History Channel Movie debunks "1913 seeds" leftist propaganda clip

[Phoenall]

They are indigenous Jews. The same ones that Arab Muslim invaders kept killing, persecuting, and expelling from their own holy land.

Not even the propaganda mongering Jewish Virtual Library can help you Roufti.


"Jewish settlement in Safed is attested by genizah documents from the first half of the 11th century. However, Benjamin of Tudela, who visited the city in 1170/71, stated that no Jews lived there."

Safed

Why should we believe this "Benjamin of Tudela?" You don't believe Mark Twain.

Because surveying distances and counting people was what Benjamin did for a living. And, it is included in the Jewish Virtual Library which is a Zionist propaganda instrument.

Mark Twain was a comic novelist.

Hah? Jewish Virtual Library is what you used to quote the Safed numbers a few posts ago, you donkey.

Here is the problem when you have multiple propogandists operating out of the same dirtbag screen name called Monkey I mean Monte. They don't keep track of what the other Achmed or Abdul or Fatima just posted, which causes them to places their hoofs firmly in their mouths.

If that isn't proof that there are several assholes operating out of that screen name I don't know what is.

Say hi to "Sherri". Ha ha ha.

Not even the propaganda mongering Jewish Virtual Library can help you Roufti.


"Jewish settlement in Safed is attested by genizah documents from the first half of the 11th century. However, Benjamin of Tudela, who visited the city in 1170/71, stated that no Jews lived there."

Safed

Why should we believe this "Benjamin of Tudela?" You don't believe Mark Twain.

Because surveying distances and counting people was what Benjamin did for a living. And, it is included in the Jewish Virtual Library which is a Zionist propaganda instrument.

Mark Twain was a comic novelist.

Since you want all the readers to think you are the most brilliant of all the posters here, how come you didn't know that MarkTwain was a journalist writing under his given name of Samuel Clemens before he started to write novels? For all we know your given name is Mohammed Saleem before you picked a pen name for your comic posts.

Well there's Muhammad Salem, Achmed Bin Khara, and of course Sherri I mean Fatima. It's a three shift operation.

Since you want all the readers to think you are the most brilliant of all the posters here, how come you didn't know that MarkTwain was a journalist writing under his given name of Samuel Clemens before he started to write novels? For all we know your given name is Mohammed Saleem before you picked a pen name for your comic posts.

You are the comic. Samuel Clemens also said in the same novel that:

"From Athens all through the islands of the Grecian Archipelago, we saw little but forbidding sea-walls and barren hills, sometimes surmounted by three or four graceful columns of some ancient temple, lonely and deserted -- a fitting symbol of the desolation that has come upon all Greece in these latter ages. We saw no ploughed fields, very few villages, no trees or grass or vegetation of any kind, scarcely, and hardly ever an isolated house. Greece is a bleak, unsmiling desert, without agriculture, manufactures or commerce, apparently. "

Now, who thinks Greece was a desert?

Ever been to Greece? Ever been to Greece in the mid-1800s?

I have been to Greece, but not in 1850. Lord Byron was there about that time and if you read his memoirs you will see that Samuel Clemens was full of shit.

Full of shit applies to your posts.

Standard Hasbarist response: When losing an argument, attack the messanger.

Troll techniques

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2. Guilt by association, they point to some source your are linked to as being anti-semitic or neo-nazi.
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6. Hasbara trolls generally follow the rules of social networks, because they want to continue to influence people and subvert open and free debate.

Jonathon Blakeley A guide to Hasbara trolls Gilad Atzmon

Lifted straight from the neo marxist little red book of disinformation. Taught this in the early 1970's when I first took an interest in the Union

 

[Phoenall]

Of course we expelled the Jews. You were our enemies allied with the Muslims. You always make a fool of yourself Roufti. This is so entertaining.

"Crusader Rule. The crusader rule (1100-1260) brought a temporary end to the Jewish settlement in Hebron. In 1100 the Crusaders captured the city, turned the mosque and the adjoining synagogue into a church and monastery, and expelled the Jews. "

http://www.hebron.com/english/article.php?id=178

And yet, here they were, back again in the 1800's, only to be attacked by Arab Muslim savage invaders. these guys don't look European, they look like native Jews to me:

1834 looting of Safed

Old Yishuv

Jewish life in the Land of Israel
Key events

• Aliya of Nachmanides (1267)
• Hebron and Safed massacres (1517)
• Revival of Tiberias (1563)
• Sack of Tiberias (1660)
• Hebron massacre (1834)
• Safed attack (1838)
• Jerusalem expansion
• Petach Tikva founded (1878)

Key figures

• Ishtori Haparchi (d. 1313)
• Joseph Saragossi (d. 1507)
• Obadiah MiBartenura (d. 1515)
• Levi ibn Habib (d. 1545)
• Jacob Berab (d. 1546)
• Joseph Nasi (d. 1579)
• Moses Galante (d. 1689)
• Moses ibn Habib (d. 1696)
• Yehuda he-Hasid (d. 1700)
• Haim Abulafia (d. 1744)
• Menachem Mendel (d. 1788)
• Haim Farhi (d. 1820)
• Jacob Saphir (d. 1886)
• Haim Aharon Valero (d. 1923)

Economy

• Etrog cultivation
• Winemaking
• Banking
• Printing
• Kosher soap production

Philanthropy

• Kollel
• Halukka
  • Montefiore
  • Judah Touro

Communities

• Musta'arabim
• Sephardim
• Perushim
• Hasidim

• Jerusalem
  • Mea Shearim
  • Mishkenot Sha'ananim
• Hebron
• Safed
• Tiberias
• Jaffa
• Haifa
• Peki'in
• Acco
• Shechem
• Gaza
• Kafr Yasif
• Shefa-'Amr
• Petach Tikva

Synagogues

• Great Academy of Paris (1258)
• Ramban (1267)
• Abuhav (1490s)
• Abraham Avinu (1540)
• Ari (1570s)
• Johanan ben Zakai (1600s)
• Hurva (1700)
• Tifereth Israel (1872)

Related articles

• History of the Jews and Judaism
  in the Land of Israel
• History of Zionism
  • Timeline
• Haredim and Zionism
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• ShaDaR
• Yishuv
• Three Oaths

• v
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The 1834 looting of Safed (Hebrew: ביזת צפת בשנת תקצ"ד, "Plunder of Safed, 5594 AM") was prolonged attack against the Jewish community of Safed, Palestine, during the 1834 Peasants' Revolt. It began on Sunday June 15 (7 Sivan), the day after the Jewish holiday of Shavuot, and lasted for the next 33 days. Most contemporary accounts suggest it was a spontaneous attack which took advantage of a defenceless population in the midst of the armed uprising against Egyptian rule.[3][4] The district governor tried to quell the violent outbreak, but failed to do so and fled. The event took place during a power vacuum, whilst Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt was fighting to quell the wider revolt in Jerusalem.

