Heated disagreement breaks out in Situation Room over hydroxychloroquine, Navarro vs Fauci

[Seawytch]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

You have the audacity to call someone else uneducated while posting a Facebook link to the Epoch Times? You're not even worth being labeled a joke!

Watch the video. The fact that you don't believe that China has one iota of blame is pure insanity.

No. I'm not going to watch some video from a site KNOWN for their conspiracy theories. You might as well link to the National Enquirer.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

You have the audacity to call someone else uneducated while posting a Facebook link to the Epoch Times? You're not even worth being labeled a joke!

Watch the video. The fact that you don't believe that China has one iota of blame is pure insanity.

No. I'm not going to watch some video from a site KNOWN for their conspiracy theories. You might as well link to the National Enquirer.

Again, if you believe China has zero blame here, you're utterly insane.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I think Fauci seeks the spotlight too often and he is a little too sure of himself for my tastes for this type of situation with many unknowns. I'm glad when Trump calls him out about wanting to shut the country down for 2 years

Whoa, hold the phone here! Can you link me to where Fauci said he wants to shut the country down for 2 years, or are you just lying?

It’s been said. And the virus is expected to return in the Fall and be here for years.

 

[Seawytch]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

You have the audacity to call someone else uneducated while posting a Facebook link to the Epoch Times? You're not even worth being labeled a joke!

Watch the video. The fact that you don't believe that China has one iota of blame is pure insanity.

No. I'm not going to watch some video from a site KNOWN for their conspiracy theories. You might as well link to the National Enquirer.

Again, if you believe China has zero blame here, you're utterly insane.

Humans are to blame for encroaching upon territory inhabited by animals. You'r "blame China" rhetoric is stupid and dangerous.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What "government edicts", and issued by who, destroyed people's lives?

Are you REALLY this dishonest, or just mind numbing stupid?

Coronavirus lockdown: What businesses and services are open in California?

The Bay Area’s shelter in place order was extended through May, with some changes....

www.sfchronicle.com

What is it about government workers that you despise so much that you hate to see them not suffer due to this pandemic?

And the answer to your question(s) is nope, nope and nope. I work for a private company.

Government workers don't give a FUCK about the lockdown, they will get a paycheck regardless, which 23 million and growing by the hour have their lives ruined by it.

I GUARANTEE if you had lost your job, you'd care.

Time to let people go back to work.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I know this much, Navarro has been a hawk on China, well ahead of the game in terms of what threat they pose to the world. The guy I probably most trust in his administration to stay the course on confronting abusers of America.

Navarro is not a medical expert. He's a fourth rate fake economist literally picked off Amazon.com by Kushner like a bottle of shampoo.

Nor are you a medical expert.

As for China: Most New York Coronavirus Cases Came From Europe, Genomes Show

You know Guno, you're a fucking moron. 12,000 dead from the Wuhan virus your masters unleashed on the world.

23,000,000 American lives ruined by the economic devastation of destroying our economy.

I'd say the 1st class economist is equally important to any health care expert at this point.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

It came from China...........SARs 2003 came from China...........They eat anything that moves.............They eat shit not fit for human consumption because of their population. And have given DEATH to the world.

How about we do some fly overs there......and say.......OOPS.....Sorry I was eating a sandwich and hit the wrong button.........Sorry.

Most New York Coronavirus Cases Came From Europe, Genomes Show (Published 2020)

Travelers seeded multiple cases starting as early as mid-February, genomes show.

www.nytimes.com

Oh look, Communist Chinese propaganda.

How convincing....

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

You have the audacity to call someone else uneducated while posting a Facebook link to the Epoch Times? You're not even worth being labeled a joke!

Watch the video. The fact that you don't believe that China has one iota of blame is pure insanity.

No. I'm not going to watch some video from a site KNOWN for their conspiracy theories. You might as well link to the National Enquirer.

Again, if you believe China has zero blame here, you're utterly insane.

Humans are to blame for encroaching upon territory inhabited by animals. You'r "blame China" rhetoric is stupid and dangerous.

Actually your denial of their criminality and cover up is stupid and dangerous.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Written yesterday by yours truly, "The New York metro area, which includes parts of New Jersey, is the perfect breeding ground for a common cold virus, and this virus is especially dangerous. N.Y. has experienced a cold, wet winter that lasted for four months. Older people, the homeless, and the poor dominate the downtown area, and they rely on public transportation. A dangerous virus is easily past on from person to person. Many probably didn't know what hit them.

"Total deaths in three and a half months in the U.S. is 16,548. 7,067 are in New York, 1,700 in New Jersey, 1,076 in Michigan, and 702 in Louisiana for a total of 10,545. That leaves 6,003 for the other 46 states. That is the normal death rate among the old, the sick, the poor, and the homeless for 46 states."

