Here is how we fix the deficit

[ScienceRocks]

Here is how we fix the deficit.
1. Move over to universal healthcare like Britain, Germany, France, Canada and the rest of the first world has. None of these countries use even half as much of their gdp to support their blotted healthcare system.

2. Set-up some kind of working group to go through the governments books looking for waste and inefficiency. .We shouldn't be buying 200 dollar hammers or toilet seats! This INCLUDES the department of defense...Wasting the tax payers money should be a crime that leads to prison time and fines.

3. Cut back welfare and unemployment(cut the time you can be on it in half at least) to pre-recession levels.(2007!) It may seem brutal but it is needed and we can do this over a decade or so. Anyone that is disabled for real don't have to worry within a moral society, but the people that aren't should consider getting educated fast.

4. To help these people in 3. we could raise the minimum wage to 12 bucks per hour. We could also pass a law that prevent the ceo, board and the upper management from taking it all without paying the workers more. This would allow the worker more buying power and the ability to start their own business at some point. STRONGER ECONOMY that can pay down the deficit and debt.

5. Stop pumping raw money into wall street...Raise interest rates. Would be better spent investing in real r&d and lab science that sees real return within our economy! Not air.

6. Merge every second base over seas and cut the defense department by 50 billion now!. We shouldn't have to defend the world and we shouldn't have a defense budget equaling the next 11 nations combined. We should depend on nato and other nations to do if we wish! The American tax payer shouldn't have to take it up the ass every few years on wars like iraq.

7. Close the loop holes on the top 5% of the population. Lower the corporate to 18%, capital gains and income taxes to 25%, but they will have to pay it. The days of zero or 10% taxes are over!!! This will raise revenue.

8. Legalize drugs like pot and tax them. Shorten the prison sentence by half for all non-violent crimes = less prisons...And less need to arrest people for stupid shit that will cost millions of bucks to sentence them.


This should balance the thing and allow us to use the resources towards improving our society.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Once we have done all the above we can focus on repairing our infrastructure, investing in r&d that gets returns, leading in science and reforming our educational system. All things that will make America number one again!

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Here is how we fix the deficit.
1. Move over to universal healthcare like Britain, Germany, France, Canada and the rest of the first world has. None of these countries use even half as much of their gdp to support their blotted healthcare system.

I thought you said "fix the deficit", not "raise it considerably". Government control of healthcare should be eliminated entirely.

2. Set-up some kind of working group to go through the governments books looking for waste and inefficiency. .We shouldn't be buying 200 dollars hammers or toilet seats! This INCLUDES the department of defense...Wasting the tax payers money should be a crime that leads to prison time and fines.

Or eliminate some of the 400+ worthless government agencies, and the funding of Planned Parenthood. Oh, and ALL business subsidies.

3. Cut back welfare and unemployment(cut the time you can be on it in half at least) to pre-recession levels.(2007!) It may seem brutal but it is needed and we can do this over a decade or so. Anyone that is disabled for real don't have to worry within a moral society, but the people that aren't should consider getting educated fast.

Or abolish welfare entirely.

4. To help these people in 3. we could raise the minimum wage to 12 bucks per hour. We could also pass a law that prevent the ceo, board and the upper management from taking it all without paying the workers more. This would allow the worker more buying power and the ability to start their own business at some point. STRONGER ECONOMY that can pay down the deficit and debt.

No, that would weaken the economy. As expected of leftists, not knowing who actually hires people. If you cost a business more money, they expand more slowly, and hire fewer people. Only 3% of people even make minimum wage.

5. Stop pumping raw money into wall street...Raise interest rates. Would be better spent investing in real r&d and lab science that sees real return within our economy! Not air.

I agree, they should stop ALL subsidies, though, not just Wall Street.

6. Merge every second base over seas and cut the defense department by 50 billion now!. We shouldn't have to defend the world and we shouldn't have a defense budget equaling the next 11 nations combined. We should depend on nato and other nations to do if we wish! The American tax payer shouldn't have to take it up the ass every few years on wars like iraq.

So, kill our defense so another Nation can conquer us. While it would technically solve the debt if America no longer stands, that's not how I want to do it.

7. Close the loop holes on the top 5% of the population. Lower the corporate to 18%, capital gains and income taxes to 25%, but they will have to pay it. The days of zero or 10% taxes are over!!! This will raise revenue.

Just rewrite the tax code entirely.

