Help the Black community

[RKMBrown]

Its true that people make generalizations off of data. However, its how they are taught to interpret that data is what causes problems. Take the test where Black girls are given a choice between a white doll and a black one and most pick the white one. ITs because they have been taught white is right and Black is bad. I have yet to see any Black leader make excuses. I feel like whites want to hear that most Blacks are just screwed up for no reason and anyone with a brain can think for a minute and realize the reason is slavery, the subsequent years of racial oppression, and the continuing neo-racism. Anyone doubting that is either lying to themselves or ignorant of basic human psychology.

I think it will eventually get better as more people wake up. My children have had less issues than I did with racism so far. All I know is that the more my children know about their lineage and what their ancestors have accomplished the more they seem to live up to that standard. I believe if Black children are taught the genius of their Black ethnicity they will realize that they are not inferior no matter what society attempts to tell them. Once Black people can come to the table with an attitude that demands respect instead of begging to be included other peoples latent racist attitudes will disappear. The end game in all this is an advanced, intelligent, multi-cultural society where everyone contributes equally and knowledge is prized. Once all that other crap falls by the way side everyone can be walk tall without guilt, anger, or shame.

Sadly your children are going to come to the table with an unattractive chip on their shoulder. They will approach people with the expectation that people are out to get them instead of out to help them reach their potential. They will take coaching as a racial insult instead of an effort to help them improve as person/professional. They will never reach their potential and you will be the reason. That is sad for them and for society because with the right attitude perhaps they could have created a cure for cancer or be the President of the United States.

They deserve a better father try to grow up.

You must be thoroughly confused. My children are leaders. The 2 younges tutor other children and are required to donate time helping people less fortunate. Their self esteem is so high there is not much that bothers them. They play sports as well and their coaches continually praise me and my wife with what we put in them. I wont be surprised if my youngest indeed creates a cure for cancer. My middle one has her sights set on being an astronaut and my oldest is already working on her masters. They are all extremely brilliant. So unless they take a drastic turn for the worse I am pretty sure you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

I bet if we lived next door to each other we'd be good friends. Cure for cancer ;-) lol shoot high gj...

 

[Asclepias]

Its true that people make generalizations off of data. However, its how they are taught to interpret that data is what causes problems. Take the test where Black girls are given a choice between a white doll and a black one and most pick the white one. ITs because they have been taught white is right and Black is bad. I have yet to see any Black leader make excuses. I feel like whites want to hear that most Blacks are just screwed up for no reason and anyone with a brain can think for a minute and realize the reason is slavery, the subsequent years of racial oppression, and the continuing neo-racism. Anyone doubting that is either lying to themselves or ignorant of basic human psychology.

I think it will eventually get better as more people wake up. My children have had less issues than I did with racism so far. All I know is that the more my children know about their lineage and what their ancestors have accomplished the more they seem to live up to that standard. I believe if Black children are taught the genius of their Black ethnicity they will realize that they are not inferior no matter what society attempts to tell them. Once Black people can come to the table with an attitude that demands respect instead of begging to be included other peoples latent racist attitudes will disappear. The end game in all this is an advanced, intelligent, multi-cultural society where everyone contributes equally and knowledge is prized. Once all that other crap falls by the way side everyone can be walk tall without guilt, anger, or shame.

Sadly your children are going to come to the table with an unattractive chip on their shoulder. They will approach people with the expectation that people are out to get them instead of out to help them reach their potential. They will take coaching as a racial insult instead of an effort to help them improve as person/professional. They will never reach their potential and you will be the reason. That is sad for them and for society because with the right attitude perhaps they could have created a cure for cancer or be the President of the United States.

They deserve a better father try to grow up.

I am sorry if I sound harsh but everyone has issues. My sister has a adopted Chinese orphan with a cleft pallet. He is probably going to be maybe 5'4" and despite many surgeries he will have scars. He has real challenges but we don't let him make excuses. We encourage him into sports where he can excel like wrestling. We support him in his intellectual pursuits which he is amazing. We tell him how smart and successful he will be and we compliment him on his interpersonal skills.

All children need to grow up feeling that they are valuable and that people will help them along the way if they approach them in a positive manner and are open to learning and always getting better. To hear how you talk and the negative attitudes you are infusing into your children is emotionally painful and makes me angry. They deserve better and you simply must do better.