There were 2,017 new deaths yesterday. 1,310 deaths occurred in the four coldest states in the country during the winter months, New York, New Jersey, Michigan, and Massachusetts. 707 occurred in the other 46 states.

To put this in perspective, California with a population of over 39 million, the largest state in terms of population, had 31 deaths yesterday.

Scientists may finally be able to confirm the widely-held suspicion that bad weather can make you sick.

While the common cold’s name seems to imply that cold weather is responsible for the nose-running, throat-burning misery, the scientific community has been unable to establish exactly how a chill in the air might lead to the sniffles—until now. Just last week, a team of scientists from Yale University announced their discovery that lower temperatures weaken the [body's] first line of immune defenses.

Scientists Finally Prove Why Cold Weather Makes You Sick | NOVA | PBS | NOVA | PBS

 

[ColonelAngus]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

do you live in the US

I live in Boston MA. Can you not read? Idiot.

do you have the virus

I have an entire thread on it. Visit it and see for yourself. Yes, I did. Now recovered and immune. China caused it so they can kiss my ass. As can you for not holding China accountable.

then some idiot in mass gave it to you. not china.

the toronado that started in kansas destroyed oklahoma city making it Kansas's fault

yore a f'n idiot supreme -

Tornado is a natural phenomenon you dumbass. China started this virus and then lied about it so it spread here. You’re so stupid it hurts.

nobody believes you had the virus and recovered - youre here too often.

what you had was your head up trumps ass, polishing his turds

Why are you so disgusting?

 

[ColonelAngus]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

Months and years? Hydrox has been around for 70 years. What are you researching? Doctors all over the world are using it. People are dying now. There is no more time to research. What part of that do you not understand? Doctors are prescribing it. Millions of doses. Do you not read/watch the news? Wake up, Leftist.

I watch the news every day as well as post here. And I know desperation when I smell it. A desperate bid to save Trump's chances in November. Yes, these drugs have been around for years....and are approved to treat certain conditions..which there is a plethora of data for detailing their benefits..after years of research and testing. The FDA took the rails down and doctors are free to prescribe these drugs if they believe they will help the patient. The drug has shown promise in treating infected patients. But taking something that has shown promise in a small group (relatively speaking) and extrapolating that out to say it works for everyone is dangerous. Doctors prescribe medications and decide if they are appropriate. Not politicians or right wing media figures.

So who said it will work for everybody?

That's what the hope is for Trump's supporters. Distribute the drug to all infected. Send everyone back to work, open things up. Presto, Trump gets to do the one thing he's good at again. Campaign.

Trump? How about all the struggling Americans who need the jobs and the income? Your TDS is working overtime today. A great economy is great for everyone. You would rather watch people die and suffer so long as Trump loses? That is frankly sick.

Well, maybe if Trump acts like a President in January and takes the virus outbreak seriously, shutting down the country might not have been needed. But he decided it was more important to golf, hold his rallies, and tweet than it was to actually do his job. But his rabid supporters refuse to hold him accountable. It's everybody else's fault. Yes Trump Defense Syndrome is rampant. It is proving especially resistant to the drug combination of reason and common sense.

China and the WHO were lying to the world about it. If Trump ignored them, you would have said he was dumping on the experts. You are FOS

One of the things that makes me shake my head about rabid Trump supporters like you is that you will never hold him accountable for anything. It's always someone else's fault. Same crap Trump has been pulling his entire adult life.
We are the greatest nation in the world. We don't wait for any country or organization to act before we do. Trump is an incompetent fraud. It's no surprise he failed to act. He doesn't have the capacity.

I hold him fully responsible for our rapid and effective response to this virus.

Its Ok, if you hate him, but please stop the lies about the virus response. It has been outstanding in every way.

No he hasn't. Outside of restricting travel from China and Europe, he largely did nothing until he was forced to on March 13th. But if that's the bar you supporters set for him, that's not my problem. If Trump displayed your idea of "outstanding" in my company, he'd have already been shown the door. I understand he's your guy, though.

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

Months and years? Hydrox has been around for 70 years. What are you researching? Doctors all over the world are using it. People are dying now. There is no more time to research. What part of that do you not understand? Doctors are prescribing it. Millions of doses. Do you not read/watch the news? Wake up, Leftist.

