications [from homeschoolers] I’ve come across are outstanding. Homeschoolers have a distinct advantage because of the individualized instruction they have received.”
   
   
8. HOMESCHOOLED STUDENTS ARE VERY LIKELY TO SUCCEED IN COLLEGE
   Research and probability indicates that homeschooled students typically do very well in college, not just academically, but socially as well. Skills learned in homeschooling translate very well to the college campus, with strong self-discipline and motivation. Colleges recognize this advantage, including Brown University representative Joyce Reed, who shares, “These kids are the epitome of Brown students.” She believes they make a good fit with the university because “they’ve learned to be self-directed, they take risks, they face challenges with total fervor, and they don’t back off.”
   
   
9. HIGH SCHOOL TRANSCRIPTS ARE OFTEN NOT REQUIRED FOR COLLEGE ADMISSIONS
   Although traditional students will typically be expected to submit their high school transcript, homeschooled students usually do not need one, submitting other information instead. Sixty-eight percent of US universities will accept parent-prepared transcripts. Others will take portfolios, with letters of recommendation, ACT or SAT test scores, essays, and more, allowing homeschooled applicants flexibility in admissions.
   
   
10. HOMESCHOOLERS CAN PLAY COLLEGE SPORTS
    As long as they meet standardized guidelines, homeschooled athletes can be awarded freshman eligibility to participate in college level sports. The number of homeschooled students participating in sports is growing as well, with up to 10 each year in 1988-1993, and as many as 75 students in the late 90s. Homeschool waiver applicants are typically approved, and in the 1998-1999 school year all applicants in Divisions I and II were approved, indicating not only an increased interest in college sports from homeschoolers, but an excellent openness in participation.
    
    
11. MANY HOMESCHOOLERS ARE NATIONAL MERIT SCHOLARS
    The National Merit Scholar program is an academic competition offering prestige and cold hard scholarship cash for high achieving students. The number of homeschool National Merit Scholars is increasing at a high rate: in 1995, there were 21 homeschool finalists, compared with 129 in 2003, a 500% increase. Homeschoolers are clearly doing well in their studies, and as a result, are reaping the rewards in scholarship money to use in school.
    
    
12. HOMESCHOOLED STUDENTS MAY HAVE HIGHER COLLEGE ACCEPTANCE RATES
    Colleges and universities often recognize that homeschooled students tend to be exceptional in their academic performance, and combined with advanced studies and extracurricular activities, make great candidates for admission. In addition to actively seeking out homeschooled applicants, colleges may also be accepting more of them. In the fall of 1999, Stanford University accepted 27% of homeschooled applicants. This doesn’t sound like a lot, but it’s an incredible number when you consider that this rate is twice the acceptance rate experienced by public and private school students admitted in the same semester.
    
    
13. HOMESCHOOL STUDENTS ARE OFTEN IN HONORS PROGRAMS
    High achieving homeschool students can benefit from advanced curriculum in college, which is why so many of them end up in honors programs once they go on to study at universities. At Ball State University, most homeschooled freshmen were admitted at a higher level than regular students. Eighty percent of homeschool students were admitted to “upper levels of admission,” and 67% were in the Honors College.

You're an idiot.

A woman who goes to PP for an abortion has to pay for it herself, or with her personal insurance, unless she is eligible for financial assistance based on her income.

The woman applies for PP financial aid. She does not apply for financial aid out of the federal funds PP receives.

Also some states pay for abortions.

Yes my state does.

We had the chance to vote on it in the early 80s. It easily passed and my state had been using state Medicaid dollars to pay for an abortion for any reason for poor women for over 30 years.

 

[Dana7360]

The burden of proof is with the accuser

The law is explicit. No funds can be used for abortions.
PP promotes it does abortions.
MY tax dollars go to PP.
Therefore the law is being violated because it is :
A) Clear PP accepts FF funds.
B) PP does abortions.
Therefore Federal funds are used for abortions in violation of the law.
Unless PP can show this is the case, PP is in violation clear and simple.

Were you homeschooled?

I was schooled in a public system at a time when public schools were more proficient then you as you appear to be recent public school drop out
.

But if I were that would be a compliment as :15 Key Facts About Homeschooled Kids in College - OnlineCollege.org

1. HOMESCHOOLERS OFTEN ENTER COLLEGE WITH MORE CREDIT
   Homeschooled students are able to work at their own pace, and as a result, students have the freedom to move significantly faster than those in a traditional classroom. Michael Cogan, a researcher at the University of St. Thomas, discovered that homeschool students typically earn more college credits before their freshman year than traditional students, with 14.7 credits for homeschoolers, and 6.0 for traditional students. Earning college credit before freshman year can save thousands of dollars and shave time off of a degree. The 14.7 average credits for homeschoolers represent a full semester of freshman year, which is typically 12-15 credit hours.
   
