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Are you saying that someone going to Las Vegas to get married would not be legally married in their home state? Marriages are recognized across state lines. This business is engaging in the issuance of state marriage contracts.
By that rule my a gun permit in Virginia should be valid in New York city.
Does New York accept or reject recognition of the license based on gender?
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It bases it on who they feel like giving a weapons permit. Two people with equal records and identical prerequisites would be approved or denied on the whim of the NYPD.
THAT is violation of equal protection.
Are you saying that someone going to Las Vegas to get married would not be legally married in their home state? Marriages are recognized across state lines. This business is engaging in the issuance of state marriage contracts.
By that rule my a gun permit in Virginia should be valid in New York city.
Does New York accept or reject recognition of the license based on gender?
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It bases it on who they feel like giving a weapons permit. Two people with equal records and identical prerequisites would be approved or denied on the whim of the NYPD.
THAT is violation of equal protection.
And if weapons permits were treated like marriage licenses, you might have a point, but they aren't. Why are you trying to bring unrelated topics into the discussion.
If my weapons permit were treated differently than yours is, you might have a point. It isn't, but my marriage license is.
If you married your 15 year old first cousin in Alabama, your license would be recognized in all 50 states. Mine isn't.
If we are talking about a supposed "right" we sure as hell are talking about the same thing.
Are you saying that someone going to Las Vegas to get married would not be legally married in their home state? Marriages are recognized across state lines. This business is engaging in the issuance of state marriage contracts.
By that rule my a gun permit in Virginia should be valid in New York city.
Does New York accept or reject recognition of the license based on gender?
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It bases it on who they feel like giving a weapons permit. Two people with equal records and identical prerequisites would be approved or denied on the whim of the NYPD.
THAT is violation of equal protection.
You moved the goalposts there Marty.
You didn't say that New York would be issuing the license. "By that rule my a gun permit in Virginia should be valid in New York city." That means that New York would recognize your Virginia permit and you wouldn't need one from New York. More similar to a Drivers License. New York recognizes Virginia's a Drivers License to operate a motor vehicle for out of state visitors and you only need to get a New York Drivers License if you change residency.
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By that rule my a gun permit in Virginia should be valid in New York city.
Does New York accept or reject recognition of the license based on gender?
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It bases it on who they feel like giving a weapons permit. Two people with equal records and identical prerequisites would be approved or denied on the whim of the NYPD.
THAT is violation of equal protection.
And if weapons permits were treated like marriage licenses, you might have a point, but they aren't. Why are you trying to bring unrelated topics into the discussion.
If my weapons permit were treated differently than yours is, you might have a point. It isn't, but my marriage license is.
If you married your 15 year old first cousin in Alabama, your license would be recognized in all 50 states. Mine isn't.
If we are talking about a supposed "right" we sure as hell are talking about the same thing.
While that may be the case, and I wish you luck with that, it is unrelated to the discussion. My weapons permit is not treated differently than yours... my marriage license is.
Does New York accept or reject recognition of the license based on gender?
>>>>
It bases it on who they feel like giving a weapons permit. Two people with equal records and identical prerequisites would be approved or denied on the whim of the NYPD.
THAT is violation of equal protection.
And if weapons permits were treated like marriage licenses, you might have a point, but they aren't. Why are you trying to bring unrelated topics into the discussion.
If my weapons permit were treated differently than yours is, you might have a point. It isn't, but my marriage license is.
If you married your 15 year old first cousin in Alabama, your license would be recognized in all 50 states. Mine isn't.
If we are talking about a supposed "right" we sure as hell are talking about the same thing.
While that may be the case, and I wish you luck with that, it is unrelated to the discussion. My weapons permit is not treated differently than yours... my marriage license is.
Try bringing your weapon into NYC and see how that works for you.
Both parties are big government progressive organizations, marty, and have been for almost 90 years. That is never going to change unless an apocalyptic event sends us back to water and coal-oil energy sources.What you want is rule by fiat, either judical or bureaucratic, the definition of big government.
The government isn't governing how they practice their religion, but how they run their business. You open a business, you adhere to the business laws of the locality.
They are a for profit business. They can hire someone to perform the ceremonies they have a personal religious objection to....or, they can become a church.
And again, where in the constitution does the government get the right to do this? You are not answering the question.
You keep saying things that are basically "just because" responses.
What makes you be the one who can force others adjust to your whims and desires? Especially since the service is 1) non-essential) and 2) easy to get from someone else.
where in the constitution does the government get the right to do this?
As was posted earlier the Commerce Clause of the Constitution gives the government the right to regulate commerce and stipulate that everyone must be treated equally by corporations.
If they deal in interstate commerce, you keep forgetting that part.
Are you saying that someone going to Las Vegas to get married would not be legally married in their home state? Marriages are recognized across state lines. This business is engaging in the issuance of state marriage contracts.
By that rule my a gun permit in Virginia should be valid in New York city.
And again, where in the constitution does the government get the right to do this? You are not answering the question.
You keep saying things that are basically "just because" responses.
