How do we fix our problems as a nation?

[bripat9643]

No, she was specifically talking about WWII Europe, she just kept insisting that The Third Reich was a country. I really couldn't understand her refusal to back down.

How was the Third Reich not a country?

 

[bripat9643]

Really More Unions and higher tax rate is what made America better?

Wouldn't the 1920's contradict that? Oh, and the 1930's-1940's???

The entire history of unionism contradicts it.

 

[bripat9643]

That has less to do with anything that the morons who rallied to capitalism and 18h-century British Free Trade.

We need to go back to rejecting capitalism and embracing Social Democracy.

We need more capitalism, not less. "Social Democracy" is a euphemism for "organized plunder."

 

[bripat9643]

I'd certainly nationalize the oil industry. Here where I live the utilities are regulated by the state and as a result our energy costs are pretty reasonable. I reject the notion that it is okay for an oil company to make a $3B profit in one year as Americans struggle to afford a tank of gas.

There is a fine line between capitalism and socialism that must be met in a country as big as our in order to have a healthy economy.

That has to be one of the stupidest fucking ideas ever posted in this forum.

Socialism has never worked, and it never will.

 

[boedicca]

That has less to do with anything that the morons who rallied to capitalism and 18h-century British Free Trade.

We need to go back to rejecting capitalism and embracing Social Democracy.

I'd certainly nationalize the oil industry. Here where I live the utilities are regulated by the state and as a result our energy costs are pretty reasonable. I reject the notion that it is okay for an oil company to make a $3B profit in one year as Americans struggle to afford a tank of gas.

There is a fine line between capitalism and socialism that must be met in a country as big as our in order to have a healthy economy.

An oil company making $3B in profit causes people to struggle but the government taxing away over 40% of GDP has no impact?

 

[sparky]

How do we fix our problems as a nation?

Kill Bin Laden every year.....

 

[AVG-JOE]

I'd like to see some serious discussion here. Let's not think through a partisan lens. Let's pretend there are no such thing as Democrats or Republicans. Let's pretend there is no such thing as Liberal or Conservative (or libertarian) or anything else you might think up.

As human beings, how do we fix the problems our nation faces?

First, I think we need to determine what the main problems are. Tell me what you think our biggest problems are. And are they symptoms of something else or the source of other problems?

Second, should we solve them through government or by acting as individuals?

Third, Tell us some of the ideas that we can impliment in our own lives to fix the problems our nations faces.

Well we certainly have learned how not to. That is, don't Elect a Radically Liberal President, and give him control of Both Houses of Congress.

Back to the drawing board we go.

As far as what our Biggest problem is. That is simple, and anyone who does not agree simply does not get it. The biggest problem is Debt. Not just the 14 Trillion National Debt either, SS and Medicare Need to be fixed so they are both viable, and sustainable. We must find a way to balance the budget and produce a surplus because we must pay down some of the Over all Debt. The Interest alone is killing us. Last time I heard it was around .5 Trillion a year. If you start looking at our Over all Future Debt Obligations when you combine all Federal and State programs, You come up with unthinkable numbers. Something like 110 Trillion dollars in Future Unfunded Debt Obligations.

None of our other problems even come close, and none of them will matter if we do not correct this problem.

Step 1 is coming up with a simple and fair method of collecting taxes so that we know how much is left over for 'spending' after the current debt obligations are met.

We should NEVER again allow congress to borrow money on our behalf - even for war.

 

[JBeukema]

1950s: higher marginal tax rates, more unions, more prosperous America

care to try again?

Unfortunately we can't bomb Europe and Japan into the stone age as we did during WW II.

War: A million broken windows

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG3AKoL0vEs]YouTube - The Broken Window Fallacy[/ame]

I thought you people always said government spending/stimulus can't fix the economy. Make up your fucking minds.

 

[JBeukema]

Really More Unions and higher tax rate is what made America better?

Wouldn't the 1920's contradict that? Oh, and the 1930's-1940's???

The entire history of unionism contradicts it.

