EdwardBaiamonte
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I am agnostic on unions per se,
you're backsliding. Why would you be agnostic unless you think all prices should be set by government backed special interest violence??
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I am agnostic on unions per se,
I am agnostic on unions per se,
you're backsliding. Why would you be agnostic unless you think all prices should be set by government backed special interest violence??
Some companies treat their employees like shit. Those companies get the union they deserve.
Some companies treat their employees like shit. Those companies get the union they deserve.
Thats what capitalism is for. If you don't offer the best job and the best pay your best employees go to those who will and you go bankrupt.
That's not how the real world always works.
Saying "all unions are bad" is as nonsensical as some ridiculous leftist arguing that "all corporations are bad."
That's not how the real world always works.
its exactly how capitalism works. If you don't have the best price and quality your customers and employees go elsewhere. Its the genius of capitalism.
Saying "all unions are bad" is as nonsensical as some ridiculous leftist arguing that "all corporations are bad."
All unions are evil in that they subvert the price mechanism of capitalism and thusly unfairly extract higher prices from unwitting and often poor consumers, not to mention that they have driven 30 million jobs overseas so far or they teach that violence is the way to get ahead rather than actually being worth more in the free market place.
Why are the Libs so upset?....
If these folks lose their job they can can another one lickity split.
Right guys...You are always telling us how great the economy is and what a wonderful
job this President has done and how many jobs he created month after month.
It should not be a problem for these guys getting work....
See what happens when the workers control the means of production?
How many employees put their savings on the line as investors in Hostess, Inc.?How big of a pay cut should employees take to give their CEO a 300% raise?
The vultures who bought Hostess thought it should be around 30%.
Their employees disagreed. I guess they're just greedy, right?
They saw a union whose champagne tastes forced them to use cheaper ingredients that spoiled the good taste of their product plus raised the price, and sales dropping for both reasons, so they decided to close down after securing their cash investment with final salaries consistent with flourishing businesses sans union takeover, and... What was the facetious question again?And when they run it into the ground its the employees fault? How the <Freudian Stage II epithet omitted> does that work?
See what happens when the workers control the means of production?
Actually............the workers DO control the means of production. If they don't work, the product doesn't get made.
But............I guess you yearn for the times of robber barons so that tradgedies like the Shirtwaist factory fire could happen again.
Yup. Probably are. Because unlike you, they have not been sold on the idea that they all WANT to be unemployed. Because, you see, no one lives well on unemployment. It is just con tools who want to believe that they love living on a few bucks a month. Trying to make rent, or mortgage payments, and all the other necessities that they can no longer afford.See what happens when the workers control the means of production?
Actually............the workers DO control the means of production. If they don't work, the product doesn't get made.
But............I guess you yearn for the times of robber barons so that tradgedies like the Shirtwaist factory fire could happen again.
oh well, they can cry and wail all they want about how they were being treated in the UNEMPLOYMENT line along with 23 million others, their families must be proud of them..
Yup. Probably are. Because unlike you, they have not been sold on the idea that they all WANT to be unemployed. Because, you see, no one lives well on unemployment. It is just con tools who want to believe that they love living on a few bucks a month. Trying to make rent, or mortgage payments, and all the other necessities that they can no longer afford.Actually............the workers DO control the means of production. If they don't work, the product doesn't get made.
But............I guess you yearn for the times of robber barons so that tradgedies like the Shirtwaist factory fire could happen again.
oh well, they can cry and wail all they want about how they were being treated in the UNEMPLOYMENT line along with 23 million others, their families must be proud of them..
But cons love to believe they are enjoying being out of work. Simple to be a con. You just listen to the dogma and spout it when you get a chance. No need to actually think, or do research, or talk to those who are in the predicament that you choose to believe they have chosen.
And no need to see what needs to be done to get unemployment done. Like what has worked in the past. Just believe the dogma. No need to do research. No need to think.
The BCTGM workers did not ask for more pay.
The BCTGM workers did not ask for more benefits.
The BCTGM workers did not ask for better pensions
Vulture capitalists buy a company to destroy it and - according to the right - the workers should get the blame.
Is this surprising to you?
Can anyone explain it?
Are right wingers just that stupid? Do they not realize that when vulture capitalists buy a company and give their CEO's big fat pay raises - the purpose is to milk as much cash out of the company before it goes out of business?
Vulture Capitalism Ate Your Twinkies | The Nation
The BCTGM workers did not ask for more pay.
The BCTGM workers did not ask for more benefits.
The BCTGM workers did not ask for better pensions
Vulture capitalists buy a company to destroy it and - according to the right - the workers should get the blame.
Is this surprising to you?
Can anyone explain it?
Are right wingers just that stupid? Do they not realize that when vulture capitalists buy a company and give their CEO's big fat pay raises - the purpose is to milk as much cash out of the company before it goes out of business?
Vulture Capitalism Ate Your Twinkies | The Nation
The BCTGM workers did not ask for more pay.
The BCTGM workers did not ask for more benefits.
The BCTGM workers did not ask for better pensions