Hey GORE.. how will seas rise if global cooling is occurring???

[waltky]

Miami and New Orleans especially vulnerable...

Rising sea level to sink US cities: study
Wed, Oct 14, 2015 - WET SOUTH: US cities, especially in Florida, ‘appear to be already lost’ as global warming is expected to cause sea levels to rise. The question is when, a study said

Miami and New Orleans and other US cities will sink below rising seas regardless of what people do to curb global warming, a study said on Monday. Making extreme carbon cuts and moving to sources of renewable energy could save millions of people living in iconic coastal areas of the US, said the findings in the latest edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed US journal. Scientists have already established that if we do nothing to reduce our burning of fossil fuel up to the year 2100, sea levels will rise by 4.3m to 9.9m, said lead author Ben Strauss, who is vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate Central.

The big uncertainty is the issue of when. “Some of this could happen as early as next century, but it might also take many centuries,” Strauss told reporters. “Just think of a pile of ice in a warm room. You know it is going to melt, but it is harder to say how quickly.” To bring this issue home for people in the US, the study pinpoints at-risk land, where more than 20 million people reside. The authors projected business-as-usual carbon emissions, in addition to the complication of the melting West Antarctic ice sheet, a process some say is irreversible. They also considered what might happen if the world were to make a big turnaround, reaching peak carbon emissions by 2020.

This radical scenario would have to occur far earlier than the current aim of some world powers to peak by 2050, Strauss said. An online tool at choices.climatecentral.org allows users to see the impacts on various US cities. A global version is expected in the next month, Strauss said. The tool shows US cities that might face “lock-in dates beyond which the cumulative effects of carbon emissions likely commit them to long-term sea-level rise that could submerge land under more than half of the city’s population,” the study said. “Norfolk, Virginia, for example, faces a lock-in date of 2045 under a scenario of unabated carbon emissions,” it said. For cities like Miami and New Orleans, the limits are already exceeded. “In our analysis, a lot of cities have futures that depend on our carbon choices, but some appear to be already lost,” Strauss said. “And it is hard to imagine how we could defend Miami in the long run.” Miami’s low elevation and porous limestone foundation mean that sea walls and levees will not help, he said.

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[waltky]

Dat's why Granny don't go to Hawaii - she don't want rising seas or cannibals to get her...

Island Nations Fear 'Apocalyptic' Storms Will Overwhelm Them
November 07, 2017 — Unless emissions can be drastically and quickly curbed, efforts by small island nations to adapt to climate change may be in vain, a leader of a group of small island nations said Tuesday.

Hurricanes that hit the Caribbean this year were like nothing seen before, with Hurricane Irma so strong it was picked up by seismic machines that detect earthquake tremors, officials said. National plans to curb planet-warming emissions, drawn up ahead of the Paris Agreement, currently add up to a projected temperature rise of 3 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels by 2100 — well above the 1 degree Celsius rise already seen. That may bring climate impacts that are impossible for small island nations to deal with, their leaders warned Tuesday at the U.N. climate talks in Bonn.

Sanjogeeta Kiran, right, with her sister Sulva Kiran, second left, and her children Shivendera, left, and Raajeen, sit amid the debris of their home in RakiRaki, Fiji, Feb. 24, 2016, after Cyclone Winston ripped through the island nation.​

If ambition to curb climate remains modest, "have we created a situation for small island developing states where resilience may not necessarily be ... achievable?" asked Janine Felson, Belize ambassador to the United Nations and vice chair of the Alliance of Small Island States. This year, Hurricane Maria destroyed broad swaths of homes and infrastructure on the Caribbean island of Dominica and stripped its trees bare. Barbuda island was left temporarily uninhabitable when Irma whipped through the region. "In the Caribbean we're used to hurricanes, but ... for the first time we've seen storms turbocharge and supersize in a matter of hours," she said, speaking on the sidelines of the climate talks.

A traditionally dressed Fijian warrior with a weapon poses for a picture in front of a Fijian double-hulled sailing canoe during the COP23 U.N. Climate Change Conference 2017, hosted by Fiji but held in Bonn, at World Conference Center Bonn, Germany​

The storms' impact was "quite apocalyptic," and magnified the acute vulnerability of small island states, Felson said. Even so, countries — who are now clear on the risks — can take steps to protect themselves by building structures better able to weather storms, and ensuring policies take into account the rapidly changing climate, she said. "If we do not know the extent of our vulnerability, then we will not change," Felson said.

Bouncing back

 

[Redfish]

Gore lied, AGW is a flawed religion based on lies. Man may be polluting the planet but he is not causing the climate to change.

 

[waltky]

Is Jakarta the new Venice?...

