Thousands protest Roe v. Wade decision

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    Must be that time of year again.
     
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    this reminds me of an interesting argument i has with a female co worker.

    The basic thrust of the argument was whether a man should have to pay child support if he fatheres a child.

    now we all know that women have used the sex card forever seriously we've all heard about the women who lies about being on birth control to trap a man haven't we?

    There is an inherent inequity in the law on this point. women have choices when it comes to child birth and that's fine with me but they also have other options that men don't have. Now a womwn can terminate a pregnancy via abortion and that is her right but she can also abandon her child and not be prosecuted because of the safe haven laws.

    If a woman does not want a child she has choices but if a man does not want a child it's too bad and he'll have to pay period. Shouldn't a man be covered under the same safe haven laws? why can't a man opt out of fatherhood just as a woman can opt out of motherhood???
     
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    Lots already do..Do you know how many single parent families there are with the main parent being a woman?
     
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    Much worse then that. Some States have laws that make it a crime to kill an unborn child, yet Abortion is legal even during the period this child can be "murdered". So a double standard exists. If the mother terminates the pregnancy it is just her "right" , if anyone else terminates the pregnancy it is murder.

    We recently had a nasty murder here in Onslow County. It is on National News I believe. A Marine apparently raped another Marine and then just before she was due to give birth may have murdered her. He ran to Mexico and is hiding there.

    In North Carolina there is no law that makes the death of an unborn child murder. And the press is all up in arms at the fact when caught this guy can not be tried for 2 murders. Yet this same Press is quite happy to allow the mother to "terminate" the pregnancy. ( now to be fair, the baby was to far along to have been legally terminated)
     
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    In this country if a court orders you to pay support, even if you later prove you are not the father you can never get out from under that order.

    And your implying something that simply is not true. If the Father is known or even just suspected and taken to court he will pay or have his wages garnished for said payment. If he does not work the payments continue to add up and if he ever gets money the Government WILL , if they know, seize his assets.

    Now making the father pay is no problem with me. But the argument that the mother has choices and the father has none is a valid one.
     
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    It's all about context RSG...all about context....
     
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    Yes and the Context is that a man can be forced to pay till the child is 18 with no say at all but a woman can chose to abort.
     
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    That's life (shrug)...
     
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    if the kid goes to college the man pays until the kid graduates or turns 22.

    not right
     
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    There's also a good reason for it as it concerns the best interests of the child, not the best interests of mom or dad. It's not a child during the first trimester if the woman terminates the pregnancy.
     
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