How far is the US from Fascism ?

[westwall]

American fascism, like German, has left and right wings.

There is no right wing fascism. It is ALL leftwing because it is collectivist. Rightwing is NO GOVERNMENT.

 

[surada]

American fascism, like German, has left and right wings.

No it doesn't. Do your homework instead of assuming.

 

[westwall]

We have it now, whether it "exploded" in the forties or the nineties. It is entrenched in the system and is not going away.

Maybe.

 

[westwall]

No it doesn't. Do your homework instead of assuming.

You do yours. All you do is repeat Fabian Socialist propaganda

 

[surada]

There is no right wing fascism. It is ALL leftwing because it is collectivist. Rightwing is NO GOVERNMENT.

That's so damned ignorant.. Fascism has always been hard right since Mussolini.

The link is about shot cards. You're wrong about that too.

International Certificate of Vaccination or Prophylaxis (ICVP) | Travelers' Health | CDC

International Certificate of Vaccination or Prophylaxis (ICVP)

wwwnc.cdc.gov

 

[Theowl32]

Let's kick an ants nest and let the stupid left know that the nazis were and are socialists and fascism and socialism is the same.

 

[westwall]

No it doesn't. Do your homework instead of assuming.

You do yours. All you do is repeat Fabian Socialist propaganda

That's so damned ignorant.. Fascism has always been hard right since Mussolini.

The link is about shot cards. You're wrong about that too.

International Certificate of Vaccination or Prophylaxis (ICVP) | Travelers' Health | CDC

International Certificate of Vaccination or Prophylaxis (ICVP)

wwwnc.cdc.gov

Like I said, you merely repeat Fabian Socialist propaganda. They have been pushing that lie for over 100 years, because ultimately they get their wish....socialism.

 

[surada]

Let's kick an ants nest and let the stupid left know that the nazis were and are socialists and fascism and socialism is the same.

Nazism, socialism and the falsification of history - ABC Religion & Ethics

If the Nazis were so obviously anti-socialist and committed to private property, and if socialists were among the earliest victims of the Nazi party, why are some claiming Hitler was a socialist?

www.abc.net.au

The Nazis Weren’t Socialists — They Were Hypercapitalists

Right-wingers love to insist that members of Adolf Hitler’s party were socialists. But Nazism’s real economic policies upheld hypercapitalist principles rooted in social Darwinist ideas about the value of human life. They weren’t socialists at all.

jacobin.com

 

[westwall]

Nazism, socialism and the falsification of history - ABC Religion & Ethics

If the Nazis were so obviously anti-socialist and committed to private property, and if socialists were among the earliest victims of the Nazi party, why are some claiming Hitler was a socialist?

www.abc.net.au

The Nazis Weren’t Socialists — They Were Hypercapitalists

Right-wingers love to insist that members of Adolf Hitler’s party were socialists. But Nazism’s real economic policies upheld hypercapitalist principles rooted in social Darwinist ideas about the value of human life. They weren’t socialists at all.

jacobin.com

Yeah, they were socialist. Everything you just posted is Fabian Socialist horseshit.

Educate yourself!

 

[surada]

Yeah, they were socialist. Everything you just posted is Fabian Socialist horseshit.

Educate yourself!

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultra nationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and/or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

 

[westwall]

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultra nationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and/or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

No, it isn't you simpleton. ALL collectivist governments are LEFTWING. The ABSENCE of government is RIGHTWING. It ain't a circle, moron.

It's a line, total government on one side, and no government on the other.

 

[Rambunctious]

This may interest you.

Fascism="Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power” ― Benito Mussolini - Chicago Public Library

Fascism="Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power” ― Benito Mussolini by Rattusnorvegicus - a community-created list : “The 10 pillars of fascism are: ..number one, a mythic past, a great mythic past which the leader harkens back…Number two, propaganda. There’s a certain...

chipublib.bibliocommons.com

Like the Biden white house and Facebook and twitter....

 

[jbander]

I give you the German American Bund. Americas own Nazis.

I didnt know a lot about these characters apart from their anti semitism. But the parallels with the modern GOP continue.

Like trump they had charges of fraud made by the New York DA. And like trump their followers claimed immunity because their leaders could do no wrong.

They ran summer camps so that kids could be trained to be good nazis. Some of those poor kids will still be around today.

There was also a catholic priest who had a radio show. Fathrer Coughlin used his platform to preach anti immigrant rhetoric. He was a huge star at the time. A bit like tucker or the fake preachers.

Pretty much similar to todays fake Christians.Their message is not rooted in the word of Jesus.

There really is nothing new or original about trump. He is just riffing the old hits. America should teach kids about the Bund but I suspect that they wont get mentioned in places like Florida.

The only book shitpants has ever read in his life is "My New Order" by Trumps hero Hitler. This book are the speeches of Hitler used to bring his country to his way of thinking. and is the book that people go to if they are studying how Hitler achieved this. His second wife made this information available saying that Trump had it on his bed stand for his nightly reading. He literally is repeating Hitlers moves word for word. Like Hitler Shitpants is doing it with hate and cruelty and depending on their ignorance.

 

[theHawk]

Rise of the Nazis (TV Mini Series 2019–2023) ⭐ 8.1 | Documentary, History

1h

www.imdb.com

It took Hitler less than 6 months to tighten his grip on power. As I watched this programme I was struck by the similarities between Germany and the US. Hitler and Trump.

Hitler waged war on German institutions. Its government, its press and of course its court system. When he had finished there was nothing left.He burned fown the Reichstag. Trump lanched an invasion of Congress.