   
2. HOMESCHOOL STUDENTS DO BETTER ON THE SAT AND ACT
   Perhaps benefiting from personalized test prep, homeschool students typically score higher on standardized college admissions tests. The homeschool average for the ACT was 22.5 in 2003, compared with the national average of 20.8. The SAT was no different, with a homeschool average of 1092 in 2002, and a national average of 1020. ACT and SAT scores are very important for college admissions and even financial aid, so doing well on these tests is vital to a great college experience.
   
   
3. HOMESCHOOL GPAS ARE CONSISTENTLY HIGHER
   As a homeschooled student, you work on a flexible schedule. Young children may rely greatly on their parents for scheduling and instruction, but high schoolers typically become more autonomous in their studies, learning key skills for success as independent students in college. Research indicates that this time spent learning how to study independently pays off, as homeschoolers typically have higher GPAs than the rest of their class. Homeschool freshmen have higher GPAs in their first semester at college, with 3.37 GPAs for homeschoolers, and 3.08 for the rest. This trend continues with an overall freshman GPA of 3.41 vs. 3.12, and senior GPAs of 3.46 vs. 3.16, indicating that homeschoolers are better prepared for college.
   
   
4. HOMESCHOOLED STUDENTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO ATTEND COLLEGE
   Homeschooled students seem to be more likely to participate in college-level education. As reported by the Homeschool Legal Defense Association, more than 74% of home educated adults between 18-24 have taken college level courses. This rate is much higher than the general US population, which comes in at 46% for the same age range.
   
   
5. HOMESCHOOLERS ARE EVERYWHERE
   Patrick Henry College is one college that specifically caters to the homeschool population, but homeschoolers are increasingly accepted in a wide variety of colleges and universities. In fact, homeschoolers are now in over 900 different colleges and universities, many of them with rigorous admissions. Some of these colleges include Harvard, Cornell, Princeton, Dartmouth, Brown, and Rice University.
   
   
6. HOMESCHOOLED STUDENTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO GRADUATE
   Making it to college is one thing, but actually sticking around and graduating is another. Students who have homeschooled will typically do better than other students, with a slightly higher retention rate, at 88.6% vs 87.6% for traditional students. Graduation rates show a higher disparity between homeschoolers and the national average, with 66.7% of homeschooled students graduating, compared to 57.5%.
   
   
7. SOME COLLEGES ACTIVELY RECRUIT HOMESCHOOL STUDENTS
   Homeschool students have proven themselves to be so outstanding that several colleges have begun to actively recruit them. Boston University, Nyack College, and Dartmouth are among them, with a Dartmouth College admissions officer recognizing, “The applications [from homeschoolers] I’ve come across are outstanding. Homeschoolers have a distinct advantage because of the individualized instruction they have received.”
   
   
8. HOMESCHOOLED STUDENTS ARE VERY LIKELY TO SUCCEED IN COLLEGE
   Research and probability indicates that homeschooled students typically do very well in college, not just academically, but socially as well. Skills learned in homeschooling translate very well to the college campus, with strong self-discipline and motivation. Colleges recognize this advantage, including Brown University representative Joyce Reed, who shares, “These kids are the epitome of Brown students.” She believes they make a good fit with the university because “they’ve learned to be self-directed, they take risks, they face challenges with total fervor, and they don’t back off.”
   
   
9. HIGH SCHOOL TRANSCRIPTS ARE OFTEN NOT REQUIRED FOR COLLEGE ADMISSIONS
   Although traditional students will typically be expected to submit their high school transcript, homeschooled students usually do not need one, submitting other information instead. Sixty-eight percent of US universities will accept parent-prepared transcripts. Others will take portfolios, with letters of recommendation, ACT or SAT test scores, essays, and more, allowing homeschooled applicants flexibility in admissions.
   
   
10. HOMESCHOOLERS CAN PLAY COLLEGE SPORTS
    As long as they meet standardized guidelines, homeschooled athletes can be awarded freshman eligibility to participate in college level sports. The number of homeschooled students participating in sports is growing as well, with up to 10 each year in 1988-1993, and as many as 75 students in the late 90s. Homeschool waiver applicants are typically approved, and in the 1998-1999 school year all applicants in Divisions I and II were approved, indicating not only an increased interest in college sports from homeschoolers, but an excellent openness in participation.
    
