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Typical of you to make gay only mean those who commit homosexual acts !! Sane people will shun you as perverted.No where in this right to freedom of religion does it say you can use YOUR religion to lie to, abuse or presecute those who don't believe as you do, or to force them to obey YOUR religious laws.
Your right to believe that being gay is wrong, ends when you start telling gay people how to live their lives, or to deny them service or heap abuse on them. They have the same right to freedom from abuse and hatred as YOU do.
Typical of you to make gay only mean those who commit homosexual acts !! Sane people will shun you as perverted.
GAY SEX IS PERVERTED,the main view of the world for several thousand years. Don't make that religion ,it only makes your bigorty more evident
That's no surprise. Historically, the RCC has been allied with the European Royalty. Fascism was created to prevent liberal, progressives & socialists from benefiting from Democracy and changing the socio-economic order that was left after the monarchs in Italy & Spain abdicated.
In Spain the Monarchists & Fascists were allies in the Spanish Civil war. The RCC sided strongly with the Fascists. The RCC even tried to beatify some spanish fascists a few years ago.
Yeah, God made child-torturers and practicers of bestiality, you dumb pervertAnd yet Gay has existed in every culture and society in the world. Gay is NOT "perverted". God MADE gays and God doesn't make mistakes.
It is natural and normal behaviour for a small subset of the population and has been since the dawn of time.
Harvard, Yale, or Princeton? Three Branches of Poison Ivy."opiate of the people."
keeping such agencies as government and religion, and "too big to fail" corporations at odds seems a reasonable way to adjust a few
checks and balances?"
i believe that was considered a "feature" by the foun ders.Harvard, Yale, or Princeton? Three Branches of Poison Ivy.
The checks and balances in the ruling class's Constitution are actually ways of compounding its tyranny. It's a fight over which branch can block the will of the people the most.
"Masters According to Flesh" = NeposHow Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery
Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Raetime.com
Stomping-Feet Featurei believe that was considered a "feature" by the foun ders.
Read Julian of Norwich's Servant and the Lord (he falls in a ditch and feels a wretch)No, im a wretch who falls in the ditch all the time.
Actually that is a cognate object, used by the best of writersThis is kind of redundant this is.
THe same people are citizens that are members of a religion, If your point is that there is no guaranteed happy ending to doing things the right way,, I agree. But the opposite problem is the historical default by about 100-to-1Unless of course, that religion also gets secular powers and becomes a theocracy, e.g., Iran today or Medieval Spain.
But you aren't
www.thenation.com
Why do you think the current Pope gives sermons on the evils of global warming and building walls, while seemingly ignoring abortion on demand around the world or promotion of the gospel?
It is because he fears the politics of man more than he fears God.
Unless of course, that religion also gets secular powers and becomes a theocracy, e.g., Iran today or Medieval Spain.
THe same people are citizens that are members of a religion, If your point is that there is no guaranteed happy ending to doing things the right way,, I agree. But the opposite problem is the historical default by about 100-to-1
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Whatever the motives for atheist bloodthirstiness, the indisputable fact is that all the religions of the world put together have in 2,000 years not managed to kill as many people as have been killed in the name of atheism in the past few decades.
It's time to abandon the mindlessly repeated mantra that religious belief has been the greatest source of human conflict and violence. Atheism, not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history."I
But there you desert all reality. It is you liberals that enable that.
First of all medieval Spain is just false
You are parroting the completely debunked Muslim propaganda on that
The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise: Muslims, Christians, and Jews under Islamic Rule in Medieval Spain
Dario Fernandez-Morera
Scholars, journalists, and even politicians uphold Muslim-ruled medieval Spain—"al-Andalus"—as a multicultural paradise, a place where Muslims, Christians, and Jews lived in harmony. There is only one problem with this widely accepted account: it is a myth.
Now to reality. It is a mark of Western Civilization ,of the Bible and Perennial Phillsophy LOGOS tradition that the first of all rights is Liberty of Conscience/Freedom of Religion.
Iran exists because this truth of Natural Religion is violated. Leave Islam and you are murdered.
NOw if you say the following is from Religion you lose your point but even if you don't I win because this is what our "christian' nation is built upon
"Nothing is more dreaded than the national government meddling with religion." —John Adams, in a letter to Benjamin Rush. 1812
"[T]hat the opinions of men are not the object of civil government, nor under its jurisdiction; that to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles on supposition of their ill tendency is a dangerous fallacy, which at once destroys all religious liberty." —Thomas Jefferson, 1779.
"The Religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man: and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate." —James Madison, 1785.
"Driven from every other corner of the earth, freedom of thought and the right of private judgment in matters of conscience direct their course to this happy country as their last asylum." —Samuel Adams, Speech on August 1, 1776.
"While we are contending for our own liberty, we should be very cautious not to violate the conscience of others, ever considering that God alone is the judge of the hearts of men, and to Him only in this case are they answerable." —George Washington, in a letter to Benedict Arnold.
"Conscience is the most sacred of all property." —James Madison, 1792.
Why do you think the current Pope gives sermons on the evils of global warming and building walls, while seemingly ignoring abortion on demand around the world or promotion of the gospel?
It is because he fears the politics of man more than he fears God.
the recent irish "troubles"Here's a partial list of religious wars.
Religion based wars
Lebanese Civil War
Crusades
Chinese conflict
French Wars of Religion
Nigeria
Palestine and Israel
Buddhist Uprising
Ethiopia
Pakistan and India
Schmalkaldic War
Taiping Rebellion
Hessian War
Religious war
Saxon wars
The Thirty Years' War
Dungan Revolt
Greek War of Independence
Then Spanish Conquests In The Americas
Wars of the Three Kingdoms
Men have murdered for thousands of years.Women have terminated unwanted pregnancies for thousands of years. Think about it.
Truth to power?the pope foresees ("prophecies?") disruption and prays , admonishing those responsible to consider the effects and help to mitigate them?
speaking "truth to power" is one responsibility of a man of god.
read samual, read jeremiah and ezekial. it isn't the pope's job to support trump, exxon mobil , or the economic forum.
and .... francis seems to have abortion in perspective. abortion is a sin, absolvable by penance.
and the gospel? francis is a jesuit, a holy warrior sworn to promote the faith and the word of god. i am overjoyed that he emphasizes the sermon on the mount and the golden rule, the essence of christ's teachings.