8. Legalize drugs like pot and tax them. Shorten the prison sentence by half for all non-violent crimes = less prisons...And less need to arrest people for stupid shit that will cost millions of bucks to sentence them.

I agree with legalizing and taxing drugs, heavily, but prison sentences shouldn't be shortened. Just bring back the death penalty for more violent crimes. If they're dead, they're not soaking up tax dollars or prison space.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Once we have done all the above we can focus on repairing our infrastructure, investing in r&d that gets returns, leading in science and reforming our educational system. All things that will make America number one again!

So long as the government runs education, we will never be number one.

 

[Dale Smith]

Here is how we fix the deficit.
1. Move over to universal healthcare like Britain, Germany, France, Canada and the rest of the first world has. None of these countries use even half as much of their gdp to support their blotted healthcare system.

2. Set-up some kind of working group to go through the governments books looking for waste and inefficiency. .We shouldn't be buying 200 dollar hammers or toilet seats! This INCLUDES the department of defense...Wasting the tax payers money should be a crime that leads to prison time and fines.

3. Cut back welfare and unemployment(cut the time you can be on it in half at least) to pre-recession levels.(2007!) It may seem brutal but it is needed and we can do this over a decade or so. Anyone that is disabled for real don't have to worry within a moral society, but the people that aren't should consider getting educated fast.

4. To help these people in 3. we could raise the minimum wage to 12 bucks per hour. We could also pass a law that prevent the ceo, board and the upper management from taking it all without paying the workers more. This would allow the worker more buying power and the ability to start their own business at some point. STRONGER ECONOMY that can pay down the deficit and debt.

5. Stop pumping raw money into wall street...Raise interest rates. Would be better spent investing in real r&d and lab science that sees real return within our economy! Not air.

6. Merge every second base over seas and cut the defense department by 50 billion now!. We shouldn't have to defend the world and we shouldn't have a defense budget equaling the next 11 nations combined. We should depend on nato and other nations to do if we wish! The American tax payer shouldn't have to take it up the ass every few years on wars like iraq.

7. Close the loop holes on the top 5% of the population. Lower the corporate to 18%, capital gains and income taxes to 25%, but they will have to pay it. The days of zero or 10% taxes are over!!! This will raise revenue.

8. Legalize drugs like pot and tax them. Shorten the prison sentence by half for all non-violent crimes = less prisons...And less need to arrest people for stupid shit that will cost millions of bucks to sentence them.


This should balance the thing and allow us to use the resources towards improving our society.

None of the things you propose will fix the ills of this country as long as you have a central bank privately owned by international bankers that creates a fiat currency with no intrinsic value that we are charged usury for the privilege of using.

 

[Rshermr]

Once we have done all the above we can focus on repairing our infrastructure, investing in r&d that gets returns, leading in science and reforming our educational system. All things that will make America number one again!

So long as the government runs education, we will never be number one.

Perhaps then, being an obvious expert on education, you can show us which of the several countries that are better than us in the area of education do not have government run education.

 

[Rshermr]

Here is how we fix the deficit.
1. Move over to universal healthcare like Britain, Germany, France, Canada and the rest of the first world has. None of these countries use even half as much of their gdp to support their blotted healthcare system.

I thought you said "fix the deficit", not "raise it considerably". Government control of healthcare should be eliminated entirely.

2. Set-up some kind of working group to go through the governments books looking for waste and inefficiency. .We shouldn't be buying 200 dollars hammers or toilet seats! This INCLUDES the department of defense...Wasting the tax payers money should be a crime that leads to prison time and fines.

Or eliminate some of the 400+ worthless government agencies, and the funding of Planned Parenthood. Oh, and ALL business subsidies.

3. Cut back welfare and unemployment(cut the time you can be on it in half at least) to pre-recession levels.(2007!) It may seem brutal but it is needed and we can do this over a decade or so. Anyone that is disabled for real don't have to worry within a moral society, but the people that aren't should consider getting educated fast.

Or abolish welfare entirely.

4. To help these people in 3. we could raise the minimum wage to 12 bucks per hour. We could also pass a law that prevent the ceo, board and the upper management from taking it all without paying the workers more. This would allow the worker more buying power and the ability to start their own business at some point. STRONGER ECONOMY that can pay down the deficit and debt.