    
11. MANY HOMESCHOOLERS ARE NATIONAL MERIT SCHOLARS
    The National Merit Scholar program is an academic competition offering prestige and cold hard scholarship cash for high achieving students. The number of homeschool National Merit Scholars is increasing at a high rate: in 1995, there were 21 homeschool finalists, compared with 129 in 2003, a 500% increase. Homeschoolers are clearly doing well in their studies, and as a result, are reaping the rewards in scholarship money to use in school.
    
    
12. HOMESCHOOLED STUDENTS MAY HAVE HIGHER COLLEGE ACCEPTANCE RATES
    Colleges and universities often recognize that homeschooled students tend to be exceptional in their academic performance, and combined with advanced studies and extracurricular activities, make great candidates for admission. In addition to actively seeking out homeschooled applicants, colleges may also be accepting more of them. In the fall of 1999, Stanford University accepted 27% of homeschooled applicants. This doesn’t sound like a lot, but it’s an incredible number when you consider that this rate is twice the acceptance rate experienced by public and private school students admitted in the same semester.
    
    
13. HOMESCHOOL STUDENTS ARE OFTEN IN HONORS PROGRAMS
    High achieving homeschool students can benefit from advanced curriculum in college, which is why so many of them end up in honors programs once they go on to study at universities. At Ball State University, most homeschooled freshmen were admitted at a higher level than regular students. Eighty percent of homeschool students were admitted to “upper levels of admission,” and 67% were in the Honors College.

You're an idiot.

A woman who goes to PP for an abortion has to pay for it herself, or with her personal insurance, unless she is eligible for financial assistance based on her income.

The woman applies for PP financial aid. She does not apply for financial aid out of the federal funds PP receives.

Also some states pay for abortions.

PP gets federal funds. They use those funds to pay for the abortion.
If some states want to pay THAT is their prerogative and I've no problem with that!
But you and obviously PP can NOT show that those Federal Funds are used for financial aid to then pay PP for abortions!

Yes they do. They've been doing it since the Hyde amendment passed.

They have several programs and all the money is separate. I've donated money to all of their different programs. They all have different titles and all the money is kept separate.

If they didn't the republicans would have made a big stink about it and found a way to stop it.

You're accusing PP of something they don't do and you have not presented any proof of your claim.

The only reason why republicans are trying to defund PP is they don't like abortions and birth control.

 

[rightwinger]

Your numbers are not accurate, in that the feds do not pay for abortions. End of story.

FACTS!
From PP annual report! How much more accurate is that?
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/6714/1996/2641/2013-2014_Annual_Report_FINAL_WEB_VERSION.pdf
NOTE: Government Health Services Grants $528.4 million!
How much more accurate is that!
View attachment 56180

How many abortions does Planned Parenthood perform?
From PP own Annual report...
View attachment 56181

A) Government Health Services funds $528.4 million or 46% of the $1.145 Billion in revenue.
B) 327,653 abortions performed.

Conclusion: Government funds including Federal tax monies in the form of GRANTS... were used to perform abortions!

What other conclusion is there???

Sorry ...but your numbers do nothing to support your conclusions

 

[Dana7360]

Where is your proof? You are the "authority"???? Come on bozo! Prove your statements!

He does not have to prove anything until you offer concrete evidence. You have not, so he does not have to.

Another right winger conservative who had no problem with showing everyone in cyberspace that they've never read all of the constitution.

It's there plain as day. Innocent until proven guilty. The accused is not obligated to show any evidence. The prosecution/state does.

They have to prove their case and the accused is innocent until proven guilty.

Not the other way around.

Those right wingers sure are proud of their stupidity.

 

[Arianrhod]

The Hyde Amendment is a legislative provision barring the use of certain federal funds to pay for abortion unless the pregnancy arises from incest, rape, or to save the life of the mother.
The Hyde Amendment is not a permanent law, but rather is a "rider" that in various forms has been routinely attached to annual appropriations bills since 1976. Legislation including the Hyde Amendment generally only restricts the use of funds allocated for the Department of Health and Human Services and primarily affects Medicaid.

So how difficult would it be for Planned Parenthood (PP) to keep separate books?
One set showing expenditures/receipts for NON-Federal Funds and another set of expenditures/receipts for Federal funds?

Now this would mean PP would have to have abortions done in separate unattached facilities so that
all the operating expenses i.e. utilities, lease payments, as well as equipment, and employee salaries
paid out of the separate NON-Federal funds account.