Sounds like your sister and your family are doing an excellent job. Does your sister tell the child that he doesnt have a cleft pallet, or that he wont be short, or that he will not have scars as a result of his surgeries? i'm going to guess no. She probably lets him know what he has to deal with and how to do so without feeling sorry for himself. I do the same. I dont infuse negative attitudes. I tell them the truth and how to deal with it. I think the worse thing you can do is handicap your children by lying to them. It always comes back and will bite you in the end.

 

[Asclepias]

And so what is your final answer in it all ? What do you propose is the best solution or are you afraid to let your true feelings be known here about it all ? You want to tell us how you know the past so well, so then tell us what is in the future or what it is that you wish was in the future in it all ?

I know, I know you want an end to all racism of course, but what is left standing at the end of that thought in your world of thinking ?

I think it will eventually get better as more people wake up. My children have had less issues than I did with racism so far. All I know is that the more my children know about their lineage and what their ancestors have accomplished the more they seem to live up to that standard. I believe if Black children are taught the genius of their Black ethnicity they will realize that they are not inferior no matter what society attempts to tell them. Once Black people can come to the table with an attitude that demands respect instead of begging to be included other peoples latent racist attitudes will disappear. The end game in all this is an advanced, intelligent, multi-cultural society where everyone contributes equally and knowledge is prized. Once all that other crap falls by the way side everyone can be walk tall without guilt, anger, or shame.

But what about when Bill Cosby leads the way as a good role model, and then he easily breaks the barriers down with his brilliance, but then he is looked at as an uncle Tom in life because of his role playing in this way in life ?

Who told you Bill Cosby was an uncle tom? Thats a new one on me. Mr Cosby is an amazing person and I admire what he has done.

 

[Asclepias]

how do you force everyone to contribute equally?

You may be confusing equal opportunity and equal outcomes.

You wont have to force anyone to do anything. It will become a social norm. I've seen what kind of environment a group of intelligent, positive, like minded people can produce.

As in socialized norm ? Are you a socialist ?

No I'm not a socialist. I am an amateur behaviorist. I read people in group settings as well as in 1 on 1 settings for a living. I know the power of influence a crowd has on the individual.

 

[Asclepias]

how do you force everyone to contribute equally?

You may be confusing equal opportunity and equal outcomes.

You wont have to force anyone to do anything. It will become a social norm. I've seen what kind of environment a group of intelligent, positive, like minded people can produce.

No worker left behind? If someone does to much work we stop them? If an artist creates to many works we burn them? You say your kid will cure cancer.. what about all the other kids, why can't they do it first? nudge

Thats a good problem to deal with. I have faith my child will do it first. Just a feeling I have. Nothing against all the other kids.

 

[RKMBrown]

Sadly your children are going to come to the table with an unattractive chip on their shoulder. They will approach people with the expectation that people are out to get them instead of out to help them reach their potential. They will take coaching as a racial insult instead of an effort to help them improve as person/professional. They will never reach their potential and you will be the reason. That is sad for them and for society because with the right attitude perhaps they could have created a cure for cancer or be the President of the United States.

They deserve a better father try to grow up.

I am sorry if I sound harsh but everyone has issues. My sister has a adopted Chinese orphan with a cleft pallet. He is probably going to be maybe 5'4" and despite many surgeries he will have scars. He has real challenges but we don't let him make excuses. We encourage him into sports where he can excel like wrestling. We support him in his intellectual pursuits which he is amazing. We tell him how smart and successful he will be and we compliment him on his interpersonal skills.

All children need to grow up feeling that they are valuable and that people will help them along the way if they approach them in a positive manner and are open to learning and always getting better. To hear how you talk and the negative attitudes you are infusing into your children is emotionally painful and makes me angry. They deserve better and you simply must do better.

Sounds like your sister and your family are doing an excellent job. Does your sister tell the child that he doesnt have a cleft pallet, or that he wont be short, or that he will not have scars as a result of his surgeries? i'm going to guess no. She probably lets him know what he has to deal with and how to do so without feeling sorry for himself. I do the same. I dont infuse negative attitudes. I tell them the truth and how to deal with it. I think the worse thing you can do is handicap your children by lying to them. It always comes back and will bite you in the end.