No, that would weaken the economy. No it would not, as stated by nut case right wing tools. As expected of leftists, not knowing who actually hires people. What is funny is that right wing con trolls do not understand that who hires is much less important than why the hire. Which is, me poor ignorant con troll, because economic demand increases. Dipshit. If you cost a business more money, they expand more slowly, and hire fewer people. Only 3% of people even make minimum wage. Now pay attention, dipshit. As Reagan discovered when he lowered taxes to give the wealthy the ability to increase production, they did not. for a really simple reason, me poor ignorant troll. No one wants to increase production when the buyers are NOT BUYING. So, increasing jobs and worker pay is your only chance. Always has been. Dipshit. So, when Reagan increased taxes 11 times, tripled the national debt by spending like crazy and thereby stimulating the economy, he increased aggregate demand. Which made the economy work really well.

5. Stop pumping raw money into wall street...Raise interest rates. Would be better spent investing in real r&d and lab science that sees real return within our economy! Not air.

I agree, they should stop ALL subsidies, though, not just Wall Street. Right. That worked so well for Reagan. And Hoover. I mean, why learn anything when you can simply post talking points. Dipshit.

6. Merge every second base over seas and cut the defense department by 50 billion now!. We shouldn't have to defend the world and we shouldn't have a defense budget equaling the next 11 nations combined. We should depend on nato and other nations to do if we wish! The American tax payer shouldn't have to take it up the ass every few years on wars like iraq.

So, kill our defense so another Nation can conquer us. While it would technically solve the debt if America no longer stands, that's not how I want to do it.

7. Close the loop holes on the top 5% of the population. Lower the corporate to 18%, capital gains and income taxes to 25%, but they will have to pay it. The days of zero or 10% taxes are over!!! This will raise revenue.

Just rewrite the tax code entirely.
"Matthew, post: 14946886, member: 22889"]8. Legalize drugs like pot and tax them. Shorten the prison sentence by half for all non-violent crimes = less prisons...And less need to arrest people for stupid shit that will cost millions of bucks to sentence them.
I agree with legalizing and taxing drugs, heavily, but prison sentences shouldn't be shortened. Just bring back the death penalty for more violent crimes. If they're dead, they're not soaking up tax dollars or prison space.[/QUOTE]
Why not just shoot them as babies. I mean, don't go to the point where you must use the brains you do not have. And forget that whole idea of democracy. Just do what the right wing nut cases suggest. dipshit.

 

[Rshermr]

Here is how we fix the deficit.
1. Move over to universal healthcare like Britain, Germany, France, Canada and the rest of the first world has. None of these countries use even half as much of their gdp to support their blotted healthcare system.

I thought you said "fix the deficit", not "raise it considerably". Government control of healthcare should be eliminated entirely.

2. Set-up some kind of working group to go through the governments books looking for waste and inefficiency. .We shouldn't be buying 200 dollars hammers or toilet seats! This INCLUDES the department of defense...Wasting the tax payers money should be a crime that leads to prison time and fines.

Or eliminate some of the 400+ worthless government agencies, and the funding of Planned Parenthood. Oh, and ALL business subsidies.

3. Cut back welfare and unemployment(cut the time you can be on it in half at least) to pre-recession levels.(2007!) It may seem brutal but it is needed and we can do this over a decade or so. Anyone that is disabled for real don't have to worry within a moral society, but the people that aren't should consider getting educated fast.

Or abolish welfare entirely.

4. To help these people in 3. we could raise the minimum wage to 12 bucks per hour. We could also pass a law that prevent the ceo, board and the upper management from taking it all without paying the workers more. This would allow the worker more buying power and the ability to start their own business at some point. STRONGER ECONOMY that can pay down the deficit and debt.

No, that would weaken the economy. As expected of leftists, not knowing who actually hires people. If you cost a business more money, they expand more slowly, and hire fewer people. Only 3% of people even make minimum wage.

5. Stop pumping raw money into wall street...Raise interest rates. Would be better spent investing in real r&d and lab science that sees real return within our economy! Not air.

I agree, they should stop ALL subsidies, though, not just Wall Street.
As we would all expect a con troll to suggest. So, don't fix the infrastructure. Do not subsidize new technologies. Just keep on like you always have. I expect a drill baby drill to come from you next. Dipshit. Want to show a time in history when the national debt has gone down when unemployment is high? Want to tell us why that does not matter? Do you have a clue?

6. Merge every second base over seas and cut the defense department by 50 billion now!. We shouldn't have to defend the world and we shouldn't have a defense budget equaling the next 11 nations combined. We should depend on nato and other nations to do if we wish! The American tax payer shouldn't have to take it up the ass every few years on wars like iraq.