I watch the news every day as well as post here. And I know desperation when I smell it. A desperate bid to save Trump's chances in November. Yes, these drugs have been around for years....and are approved to treat certain conditions..which there is a plethora of data for detailing their benefits..after years of research and testing. The FDA took the rails down and doctors are free to prescribe these drugs if they believe they will help the patient. The drug has shown promise in treating infected patients. But taking something that has shown promise in a small group (relatively speaking) and extrapolating that out to say it works for everyone is dangerous. Doctors prescribe medications and decide if they are appropriate. Not politicians or right wing media figures.

So who said it will work for everybody?

That's what the hope is for Trump's supporters. Distribute the drug to all infected. Send everyone back to work, open things up. Presto, Trump gets to do the one thing he's good at again. Campaign.

Trump? How about all the struggling Americans who need the jobs and the income? Your TDS is working overtime today. A great economy is great for everyone. You would rather watch people die and suffer so long as Trump loses? That is frankly sick.

Well, maybe if Trump acts like a President in January and takes the virus outbreak seriously, shutting down the country might not have been needed. But he decided it was more important to golf, hold his rallies, and tweet than it was to actually do his job. But his rabid supporters refuse to hold him accountable. It's everybody else's fault. Yes Trump Defense Syndrome is rampant. It is proving especially resistant to the drug combination of reason and common sense.

China and the WHO were lying to the world about it. If Trump ignored them, you would have said he was dumping on the experts. You are FOS

One of the things that makes me shake my head about rabid Trump supporters like you is that you will never hold him accountable for anything. It's always someone else's fault. Same crap Trump has been pulling his entire adult life.
We are the greatest nation in the world. We don't wait for any country or organization to act before we do. Trump is an incompetent fraud. It's no surprise he failed to act. He doesn't have the capacity.

I hold him fully responsible for our rapid and effective response to this virus.

Its Ok, if you hate him, but please stop the lies about the virus response. It has been outstanding in every way.

No he hasn't. Outside of restricting travel from China and Europe, he largely did nothing until he was forced to on March 13th. But if that's the bar you supporters set for him, that's not my problem. If Trump displayed your idea of "outstanding" in my company, he'd have already been shown the door. I understand he's your guy, though.

The President acted on advice from the CDC. They were calling the shots, not the President.

I'm sorry. Last I looked most government agencies don't act unilaterally and call shots without direction or approval from their leaders. While the CDC is going to take its share of lumps over the response to the virus outbreak, Trump is President. It happened on his watch. And it's not like he didn't know it might happen. And maybe his response would have been better if he was more well read, intellectually curious, or smart. Maybe not. I find it curious that none of his supporters will hold him accountable..for anything.
A timeline of how years of missteps and budget cuts undermined the Trump administration's preparedness for COVID-19

How do you hold him accountable for something that hasn't happened in a hundred years? Nobody was prepared for it. That's why it's a problem in nearly every country on earth. Our government gets terrorist threats every day that promise worse than 911. Do we close down the country with every threat?

Again, I don't hold Trump responsible for the virus or even the fact that it made it to our shores. That was inevitable. A product of our well traveled and connected world. I do hold him responsible for his response and subsequent inaction to the virus. Which was largely to hold his pep rallies, campaign, tweet, watch Fox News, and golf. The fact that our country is largely closed down gets laid directly at his feet.

Yes, I know, just like 911 was Bush's fault.

Do you understand what the term Hindsight is 20/20 means?

Yes. I do. But that still doesn't excuse Trump's lack of action. He is President after all.
You need to take those Trump colored glasses off once in a while. Not good for your eyes.

What would you have done and when you have done it?

I would have tweeted telling people to go to work then held a NO BIG BEAL presser- starting a month after the outbreak-

YOU ?

I would have gone to Chinatown like stupid bitty Pelosi.

Pelosi Tours San Francisco's Chinatown To Quell Coronavirus Fears

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi walked through San Francisco's Chinatown District Monday, attempting to quell fears about the current outbreak of the coronavirus that has kept customers out of shops and restaurants and tourists away from the streets.

sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com

must of heard trump tell the country everything was UNDER CONTROL

What is not under control?

Jan. 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.” — Trump in a CNBC interview.


TRY AND KEEP UP - IDIOT

You mean like flu?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I think Fauci seeks the spotlight too often and he is a little too sure of himself for my tastes for this type of situation with many unknowns. I'm glad when Trump calls him out about wanting to shut the country down for 2 years

Whoa, hold the phone here! Can you link me to where Fauci said he wants to shut the country down for 2 years, or are you just lying?

It’s been said. And the virus is expected to return in the Fall and be here for years.

Not if they develop a vaccine early next year.

 

[The VOR]

What "government edicts", and issued by who, destroyed people's lives?

Are you REALLY this dishonest, or just mind numbing stupid?