Jakarta, the fastest-sinking city in the world

• 13 August 2018 - The Indonesian capital of Jakarta is home to 10 million people but it is also one of the fastest-sinking cities in the world. If this goes unchecked, parts of the megacity could be entirely submerged by 2050, say researchers. Is it too late?
  
  

  It sits on swampy land, the Java Sea lapping against it, and 13 rivers running through it. So it shouldn't be a surprise that flooding is frequent in Jakarta and, according to experts, it is getting worse. But it's not just about freak floods, this massive city is literally disappearing into the ground. "The potential for Jakarta to be submerged isn't a laughing matter," says Heri Andreas, who has studied Jakarta's land subsidence for the past 20 years at the Bandung Institute of Technology. "If we look at our models, by 2050 about 95% of North Jakarta will be submerged."

North Jakarta is sinking by about 25cm every year​

It's already happening - North Jakarta has sunk 2.5m in 10 years and is continuing to sink by as much as 25cm a year in some parts, which is more than double the global average for coastal megacities. Jakarta is sinking by an average of 1-15cm a year and almost half the city now sits below sea level. The impact is immediately apparent in North Jakarta. In the district of Muara Baru, an entire office building lies abandoned. It once housed a fishing company but the first-floor veranda is the only functional part left.

Stagnant water on the ground floor​

The submerged ground floor is full of stagnant floodwater. The land around it is higher so the water has nowhere to go. Buildings that are so deeply sunk are rarely abandoned like this, because most of the time the owners will try to fix, rebuild and find short-term remedies for the issue. But what they can't do is stop the soil sucking this part of the city down.

The sea wall is meant to mitigate the city's severe flooding​

An open air fish market is just a five-minute drive away. "The walkways are like waves, curving up and down, people can trip and fall," says Ridwan, a Muara Baru resident who often visits the fish market. As the water levels underground are being depleted, the very ground market-goers walk on is sinking and shifting, creating an uneven and unstable surface. "Year after year, the ground has just kept sinking," he said, just one of many inhabitants of this quarter alarmed at what is happening to the neighbourhood.

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[Redfish]

Miami and New Orleans especially vulnerable...

Rising sea level to sink US cities: study
Wed, Oct 14, 2015 - WET SOUTH: US cities, especially in Florida, ‘appear to be already lost’ as global warming is expected to cause sea levels to rise. The question is when, a study said

Miami and New Orleans and other US cities will sink below rising seas regardless of what people do to curb global warming, a study said on Monday. Making extreme carbon cuts and moving to sources of renewable energy could save millions of people living in iconic coastal areas of the US, said the findings in the latest edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed US journal. Scientists have already established that if we do nothing to reduce our burning of fossil fuel up to the year 2100, sea levels will rise by 4.3m to 9.9m, said lead author Ben Strauss, who is vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate Central.

The big uncertainty is the issue of when. “Some of this could happen as early as next century, but it might also take many centuries,” Strauss told reporters. “Just think of a pile of ice in a warm room. You know it is going to melt, but it is harder to say how quickly.” To bring this issue home for people in the US, the study pinpoints at-risk land, where more than 20 million people reside. The authors projected business-as-usual carbon emissions, in addition to the complication of the melting West Antarctic ice sheet, a process some say is irreversible. They also considered what might happen if the world were to make a big turnaround, reaching peak carbon emissions by 2020.

This radical scenario would have to occur far earlier than the current aim of some world powers to peak by 2050, Strauss said. An online tool at choices.climatecentral.org allows users to see the impacts on various US cities. A global version is expected in the next month, Strauss said. The tool shows US cities that might face “lock-in dates beyond which the cumulative effects of carbon emissions likely commit them to long-term sea-level rise that could submerge land under more than half of the city’s population,” the study said. “Norfolk, Virginia, for example, faces a lock-in date of 2045 under a scenario of unabated carbon emissions,” it said. For cities like Miami and New Orleans, the limits are already exceeded. “In our analysis, a lot of cities have futures that depend on our carbon choices, but some appear to be already lost,” Strauss said. “And it is hard to imagine how we could defend Miami in the long run.” Miami’s low elevation and porous limestone foundation mean that sea walls and levees will not help, he said.

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these theories have been disproven many times. New Orleans is not sinking because of any kind of man made climate change. It is sinking because the land its built on is sinking naturally. So far the levees have held the river out of the city and with proper management will continue to do so for many hundreds of years. The polar ice caps have actually grown in the last few years which lowers sea levels as more water becomes ice.

the final point is that none of this has anything to do with the actions of humanity. Climate is controlled by the sun and the earth's tilt on its axis. Cities built on the coast have always been at risk, that is nothing new.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Miami and New Orleans especially vulnerable...