So, kill our defense so another Nation can conquer us. While it would technically solve the debt if America no longer stands, that's not how I want to do it. What nation do you think is going to conquer us, dipshit. Who pays even half as much as we do on defense? I know you have no idea, so go take a look. dipshit.

7. Close the loop holes on the top 5% of the population. Lower the corporate to 18%, capital gains and income taxes to 25%, but they will have to pay it. The days of zero or 10% taxes are over!!! This will raise revenue.

Just rewrite the tax code entirely.
OK. Who would you like to rewrite it, dipshit?
I assume you would like the wealthy to pay higher taxes, eh.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Why not just shoot them as babies. I mean, don't go to the point where you must use the brains you do not have. And forget that whole idea of democracy. Just do what the right wing nut cases suggest. dipshit.

They give up their human rights the moment they kill or rape someone else. More Liberals protecting criminals, as expected of people who lack morals, ethics, and values.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

As we would all expect a con troll to suggest. So, don't fix the infrastructure. Do not subsidize new technologies. Just keep on like you always have. I expect a drill baby drill to come from you next. Dipshit. Want to show a time in history when the national debt has gone down when unemployment is high? Want to tell us why that does not matter? Do you have a clue?

If there's money in it, it can be privatized, and done more efficiently. Like the GPS, technology that money can be made off of would advance far faster in the private sector. Infrastructure is not a subsidy, and if it were, there would be money for the private sector in that, too. Also, try quoting without breaking the post.

What nation do you think is going to conquer us, dipshit. Who pays even half as much as we do on defense? I know you have no idea, so go take a look. dipshit.

Oh, more insults, how mature. Any Nation that wants our resources would try, especially if we weaken our defense, as Liberals love to do.

OK. Who would you like to rewrite it, dipshit?
I assume you would like the wealthy to pay higher taxes, eh.

No, I don't actually think businesses should pay taxes. As it is, the tax code is designed to only tax the competitors of the Establishment, not that businesses pay taxes, anyway, it's passed down to the middle class in the form of higher good and service prices, and lay-offs.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Once we have done all the above we can focus on repairing our infrastructure, investing in r&d that gets returns, leading in science and reforming our educational system. All things that will make America number one again!

So long as the government runs education, we will never be number one.

Perhaps then, being an obvious expert on education, you can show us which of the several countries that are better than us in the area of education do not have government run education.

the libcommie govt monopoly here of course is a huge and tragic disaster that produces about the dumbest kids in the civilized world so it should be abolished, obviously. In China Japan and Korea for example, govt education is somewhat successful but only because the entire culture values education enough that kids go to school long hours 7 days a week with no complaint. Our situation is entirely different and requires a very different solution like capitalism which is the only realistic alternative for us.

 

[Rshermr]

Once we have done all the above we can focus on repairing our infrastructure, investing in r&d that gets returns, leading in science and reforming our educational system. All things that will make America number one again!

So long as the government runs education, we will never be number one.

Perhaps then, being an obvious expert on education, you can show us which of the several countries that are better than us in the area of education do not have government run education.

the libcommie govt monopoly here of course is a huge and tragic disaster that produces about the dumbest kids in the civilized world so it should be abolished, obviously. In China Japan and Korea for example, govt education is somewhat successful but only because the entire culture values education enough that kids go to school long hours 7 days a week with no complaint. Our situation is entirely different and requires a very different solution like capitalism which is the only realistic alternative for us.
Or, said another way, ed has no idea. That every nation in the world with a better education system than that which the US provides happens to be free government run education is beyond him. Poor dumb con troll.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

That every nation in the world with a better education system that the US provides free government run education is beyond him. .

dear we have free govt education too and it doesn't work. Now do you understand??????? 1+1=2

do you want to keep tweeking our soviet system or switch to freedom and capitalism. A liberal despises the idea of parents spending their own money on the schools they want for their own children!! Far better for a soviet bureaucrat to make the decisions!!

 

[Rshermr]

Why not just shoot them as babies. I mean, don't go to the point where you must use the brains you do not have. And forget that whole idea of democracy. Just do what the right wing nut cases suggest. dipshit.

They give up their human rights the moment they kill or rape someone else. Got it. So you get to determine they are guilty? Or do you not care as long as you get to blather con talking points, dip shit? OhMore Liberals protecting criminals, as expected of people who lack morals, ethics, and values. No, me poor ignorant con troll. No one is protecting criminals. That is simply you lying. Again. Dipshit. As a nation, however, we do consider those accused as innocent until proven guilty. Then they deserve what they get. But no, me stupid con troll, no liberal I have ever known has suggested they want to protect guilty individuals. Just another of your lies. Which you can not provide a link to prove, because you are lying again. Dipshit.