What makes you be the one who can force others adjust to your whims and desires? Especially since the service is 1) non-essential) and 2) easy to get from someone else.
where in the constitution does the government get the right to do this?
As was posted earlier the Commerce Clause of the Constitution gives the government the right to regulate commerce and stipulate that everyone must be treated equally by corporations.
If they deal in interstate commerce, you keep forgetting that part.
Are you saying that someone going to Las Vegas to get married would not be legally married in their home state? Marriages are recognized across state lines. This business is engaging in the issuance of state marriage contracts.
By that rule my a gun permit in Virginia should be valid in New York city.
Hard;y surprising that someone with a gun fetish like yours would equate a simple permit to a marriage contract.
As was posted earlier the Commerce Clause of the Constitution gives the government the right to regulate commerce and stipulate that everyone must be treated equally by corporations.
If they deal in interstate commerce, you keep forgetting that part.
Are you saying that someone going to Las Vegas to get married would not be legally married in their home state? Marriages are recognized across state lines. This business is engaging in the issuance of state marriage contracts.
By that rule my a gun permit in Virginia should be valid in New York city.
Hard;y surprising that someone with a gun fetish like yours would equate a simple permit to a marriage contract.
A right, is a right, is a right.
And I don't even own a gun, what I own is a dedication to the constitution as written, and a desire to see my fellow citizens allowed what it protects for them.
Point being that an Amendment defining marriage as a man and a woman would absolutely curtail rights.
And be legal for doing so.
If they deal in interstate commerce, you keep forgetting that part.
Are you saying that someone going to Las Vegas to get married would not be legally married in their home state? Marriages are recognized across state lines. This business is engaging in the issuance of state marriage contracts.
By that rule my a gun permit in Virginia should be valid in New York city.
Hard;y surprising that someone with a gun fetish like yours would equate a simple permit to a marriage contract.
A right, is a right, is a right.
And I don't even own a gun, what I own is a dedication to the constitution as written, and a desire to see my fellow citizens allowed what it protects for them.
So are you admitting that you just lied about having a gun permit?
As was posted earlier the Commerce Clause of the Constitution gives the government the right to regulate commerce and stipulate that everyone must be treated equally by corporations.
If they deal in interstate commerce, you keep forgetting that part.
Are you saying that someone going to Las Vegas to get married would not be legally married in their home state? Marriages are recognized across state lines. This business is engaging in the issuance of state marriage contracts.
By that rule my a gun permit in Virginia should be valid in New York city.
Hard;y surprising that someone with a gun fetish like yours would equate a simple permit to a marriage contract.
A right, is a right, is a right.
And I don't even own a gun, what I own is a dedication to the constitution as written, and a desire to see my fellow citizens allowed what it protects for them.
Are you saying that someone going to Las Vegas to get married would not be legally married in their home state? Marriages are recognized across state lines. This business is engaging in the issuance of state marriage contracts.
By that rule my a gun permit in Virginia should be valid in New York city.
Hard;y surprising that someone with a gun fetish like yours would equate a simple permit to a marriage contract.
A right, is a right, is a right.
And I don't even own a gun, what I own is a dedication to the constitution as written, and a desire to see my fellow citizens allowed what it protects for them.
So are you admitting that you just lied about having a gun permit?
i used "my" instead of "a".
If you search back in my posts on guns I have repeatedly stated I do not own a firearm. A typo is not a lie.
Where have you advocated that slavery should still be in force, blacks should still be counted as 3/5 ths of a person in the census and only white men allowed to vote?
it wasn't a church, it's a for profit wedding chapel called the hitching post.No churches should not be forced to do that which is against their beliefs, however it's very sad that they cannot accept everybody and feel the need to be exclusive, instead of letting God worry about who will or who will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Does an Army Chaplain have to preach about how abortion is great is the Army orders him to?it wasn't a church, it's a for profit wedding chapel called the hitching post.No churches should not be forced to do that which is against their beliefs, however it's very sad that they cannot accept everybody and feel the need to be exclusive, instead of letting God worry about who will or who will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Does an Army Chaplain have to preach about how abortion is great is the Army orders him to?it wasn't a church, it's a for profit wedding chapel called the hitching post.No churches should not be forced to do that which is against their beliefs, however it's very sad that they cannot accept everybody and feel the need to be exclusive, instead of letting God worry about who will or who will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Does a hospital chaplain have to preach about the wonderfulness of abortion if he works full time in a hospital?
Religion stays with pastors no matter where they practice it.
it wasn't a church, it's a for profit wedding chapel called the hitching post.No churches should not be forced to do that which is against their beliefs, however it's very sad that they cannot accept everybody and feel the need to be exclusive, instead of letting God worry about who will or who will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Does an Army Chaplain have to preach about how abortion is great is the Army orders him to?it wasn't a church, it's a for profit wedding chapel called the hitching post.No churches should not be forced to do that which is against their beliefs, however it's very sad that they cannot accept everybody and feel the need to be exclusive, instead of letting God worry about who will or who will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Does a hospital chaplain have to preach about the wonderfulness of abortion if he works full time in a hospital?
Religion stays with pastors no matter where they practice it.
