How do you reason or make peace with men like this?

[aris2chat]

Actually, this is the "Mall" today: Gaza Shopping Center Destroyed by Israeli Airstrike - NBC News

and did you miss the part of gazans firing from the roof of the building?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Actually, this is the "Mall" today: Gaza Shopping Center Destroyed by Israeli Airstrike - NBC News

Courtesy of the IDF.

Israeli Destruction Force.

Or is it the Israeli Doofus Force?

Eh, whatever.

 

[fanger]

Ooops! Maybe NOW is the time for Palestinians to stop terrorizing and shooting rockets at the Israelis. When will these assholes realize not to fuck with the Israelis?
Did you mean fuck with the Israelis?
I agree

 

[Coyote]

Coyote,

What is the proper context?

Context matters RoccoR. The most clear examples are when people take religious passages out of context in an attempt to make claims.

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First Quote:
Hamas warns Israel over calls to attack Gaza (Aljazeera)
Israel started an ongoing siege on the enclave after Hamas won the elections in 2006.
"There is no alternative to a full reoccupation of the entire Gaza Strip," Lieberman told Israeli Channel 2 television.
He also restated his movement's opposition to peace talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority in the Occupied West Bank, the AFP news agency reported.
"Stop negotiating with the enemy," he told the PA. "We will not recognise Israel."
Mushir al-Masri, a top Hamas leader, told the crowd that the group opposes peace talks with Israel and is always prepared for battle.​

Agree, in this case the context doesn't add anything.

Second Quote:
Clip Transcript - Middle East Media Research Institute
Clip Transcript
Hamas MP Al-Astal: We Must Massacre Jews, ... This indicates that we must massacre them, in order to break them down and prevent them from sowing …

This links to MEMRI, and shows a very incomplete transcript with a lot redacted in an attempt to highlight the worst of the comments. Is there a complete transcript? It might not make much of a difference but when a site chooses to edit something so heavily it sends a bit of a red flag.

Third Quote:
This Is the Sound a Hamas Minister Calls ‘Music to Our ...
This Is the Sound a Hamas Minister Calls Music to Our Ears Video TheBlaze.com
The outgoing Hamas interior minister in Gaza ... This is a time to be real men, a time for ... Turn to us, the group that wages Jihad for the sake of Allah ...

This one links to Glenn Beck's site, TheBlaze but gives a lot more information and I agree, the context doesn't change much.

The fourth Quote:

• Inside the Hamas Camp That Teaches Gaza Teens to …

• www.theblaze.com/.../16/inside-the-hamas-camp-that...suicide-martyrs

• Hamas continues to provide military training to ... “This is a generation which knows nofear. It is the generation of the missile, the tunnel and the suicide ...

• Hamas Trains 13,000 Teens to Emulate 'Suicide Martyrs'

• www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/01/15/Hamas...Emulate-Suicide-Martyrs

• Jan 15, 2014 · Hamas has historically engaged in ... that "this is a generation whichknows no fear. It is the generation of the missile, the tunnel, and the suicide ...

The Fifth Quote:
HAMAS:”Before Israel dies, it must be humiliated and ...
pamelageller.com/2006/02/before_israel_d.html
HAMAS:”Before Israel dies, ... "Before Israel dies, ... “Before Israel dies, it must be humiliated and degraded. ...​

What is the context? What did they mean? Are these the words of peace?

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The source of the fifth quote is from Pamela Geller - a notorious hate site that would be the equivalent of using Storm Front. It gives very incomplete information on what the quote was about.

Granted - given it's Hamas, context might not make much of a difference but out of context quotes are a frequent means of generating hate and misunderstanding. When I see them - I admit I have a knee jerk reaction because typically, when you hunt them down (and most of the sources gave very incomplete information) - the context usually adds a lot more meaning.

 

[Billo_Really]

You realize that was after Oslo. When the PA was created the refugees were expected to return to their developing state. PA did not allow, keeping them trapped as a pawn against Israeli talks.

That's what Israel was paying them to do, because the PA, is Israel's pawn.

 

[Billo_Really]

Because far too many have been caught trying to smuggle bombs into Israeli hospitals, so now they are either turned down flat or made to go through interrogation and protracted entry rules. Israel is under no legal duress to provide the Palestinians with any medical services, or to allow them access to Israel so they can seek medical services elsewhere. Just the same as the USA is not under any legal duress to take in any of its enemies for medical treatment.

Israel has no legal right to prevent them from getting treatment somewhere else, but they do.