Yeah and when they find out being a democrat sucks... nvm you'll find out.

 

[Asclepias]

Sadly your children are going to come to the table with an unattractive chip on their shoulder. They will approach people with the expectation that people are out to get them instead of out to help them reach their potential. They will take coaching as a racial insult instead of an effort to help them improve as person/professional. They will never reach their potential and you will be the reason. That is sad for them and for society because with the right attitude perhaps they could have created a cure for cancer or be the President of the United States.

They deserve a better father try to grow up.

You must be thoroughly confused. My children are leaders. The 2 younges tutor other children and are required to donate time helping people less fortunate. Their self esteem is so high there is not much that bothers them. They play sports as well and their coaches continually praise me and my wife with what we put in them. I wont be surprised if my youngest indeed creates a cure for cancer. My middle one has her sights set on being an astronaut and my oldest is already working on her masters. They are all extremely brilliant. So unless they take a drastic turn for the worse I am pretty sure you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

I bet if we lived next door to each other we'd be good friends. Cure for cancer ;-) lol shoot high gj...

The actual quote I like is from this accomplished person I have had the pleasure of meeting and talking with.

Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.
― Les Brown

 

[RKMBrown]

You wont have to force anyone to do anything. It will become a social norm. I've seen what kind of environment a group of intelligent, positive, like minded people can produce.

No worker left behind? If someone does to much work we stop them? If an artist creates to many works we burn them? You say your kid will cure cancer.. what about all the other kids, why can't they do it first? nudge

Thats a good problem to deal with. I have faith my child will do it first. Just a feeling I have. Nothing against all the other kids.

That "feeling" you have is the beginnings of a conservative attitude. Careful.

 

[RKMBrown]

You must be thoroughly confused. My children are leaders. The 2 younges tutor other children and are required to donate time helping people less fortunate. Their self esteem is so high there is not much that bothers them. They play sports as well and their coaches continually praise me and my wife with what we put in them. I wont be surprised if my youngest indeed creates a cure for cancer. My middle one has her sights set on being an astronaut and my oldest is already working on her masters. They are all extremely brilliant. So unless they take a drastic turn for the worse I am pretty sure you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

I bet if we lived next door to each other we'd be good friends. Cure for cancer ;-) lol shoot high gj...

The actual quote I like is from this accomplished person I have had the pleasure of meeting and talking with.

Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.
― Les Brown

I wanted to be as successful as Bill Gates... then I worked with him. Eh.. he's not so smart, coding skills were barely average, just the right guy in the right place at the right time with the right mom... Now I just want to have fun, spend time with the wife & kids, ...

 

[Asclepias]

I am sorry if I sound harsh but everyone has issues. My sister has a adopted Chinese orphan with a cleft pallet. He is probably going to be maybe 5'4" and despite many surgeries he will have scars. He has real challenges but we don't let him make excuses. We encourage him into sports where he can excel like wrestling. We support him in his intellectual pursuits which he is amazing. We tell him how smart and successful he will be and we compliment him on his interpersonal skills.

All children need to grow up feeling that they are valuable and that people will help them along the way if they approach them in a positive manner and are open to learning and always getting better. To hear how you talk and the negative attitudes you are infusing into your children is emotionally painful and makes me angry. They deserve better and you simply must do better.

Sounds like your sister and your family are doing an excellent job. Does your sister tell the child that he doesnt have a cleft pallet, or that he wont be short, or that he will not have scars as a result of his surgeries? i'm going to guess no. She probably lets him know what he has to deal with and how to do so without feeling sorry for himself. I do the same. I dont infuse negative attitudes. I tell them the truth and how to deal with it. I think the worse thing you can do is handicap your children by lying to them. It always comes back and will bite you in the end.

Yeah and when they find out being a democrat sucks... nvm you'll find out.

I teach them to vote for what is best for society and not what is best specifically for themselves. They know that by helping others get what they want you can have anything you want. Dems and Reps are basically the same. I wouldnt be surprised if it was a staged act to keep people fighting amongst each other.