Hitler told Germans that he was the only answer to the problems of the state. Trump is doing that right now.

Hitlers followers had a violent core of street thugs who beat and murdered anybody that Hitler didnt like, They were paramilitary and wore their own uniforms. A bit like the proud boys and oath keepers. Violent thugs.

The threats of violence to prosecutors, judges and juries is something that they both share.

Hitler took his revenge on those who opposed him. Check out the story of Hans Litten. He was murdered in a camp for the crime of humiliating Hitler in court.

Of course Trump is threatening revenge on everyone who gets in his way.

Hitler and his group despised democracy. So do Trump and his chums. They just want power and too many "wrong" people vote. Election denying is pure fascism when it does not present any evidence. Its not just that trump is a narcissist. He is a deeply evil man.Like Hitler.

Hitler hated minorities. So does trump and trumpism. The nazis told women to get back in the home. So do trumpists. The nazis murdered gay folk. Trump vilifies them and works to remove them from society.

The nazis burned books, so does trumpism. Intellectuals were murdered by nazis. Check out trumpism and climate change.

This is not controversial. The biggest eye opener was the way that German society backed down at every opportunity. They thought that they were being clever. But Hitler just took the concession and moved on to the next level.

Those GOP politicians who have facilitated the rise of trump, looked the other way and swallowed their pride will have blood on their hands.

Trumpism isnt new. There is a long history of fascism in the US. If trump is elected then a noisy minority may see all their dreams come true.

We’re already there.

Obama used the government to spy on the incoming President.
Biden used an illegal and unconstitutional mandate to force experimental mRNA injections onto people.
Biden is jailing political opponents.
Biden and the Federal government collude with Big Tech to silence political opposition and enforce de facto state censorship.

How much fascism do you want?

 

[surada]

No, it isn't you simpleton. ALL collectivist governments are LEFTWING. The ABSENCE of government is RIGHTWING. It ain't a circle, moron.

It's a line, total government on one side, and no government on the other.

What authority would you accept that fascism is right wing?

 

[surada]

Historically, "far-right politics" has been used to describe the experiences of fascism, Nazism, and Falangism.

Contemporary definitions now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, or reactionary views.

Far-right politics have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group, nation, state, national religion, dominant culture, or conservative social institutions.

 

[surada]

What is fascism? And what does it mean in 2020 America?

The touchy term is making the rounds this year… but are you using it correctly?

www.cbsnews.com

Fascism is generally defined as a political movement that embraces far-right nationalism and the forceful suppression of any opposition, all overseen by an authoritarian government.

Fascists strongly oppose Marxism, liberalism and democracy, and believe the state takes precedence over individual interests. They favor centralized rule, often a single party or leader, and embrace the idea of a national rebirth, a new greatness for their country.

Economic self-sufficiency is prized, often through state-controlled companies. Youth, masculinity and strength are highly fetishized.

The first modern fascist parties emerged in the aftermath of World War I. The ideology swept through Italy — the birthplace of the term — then Germany and other parts of Europe. German intellectual Johann Plenge expected that class divisions would disappear in favor of "racial comrades," and that the future of Germany lay in "national socialism."

That phrase is often shortened to "Nazism," which is a form of fascism.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

It took Hitler less than 6 months to tighten his grip on power. As I watched this programme I was struck by the similarities between Germany and the US. Hitler and Trump.

Hitler waged war on German institutions. Its government, its press and of course its court system. When he had finished there was nothing left.He burned fown the Reichstag. Trump lanched an invasion of Congress.

Hitler told Germans that he was the only answer to the problems of the state. Trump is doing that right now.

Hitlers followers had a violent core of street thugs who beat and murdered anybody that Hitler didnt like, They were paramilitary and wore their own uniforms. A bit like the proud boys and oath keepers. Violent thugs.

The threats of violence to prosecutors, judges and juries is something that they both share.

Hitler took his revenge on those who opposed him. Check out the story of Hans Litten. He was murdered in a camp for the crime of humiliating Hitler in court.

Of course Trump is threatening revenge on everyone who gets in his way.

Hitler and his group despised democracy. So do Trump and his chums. They just want power and too many "wrong" people vote. Election denying is pure fascism when it does not present any evidence. Its not just that trump is a narcissist. He is a deeply evil man.Like Hitler.

Hitler hated minorities. So does trump and trumpism. The nazis told women to get back in the home. So do trumpists. The nazis murdered gay folk. Trump vilifies them and works to remove them from society.

The nazis burned books, so does trumpism. Intellectuals were murdered by nazis. Check out trumpism and climate change.

This is not controversial. The biggest eye opener was the way that German society backed down at every opportunity. They thought that they were being clever. But Hitler just took the concession and moved on to the next level.

Those GOP politicians who have facilitated the rise of trump, looked the other way and swallowed their pride will have blood on their hands.

Trumpism isnt new. There is a long history of fascism in the US. If trump is elected then a noisy minority may see all their dreams come true.

This comes about every election cycle tommy, can you recall any election from the 1960's on that there hasn't been a hitler? it has been so abused that if a hitler does come along no one will notice thus have any/no reason to care...btw did ya hear the sky is falling?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

What authority would you accept that fascism is right wing?

Trump ?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Historically, "far-right politics" has been used to describe the experiences of fascism, Nazism, and Falangism.

Contemporary definitions now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, or reactionary views.

Far-right politics have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group, nation, state, national religion, dominant culture, or conservative social institutions.

and it never fails to manifest itself when leftwing politics and policies are collapsing under their own weight...germans did much better under hitler so this is now the part where the communist faction gets to feign concern for the jews.