Coronavirus lockdown: What businesses and services are open in California?

The Bay Area’s shelter in place order was extended through May, with some changes....

www.sfchronicle.com

What is it about government workers that you despise so much that you hate to see them not suffer due to this pandemic?

And the answer to your question(s) is nope, nope and nope. I work for a private company.

Government workers don't give a FUCK about the lockdown, they will get a paycheck regardless, which 23 million and growing by the hour have their lives ruined by it.

I GUARANTEE if you had lost your job, you'd care.

Time to let people go back to work.

You are a moron.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Not if they develop a vaccine early next year.

Don't bet on that.

 

[JoeB131]

It came from China...........SARs 2003 came from China...........They eat anything that moves.............They eat shit not fit for human consumption because of their population. And have given DEATH to the world.

How about we do some fly overs there......and say.......OOPS.....Sorry I was eating a sandwich and hit the wrong button.........Sorry.

Wow, keep trying to blame China for Trump's foulups... that'll work. Or not.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of President Trump's Handling of the Coronavirus

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of President Trump's Handling of the Coronavirus

www.realclearpolitics.com

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

You have the audacity to call someone else uneducated while posting a Facebook link to the Epoch Times? You're not even worth being labeled a joke!

Watch the video. The fact that you don't believe that China has one iota of blame is pure insanity.

No. I'm not going to watch some video from a site KNOWN for their conspiracy theories. You might as well link to the National Enquirer.

Again, if you believe China has zero blame here, you're utterly insane.

Humans are to blame for encroaching upon territory inhabited by animals. You'r "blame China" rhetoric is stupid and dangerous.

You mean honest? If one of my kids breaks a lamp playing with a football indoors I should shrug and just say lamps break and it could have been any one of us?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

It came from China...........SARs 2003 came from China...........They eat anything that moves.............They eat shit not fit for human consumption because of their population. And have given DEATH to the world.

How about we do some fly overs there......and say.......OOPS.....Sorry I was eating a sandwich and hit the wrong button.........Sorry.

Wow, keep trying to blame China for Trump's foulups... that'll work. Or not.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of President Trump's Handling of the Coronavirus

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of President Trump's Handling of the Coronavirus

www.realclearpolitics.com

Joe, go tattle on me again. Do you blame Trump for all the deaths in Europe too? Who should Italy blame? Trump? You’re such an irrational dolt. Go cry to the Mods that I am picking on you again.

 

[Redfish]

Not if they develop a vaccine early next year.

Don't bet on that.

We will very likely have a vaccine before next fall and treatments are already available. The actual mortality rate of the virus keeps going down, and no flu deaths in the entire country in March??? and you think the stats being reported are accurate?

we all understand that you libs want this thing to go on for months and destroy the economy completely, but even if it did, it would not help senile Biden to a win in november.

 

[Redfish]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

You have the audacity to call someone else uneducated while posting a Facebook link to the Epoch Times? You're not even worth being labeled a joke!

Watch the video. The fact that you don't believe that China has one iota of blame is pure insanity.

No. I'm not going to watch some video from a site KNOWN for their conspiracy theories. You might as well link to the National Enquirer.

Again, if you believe China has zero blame here, you're utterly insane.

Humans are to blame for encroaching upon territory inhabited by animals. You'r "blame China" rhetoric is stupid and dangerous.

and with each new post you confirm your insanity. The virus was created in China, whether due to eating bats or intentionally in a lab. Then they and WHO lied to the world about it for a couple of months while it spread. China is to blame, and the WHO should be defunded and disbanded.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

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This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

You have the audacity to call someone else uneducated while posting a Facebook link to the Epoch Times? You're not even worth being labeled a joke!

Watch the video. The fact that you don't believe that China has one iota of blame is pure insanity.

No. I'm not going to watch some video from a site KNOWN for their conspiracy theories. You might as well link to the National Enquirer.

Again, if you believe China has zero blame here, you're utterly insane.

Humans are to blame for encroaching upon territory inhabited by animals. You'r "blame China" rhetoric is stupid and dangerous.

and with each new post you confirm your insanity. The virus was created in China, whether due to eating bats or intentionally in a lab. Then they and WHO lied to the world about it for a couple of months while it spread. China is to blame, and the WHO should be defunded and disbanded.

Just as you are confirming that you will not hold Trump accountable for anything. January 22nd Trump in Davos. Likely to be a defining day in his Presidency. If he comes home, takes the virus threat seriously, and knows his way around government enough to put response efforts into motion, maybe we don't have to shut the entire country down. But you just can't bring yourself to lay any blame at his feet. I've never seen this level of devotion to a public figure in my lifetime. It's almost religious.