 

[Rshermr]

That every nation in the world with a better education system that the US provides free government run education is beyond him. .

dear we have free govt education too and it doesn't work. Now do you understand??????? 1+1=2
Wish you would stop calling me dear. I know your homo sexual, but I just happen not to be.
do you want to keep tweeking our soviet system or switch to freedom and capitalism. Perhaps you can name that capitalistic system of private education you are talking about. Because it does not exist in any nation, just in your addled mind. A liberal despises the idea of parents spending their own money on the schools they want for their own children!! Not at all. It is simply that it does not exist in the world. All the better systems are simply government systems that work better than ours. Far better for a soviet bureaucrat to make the decisions!
Jesus, it must be painful to be as stupid as you. There are no soviet bureaucrats except in your addled mind, dipshit. Simple as that. Now, want to try again to name a nation with private run school systems educating the majority of their students? If you have any truth in your statements, that should be easy. But, since you are a lying con troll, you will fail again.

 

[Rshermr]

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If there's money in it, it can be privatized, and done more efficiently. There is money in fixing infrastructure, but not in the fast and focused form capitalism requires. So, like in all ignorant countries that think like our corporations do, nothing will happen, and slowly we will loose companies to countries that do address their infrastructure. While we wave good by to corporations, and profits, and jobs. Dipshit. Good thinking. Like the GPS, technology that money can be made off of would advance far faster in the private sector.
GPS Technology. So you would like the government to invent new technology and hand it over to private businesses, free of charge. So you are not a capitalist after all, you simply want the government to invent and develop the technology, put up the infrastructure, and allow private companies to make billions of bucks. Now, that is an interesting largely socialist system. How many billions of dollars do you plan on setting up those technologies? You do know, I assume, that gps was developed by the gov.
Infrastructure is not a subsidy, and if it were, there would be money for the private sector in that, too. Wow. That was a really stupid sentence. Did someone suggest that infrastructure was a subsidy?

What nation do you think is going to conquer us, dipshit. Who pays even half as much as we do on defense? I know you have no idea, so go take a look. dipshit.[/UOTE]
Oh, more insults, how mature. Any Nation that wants our resources would try, especially if we weaken our defense, as Liberals love to do.

OK. Who would you like to rewrite it, dipshit?
I assume you would like the wealthy to pay higher taxes, eh.

No, I don't actually think businesses should pay taxes. As it is, the tax code is designed to only tax the competitors of the Establishment, not that businesses pay taxes, anyway, it's passed down to the middle class in the form of higher good and service prices, and lay-offs. Congratulations, that may be your stupidest post yet. Nice. Got a link to that drivel?[/QUOTE]

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. Perhaps you can name that capitalistic system of private education you are talking about. Because it does not exist in any nation, .

dear, nobody said it existed in a pure form anymore than pure communism, capitalism, or libertarianism exist in a pure form. No idea why the non existence of something makes you think it cant exist or should not exist. America and freedom from govt did not exist 200 years ago yet today it is the source of civilization on earth.

Notice how I can defeat your entire lifes "thinking" with just very few words?

 

[Rshermr]

. Perhaps you can name that capitalistic system of private education you are talking about. Because it does not exist in any nation, .

dear, nobody said it existed in a pure form anymore than pure communism, capitalism, or libertarianism exist in a pure form. No idea why the non existence of something makes you think it cant exist or should not exist. America and freedom from govt did not exist 200 years ago yet today it is the source of civilization on earth.

Notice how I can defeat your entire lifes "thinking" with just very few words?

But then, you are a libertarian, me poor ignorant con troll. Worshiping a socio economic system that never existed, and never will Proving you are the king of all idiots.

And that you defeat anyone, me boy? Only in your poor addled mind, dipshit. Ah. So you are saying with over 35 advanced nations and over a period of over 200 years, neither laissez faire capitalism, or Libertarianism, nor a predominantly private school system existed. But really, people, just wait. It will.
You just proved yourself again to be a congenital idiot. And a con troll working for the wealthy. Dipshit.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Worshiping a socio economic system that never existed, .

actually America was founded as a libertarian country. Notice how easy it is to defeat a liberal??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

But really, people, just wait. It will.

dear, I didn't say it will exist just that libertarian conservatives want it to exist. 1+1=2