Accounts of the month-long event tell of large scale looting,as well as killing and raping of Jews and the destruction of homes and synagogues by local Druse and Muslim Arabs. Many Torah scrolls were desecrated[3] and many Jews were left severely wounded. The event has been described as a pogrom or "pogrom-like" by some authors. Hundreds fled the town seeking refuge in the open countryside or in neighbouring villages. The rioting was quelled by Lebanese Druse troops under the orders of Ibrahim Pasha following the intervention of foreign consuls. The instigators were arrested and later executed in Acre.
Attack


Letter to the Jewish community of London from a resident of Safed describing the event and appealing for assistance, 10 August 1834
The account of Neophytos, a monk of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre described the looting of the town, alongside similar events in Ramla, Lydda, Jaffa, Acre and Tiberias, noting that the perpetrators "robbed the Jews, who lived in these towns, of immense property, as is reported, for there was no one to offer any opposition".[24]

The 1850 account of Rabbi Joseph Schwartz stated that "Everything was carried off which could possibly be removed, even articles of no value; boxes, chests, packages, without even opening them, were dragged away; and the fury with which this crowd attacked their defenceless victims was boundless... [The perpetrators] were perfectly safe and unmolested; for they had learned that Abraim Pacha was, at the moment, so much occupied at Jerusalem and vicinity with his enemies there, that he could not go into Galilee."[6]

One account suggests the rioting was premeditated, organised by a local anti-Semitic Muslim cleric,[23] According to Kinglake, when June 15 arrived, Muhammad Damoor appeared to the gathered Muslim crowd and incited them to fulfill his prophesy. Kinglake only mentions the occurrence of looting, writing that "the most odious of all outrages, that of searching the women for the base purpose of discovering such things as gold and silver concealed about their persons, was perpetrated without shame."[23] Kinglake's is the only account which mentions the individual involvement of a local Muslim clergyman.

Other reports suggest the attack was more violent in nature. Isaac Farhi (d. 1853) described how several Jews were killed and raped in the attack. Men, women and children were robbed of their clothes and then beaten. Some fled into the surrounding fields and remained there naked "like wild animals" until the danger passed.[25] 12 year-old Jacob Saphir was among a number of refugees who found sanctuary in the adjacent village of Ein al-Zeitun assisted by a sympathetic Arab sheikh.[5] He describes how for the first three days they had nothing to eat and how they hid in fear of their lives for forty days. Afterwards they had found their homes completely ransacked and emptied, "not even small jugs, doors or windows had been left behind."[26] Menachem Mendel Baum, a prominent member of the Ashkenazi community, published a book (Korot Ha-Eytim, 1839) vividly detailing his recollections. He describes an aggressive onslaught, including one incident in which a group of elderly Jews including pious rabbis were beaten mercilessly while hiding in a synagogue.[27] In May 1934, an article appearing in Haaretz by historian and journalist Eliezer Rivlin (1889-1942) described the event of 100 years earlier in detail. His article, based on similar first hand accounts, tells of how the head of the community, Rabbi Israel of Shklov, was threatened with his life and another rabbi who had fled to the hills seeking refuge in a cave was set upon and had his eye gouged out. Rivlin states many Jews were beaten to death and severely wounded. Thirteen synagogues along with an estimated 500 Torah scrolls were destroyed.[28] Valuable antique books belonging to the 14th-century rabbi Isaac Aboab I were also lost. Jewish homes were ransacked and set on fire as looters searched for hidden gold and silver.[29]

Some Jews managed to escape to a nearby fortress and held out there for a few weeks. The mob unsuccessfully tried to break into the building to reach the fugitives.The sources do not indicate how many Jews died. It seems to have not been many, though hundreds were wounded



British philanthropist Sir Moses Montefiore furnished Israel Bak with a new printing press (pictured) after his original one was destroyed in the pogrom
The sole Hebrew printing press in Palestine was destroyed along with many copies of the Bible. It was three years before the press started functioning again. Israel Bak, who established the printing house in Safed, incurred a wound on his foot which left him with an enduring limp. Among the distinguished men who gave their lives helping others were Rabbis Leib Cohen, Shalom Hayat and Mendel of Kamnitz, who wandered around the streets without fear of the attackers, to return little children to their mothers, rescuing the victims physically and emotionally, and burying the dead

Well the one in the middle does, the other two look like Arabs.

They are indigenous Jews. The same ones that Arab Muslim invaders kept killing, persecuting, and expelling from their own holy land.

How do you know? I see three guys all holding books, one could be a Muslim, one is probably Jewish and one could be a Christian. What's the provenance of the photograph?

They aren't wearing Christian or Muslim attire, you ignoramus. They are rabbis.

They also have full facial hair trimmed neatly, and not just a straggly beard

 

[Challenger]

Of course we expelled the Jews. You were our enemies allied with the Muslims. You always make a fool of yourself Roufti. This is so entertaining.

"Crusader Rule. The crusader rule (1100-1260) brought a temporary end to the Jewish settlement in Hebron. In 1100 the Crusaders captured the city, turned the mosque and the adjoining synagogue into a church and monastery, and expelled the Jews. "

http://www.hebron.com/english/article.php?id=178

And yet, here they were, back again in the 1800's, only to be attacked by Arab Muslim savage invaders. these guys don't look European, they look like native Jews to me:

1834 looting of Safed

Old Yishuv

Jewish life in the Land of Israel
Key events

• Aliya of Nachmanides (1267)
• Hebron and Safed massacres (1517)
• Revival of Tiberias (1563)
• Sack of Tiberias (1660)
• Hebron massacre (1834)
• Safed attack (1838)
• Jerusalem expansion
• Petach Tikva founded (1878)

Key figures

• Ishtori Haparchi (d. 1313)
• Joseph Saragossi (d. 1507)
• Obadiah MiBartenura (d. 1515)
• Levi ibn Habib (d. 1545)
• Jacob Berab (d. 1546)
• Joseph Nasi (d. 1579)
• Moses Galante (d. 1689)
• Moses ibn Habib (d. 1696)
• Yehuda he-Hasid (d. 1700)
• Haim Abulafia (d. 1744)
• Menachem Mendel (d. 1788)
• Haim Farhi (d. 1820)
• Jacob Saphir (d. 1886)
• Haim Aharon Valero (d. 1923)

Economy

• Etrog cultivation
• Winemaking
• Banking
• Printing
• Kosher soap production

Philanthropy

• Kollel
• Halukka
  • Montefiore
  • Judah Touro

Communities

• Musta'arabim
• Sephardim
• Perushim
• Hasidim

• Jerusalem
  • Mea Shearim
  • Mishkenot Sha'ananim
• Hebron
• Safed
• Tiberias
• Jaffa
• Haifa
• Peki'in
• Acco
• Shechem
• Gaza
• Kafr Yasif
• Shefa-'Amr
• Petach Tikva

Synagogues

• Great Academy of Paris (1258)
• Ramban (1267)
• Abuhav (1490s)
• Abraham Avinu (1540)
• Ari (1570s)
• Johanan ben Zakai (1600s)
• Hurva (1700)
• Tifereth Israel (1872)

Related articles

• History of the Jews and Judaism
  in the Land of Israel
• History of Zionism
  • Timeline
• Haredim and Zionism
• Edah HaChareidis
• ShaDaR
• Yishuv
• Three Oaths

• v
• t
• e

The 1834 looting of Safed (Hebrew: ביזת צפת בשנת תקצ"ד, "Plunder of Safed, 5594 AM") was prolonged attack against the Jewish community of Safed, Palestine, during the 1834 Peasants' Revolt. It began on Sunday June 15 (7 Sivan), the day after the Jewish holiday of Shavuot, and lasted for the next 33 days. Most contemporary accounts suggest it was a spontaneous attack which took advantage of a defenceless population in the midst of the armed uprising against Egyptian rule.[3][4] The district governor tried to quell the violent outbreak, but failed to do so and fled. The event took place during a power vacuum, whilst Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt was fighting to quell the wider revolt in Jerusalem.

