Homosexuality is Bad for Your Health

[Alucard]

Might be that they were depressed because where you live gays don't get treated so well. That would be depressing for someone gay. Thing is, middle age depression really isn't that uncommon. I can't even begin tell you how many 40-ish friends I have who are dissatisfied with their lives. The gay people I know are pretty much no different, and may well have higher job satisfaction/life satisfaction and relationship satisfaction than the people I know who are ticking off days til their kids go to college so they can make a run for it.

Just a thought.

I dont think location is relevent... We live outside Collingswood, which is gay central in S.Jersey with very little to no antigay sentiment... You are correct about depression with men in their 40's but the evidence I gave showed that it is much higher in gay men than straight...

straight men are depressed because for forty years they woke up with nothing but a stiff pecker... now when we wake up its the only thing thats not stiff... It must be the same for gay guys!

Case solved ...

 

[jillian]

I dont think location is relevent... We live outside Collingswood, which is gay central in S.Jersey with very little to no antigay sentiment... You are correct about depression with men in their 40's but the evidence I gave showed that it is much higher in gay men than straight...

straight men are depressed because for forty years they woke up with nothing but a stiff pecker... now when we wake up its the only thing thats not stiff... It must be the same for gay guys!

Case solved ...

There ya go!

Viva Viagra???

 

[Gem]

A new report compiled by the Medius Institute for Gay Men’s Health — a small, New York-based organization founded in June 2005 — suggests that because gay men have higher rates of depression than the general population, they also are more likely to engage in high-risk behavior associated with depression, including unsafe sex and drug use.

This seems like a study that really can be read in two ways. Are homosexuality and depression linked genetically somehow? Or because they have faced a lifetime of being told their thoughts are disgusting and wrong, that they are going to roast in hell for something they don't have control over (who they are attracted to), and are told that they are dirty, disgusting and sinful?

If I had known since I was old enough to be conscious of my attractions that if I ever voiced who I was really attracted to my friends and family would be horrified and that a good number of people in our society believed I was sinful and was going to hell...it could very well lead me to live a "high-risk" lifestyle and suffer from depression.

It makes one wonder if people who were homosexual grew up being unafraid and supported...if we would see such a high correlation between homosexuality and depression?

On a similar note - they recently did a study that demonstrated that girls who engage in sex and other risky behaviors often suffer from depression. Some read it to mean that girls who suffer from depression are more likely to have sex and do drugs to find acceptance and love. Others were curious if it could mean that young women who decide to engage in sex too early and engage in other risky behaviors find themselves suffering from depression because of the consequences and outcomes of their decisions....

I guess what I'm saying in a long-winded, round-about way, We should read these studies carefully and be sure to consider all of the possible meanings before jumping to conclusions.

 

[Kagom]

I'm sorry to hear that Kagom... thats a form of autism isn't it...?

Considered high-functioning autism. I've outgrown most of the symptoms. Only ones I still retain deal with social interaction, but I'm getting over that. It was weird, though, they thought I had ADHD at first, but then after doing more tests and the sort they found out I had AS. My mom never told me until I turned 18. Glad she did, really, because I would've ended up like all these self-diagnosed douchers who think that because they have AS (which they usually don't) that they can act like dumbfucks.

 

[Taomon]

How about both Matts....

A new report compiled by the Medius Institute for Gay Men’s Health — a small, New York-based organization founded in June 2005 — suggests that because gay men have higher rates of depression than the general population, they also are more likely to engage in high-risk behavior associated with depression, including unsafe sex and drug use.

http://www.washblade.com/2006/9-15/news/national/report.cfm

The reason why homosexuals may be depressed? Being attacked for who you are is a big factor. Being told that you must hide or suffer being treated differently or beaten up or worse.

Your contention proves that there is something wrong with our culture and the way we treat homosexuals.

 

[Alucard]

The reason why homosexuals may be depressed? Being attacked for who you are is a big factor. Being told that you must hide or suffer being treated differently or beaten up or worse.

Your contention proves that there is something wrong with our culture and the way we treat homosexuals.

No... It doesn't...

I guess it also shows there must be something wrong with the way we treat women who have had abortions too! eh...

Taoman... In the short time youv'e been on the site you have only proved one thing... And that is the fact that you are not capable of rational discussions... Gem pointed out very well the other factors that my effect the studies...yet you have all the answers... Like RGS your so smart you prove yourself to be the fool time after time with your hastey one sided opinions that add up to bunk...

Not to mention the fact that your posistion proves totally false in my dead friend Darrell's situation.... He recieved more support from friends and family than one could imagine and he still killed himself... His entire fraternity (60 some guys) had an intervention to help him with his stuggles to no avail...

 

[jillian]

Not to mention the fact that your posistion proves totally false in my dead friend Darrell's situation.... He recieved more support from friends and family than one could imagine and he still killed himself... His entire fraternity (60 some guys) had an intervention to help him with his stuggles to no avail...