You'd think PP would eliminate ANY of the violation of the Hyde Amendment simply by having these
stand alone facilities. That way all expenses would be paid from NON-Federal Funds?

Until PP can show that NO FEDERAL FUNDS are used for abortions, then Federal funding is in violation of the HYDE Amendment.

Why don't you admit your true agenda? You're demanding the right to find a list of patients' names somewhere. It's not going to happen. Get a life.

 

[Dana7360]

Do Republican women have abortions or not? Simple question health.

And why do you care if Democrats abort their Democratic babies or not? You dont care much for them when they can vote.

So what gives?

I am in favor as in MOST conservatives of an abortion in the cases of : Rape, incest or health of the mother.

WHAT I"M not in favor of is the wholesale murder by women especially black women who have already had an abortion and have another, and another ....
FACTS are.. 44% of abortions were performed on women that are not responsible or why else would they all have had a previous abortion.

36.6% were performed on women with one or two prior abortions, and
8.1% were performed on women with three or more prior abortions (CDC).
44.7% or nearly half by women are either stupid, definitely don't use birth control continue to act as pre-meditated murders at that point.

3 reasons for ELECTING abortion:
-- say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities; about
-- say they cannot afford a child; and
-- say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner (AGI).
U.S. Abortion Statistics

In 2009, a total of 286,623 blacks died in the U.S.
That same year, an estimated 1.21 million abortions took place in the United States.
If 35.4% were performed on black women, that means almost twice as many blacks were killed by abortion as by all other causes.
In 2010, the black population in the U.S. stood just shy of at 39 million.
The CDC reports that during the 1970's, roughly 24% of all U.S. abortions were performed on black women.
Abortion and Race

Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities.
Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America.
The following from a black person...
"Are we being targeted? Isn't that genocide? We are the only minority in America that is on the decline in population. If the current trend continues,
by 2038 the black vote will be insignificant. Did you know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a devout racist who created the Negro Project designed to sterilize unknowing black women and others she deemed as undesirables of society? The founder of Planned Parenthood said, "Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated." Is her vision being fulfilled today?"
BlackGenocide.org | Planned Parenthood

So what conclusion should anyone come to other then Planned Parenthood executing their Founder's ethnic cleansing helps facilitate the abortions especially on blacks and then selling the body parts.
And you people approve of the above statistics!

And you further show how ignorant you are of the law and medicine.

No one can have an abortion back to back. It's illegal.

The law states that there must be at least 6 months between abortions.

The reason for it is the woman can end up infertile if abortions are performed too close together or if the woman has too many abortions in her lifetime.

Which means your statement of abortions over and over or using abortion as birth control is nothing but a big fat pile of stinking garbage.

Learn about a subject before you post.

 

[JakeStarkey]

healthmyths, your numbers do not support the OP.

No, simply no, you have no right to the patients' names.

 

[healthmyths]

Do Republican women have abortions or not? Simple question health.

And why do you care if Democrats abort their Democratic babies or not? You dont care much for them when they can vote.

So what gives?

I am in favor as in MOST conservatives of an abortion in the cases of : Rape, incest or health of the mother.

WHAT I"M not in favor of is the wholesale murder by women especially black women who have already had an abortion and have another, and another ....
FACTS are.. 44% of abortions were performed on women that are not responsible or why else would they all have had a previous abortion.

36.6% were performed on women with one or two prior abortions, and
8.1% were performed on women with three or more prior abortions (CDC).
44.7% or nearly half by women are either stupid, definitely don't use birth control continue to act as pre-meditated murders at that point.

3 reasons for ELECTING abortion:
-- say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities; about
-- say they cannot afford a child; and
-- say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner (AGI).
U.S. Abortion Statistics

In 2009, a total of 286,623 blacks died in the U.S.
That same year, an estimated 1.21 million abortions took place in the United States.
If 35.4% were performed on black women, that means almost twice as many blacks were killed by abortion as by all other causes.
In 2010, the black population in the U.S. stood just shy of at 39 million.
The CDC reports that during the 1970's, roughly 24% of all U.S. abortions were performed on black women.
Abortion and Race

Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities.
Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America.
The following from a black person...
"Are we being targeted? Isn't that genocide? We are the only minority in America that is on the decline in population. If the current trend continues,
by 2038 the black vote will be insignificant. Did you know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a devout racist who created the Negro Project designed to sterilize unknowing black women and others she deemed as undesirables of society? The founder of Planned Parenthood said, "Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated." Is her vision being fulfilled today?"
BlackGenocide.org | Planned Parenthood

So what conclusion should anyone come to other then Planned Parenthood executing their Founder's ethnic cleansing helps facilitate the abortions especially on blacks and then selling the body parts.
And you people approve of the above statistics!