Accounts of the month-long event tell of large scale looting,as well as killing and raping of Jews and the destruction of homes and synagogues by local Druse and Muslim Arabs. Many Torah scrolls were desecrated[3] and many Jews were left severely wounded. The event has been described as a pogrom or "pogrom-like" by some authors. Hundreds fled the town seeking refuge in the open countryside or in neighbouring villages. The rioting was quelled by Lebanese Druse troops under the orders of Ibrahim Pasha following the intervention of foreign consuls. The instigators were arrested and later executed in Acre.
Attack


Letter to the Jewish community of London from a resident of Safed describing the event and appealing for assistance, 10 August 1834
The account of Neophytos, a monk of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre described the looting of the town, alongside similar events in Ramla, Lydda, Jaffa, Acre and Tiberias, noting that the perpetrators "robbed the Jews, who lived in these towns, of immense property, as is reported, for there was no one to offer any opposition".[24]

The 1850 account of Rabbi Joseph Schwartz stated that "Everything was carried off which could possibly be removed, even articles of no value; boxes, chests, packages, without even opening them, were dragged away; and the fury with which this crowd attacked their defenceless victims was boundless... [The perpetrators] were perfectly safe and unmolested; for they had learned that Abraim Pacha was, at the moment, so much occupied at Jerusalem and vicinity with his enemies there, that he could not go into Galilee."[6]

One account suggests the rioting was premeditated, organised by a local anti-Semitic Muslim cleric,[23] According to Kinglake, when June 15 arrived, Muhammad Damoor appeared to the gathered Muslim crowd and incited them to fulfill his prophesy. Kinglake only mentions the occurrence of looting, writing that "the most odious of all outrages, that of searching the women for the base purpose of discovering such things as gold and silver concealed about their persons, was perpetrated without shame."[23] Kinglake's is the only account which mentions the individual involvement of a local Muslim clergyman.

Other reports suggest the attack was more violent in nature. Isaac Farhi (d. 1853) described how several Jews were killed and raped in the attack. Men, women and children were robbed of their clothes and then beaten. Some fled into the surrounding fields and remained there naked "like wild animals" until the danger passed.[25] 12 year-old Jacob Saphir was among a number of refugees who found sanctuary in the adjacent village of Ein al-Zeitun assisted by a sympathetic Arab sheikh.[5] He describes how for the first three days they had nothing to eat and how they hid in fear of their lives for forty days. Afterwards they had found their homes completely ransacked and emptied, "not even small jugs, doors or windows had been left behind."[26] Menachem Mendel Baum, a prominent member of the Ashkenazi community, published a book (Korot Ha-Eytim, 1839) vividly detailing his recollections. He describes an aggressive onslaught, including one incident in which a group of elderly Jews including pious rabbis were beaten mercilessly while hiding in a synagogue.[27] In May 1934, an article appearing in Haaretz by historian and journalist Eliezer Rivlin (1889-1942) described the event of 100 years earlier in detail. His article, based on similar first hand accounts, tells of how the head of the community, Rabbi Israel of Shklov, was threatened with his life and another rabbi who had fled to the hills seeking refuge in a cave was set upon and had his eye gouged out. Rivlin states many Jews were beaten to death and severely wounded. Thirteen synagogues along with an estimated 500 Torah scrolls were destroyed.[28] Valuable antique books belonging to the 14th-century rabbi Isaac Aboab I were also lost. Jewish homes were ransacked and set on fire as looters searched for hidden gold and silver.[29]

Some Jews managed to escape to a nearby fortress and held out there for a few weeks. The mob unsuccessfully tried to break into the building to reach the fugitives.The sources do not indicate how many Jews died. It seems to have not been many, though hundreds were wounded



British philanthropist Sir Moses Montefiore furnished Israel Bak with a new printing press (pictured) after his original one was destroyed in the pogrom
The sole Hebrew printing press in Palestine was destroyed along with many copies of the Bible. It was three years before the press started functioning again. Israel Bak, who established the printing house in Safed, incurred a wound on his foot which left him with an enduring limp. Among the distinguished men who gave their lives helping others were Rabbis Leib Cohen, Shalom Hayat and Mendel of Kamnitz, who wandered around the streets without fear of the attackers, to return little children to their mothers, rescuing the victims physically and emotionally, and burying the dead

Well the one in the middle does, the other two look like Arabs.

They are indigenous Jews. The same ones that Arab Muslim invaders kept killing, persecuting, and expelling from their own holy land.

How do you know? I see three guys all holding books, one could be a Muslim, one is probably Jewish and one could be a Christian. What's the provenance of the photograph?

They aren't wearing Christian or Muslim attire, you ignoramus. They are rabbis.

Really?

This is what jewish people, including rabbis tended to look like at the time:

Palestinian Muslims:

The two people to the left and right of your picture look more like Palestinians than Jewish "Rabbis", just saying.

 

[theliq]

Not even the propaganda mongering Jewish Virtual Library can help you Roufti.


"Jewish settlement in Safed is attested by genizah documents from the first half of the 11th century. However, Benjamin of Tudela, who visited the city in 1170/71, stated that no Jews lived there."

Safed

Why should we believe this "Benjamin of Tudela?" You don't believe Mark Twain.

Because surveying distances and counting people was what Benjamin did for a living. And, it is included in the Jewish Virtual Library which is a Zionist propaganda instrument.

Mark Twain was a comic novelist.

Since you want all the readers to think you are the most brilliant of all the posters here, how come you didn't know that MarkTwain was a journalist writing under his given name of Samuel Clemens before he started to write novels? For all we know your given name is Mohammed Saleem before you picked a pen name for your comic posts.

You are the comic. Samuel Clemens also said in the same novel that:

"From Athens all through the islands of the Grecian Archipelago, we saw little but forbidding sea-walls and barren hills, sometimes surmounted by three or four graceful columns of some ancient temple, lonely and deserted -- a fitting symbol of the desolation that has come upon all Greece in these latter ages. We saw no ploughed fields, very few villages, no trees or grass or vegetation of any kind, scarcely, and hardly ever an isolated house. Greece is a bleak, unsmiling desert, without agriculture, manufactures or commerce, apparently. "

Now, who thinks Greece was a desert?

People who know more than you do, SHMUCK. Apparently Greece has very hot dry desert like climate during the Summer.

In fact, his Mark Twain's description about Greece's desert like weather is PERFECT.


Average Weather For Santorini Thira Greece - WeatherSpark
Location
This report describes the typical weather at the Santorini (Thira) National Airport (Santorini (Thira), Greece) weather station over the course of an average year. It is based on the historical records from 1996 to 2012. Earlier records are either unavailable or unreliable.

Santorini (Thira) has a hot desert climate. The area within 25 miles of this station is covered by oceans and seas (96%) and croplands (2%).