Well, maybe it wouldn't have mattered whether your friend was gay or straight. I mean, there are people of all walks of life who suffer from severe depression. Look at Owen Wilson.

 

[Taomon]

No... It doesn't...

I guess it also shows there must be something wrong with the way we treat women who have had abortions too! eh...

Taoman... In the short time youv'e been on the site you have only proved one thing... And that is the fact that you are not capable of rational discussions... Gem pointed out very well the other factors that my effect the studies...yet you have all the answers... Like RGS your so smart you prove yourself to be the fool time after time with your hastey one sided opinions that add up to bunk...

Not to mention the fact that your posistion proves totally false in my dead friend Darrell's situation.... He recieved more support from friends and family than one could imagine and he still killed himself... His entire fraternity (60 some guys) had an intervention to help him with his stuggles to no avail...

Pot calling the kettle black. Your posts are so cynical and ultra-rightwinged that they are laughable. You always prove to be uninformed and bitter towards anyone who dares to disagree with your Evangelical beliefs.

I have a lot of gay friends and I have seen what happens when they come out of the closet. They are shunned, or treated differently, beat up and worse. I feel sorry for your friend's suicide, but you cannot say that he was depressed because he was gay. Most likely he was depressed because of a chemical imbalance or his family life held secrets that you did not know about.

Alucard, ironically you accuse me of the very thing that you commit with each post: pretending to know it all. Your posts and research is always based on biased sources.

 

[William Joyce]

not to mention that men can only *give* AIDS to women (which is the largest current source of new AIDS viruses) and can't get it from them.

A reason for women to be careful.

 

[actsnoblemartin]

Do diseases come from all sex yes

but gay males account for 53% of all new cases, whether your pro gay, anti gay, or dont give a hoot. That needs to be addressed.

26% of all new aids cases are heterosexual

Why arent gays as a whole addressing this, and if they are why arent they doing a better job.

Can we stick on topic and discuss that, and then anyone who wants to make a thread about the 26% of all hetero's getting new cases of aids, and the exploding out of wedlock birth, id love to hear it

or does anyone who doesnt get down on his knees and say being a homosexual is the best thing since sliced bread a homophobe.

For the record: I changed my position on gays, to gay neutral... Meaning...

its up to god to judge, not me and while god says its bad, i dont wanna be mean to gays, i have a gay friend.

 

[Kagom]

Do diseases come from all sex yes

but gay males account for 53% of all new cases, whether your pro gay, anti gay, or dont give a hoot. That needs to be addressed.

26% of all new aids cases are heterosexual

Why arent gays as a whole addressing this, and if they are why arent they doing a better job.

Can we stick on topic and discuss that, and then anyone who wants to make a thread about the 26% of all hetero's getting new cases of aids, and the exploding out of wedlock birth, id love to hear it

or does anyone who doesnt get down on his knees and say being a homosexual is the best thing since sliced bread a homophobe.

For the record: I changed my position on gays, to gay neutral... Meaning...

its up to god to judge, not me and while god says its bad, i dont wanna be mean to gays, i have a gay friend.

I will be one of the first to admit gay men are way more promiscuous than they ought to be. But before anyone jumps the fact that it's they're gay, I say it's because they're men. Men in general are more promiscuous than women. They have the need to spread their seed more. That's why lesbians have less cases than gay males do. Shame, really. I prefer a guy who's not promiscuous. Means I'm less likely to get something.

 

[actsnoblemartin]

I appreciate your honesty, and I wonder if that is why.

Men do tend to think with their head, I want you to know kagom, I hope you find a great guy for you so you can be happy, and he is disease free.

Im not patronizing, I simply think the issue needs to be addressed like any issue.

Its sad to me, that in the black community for example so many gay men are on the down low, risking aids and other diseases because its better to die, then admit their gay.

I do wonder, if the lack of acceptance or tolerance compared to homosexuality might be part of the reason

I dont think gays are bad people, I dont think people should discriminate against them, and i see no reason to judge them, as i would have to judge fornicaters, adulteres, and others, and then be friends with no one because everyone is a siner.

I think gays should be able to live their lives free of harassment, i think hey if want to form partnerships that leave inheritence, buy a house, see their partner in the hospital, that should never be a big deal and hippa is a big problem with that.

If gays wanna adopt kids or marry, im not gonna have a cow over it.

my basic position is gay neutral: i have friends who are gay, i have friends who believe being gay is a sin, who am i to tell anyone they are wrong?

I mean i respect peoples rights to their opinion, but leave people alone.

I will be one of the first to admit gay men are way more promiscuous than they ought to be. But before anyone jumps the fact that it's they're gay, I say it's because they're men. Men in general are more promiscuous than women. They have the need to spread their seed more. That's why lesbians have less cases than gay males do. Shame, really. I prefer a guy who's not promiscuous. Means I'm less likely to get something.