 

[Asclepias]

No worker left behind? If someone does to much work we stop them? If an artist creates to many works we burn them? You say your kid will cure cancer.. what about all the other kids, why can't they do it first? nudge

Thats a good problem to deal with. I have faith my child will do it first. Just a feeling I have. Nothing against all the other kids.

That "feeling" you have is the beginnings of a conservative attitude. Careful.

I could never be a traditional conservative. I care about people too much.

 

[RKMBrown]

Sounds like your sister and your family are doing an excellent job. Does your sister tell the child that he doesnt have a cleft pallet, or that he wont be short, or that he will not have scars as a result of his surgeries? i'm going to guess no. She probably lets him know what he has to deal with and how to do so without feeling sorry for himself. I do the same. I dont infuse negative attitudes. I tell them the truth and how to deal with it. I think the worse thing you can do is handicap your children by lying to them. It always comes back and will bite you in the end.

Yeah and when they find out being a democrat sucks... nvm you'll find out.

I teach them to vote for what is best for society and not what is best specifically for themselves. They know that by helping others get what they want you can have anything you want. Dems and Reps are basically the same. I wouldnt be surprised if it was a staged act to keep people fighting amongst each other.

Hand outs don't help people, they cripple them. Throwing good money after swine is a waste of god's resources. Teach them to be independent of both parties and vote for the best candidate based on sound time honored polices that promote liberty and prosperity for all.

 

[Asclepias]

I bet if we lived next door to each other we'd be good friends. Cure for cancer ;-) lol shoot high gj...

The actual quote I like is from this accomplished person I have had the pleasure of meeting and talking with.

Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.
― Les Brown

I wanted to be as successful as Bill Gates... then I worked with him. Eh.. he's not so smart, coding skills were barely average, just the right guy in the right place at the right time with the right mom... Now I just want to have fun, spend time with the wife & kids, ...

You tend to find that out when you meet famous or accomplished people. They normally have excellent interpersonal skills and know how to delegate. His skills are in engaging people more than coding i would bet. Its good to feel comfortable in your own skin and family is always first.

 

[RKMBrown]

The actual quote I like is from this accomplished person I have had the pleasure of meeting and talking with.

I wanted to be as successful as Bill Gates... then I worked with him. Eh.. he's not so smart, coding skills were barely average, just the right guy in the right place at the right time with the right mom... Now I just want to have fun, spend time with the wife & kids, ...

You tend to find that out when you meet famous or accomplished people. They normally have excellent interpersonal skills and know how to delegate. His skills are in engaging people more than coding i would bet. Its good to feel comfortable in your own skin and family is always first.

Not really. He's just an average guy with a ton of money. First time I met him he was selling me on the concept of porting my applications to a new operating system called OS/2. He was just a geeky kid, enthusiastic about technology. A decade later I ended up working on one of his operating systems as a lead architect. At that time he was more reserved, but really just a geeky older person that was enthusiastic about technology.

Nah.. some people really are just that lucky.

 

[Asclepias]

Yeah and when they find out being a democrat sucks... nvm you'll find out.

I teach them to vote for what is best for society and not what is best specifically for themselves. They know that by helping others get what they want you can have anything you want. Dems and Reps are basically the same. I wouldnt be surprised if it was a staged act to keep people fighting amongst each other.

Hand outs don't help people, they cripple them. Throwing good money after swine is a waste of god's resources. Teach them to be independent of both parties and vote for the best candidate based on sound time honored polices that promote liberty and prosperity for all.

Handouts cripple people when you dont follow up and teach. When you have the attitude that people are swine it shows in your body language and tone of your voice. They sense that on a subconscious level and will withdraw and ignore your attempts to assist. Its not that you are throwing anything away. Your mindset has to be one of empathy, respect and genuine concern. They subconsciously sense that as well and respond to whatever you are trying to teach them. Most people don't have the time or patience to learn and implement that knowledge. They only have themselves to blame when what they thought was well intentioned fails miserably.

 

[Asclepias]

I wanted to be as successful as Bill Gates... then I worked with him. Eh.. he's not so smart, coding skills were barely average, just the right guy in the right place at the right time with the right mom... Now I just want to have fun, spend time with the wife & kids, ...