July Weather Averages for Crete Greece
Averages for Crete in July

July is the sunniest month of the year in Crete, with sunshine hours reaching a whopping 13 each day on average. July is another virtually rainless month, with total monthly precipitation barely reaching 1 mm and rainfall expected only in one day of the month across the whole island.

July is a windy month, with the southern winds known as ‘sirocco’ heats the island during the day, while the famous north-western meltemi wind cools it down in the evenings. A rather unpleasant weather phenomenon that can manifest itself during this month is dust storms, which come all the way from the Sahara desert. Carried by the sirocco wind, desert sand can blur the skies and create mildly uncomfortable conditions, however, these storms rarely last long and dissipate within a day.

Dodecanese islands suffer from sand storms

Holidaymakers in the Dodecanese islands of Greece may find a little more sand than expected on the beaches this year. As the UK remains in the frozen grip of a long winter, Greek islands in the southern Mediterranean are still recovering from a winter of sand storms.

The same weather systems that have kept the UK dry and cold are thought responsible for sand and dust being blown from the Sahara over southern Greek islands of the Dodecanese chain that include Rhodes, Symi and Kos.

Greek island holiday maps will show that islands like Kos are relatively near the north African coast. Normally, northern winds help keep the dust storms at bay but this year the strong southerly winds have carried large quantities of fine red sand over the eastern Mediterranean and dumped it on many Greek islands.

Study on an intense dust storm over Greece

Dust storm in Kalamata, Greece
« on: April 24, 2014, 0745 AM »
Every spring we have 2-3 dust storms with heat and dust from Africa. This one had a big dust load. In the afternoon there were 2 hours we lost visibility. You can see how dust covers everything photo by photo. In the end the sky is red and dark.

Diagnosis of the Relationship between Dust Storms over the Sahara Desert and Dust Deposit or Coloured Rain in the South Balkans

The phenomenon of coloured rain over the South Balkans and, in particular, over Greece occurs rather frequently, being associated with the appearance of Sahara or Atlas Mountains depressions [1–3]. On the other hand a significant easily visible, dust deposit upon Greece, coming from North Africa, is a very rare phenomenon occurring only once within the last twenty years on 4 April 1988 in north Greece. Also on 17 April 2005 the city of Athens was enveloped in a thick dust cloud. The dust cloud was not a localised event over Athens, but it was part of a synoptic-scale dust transport from Africa [4]. This event over Athens seems to be a little bit different from the other one, on 4th April 1988 in Thessalonica, studied here, because the dust was concentrated in the boundary layer with very little dry deposit on surface reducing dramatically the visibility. Of course coloured rain and/or dust deposits occur also in other European countries which are further north than Greece, for example, United Kingdom [5, 6], Spain [7], and generally Europe [8]. Also the transport and deposition of African dust is known to affect distant regions in the North Atlantic as far away as the Caribbean Islands [9, 10]. Something similar occurs for the East Asian dust that is transported and deposited to a long distance towards the East as far as Hawaii [11–13]. Also Danielsen [14] investigated the development of severe storms above Texas as a dust source in the early 1970s. Finally, an intense dust storm over Greece has recently been studied by Kaskaoutis et al. [15].

Conclusion: Mark Twain was 100% right. About Greece, and about Israel.

You mean't Palestine as there was no Israel at that time..........Git It

 

[theliq]

And yet, here they were, back again in the 1800's, only to be attacked by Arab Muslim savage invaders. these guys don't look European, they look like native Jews to me:

1834 looting of Safed

Old Yishuv

Jewish life in the Land of Israel
Key events

• Aliya of Nachmanides (1267)
• Hebron and Safed massacres (1517)
• Revival of Tiberias (1563)
• Sack of Tiberias (1660)
• Hebron massacre (1834)
• Safed attack (1838)
• Jerusalem expansion
• Petach Tikva founded (1878)

Key figures

• Ishtori Haparchi (d. 1313)
• Joseph Saragossi (d. 1507)
• Obadiah MiBartenura (d. 1515)
• Levi ibn Habib (d. 1545)
• Jacob Berab (d. 1546)
• Joseph Nasi (d. 1579)
• Moses Galante (d. 1689)
• Moses ibn Habib (d. 1696)
• Yehuda he-Hasid (d. 1700)
• Haim Abulafia (d. 1744)
• Menachem Mendel (d. 1788)
• Haim Farhi (d. 1820)
• Jacob Saphir (d. 1886)
• Haim Aharon Valero (d. 1923)

Economy

• Etrog cultivation
• Winemaking
• Banking
• Printing
• Kosher soap production

Philanthropy

• Kollel
• Halukka
  • Montefiore
  • Judah Touro

Communities

• Musta'arabim
• Sephardim
• Perushim
• Hasidim

• Jerusalem
  • Mea Shearim
  • Mishkenot Sha'ananim
• Hebron
• Safed
• Tiberias
• Jaffa
• Haifa
• Peki'in
• Acco
• Shechem
• Gaza
• Kafr Yasif
• Shefa-'Amr
• Petach Tikva

Synagogues

• Great Academy of Paris (1258)
• Ramban (1267)
• Abuhav (1490s)
• Abraham Avinu (1540)
• Ari (1570s)
• Johanan ben Zakai (1600s)
• Hurva (1700)
• Tifereth Israel (1872)

Related articles

• History of the Jews and Judaism
  in the Land of Israel
• History of Zionism
  • Timeline
• Haredim and Zionism
• Edah HaChareidis
• ShaDaR
• Yishuv
• Three Oaths

• v
• t
• e

The 1834 looting of Safed (Hebrew: ביזת צפת בשנת תקצ"ד, "Plunder of Safed, 5594 AM") was prolonged attack against the Jewish community of Safed, Palestine, during the 1834 Peasants' Revolt. It began on Sunday June 15 (7 Sivan), the day after the Jewish holiday of Shavuot, and lasted for the next 33 days. Most contemporary accounts suggest it was a spontaneous attack which took advantage of a defenceless population in the midst of the armed uprising against Egyptian rule.[3][4] The district governor tried to quell the violent outbreak, but failed to do so and fled. The event took place during a power vacuum, whilst Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt was fighting to quell the wider revolt in Jerusalem.

Accounts of the month-long event tell of large scale looting,as well as killing and raping of Jews and the destruction of homes and synagogues by local Druse and Muslim Arabs. Many Torah scrolls were desecrated[3] and many Jews were left severely wounded. The event has been described as a pogrom or "pogrom-like" by some authors. Hundreds fled the town seeking refuge in the open countryside or in neighbouring villages. The rioting was quelled by Lebanese Druse troops under the orders of Ibrahim Pasha following the intervention of foreign consuls. The instigators were arrested and later executed in Acre.
Attack


Letter to the Jewish community of London from a resident of Safed describing the event and appealing for assistance, 10 August 1834
The account of Neophytos, a monk of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre described the looting of the town, alongside similar events in Ramla, Lydda, Jaffa, Acre and Tiberias, noting that the perpetrators "robbed the Jews, who lived in these towns, of immense property, as is reported, for there was no one to offer any opposition".[24]

The 1850 account of Rabbi Joseph Schwartz stated that "Everything was carried off which could possibly be removed, even articles of no value; boxes, chests, packages, without even opening them, were dragged away; and the fury with which this crowd attacked their defenceless victims was boundless... [The perpetrators] were perfectly safe and unmolested; for they had learned that Abraim Pacha was, at the moment, so much occupied at Jerusalem and vicinity with his enemies there, that he could not go into Galilee."[6]

One account suggests the rioting was premeditated, organised by a local anti-Semitic Muslim cleric,[23] According to Kinglake, when June 15 arrived, Muhammad Damoor appeared to the gathered Muslim crowd and incited them to fulfill his prophesy. Kinglake only mentions the occurrence of looting, writing that "the most odious of all outrages, that of searching the women for the base purpose of discovering such things as gold and silver concealed about their persons, was perpetrated without shame."[23] Kinglake's is the only account which mentions the individual involvement of a local Muslim clergyman.