And you further show how ignorant you are of the law and medicine.

No one can have an abortion back to back. It's illegal.

The law states that there must be at least 6 months between abortions.

The reason for it is the woman can end up infertile if abortions are performed too close together or if the woman has too many abortions in her lifetime.

Which means your statement of abortions over and over or using abortion as birth control is nothing but a big fat pile of stinking garbage.

Learn about a subject before you post.

HEY I DIDN"T come up with those statistics!!! Do talk to me about ACCURACY!!!!

THE CENTERS for Disease control provided these statistics:!!!

• In 2012, women who had not aborted in the past accounted for 55.7% of all abortions;
• women with one or two prior abortions accounted for 35.6%,
• and women with three or more prior abortions accounted for 8.6% (CDC).

U.S. Abortion Statistics

Now what the hell was your complaint???

 

[healthmyths]

healthmyths, your numbers do not support the OP.

No, simply no, you have no right to the patients' names.

When will you idiots follow the links?????

THE CDC provided the numbers!!!
CDC for you ignorant people BLAMING ME is the federal government's Center For Disease Control!
Dumb shits!!!

U.S. Abortion Statistics

WHO HAS ABORTIONS?

• In 2012, unmarried women accounted for 85.3% of all abortions (CDC).
• Women living with a partner to whom they are not married account for 25% of abortions but only about 10% of women in the population (NAF).
• In 2012, women who had not aborted in the past accounted for 55.7% of all abortions;
• women with one or two prior abortions accounted for 35.6%, and
• women with three or more prior abortions accounted for 8.6% (CDC).
• Among women who obtained abortions in 2012, 40.3% had no prior live births; 45.8% had one or two prior live births, and 14.0% had three or more prior live births (CDC).
  
• Women between the ages of 20-24 obtained 32.8% of all abortions in 2012; women between 25-29 obtained 25.4% (CDC).
• In 2012, adolescents under 15 years obtained .04% of all abortions, but had the highest abortion ratio: 817 abortions for every 1,000 live births (CDC).
• Black women were 3.6 times more likely to have an abortion in 2012 than non-Hispanic white women (CDC).

 

[healthmyths]

Where is your proof? You are the "authority"???? Come on bozo! Prove your statements!

He does not have to prove anything until you offer concrete evidence. You have not, so he does not have to.

Another right winger conservative who had no problem with showing everyone in cyberspace that they've never read all of the constitution.

It's there plain as day. Innocent until proven guilty. The accused is not obligated to show any evidence. The prosecution/state does.

They have to prove their case and the accused is innocent until proven guilty.

Not the other way around.

Those right wingers sure are proud of their stupidity.

And we are NOT talking about someone being accused of murder!
We are talking about PP doing abortions AGAINST the law with federal funds!
Pretty damn obvious if PP takes $528 million as they SAID:

And they show

They did 327,653 abortions what conclusions must be made that they are doing it with Federal funds........AGAINST THE LAW!!!
They admit they are doing abortions. They admit receiving Federal Funds. They can't show they pay for the abortion expenses with non federal funds!
Case closed! They will be DEFUNDED!

 

[WorldWatcher]

They did 327,653 abortions what conclusions must be made that they are doing it with Federal funds........AGAINST THE LAW!!!

No that conclusion must not be made. That's what you want to project, but that is not necessarily a valid conclusion.

They admit they are doing abortions. They admit receiving Federal Funds. They can't show they pay for the abortion expenses with non federal funds!

Sure they can, see there is this whole section of business practice called "accounting" where an organization tracks revenue and expenses and shows how money is spent. Then there are things called "audits" in which an outside agency comes in and monitors the accounting done by the organization.

We have audits every year to ensure our general revenue funds are not co-mingled with out grant funds and that expenditures are tracked correctly.

Case closed!

Not really.

They will be DEFUNDED!

Possibly, but it will be due to appeals to emotion and not because of what you claim.



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[JakeStarkey]

healthmyths has failed in the OP to show the federal government is paying for abortions.

Close the thread, please.

 

[rightwinger]

healthmyths has failed in the OP to show the federal government is paying for abortions.

Close the thread, please.

Good luck with that

He will start the same thread tomorrow