 

[Kagom]

I appreciate your honesty, and I wonder if that is why.

Men do tend to think with their head, I want you to know kagom, I hope you find a great guy for you so you can be happy, and he is disease free.

Im not patronizing, I simply think the issue needs to be addressed like any issue.

Its sad to me, that in the black community for example so many gay men are on the down low, risking aids and other diseases because its better to die, then admit their gay.

I do wonder, if the lack of acceptance or tolerance compared to homosexuality might be part of the reason

I dont think gays are bad people, I dont think people should discriminate against them, and i see no reason to judge them, as i would have to judge fornicaters, adulteres, and others, and then be friends with no one because everyone is a siner.

I think gays should be able to live their lives free of harassment, i think hey if want to form partnerships that leave inheritence, buy a house, see their partner in the hospital, that should never be a big deal and hippa is a big problem with that.

If gays wanna adopt kids or marry, im not gonna have a cow over it.

my basic position is gay neutral: i have friends who are gay, i have friends who believe being gay is a sin, who am i to tell anyone they are wrong?

I mean i respect peoples rights to their opinion, but leave people alone.

I really don't know much any more. Fear of being persecuted always plays into a gay person's fears, but is it always what motivates the thought that death is better? I don't know. I can't know what goes on in other people's heads and I have come to accept that.

I hope I find someone too, though it may be a bit difficult at such a young age since most guys my age, gay or straight, seem to like to get their laps warmed more than settle down and try to have a real relationship. It's just how the male brain is wired, I guess. I just refuse to follow the trend.

 

[Taomon]

I will be one of the first to admit gay men are way more promiscuous than they ought to be. But before anyone jumps the fact that it's they're gay, I say it's because they're men. Men in general are more promiscuous than women. They have the need to spread their seed more. That's why lesbians have less cases than gay males do. Shame, really. I prefer a guy who's not promiscuous. Means I'm less likely to get something.

This is true, men have a hunter mentality. Our teens are given a pass (boys will be boys) regarding sex. But to address an earlier point, it is anal sex that can cause (not just transmit...cause) HIV. Women having anal sex with unclean objects can develop HIV or even chlamydia.

 

[mattskramer]

not to mention that men can only *give* AIDS to women...and can't get it from them.

I disagree.

http://www.cdc.gov/MMWR/preview/mmwrhtml/00000442.htm

Heterosexual transmission of AIDS has been reported in both the United States and Africa (5-9). In the United States, such transmission has been uncommon. When heterosexual transmission has occurred, it has primarily been from men, particularly male IV drug users, to their female partners. However, in several African countries, heterosexual transmission appears to be the predominant mode in the spread of AIDS. In Zaire, where the male-to-female ratio of AIDS cases has been reported to be 1.1 to 1, transmission from women to men may be more common than in the United States. Furthermore, among 24 adults diagnosed as having AIDS in Rwanda, 12 of the 17 men were reported to have had contact with prostitutes, and three of the seven women were prostitutes.

The importance of female-to-male transmission in the spread of AIDS in the United States and the role, if any, of female prostitutes in this transmission have not been established. Women, including female prostitutes, could be exposed to the AIDS virus through sexual contact, use of IV drugs, or transfusion. However, the number of these women presently infected is likely to be small. It is not known if such women would be as efficient as heterosexual or homosexual men in transmitting the AIDS virus. Future studies will attempt to clarify and quantify the risks of female-to-male transmission and contact with prostitutes.

While this article does not definitively say that a woman has transmitted AIDS to a man, the scientific possibility of that occurring can be reasonably inferred. I think that such is possible.

 

[AllieBaba]

Of course it's wrong, as most of her posts are. There's a reason all the prostitutes on the Ivory coast have AIDS, and it isn't because their #1s are homosexual.

 

[AllieBaba]

Oooohh, poor Jillian.

Can always tell when I hit home because I get negged.

 

[CharlestonChad]

How about both Matts....

A new report compiled by the Medius Institute for Gay Men’s Health — a small, New York-based organization founded in June 2005 — suggests that because gay men have higher rates of depression than the general population, they also are more likely to engage in high-risk behavior associated with depression, including unsafe sex and drug use.

http://www.washblade.com/2006/9-15/news/national/report.cfm

Hmmm, I wonder if that depression is caused by consistent hatred and bigotry they have received from society since childhood?

 

[jillian]

Oooohh, poor Jillian.

Can always tell when I hit home because I get negged.

no allie baby, it's because you insult me gratiuitously. You don't get to me, I'm still trying to help you learn to play well with others. Consider it constructive criticism.

 

[AllieBaba]

Lol.
The insult stands. You are eternally posting about topics you obviously know nothing about. And you post as though you're an expert. Which is what makes you a moron.

And you can "punish" me all you want, loser. It won't stop me from calling them as I see them. I see you as a loser who recognizes that she looks stupid being, well, a poor loser. Wah.

A poor, poor loser.