Other reports suggest the attack was more violent in nature. Isaac Farhi (d. 1853) described how several Jews were killed and raped in the attack. Men, women and children were robbed of their clothes and then beaten. Some fled into the surrounding fields and remained there naked "like wild animals" until the danger passed.[25] 12 year-old Jacob Saphir was among a number of refugees who found sanctuary in the adjacent village of Ein al-Zeitun assisted by a sympathetic Arab sheikh.[5] He describes how for the first three days they had nothing to eat and how they hid in fear of their lives for forty days. Afterwards they had found their homes completely ransacked and emptied, "not even small jugs, doors or windows had been left behind."[26] Menachem Mendel Baum, a prominent member of the Ashkenazi community, published a book (Korot Ha-Eytim, 1839) vividly detailing his recollections. He describes an aggressive onslaught, including one incident in which a group of elderly Jews including pious rabbis were beaten mercilessly while hiding in a synagogue.[27] In May 1934, an article appearing in Haaretz by historian and journalist Eliezer Rivlin (1889-1942) described the event of 100 years earlier in detail. His article, based on similar first hand accounts, tells of how the head of the community, Rabbi Israel of Shklov, was threatened with his life and another rabbi who had fled to the hills seeking refuge in a cave was set upon and had his eye gouged out. Rivlin states many Jews were beaten to death and severely wounded. Thirteen synagogues along with an estimated 500 Torah scrolls were destroyed.[28] Valuable antique books belonging to the 14th-century rabbi Isaac Aboab I were also lost. Jewish homes were ransacked and set on fire as looters searched for hidden gold and silver.[29]

Some Jews managed to escape to a nearby fortress and held out there for a few weeks. The mob unsuccessfully tried to break into the building to reach the fugitives.The sources do not indicate how many Jews died. It seems to have not been many, though hundreds were wounded



British philanthropist Sir Moses Montefiore furnished Israel Bak with a new printing press (pictured) after his original one was destroyed in the pogrom
The sole Hebrew printing press in Palestine was destroyed along with many copies of the Bible. It was three years before the press started functioning again. Israel Bak, who established the printing house in Safed, incurred a wound on his foot which left him with an enduring limp. Among the distinguished men who gave their lives helping others were Rabbis Leib Cohen, Shalom Hayat and Mendel of Kamnitz, who wandered around the streets without fear of the attackers, to return little children to their mothers, rescuing the victims physically and emotionally, and burying the dead

Well the one in the middle does, the other two look like Arabs.

They are indigenous Jews. The same ones that Arab Muslim invaders kept killing, persecuting, and expelling from their own holy land.

How do you know? I see three guys all holding books, one could be a Muslim, one is probably Jewish and one could be a Christian. What's the provenance of the photograph?

They aren't wearing Christian or Muslim attire, you ignoramus. They are rabbis.

Really?

This is what jewish people, including rabbis tended to look like at the time:

Palestinian Muslims:

The two people to the left and right of your picture look more like Palestinians than Jewish "Rabbis", just saying.

Interesting pics,I notice that the Jewish gentleman in the centre is suffering with Glaucoma,a condition rampant at the time,hense his walking cane and odd stance,just sayin steve

 

[Phoenall]

Why should we believe this "Benjamin of Tudela?" You don't believe Mark Twain.

Because surveying distances and counting people was what Benjamin did for a living. And, it is included in the Jewish Virtual Library which is a Zionist propaganda instrument.

Mark Twain was a comic novelist.

Since you want all the readers to think you are the most brilliant of all the posters here, how come you didn't know that MarkTwain was a journalist writing under his given name of Samuel Clemens before he started to write novels? For all we know your given name is Mohammed Saleem before you picked a pen name for your comic posts.

You are the comic. Samuel Clemens also said in the same novel that:

"From Athens all through the islands of the Grecian Archipelago, we saw little but forbidding sea-walls and barren hills, sometimes surmounted by three or four graceful columns of some ancient temple, lonely and deserted -- a fitting symbol of the desolation that has come upon all Greece in these latter ages. We saw no ploughed fields, very few villages, no trees or grass or vegetation of any kind, scarcely, and hardly ever an isolated house. Greece is a bleak, unsmiling desert, without agriculture, manufactures or commerce, apparently. "

Now, who thinks Greece was a desert?

People who know more than you do, SHMUCK. Apparently Greece has very hot dry desert like climate during the Summer.

In fact, his Mark Twain's description about Greece's desert like weather is PERFECT.


Average Weather For Santorini Thira Greece - WeatherSpark
Location
This report describes the typical weather at the Santorini (Thira) National Airport (Santorini (Thira), Greece) weather station over the course of an average year. It is based on the historical records from 1996 to 2012. Earlier records are either unavailable or unreliable.

Santorini (Thira) has a hot desert climate. The area within 25 miles of this station is covered by oceans and seas (96%) and croplands (2%).

July Weather Averages for Crete Greece
Averages for Crete in July

July is the sunniest month of the year in Crete, with sunshine hours reaching a whopping 13 each day on average. July is another virtually rainless month, with total monthly precipitation barely reaching 1 mm and rainfall expected only in one day of the month across the whole island.

July is a windy month, with the southern winds known as ‘sirocco’ heats the island during the day, while the famous north-western meltemi wind cools it down in the evenings. A rather unpleasant weather phenomenon that can manifest itself during this month is dust storms, which come all the way from the Sahara desert. Carried by the sirocco wind, desert sand can blur the skies and create mildly uncomfortable conditions, however, these storms rarely last long and dissipate within a day.

Dodecanese islands suffer from sand storms

Holidaymakers in the Dodecanese islands of Greece may find a little more sand than expected on the beaches this year. As the UK remains in the frozen grip of a long winter, Greek islands in the southern Mediterranean are still recovering from a winter of sand storms.

The same weather systems that have kept the UK dry and cold are thought responsible for sand and dust being blown from the Sahara over southern Greek islands of the Dodecanese chain that include Rhodes, Symi and Kos.

Greek island holiday maps will show that islands like Kos are relatively near the north African coast. Normally, northern winds help keep the dust storms at bay but this year the strong southerly winds have carried large quantities of fine red sand over the eastern Mediterranean and dumped it on many Greek islands.

Study on an intense dust storm over Greece

Dust storm in Kalamata, Greece
« on: April 24, 2014, 0745 AM »
Every spring we have 2-3 dust storms with heat and dust from Africa. This one had a big dust load. In the afternoon there were 2 hours we lost visibility. You can see how dust covers everything photo by photo. In the end the sky is red and dark.