You tend to find that out when you meet famous or accomplished people. They normally have excellent interpersonal skills and know how to delegate. His skills are in engaging people more than coding i would bet. Its good to feel comfortable in your own skin and family is always first.

Not really. He's just an average guy with a ton of money. First time I met him he was selling me on the concept of porting my applications to a new operating system called OS/2. He was just a geeky kid, enthusiastic about technology. A decade later I ended up working on one of his operating systems as a lead architect. At that time he was more reserved, but really just a geeky older person that was enthusiastic about technology.

Nah.. some people really are just that lucky.

Did you spend a lot of time around him or was this just a brief meeting? I noted you said 2 important things that lets me know he has good interpersonal skills.

he was selling me
just a geeky kid, enthusiastic

 

[RKMBrown]

I teach them to vote for what is best for society and not what is best specifically for themselves. They know that by helping others get what they want you can have anything you want. Dems and Reps are basically the same. I wouldnt be surprised if it was a staged act to keep people fighting amongst each other.

Hand outs don't help people, they cripple them. Throwing good money after swine is a waste of god's resources. Teach them to be independent of both parties and vote for the best candidate based on sound time honored polices that promote liberty and prosperity for all.

Handouts cripple people when you dont follow up and teach. When you have the attitude that people are swine it shows in your body language and tone of your voice. They sense that on a subconscious level and will withdraw and ignore your attempts to assist. Its not that you are throwing anything away. Your mindset has to be one of empathy, respect and genuine concern. They subconsciously sense that as well and respond to whatever you are trying to teach them. Most people don't have the time or patience to learn and implement that knowledge. They only have themselves to blame when what they thought was well intentioned fails miserably.

Good.

No one should ever desire a handout. To desire handouts is anathema to me. I'll wear that on my sleeve proudly. Hand-ups are entirely different. It's entirely likely that the difference, as I see it, is not readily obvious to you as we may not be using the same definitions of terms. This is a common communication issue.

Teaching someone to fish is the classic example of a hand-up. Giving someone free fish every day is the classic example of a handout.

 

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[RKMBrown]

You tend to find that out when you meet famous or accomplished people. They normally have excellent interpersonal skills and know how to delegate. His skills are in engaging people more than coding i would bet. Its good to feel comfortable in your own skin and family is always first.

Not really. He's just an average guy with a ton of money. First time I met him he was selling me on the concept of porting my applications to a new operating system called OS/2. He was just a geeky kid, enthusiastic about technology. A decade later I ended up working on one of his operating systems as a lead architect. At that time he was more reserved, but really just a geeky older person that was enthusiastic about technology.

Nah.. some people really are just that lucky.

Did you spend a lot of time around him or was this just a brief meeting? I noted you said 2 important things that lets me know he has good interpersonal skills.

he was selling me
just a geeky kid, enthusiastic

Lots of meetings. He had ok interpersonal skills. Really, just a regular guy for an engineer, with a massive bank account. The meetings were all note-able, not because of him, but rather because of who he was. If that makes any sense.

Put it this way he was no Reagan or Clinton or Steve Jobs.

 

[Asclepias]

Not really. He's just an average guy with a ton of money. First time I met him he was selling me on the concept of porting my applications to a new operating system called OS/2. He was just a geeky kid, enthusiastic about technology. A decade later I ended up working on one of his operating systems as a lead architect. At that time he was more reserved, but really just a geeky older person that was enthusiastic about technology.

Nah.. some people really are just that lucky.

Did you spend a lot of time around him or was this just a brief meeting? I noted you said 2 important things that lets me know he has good interpersonal skills.

he was selling me
just a geeky kid, enthusiastic

Lots of meetings. He had ok interpersonal skills. Really, just a regular guy for an engineer, with a massive bank account. The meetings were all note-able, not because of him, but rather because of who he was. If that makes any sense.

Put it this way he was no Reagan or Clinton or Steve Jobs.

There is something you may have missed. You dont become that wealthy and stay that way by being just a run of the mill engineer. You have to have some influence. Their is no such thing as luck I have found. You work and build yourself to the point where your skills and perceptions enable you to spot opportunities everyone else missed and write off as luck. The guy is a marketing genius and thats why the crappy OS windows is a staple across the world and with end users on the business side.