Rising sea level to sink US cities: study
Wed, Oct 14, 2015 - WET SOUTH: US cities, especially in Florida, ‘appear to be already lost’ as global warming is expected to cause sea levels to rise. The question is when, a study said

Miami and New Orleans and other US cities will sink below rising seas regardless of what people do to curb global warming, a study said on Monday. Making extreme carbon cuts and moving to sources of renewable energy could save millions of people living in iconic coastal areas of the US, said the findings in the latest edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed US journal. Scientists have already established that if we do nothing to reduce our burning of fossil fuel up to the year 2100, sea levels will rise by 4.3m to 9.9m, said lead author Ben Strauss, who is vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate Central.

The big uncertainty is the issue of when. “Some of this could happen as early as next century, but it might also take many centuries,” Strauss told reporters. “Just think of a pile of ice in a warm room. You know it is going to melt, but it is harder to say how quickly.” To bring this issue home for people in the US, the study pinpoints at-risk land, where more than 20 million people reside. The authors projected business-as-usual carbon emissions, in addition to the complication of the melting West Antarctic ice sheet, a process some say is irreversible. They also considered what might happen if the world were to make a big turnaround, reaching peak carbon emissions by 2020.

This radical scenario would have to occur far earlier than the current aim of some world powers to peak by 2050, Strauss said. An online tool at choices.climatecentral.org allows users to see the impacts on various US cities. A global version is expected in the next month, Strauss said. The tool shows US cities that might face “lock-in dates beyond which the cumulative effects of carbon emissions likely commit them to long-term sea-level rise that could submerge land under more than half of the city’s population,” the study said. “Norfolk, Virginia, for example, faces a lock-in date of 2045 under a scenario of unabated carbon emissions,” it said. For cities like Miami and New Orleans, the limits are already exceeded. “In our analysis, a lot of cities have futures that depend on our carbon choices, but some appear to be already lost,” Strauss said. “And it is hard to imagine how we could defend Miami in the long run.” Miami’s low elevation and porous limestone foundation mean that sea walls and levees will not help, he said.

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these theories have been disproven many times. New Orleans is not sinking because of any kind of man made climate change. It is sinking because the land its built on is sinking naturally. So far the levees have held the river out of the city and with proper management will continue to do so for many hundreds of years. The polar ice caps have actually grown in the last few years which lowers sea levels as more water becomes ice.

the final point is that none of this has anything to do with the actions of humanity. Climate is controlled by the sun and the earth's tilt on its axis. Cities built on the coast have always been at risk, that is nothing new.

Water usage is also contributing to the land settling.
Houston has been sinking for decades as more water is used than can be replaced by rainfall.

 

[Taz]

Miami and New Orleans especially vulnerable...

Rising sea level to sink US cities: study
Wed, Oct 14, 2015 - WET SOUTH: US cities, especially in Florida, ‘appear to be already lost’ as global warming is expected to cause sea levels to rise. The question is when, a study said

Miami and New Orleans and other US cities will sink below rising seas regardless of what people do to curb global warming, a study said on Monday. Making extreme carbon cuts and moving to sources of renewable energy could save millions of people living in iconic coastal areas of the US, said the findings in the latest edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed US journal. Scientists have already established that if we do nothing to reduce our burning of fossil fuel up to the year 2100, sea levels will rise by 4.3m to 9.9m, said lead author Ben Strauss, who is vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate Central.

The big uncertainty is the issue of when. “Some of this could happen as early as next century, but it might also take many centuries,” Strauss told reporters. “Just think of a pile of ice in a warm room. You know it is going to melt, but it is harder to say how quickly.” To bring this issue home for people in the US, the study pinpoints at-risk land, where more than 20 million people reside. The authors projected business-as-usual carbon emissions, in addition to the complication of the melting West Antarctic ice sheet, a process some say is irreversible. They also considered what might happen if the world were to make a big turnaround, reaching peak carbon emissions by 2020.

This radical scenario would have to occur far earlier than the current aim of some world powers to peak by 2050, Strauss said. An online tool at choices.climatecentral.org allows users to see the impacts on various US cities. A global version is expected in the next month, Strauss said. The tool shows US cities that might face “lock-in dates beyond which the cumulative effects of carbon emissions likely commit them to long-term sea-level rise that could submerge land under more than half of the city’s population,” the study said. “Norfolk, Virginia, for example, faces a lock-in date of 2045 under a scenario of unabated carbon emissions,” it said. For cities like Miami and New Orleans, the limits are already exceeded. “In our analysis, a lot of cities have futures that depend on our carbon choices, but some appear to be already lost,” Strauss said. “And it is hard to imagine how we could defend Miami in the long run.” Miami’s low elevation and porous limestone foundation mean that sea walls and levees will not help, he said.

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"Just think of a pile of ice in a warm room. You know it is going to melt, but it is harder to say how quickly.” It'll be gone by the next day. That's their logic?

Red-hot planet: All-time heat records have been set all over the world during the past week