Yes, because things were so much better during the industrial revolution before the unions got us all living wages and covers for the gears.

 

[bripat9643]

War: A million broken windows

The "broken window" fable is about the fallacy that destruction causes the economy to grow. Our economy boomed after the war because we destroyed the industrial capacity of all our biggest competitors. The USA was the only nation in the world that could supply the manufactured products the rest of the world craved. That method won't work any longer, unless you plan on nuking all our allies.

I thought you people always said government spending/stimulus can't fix the economy. Make up your fucking minds.

Who said anything about stimulus spending?

 

[JBeukema]

The USA was the only nation in the world that could supply the manufactured products the rest of the world craved.

And they bought it with what wealth?

You think we made a profit when we rebuilt Europe?

America thrived after the war because of increased demand and increased potential for production of consumer goods.

 

[blu]

disallow anyone who voted for bush twice and who votes for obama a second time from every voting again at the local, state, and national levels.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes, because things were so much better during the industrial revolution before the unions got us all living wages and covers for the gears.

Men like Henry Ford got us living wages. All union thugs did was improve their situation at the expense of all the workers who were excluded from employment at unionized companies.

The industrial revolution is what create the standard of living we enjoy today, not union thugs.

How does union extortion increase the output per man hour?

 

[bripat9643]

The USA was the only nation in the world that could supply the manufactured products the rest of the world craved.

And they bought it with what wealth?

For one thing, with raw materials and food stuffs. America products were sold all over the world. Coca Cola became a household name on every continent. Fords and Chevy's were sold in almost every country. If you go to Cuba, you'll see an abundance of American cars made in the period before the communist took over.

You think we made a profit when we rebuilt Europe?

We certainly didn't make a "profit" from the Marshal Plan, but American companies made tons of money selling finished goods to Europe and Japan.

America thrived after the war because of increased demand and increased potential for production of consumer goods.

I think I just said demand was higher for American made goods because Europe's and Japan's industrial capacity had been destroyed.

What the hell is "increased potential for production of consumer goods" supposed to mean? What increased the "potential?"

 

[P F Tinmore]

Throw away your TV and stay away from corporate media propaganda.

Obama is a corporate media creation sold to us like a bag of chips.

 

[syrenn]

I'd like to see some serious discussion here. Let's not think through a partisan lens. Let's pretend there are no such thing as Democrats or Republicans. Let's pretend there is no such thing as Liberal or Conservative (or libertarian) or anything else you might think up.

As human beings, how do we fix the problems our nation faces?

First, I think we need to determine what the main problems are. Tell me what you think our biggest problems are. And are they symptoms of something else or the source of other problems?

Second, should we solve them through government or by acting as individuals?

Third, Tell us some of the ideas that we can impliment in our own lives to fix the problems our nations faces.

Kick out the illegals and amend the constitution about anchor babies.
Immigrants must have a sponsor that will support them and be responsible for them in all areas for 20 years.
Line item the entire budget and cut out the pork.
Flat tax, everyone bleeds the same.
Welfare is not a pay check, you have to work for it with community service.
Only ONE child will be supported with government funds.
Social Security is only for the elderly.
Disband ALL unions.
Tax corporations for outsourcing
Kick out the UN
Stop being the free police force for the world
Stop feeding the world
Stop all aid to non friendly, non supportive countries
Cut the entire budget 20% , no sacred cows.


how is that for a start?

 

[sparky]

how is that for a start?


somewhere so far to the left of Che Grevera it almost comes full circle to Mousilini

doesn't make you a bad person

perhaps misunderstood

yeah, that fits...

 

[The T]

How do we fix our problems as a nation?

Defeat the so-called 'Progressives' at the polls...enemies to Liberty.

 

[sparky]

sure T

elect Trump

he'll fire 'em all........

 

[The T]

sure T

elect Trump

he'll fire 'em all........

TRUMP is a Social figure...part of the 'Cult of Personality'...and yes this time I'll spare the board of the VID...

TRUMP is an enigma...will bring pertinent questions to the forefront...but his chances are NIL to be elected.