Diagnosis of the Relationship between Dust Storms over the Sahara Desert and Dust Deposit or Coloured Rain in the South Balkans

The phenomenon of coloured rain over the South Balkans and, in particular, over Greece occurs rather frequently, being associated with the appearance of Sahara or Atlas Mountains depressions [1–3]. On the other hand a significant easily visible, dust deposit upon Greece, coming from North Africa, is a very rare phenomenon occurring only once within the last twenty years on 4 April 1988 in north Greece. Also on 17 April 2005 the city of Athens was enveloped in a thick dust cloud. The dust cloud was not a localised event over Athens, but it was part of a synoptic-scale dust transport from Africa [4]. This event over Athens seems to be a little bit different from the other one, on 4th April 1988 in Thessalonica, studied here, because the dust was concentrated in the boundary layer with very little dry deposit on surface reducing dramatically the visibility. Of course coloured rain and/or dust deposits occur also in other European countries which are further north than Greece, for example, United Kingdom [5, 6], Spain [7], and generally Europe [8]. Also the transport and deposition of African dust is known to affect distant regions in the North Atlantic as far away as the Caribbean Islands [9, 10]. Something similar occurs for the East Asian dust that is transported and deposited to a long distance towards the East as far as Hawaii [11–13]. Also Danielsen [14] investigated the development of severe storms above Texas as a dust source in the early 1970s. Finally, an intense dust storm over Greece has recently been studied by Kaskaoutis et al. [15].

Conclusion: Mark Twain was 100% right. About Greece, and about Israel.

You mean't Palestine as there was no Israel at that time..........Git It

Was there a nation of Palestine prior to 1988, if so who was its leader and where was its capital city ?

 

[Roudy]

And yet, here they were, back again in the 1800's, only to be attacked by Arab Muslim savage invaders. these guys don't look European, they look like native Jews to me:

1834 looting of Safed

Old Yishuv

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The 1834 looting of Safed (Hebrew: ביזת צפת בשנת תקצ"ד, "Plunder of Safed, 5594 AM") was prolonged attack against the Jewish community of Safed, Palestine, during the 1834 Peasants' Revolt. It began on Sunday June 15 (7 Sivan), the day after the Jewish holiday of Shavuot, and lasted for the next 33 days. Most contemporary accounts suggest it was a spontaneous attack which took advantage of a defenceless population in the midst of the armed uprising against Egyptian rule.[3][4] The district governor tried to quell the violent outbreak, but failed to do so and fled. The event took place during a power vacuum, whilst Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt was fighting to quell the wider revolt in Jerusalem.

Accounts of the month-long event tell of large scale looting,as well as killing and raping of Jews and the destruction of homes and synagogues by local Druse and Muslim Arabs. Many Torah scrolls were desecrated[3] and many Jews were left severely wounded. The event has been described as a pogrom or "pogrom-like" by some authors. Hundreds fled the town seeking refuge in the open countryside or in neighbouring villages. The rioting was quelled by Lebanese Druse troops under the orders of Ibrahim Pasha following the intervention of foreign consuls. The instigators were arrested and later executed in Acre.
Attack


Letter to the Jewish community of London from a resident of Safed describing the event and appealing for assistance, 10 August 1834
The account of Neophytos, a monk of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre described the looting of the town, alongside similar events in Ramla, Lydda, Jaffa, Acre and Tiberias, noting that the perpetrators "robbed the Jews, who lived in these towns, of immense property, as is reported, for there was no one to offer any opposition".[24]

The 1850 account of Rabbi Joseph Schwartz stated that "Everything was carried off which could possibly be removed, even articles of no value; boxes, chests, packages, without even opening them, were dragged away; and the fury with which this crowd attacked their defenceless victims was boundless... [The perpetrators] were perfectly safe and unmolested; for they had learned that Abraim Pacha was, at the moment, so much occupied at Jerusalem and vicinity with his enemies there, that he could not go into Galilee."[6]

One account suggests the rioting was premeditated, organised by a local anti-Semitic Muslim cleric,[23] According to Kinglake, when June 15 arrived, Muhammad Damoor appeared to the gathered Muslim crowd and incited them to fulfill his prophesy. Kinglake only mentions the occurrence of looting, writing that "the most odious of all outrages, that of searching the women for the base purpose of discovering such things as gold and silver concealed about their persons, was perpetrated without shame."[23] Kinglake's is the only account which mentions the individual involvement of a local Muslim clergyman.

Other reports suggest the attack was more violent in nature. Isaac Farhi (d. 1853) described how several Jews were killed and raped in the attack. Men, women and children were robbed of their clothes and then beaten. Some fled into the surrounding fields and remained there naked "like wild animals" until the danger passed.[25] 12 year-old Jacob Saphir was among a number of refugees who found sanctuary in the adjacent village of Ein al-Zeitun assisted by a sympathetic Arab sheikh.[5] He describes how for the first three days they had nothing to eat and how they hid in fear of their lives for forty days. Afterwards they had found their homes completely ransacked and emptied, "not even small jugs, doors or windows had been left behind."[26] Menachem Mendel Baum, a prominent member of the Ashkenazi community, published a book (Korot Ha-Eytim, 1839) vividly detailing his recollections. He describes an aggressive onslaught, including one incident in which a group of elderly Jews including pious rabbis were beaten mercilessly while hiding in a synagogue.[27] In May 1934, an article appearing in Haaretz by historian and journalist Eliezer Rivlin (1889-1942) described the event of 100 years earlier in detail. His article, based on similar first hand accounts, tells of how the head of the community, Rabbi Israel of Shklov, was threatened with his life and another rabbi who had fled to the hills seeking refuge in a cave was set upon and had his eye gouged out. Rivlin states many Jews were beaten to death and severely wounded. Thirteen synagogues along with an estimated 500 Torah scrolls were destroyed.[28] Valuable antique books belonging to the 14th-century rabbi Isaac Aboab I were also lost. Jewish homes were ransacked and set on fire as looters searched for hidden gold and silver.[29]

Some Jews managed to escape to a nearby fortress and held out there for a few weeks. The mob unsuccessfully tried to break into the building to reach the fugitives.The sources do not indicate how many Jews died. It seems to have not been many, though hundreds were wounded



British philanthropist Sir Moses Montefiore furnished Israel Bak with a new printing press (pictured) after his original one was destroyed in the pogrom
The sole Hebrew printing press in Palestine was destroyed along with many copies of the Bible. It was three years before the press started functioning again. Israel Bak, who established the printing house in Safed, incurred a wound on his foot which left him with an enduring limp. Among the distinguished men who gave their lives helping others were Rabbis Leib Cohen, Shalom Hayat and Mendel of Kamnitz, who wandered around the streets without fear of the attackers, to return little children to their mothers, rescuing the victims physically and emotionally, and burying the dead

Well the one in the middle does, the other two look like Arabs.

They are indigenous Jews. The same ones that Arab Muslim invaders kept killing, persecuting, and expelling from their own holy land.

How do you know? I see three guys all holding books, one could be a Muslim, one is probably Jewish and one could be a Christian. What's the provenance of the photograph?

They aren't wearing Christian or Muslim attire, you ignoramus. They are rabbis.

Really?

