Henry Hill dies.

well, that was different, goodfellas was true to life, no on captures an era better than Scorsese, I grew up in Brooklyn;).

casino was good too oh and donny brasco....

Not to keep harping on about books; but, both the Casino and Donnie Brasco book were quite good as well.

I never read casino, who wrote it?

Nicholas Pileggi -- the author of Wiseguy. He also worked on the screenplay for both movies.
 
Where Goodfellas was as good and maybe even better than the book, Casino was - in my opinion - not as good as the book. Don't get me wrong, the movie is good - really good - but, not as good as the book.
 
Ok, what's with the 'Free No 18625' I keep seeing? I googled it and got nothing.
 
Considering his chosen profession and decision to be a snitch....Henry Hill lived a long life
 
I would put both Godfathers ahead of Goodfellas. Maybe Casino, also.

I haven't seen Scorcese's third gangster movie, The Departed, yet.
 
Good bloke..RIP Henry..

He was?

Why?

good question and you're inference is correct.

lets be honest, just becasue Hollywood glamorized them doesn't make them good people.

they stole, coerced with violence ( protection rackets) , shylocked ( loaned money at userous rates) murdered etc.....they are not nor were not good citizens.

They were sharks that fed on anything and everyone around them,including each other when they could.

oh yes their neighborhoods may have been safe but thats only becasue they did for a while have a code that said you don't do dirt where you live, not becasue they loved their neighbors but becasue it made good sense from a selfish stand point, the locals would watch their back ( to an extent ) to, if the cops where performing surveillance or asking around for witnesses etc. they were warned, also becasue, the locals were also afraid if they didn't.


did anyone forget the Jewish toupee shop owner who got his throat slit becasue he kept asking for his money?



the godfather was a different movie altogether that glamorized that life too, it never ever was anywhere near that smarmy sentimentalism portrayed there, that's BS.
 
I would put both Godfathers ahead of Goodfellas. Maybe Casino, also.

I haven't seen Scorcese's third gangster movie, The Departed, yet.

rent it.....on't get up to use the head or get a snack, unless you pause it, its a very intricate story and very very good inho. Different style altogether....from the others we have been discussing.
 
It's in my Netflix queue.

Funny, I was watching Goodfellas last night, and went to Wiki afterward to look up Tommy DiSimone, the real life creep who Joe Pesci played, which led me to Jimmy Burke (DeNiro) and Paulie Vario (Sorvino) and Henry Hill, where I saw that he had just died. Each of those Wiki profiles are very interesting reading. And the events in Goodfellas are 90-95% true, according to a lot of people. None of them were nice guys at all, despite the way that DeNiro and Paul Sorvino softened up their characters. They were horrible degenerates and psychopaths.

Maybe that's why Goodfellas isn't as high up on my list - there was no one to root for, no one with a shred of redeeming qualities.
 
It's in my Netflix queue.

Funny, I was watching Goodfellas last night, and went to Wiki afterward to look up Tommy DiSimone, the real life creep who Joe Pesci played, which led me to Jimmy Burke (DeNiro) and Paulie Vario (Sorvino) and Henry Hill, where I saw that he had just died. Each of those Wiki profiles are very interesting reading. And the events in Goodfellas are 90-95% true, according to a lot of people. None of them were nice guys at all, despite the way that DeNiro and Paul Sorvino softened up their characters. They were horrible degenerates and psychopaths.

Maybe that's why Goodfellas isn't as high up on my list - there was no one to root for, no one with a shred of redeeming qualities.

Well to be fair I don't think a genuine good person could last long in that world.
 
It's in my Netflix queue.

Funny, I was watching Goodfellas last night, and went to Wiki afterward to look up Tommy DiSimone, the real life creep who Joe Pesci played, which led me to Jimmy Burke (DeNiro) and Paulie Vario (Sorvino) and Henry Hill, where I saw that he had just died. Each of those Wiki profiles are very interesting reading. And the events in Goodfellas are 90-95% true, according to a lot of people. None of them were nice guys at all, despite the way that DeNiro and Paul Sorvino softened up their characters. They were horrible degenerates and psychopaths.

Maybe that's why Goodfellas isn't as high up on my list - there was no one to root for, no one with a shred of redeeming qualities.

Well to be fair I don't think a genuine good person could last long in that world.
This is Jimmy "The Gent" Burke, whom Robert DeNiro played.

What a charmer!

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He got his nickname from being an extremely good tipper, which I'm sure he saw as good business.

I did find little pockets of kindness, mixed with brutality:

His subsequent career in loan-sharking, cigarette smuggling, extortion, drug-dealing, hijacking and armed robbery was built on a lethal fusion of benevolence and murder. Burke earned his sobriquet "the Gent" from his tendency to tip heavily, and to treat the drivers of lorries that he hijacked well. When Burke heard of a young criminal who refused to pay back a $5,000 loan to his elderly mother, he gave the woman the money out of his own pocket, and then killed the errant son. He also murdered and dismembered the body of the ex-boyfriend of his bride-to-be on the eve of their marriage, and murdered his best friend as repayment for being double-crossed over a lorry-load of cigarettes.
Obituary: Jimmy Burke - Obituaries - News - The Independent
 
It's in my Netflix queue.

Funny, I was watching Goodfellas last night, and went to Wiki afterward to look up Tommy DiSimone, the real life creep who Joe Pesci played, which led me to Jimmy Burke (DeNiro) and Paulie Vario (Sorvino) and Henry Hill, where I saw that he had just died. Each of those Wiki profiles are very interesting reading. And the events in Goodfellas are 90-95% true, according to a lot of people. None of them were nice guys at all, despite the way that DeNiro and Paul Sorvino softened up their characters. They were horrible degenerates and psychopaths.

Maybe that's why Goodfellas isn't as high up on my list - there was no one to root for, no one with a shred of redeeming qualities.

Well to be fair I don't think a genuine good person could last long in that world.
This is Jimmy "The Gent" Burke, whom Robert DeNiro played.

What a charmer!

zzzzzzzjimmyburke.jpg



He got his nickname from being an extremely good tipper, which I'm sure he saw as good business.

I did find little pockets of kindness, mixed with brutality:

His subsequent career in loan-sharking, cigarette smuggling, extortion, drug-dealing, hijacking and armed robbery was built on a lethal fusion of benevolence and murder. Burke earned his sobriquet "the Gent" from his tendency to tip heavily, and to treat the drivers of lorries that he hijacked well. When Burke heard of a young criminal who refused to pay back a $5,000 loan to his elderly mother, he gave the woman the money out of his own pocket, and then killed the errant son. He also murdered and dismembered the body of the ex-boyfriend of his bride-to-be on the eve of their marriage, and murdered his best friend as repayment for being double-crossed over a lorry-load of cigarettes.
Obituary: Jimmy Burke - Obituaries - News - The Independent

He was a cold blooded killer, so was Tommy Desomino and everyone else in that crew.
 
Here's Paul Vario, whom Paul Sorvino played:

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Sorvino:
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Vario was known to be brutal and ruthless, despite the brooding and gentle Goodfellas portrayal, Hill saw first hand a show of this violence. He watched, aged twelve or thirteen, as Vario drove up to a barmaid's apartment, took a baseball bat from the trunk of his car and severely assaulted her for telling his wife that the two were having an affair. The barmaid's collar bone was broken.
 

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