Hitler's Socialism 1933-1939

[Revere]

The the Crusades kill more than the Soviets or the Chinese?

 

[Sallow]

The the Crusades kill more than the Soviets or the Chinese?

The Chinese and Soviets didn't "directly" kill that many people. But their ridiculous policies led to the deaths of millions.

So what's your point?

You can argue that the Crusades led to the deaths of millions..which it did.

Of particular interest would be the sacking of Constantinople, where Christian Knights plundered the city..killing all its in habitants and roasted children on spits.

What they thought they were killing were "heathens". But what they were actually killing were Orthodox Greek Christians.

 

[Sallow]

He appealed to the hate and fears of the people. Didn't you ever take world history? Do you believe the Great Depression was only an American event, one cause by Woodrow Wilson? (do expand your reading, some of what you read from female conservatives on this MB is propaganda, not history).

Add in the punative Treaty of Versaille, which was overly harsh to Germany..

Yep. Hence my question to bigreb..., "Didn't you ever take world history?".

Which brings up that ol' chestnut..

Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

He appealed to the hate and fears of the people. Didn't you ever take world history? Do you believe the Great Depression was only an American event, one cause by Woodrow Wilson? (do expand your reading, some of what you read from female conservatives on this MB is propaganda, not history).
BTW, which American Company helped build the German War Machine and after being bombed by the Alies during WWII, sued for the damage to their factories?
Anyone know?

Yes he appealed with hate for the rich jew.

which American Company helped build the German War Machine and after being bombed by the Alies during WWII, sued for the damage to their factories?

Was it joe Kennedy?

Nope. Ambassador Kennedy's oldest son died while on a bombing run aimed at the Nazi War Machine. Nice try though.

Then you don't know about Joe kennedy do you?

 

[Sallow]

Yes he appealed with hate for the rich jew.




Was it joe Kennedy?

Nope. Ambassador Kennedy's oldest son died while on a bombing run aimed at the Nazi War Machine. Nice try though.

Then you don't know about Joe kennedy do you?

Was he arrested and convicted for doing business with the enemy...like Prescott Bush?

 

[Revere]

What government policies did Prescott Bush enact?

 

[Wry Catcher]

The the Crusades kill more than the Soviets or the Chinese?

Only an idiot would ... oops, of course.
The Soviet Union under Stalin was not socialism Revere, it was a totalitarian regime. As was China under Mao and Cambodia under Pol Pot. All of these regimes were authoritarian and conservative (resistent to and threatened by change).

 

[Revere]

They were socialist. The only ones with privilege were in government.

 

[edthecynic]

To argue aginst this you will have to watch the video. Good luck with that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRJFHyhCd1w&feature=grec_index

Alter boy Hitler was as Socialistic as he was Christian!

Hitler was a Christian

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Nope. Ambassador Kennedy's oldest son died while on a bombing run aimed at the Nazi War Machine. Nice try though.

Then you don't know about Joe kennedy do you?

Was he arrested and convicted for doing business with the enemy...like Prescott Bush?

In 2003, the Anti-Defamation League said:


Rumors about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush ... have circulated widely through the internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated. Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer

Prescott Bush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sallow]

Then you don't know about Joe kennedy do you?

Was he arrested and convicted for doing business with the enemy...like Prescott Bush?

In 2003, the Anti-Defamation League said:


Rumors about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush ... have circulated widely through the internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated. Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer

Prescott Bush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And was arrested for it..

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power | World news | The Guardian

His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

 

[edthecynic]

To argue against "this"? I've always gone by the adage watch their feet, not their lips. Watching from the perspective of history, Hitler was evil, in word and deed.

Yes but he did push for social reform and see where that got them. Thats why he was so beloved by the german people, at least until the last years of the war.

Except the "social reform" Hitler called for is identical to the BOOTSTRAP "social reform" CON$ call for today!

From the video:

"Because we don't say to the rich persons: give them, these poor persons. But we say, German folk HELP YOURSELF."

 

[bigrebnc1775]

To argue against "this"? I've always gone by the adage watch their feet, not their lips. Watching from the perspective of history, Hitler was evil, in word and deed.

Yes but he did push for social reform and see where that got them. Thats why he was so beloved by the german people, at least until the last years of the war.

Except the "social reform" Hitler called for is identical to the BOOTSTRAP "social reform" CON$ call for today!

From the video:

"Because we don't say to the rich persons: give them, these poor persons. But we say, German folk HELP YOURSELF."

Neither do the Democrats ask this they just enact a tax law

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Was he arrested and convicted for doing business with the enemy...like Prescott Bush?

In 2003, the Anti-Defamation League said:


Rumors about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush ... have circulated widely through the internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated. Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer

Prescott Bush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And was arrested for it..

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power | World news | The Guardian

His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer

Kennedy had a close friendship with Nancy Astor. The correspondence between them is reportedly replete with anti-Semitic statements.[25] As Edward Renehan notes:

As fiercely anti-Communist as they were anti-Semitic, Kennedy and Astor looked upon Adolf Hitler as a welcome solution to both of these "world problems" (Nancy's phrase).... Kennedy replied that he expected the "Jew media" in the United States to become a problem, that "Jewish pundits in New York and Los Angeles" were already making noises contrived to "set a match to the fuse of the world

Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

 

[Wry Catcher]

They were socialist. The only ones with privilege were in government.

You're confused (I am so nice). Does that mean they offered no bid contracts to the power elite in their countries? Companies like, uh, Haliburton? Is Dick Cheney a...ah...um...a socialist?

 

[Revere]

They were socialist. Those governments confiscated and controlled everything. Government also had the power over who lived and died.

 

[Revere]

Is Dick Cheney the same as Josef Stalin?

 

[edthecynic]

Yes but he did push for social reform and see where that got them. Thats why he was so beloved by the german people, at least until the last years of the war.

Except the "social reform" Hitler called for is identical to the BOOTSTRAP "social reform" CON$ call for today!

From the video:

"Because we don't say to the rich persons: give them, these poor persons. But we say, German folk HELP YOURSELF."

Neither do the Democrats ask this they just enact a tax law

So let me get your rationalization straight.
Because Dems pass a law that takes from the rich to help the poor that makes them the same as the Nazis who say don't take from the rich to help the poor, the poor need to help themselves.
BRILLIANT

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Except the "social reform" Hitler called for is identical to the BOOTSTRAP "social reform" CON$ call for today!

From the video:

Neither do the Democrats ask this they just enact a tax law

So let me get your rationalization straight.
Because Dems pass a law that takes from the rich to help the poor that makes them the same as the Nazis who say don't take from the rich to help the poor, the poor need to help themselves.
BRILLIANT

Let me get this straight you do not understand the constutitonality of taxes?

Article 1, Section. 8.
Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
Article I, Section. 9.
Clause 4: No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.

 

[edthecynic]

Neither do the Democrats ask this they just enact a tax law

So let me get your rationalization straight.
Because Dems pass a law that takes from the rich to help the poor that makes them the same as the Nazis who say don't take from the rich to help the poor, the poor need to help themselves.
BRILLIANT

Let me get this straight you do not understand the constutitonality of taxes?

Article 1, Section. 8.
Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
Article I, Section. 9.
Clause 4: No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.

Nice diversion!
This has nothing to do with the constitutionality of taxes, as you well know. It has to do with the fact that both the Nazis and the CON$ are anti taking money from the rich and helping the poor and pro the poor helping themselves. CON$ and Nazis have the same identical social philosophy.