This is what jewish people, including rabbis tended to look like at the time:

Palestinian Muslims:

The two people to the left and right of your picture look more like Palestinians than Jewish "Rabbis", just saying.

Actually you can see the white yamaka or scull cap of the guy on the left and the guy in the middle looks like a rabbi you fool. Even down to the orthodox hairlocks coming down his sideburns.

So I guess these Jews praying at the Wailing Wall are actually Muslims, according to know nothing Achmed challenger.

Two Jewish men and two Jewish women, dressed in the Arab-style dress typical for Jews in Palestine of the time, are standing in front of the Western Wall, Jerusalem, c. 1908.

Photographer: Underwood & Underwood; Institution: U.S. Library of Congress

The Old Yishuv is a term used to refer to the Jewish communities, with specific economic and social structure, which had lived in southern Syrian provinces(Palestine) throughout the Ottoman period.

The Old Yishuv developed after a period of severe decline in Jewish communities of the Southern Levant during the early Middle Ages, and was composed of three clusters.
The oldest group consisted of Jews, the Sephardic Jewish communities in Galilee and the Musta’arabim, for example, of the early Ottoman and late Mamluk periods, who had deep ancestral roots in Palestine.

Engraving showing Jews praying at wailing wall during Ottoman Empire.

Sephardic Jews cutting stones in Jerusalem

 

[Roudy]

Well the one in the middle does, the other two look like Arabs.

They are indigenous Jews. The same ones that Arab Muslim invaders kept killing, persecuting, and expelling from their own holy land.

How do you know? I see three guys all holding books, one could be a Muslim, one is probably Jewish and one could be a Christian. What's the provenance of the photograph?

They aren't wearing Christian or Muslim attire, you ignoramus. They are rabbis.

Really?

This is what jewish people, including rabbis tended to look like at the time:

Palestinian Muslims:

The two people to the left and right of your picture look more like Palestinians than Jewish "Rabbis", just saying.

Interesting pics,I notice that the Jewish gentleman in the centre is suffering with Glaucoma,a condition rampant at the time,hense his walking cane and odd stance,just sayin steve

Achmed the mentally challenged thinks the guy in the middle isn't even Jewish. Ha ha ha. What a maroon.

 

[SAYIT]

Interesting pics,I notice that the Jewish gentleman in the centre is suffering with Glaucoma,a condition rampant at the time,hense his walking cane and odd stance,just sayin steve

Interesting. How does the use of a cane aid one suffering from glaucoma and how can you tell by his "odd stance" that he had it when the pic was taken?
(This should be really, really good).

 

[Hossfly]

Well the one in the middle does, the other two look like Arabs.

They are indigenous Jews. The same ones that Arab Muslim invaders kept killing, persecuting, and expelling from their own holy land.

How do you know? I see three guys all holding books, one could be a Muslim, one is probably Jewish and one could be a Christian. What's the provenance of the photograph?

They aren't wearing Christian or Muslim attire, you ignoramus. They are rabbis.

Really?

This is what jewish people, including rabbis tended to look like at the time:

Palestinian Muslims:

The two people to the left and right of your picture look more like Palestinians than Jewish "Rabbis", just saying.

Interesting pics,I notice that the Jewish gentleman in the centre is suffering with Glaucoma,a condition rampant at the time,hense his walking cane and odd stance,just sayin steve

You were drunk and looked at that picture from a supine position under the table, Steve. Be truthful.

 

[theliq]

Interesting pics,I notice that the Jewish gentleman in the centre is suffering with Glaucoma,a condition rampant at the time,hense his walking cane and odd stance,just sayin steve

Interesting. How does the use of a cane aid one suffering from glaucoma and how can you tell by his "odd stance" that he had it when the pic was taken?
(This should be really, really good).

Glaucoma sends you blind eventually,no doubt he was in the later stages of this malady hence the cane,and his general appearance....I know I'm Good but then when dealing with the dregs of the barrel of human degradation like you...I should be.

 

[theliq]

They are indigenous Jews. The same ones that Arab Muslim invaders kept killing, persecuting, and expelling from their own holy land.

How do you know? I see three guys all holding books, one could be a Muslim, one is probably Jewish and one could be a Christian. What's the provenance of the photograph?

They aren't wearing Christian or Muslim attire, you ignoramus. They are rabbis.

Really?

This is what jewish people, including rabbis tended to look like at the time:

Palestinian Muslims:

The two people to the left and right of your picture look more like Palestinians than Jewish "Rabbis", just saying.

Interesting pics,I notice that the Jewish gentleman in the centre is suffering with Glaucoma,a condition rampant at the time,hense his walking cane and odd stance,just sayin steve

You were drunk and looked at that picture from a supine position under the table, Steve. Be truthful.

Well if I was spending the afternoon having a few Jars with you Hoss,that could well be true.......Fcuk,you can be so amusing....LOL..steve

 

[SAYIT]

Interesting pics,I notice that the Jewish gentleman in the centre is suffering with Glaucoma,a condition rampant at the time,hense his walking cane and odd stance,just sayin steve

Interesting. How does the use of a cane aid one suffering from glaucoma and how can you tell by his "odd stance" that he had it when the pic was taken?
(This should be really, really good).

Glaucoma sends you blind eventually,no doubt he was in the later stages of this malady hence the cane,and his general appearance....I know I'm Good but then when dealing with the dregs of the barrel of human degradation like you...I should be.

Uh-huh. So Glaucoma caused what you decided to be his "odd stance?"
Glaucoma doesn't send you anywhere, Princess, "hense" you remain the dimmest creature ever to slither across the USMBs and the best part is you haven't a clue.

 

[theliq]

Interesting pics,I notice that the Jewish gentleman in the centre is suffering with Glaucoma,a condition rampant at the time,hense his walking cane and odd stance,just sayin steve

Interesting. How does the use of a cane aid one suffering from glaucoma and how can you tell by his "odd stance" that he had it when the pic was taken?
(This should be really, really good).

Glaucoma sends you blind eventually,no doubt he was in the later stages of this malady hence the cane,and his general appearance....I know I'm Good but then when dealing with the dregs of the barrel of human degradation like you...I should be.

Uh-huh. So Glaucoma caused what you decided to be his "odd stance?"
Glaucoma doesn't send you anywhere, Princess, "hense" you remain the dimmest creature ever to slither across the USMBs and the best part is you haven't a clue.

In the time of the Photo,Glaucoma did send people blind,(today we have drugs to prevent this but still today some still go blind) Obviously as the pic shows the Gentleman's stance is affected because the first thing you lose is your side vision,hence nodding of the head to one side or the other to compensate for that lack of vision....therefore the sufferer often has to adjust his stance..YOU DUMB ASS.....I know you lack the basics in education but really you are a fool.

 

[Roudy]

They are indigenous Jews. The same ones that Arab Muslim invaders kept killing, persecuting, and expelling from their own holy land.

How do you know? I see three guys all holding books, one could be a Muslim, one is probably Jewish and one could be a Christian. What's the provenance of the photograph?

They aren't wearing Christian or Muslim attire, you ignoramus. They are rabbis.

Really?

This is what jewish people, including rabbis tended to look like at the time:

Palestinian Muslims:

The two people to the left and right of your picture look more like Palestinians than Jewish "Rabbis", just saying.

Interesting pics,I notice that the Jewish gentleman in the centre is suffering with Glaucoma,a condition rampant at the time,hense his walking cane and odd stance,just sayin steve

You were drunk and looked at that picture from a supine position under the table, Steve. Be truthful.

I gots ta tell youz...That Kangaroo urine whiskey gives you superpowers. He can look at a 400 year old picture of Jews in the holy land, and tell you exactly what medical condition they are suffering from! Damn, that's good. I bet he skipped going to Kabul Medical school.

 

[SAYIT]

Interesting pics,I notice that the Jewish gentleman in the centre is suffering with Glaucoma,a condition rampant at the time,hense his walking cane and odd stance,just sayin steve

Interesting. How does the use of a cane aid one suffering from glaucoma and how can you tell by his "odd stance" that he had it when the pic was taken?
(This should be really, really good).

Glaucoma sends you blind eventually,no doubt he was in the later stages of this malady hence the cane,and his general appearance....I know I'm Good but then when dealing with the dregs of the barrel of human degradation like you...I should be.

Uh-huh. So Glaucoma caused what you decided to be his "odd stance?"
Glaucoma doesn't send you anywhere, Princess, "hense" you remain the dimmest creature ever to slither across the USMBs and the best part is you haven't a clue.

In the time of the Photo,Glaucoma did send people blind,(today we have drugs to prevent this but still today some still go blind) Obviously as the pic shows the Gentleman's stance is affected because the first thing you lose is your side vision,hence nodding of the head to one side or the other to compensate for that lack of vision....therefore the sufferer often has to adjust his stance..YOU DUMB ASS.....I know you lack the basics in education but really you are a fool.

You know that the guy is nodding his head from side to side by that old still picture? You are just digging another stupid hole for yourself, Moron, but then, that is what you consistently do as evidenced by your recent jab at Phoenall:

"Question Phoney........"Were you Fist-Fucked by a Rabbi,when you were a young boy" ?????"

I rest my case.

 

[theliq]

Interesting pics,I notice that the Jewish gentleman in the centre is suffering with Glaucoma,a condition rampant at the time,hense his walking cane and odd stance,just sayin steve

Interesting. How does the use of a cane aid one suffering from glaucoma and how can you tell by his "odd stance" that he had it when the pic was taken?
(This should be really, really good).

Glaucoma sends you blind eventually,no doubt he was in the later stages of this malady hence the cane,and his general appearance....I know I'm Good but then when dealing with the dregs of the barrel of human degradation like you...I should be.

Uh-huh. So Glaucoma caused what you decided to be his "odd stance?"
Glaucoma doesn't send you anywhere, Princess, "hense" you remain the dimmest creature ever to slither across the USMBs and the best part is you haven't a clue.

In the time of the Photo,Glaucoma did send people blind,(today we have drugs to prevent this but still today some still go blind) Obviously as the pic shows the Gentleman's stance is affected because the first thing you lose is your side vision,hence nodding of the head to one side or the other to compensate for that lack of vision....therefore the sufferer often has to adjust his stance..YOU DUMB ASS.....I know you lack the basics in education but really you are a fool.

You know that the guy is nodding his head from side to side by that old still picture? You are just digging another stupid hole for yourself, Moron, but then, that is what you consistently do as evidenced by your recent jab at Phoenall:

"Question Phoney........"Were you Fist-Fucked by a Rabbi,when you were a young boy" ?????"

I rest my case.

Ho,Ho...coming from you that's a laugh.....Ask any expert in the field and you will find I am right as Usual.....I WIN, You LOSE YET AGAIN.......I am the Magnificent,as for Phoney.....I was asking if he had been interfered with when young,being as often Pedos trawl schools and intitutions where the innocent children go.....when you grow a backbone contact me again....I caught you,and slayed you..........as I said "I am the Magnificent" Wooosh,what more ever needs to be said. www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO8ia38wpBE

 

[Phoenall]

Interesting pics,I notice that the Jewish gentleman in the centre is suffering with Glaucoma,a condition rampant at the time,hense his walking cane and odd stance,just sayin steve

Interesting. How does the use of a cane aid one suffering from glaucoma and how can you tell by his "odd stance" that he had it when the pic was taken?
(This should be really, really good).

Glaucoma sends you blind eventually,no doubt he was in the later stages of this malady hence the cane,and his general appearance....I know I'm Good but then when dealing with the dregs of the barrel of human degradation like you...I should be.

What a load of crap you come out with, yes glaucoma makes you blind in one eye at a time and it takes years to affect you in that way. The cane is a walking aid by its length, and not one for "seeing " with, I would say he was suffering from an injury sustained from a beating given by muslims

 

[Phoenall]

Interesting pics,I notice that the Jewish gentleman in the centre is suffering with Glaucoma,a condition rampant at the time,hense his walking cane and odd stance,just sayin steve

Interesting. How does the use of a cane aid one suffering from glaucoma and how can you tell by his "odd stance" that he had it when the pic was taken?
(This should be really, really good).

Glaucoma sends you blind eventually,no doubt he was in the later stages of this malady hence the cane,and his general appearance....I know I'm Good but then when dealing with the dregs of the barrel of human degradation like you...I should be.

Uh-huh. So Glaucoma caused what you decided to be his "odd stance?"
Glaucoma doesn't send you anywhere, Princess, "hense" you remain the dimmest creature ever to slither across the USMBs and the best part is you haven't a clue.

In the time of the Photo,Glaucoma did send people blind,(today we have drugs to prevent this but still today some still go blind) Obviously as the pic shows the Gentleman's stance is affected because the first thing you lose is your side vision,hence nodding of the head to one side or the other to compensate for that lack of vision....therefore the sufferer often has to adjust his stance..YOU DUMB ASS.....I know you lack the basics in education but really you are a fool.

As a person who is susceptible to glaucoma I can say you are talking a load of crap. The first you know is when the upper outer quadrant of your eye becomes blank. From this it is a slow degeneration taking many years to cause total blindness in ONE EYE at a time. You have no funny stance at all you just have a slow deterioration of your eyesight that many people put down to MAD ( old age ). I get tested every year for the condition and have not shown any signs yet. You do know that there are more than just one type of glaucoma don't you, and it can be caused by injury or trauma.
I know you like to be right all the time and have to get the last word in but you are constantly wrong and act like a spoilt brat when shown to be bullshitting.

 

[Challenger]

They are indigenous Jews. The same ones that Arab Muslim invaders kept killing, persecuting, and expelling from their own holy land.

How do you know? I see three guys all holding books, one could be a Muslim, one is probably Jewish and one could be a Christian. What's the provenance of the photograph?

They aren't wearing Christian or Muslim attire, you ignoramus. They are rabbis.

Really?

This is what jewish people, including rabbis tended to look like at the time:

Palestinian Muslims:

The two people to the left and right of your picture look more like Palestinians than Jewish "Rabbis", just saying.

Interesting pics,I notice that the Jewish gentleman in the centre is suffering with Glaucoma,a condition rampant at the time,hense his walking cane and odd stance,just sayin steve

Achmed the mentally challenged thinks the guy in the middle isn't even Jewish. Ha ha ha. What a maroon.

Point out to me please where I said that. Why are you calling me a descendant of black runaway slaves? it's not only racist, but completely off topic.