Heated disagreement breaks out in Situation Room over hydroxychloroquine, Navarro vs Fauci

[JoeB131]

Joe, go tattle on me again. Do you blame Trump for all the deaths in Europe too? Who should Italy blame? Trump? You’re such an irrational dolt. Go cry to the Mods that I am picking on you again.

Break the rules and I will. I wasn't even talking to you.

Did they spank you hard last time?

 

[JoeB131]

We will very likely have a vaccine before next fall and treatments are already available. The actual mortality rate of the virus keeps going down, and no flu deaths in the entire country in March??? and you think the stats being reported are accurate?

we all understand that you libs want this thing to go on for months and destroy the economy completely, but even if it did, it would not help senile Biden to a win in november.

Actually, Biden was beating Trump even before this pandemic shows why you don't let game show hosts run your country.

(Unless it's Alex Trebek, because that guy is awesome!)

This WILL go on for months. The fact that we are on track to outpace any other country in the world in number of deaths is a problem.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Yes. To the point where NYC alone has more cases than anywhere else in the world.
That is a failure by any measure.

Good to see you Democrats coming to your senses.

Tell us some more about how Trump saved us with a travel ban, dope.

 

[Seawytch]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

You have the audacity to call someone else uneducated while posting a Facebook link to the Epoch Times? You're not even worth being labeled a joke!

Watch the video. The fact that you don't believe that China has one iota of blame is pure insanity.

No. I'm not going to watch some video from a site KNOWN for their conspiracy theories. You might as well link to the National Enquirer.

Again, if you believe China has zero blame here, you're utterly insane.

Humans are to blame for encroaching upon territory inhabited by animals. You'r "blame China" rhetoric is stupid and dangerous.

and with each new post you confirm your insanity. The virus was created in China, whether due to eating bats or intentionally in a lab. Then they and WHO lied to the world about it for a couple of months while it spread. China is to blame, and the WHO should be defunded and disbanded.

Just as you are confirming that you will not hold Trump accountable for anything. January 22nd Trump in Davos. Likely to be a defining day in his Presidency. If he comes home, takes the virus threat seriously, and knows his way around government enough to put response efforts into motion, maybe we don't have to shut the entire country down. But you just can't bring yourself to lay any blame at his feet. I've never seen this level of devotion to a public figure in my lifetime. It's almost religious.

Not religious, cult-like.

Column: Call Trumpism what it is: a cult

The cult diagnosis was confirmed once the president called himself 'the chosen one' and his acolytes agreed.

www.latimes.com

 

[Hutch Starskey]

A memo from Peter Navarro said failure to contain a coronavirus outbreak could lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths and trillions of dollars in economic losses. It is the most direct warning known to have circulated at a key moment among top administration officials.

Trade Adviser Warned White House in January of Risks of a Pandemic (Published 2020)

A memo from Peter Navarro is the most direct warning known to have circulated at a key moment among top administration officials.

www.nytimes.com

I wonder if Navarro himself leaked the memo. It makes him look pretty damn good while it makes Trump look asleep at the wheel, doing nothing to guard the country against this deadly virus despite warnings.

The President shut down entry from China on January 31st and Democrats called him a racist.

The President shut down entry from China on January 31st and Democrats called him a racist.

Brilliant!
Yet we ended up with the most infections in the world.

 

[DBA]

This WILL go on for months. The fact that we are on track to outpace any other country in the world in number of deaths is a problem.

Only to those who never learned the importance and significance of fractions and percentages in 4th grade.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Jan. 30: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.” — Trump in a speech in Michigan.

Feb. 10: “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases — 11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now.” — Trump at the White House. (See our item “Will the New Coronavirus ‘Go Away’ in April?“)

Feb. 14: “There’s a theory that, in April, when it gets warm — historically, that has been able to kill the virus. So we don’t know yet; we’re not sure yet. But that’s around the corner.” — Trump in speaking to National Border Patrol Council members.

Feb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.” — Trump in speaking to reporters.

Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” — Trump in a tweet.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What "government edicts", and issued by who, destroyed people's lives?

Are you REALLY this dishonest, or just mind numbing stupid?

Coronavirus lockdown: What businesses and services are open in California?

The Bay Area’s shelter in place order was extended through May, with some changes....

www.sfchronicle.com

What is it about government workers that you despise so much that you hate to see them not suffer due to this pandemic?

And the answer to your question(s) is nope, nope and nope. I work for a private company.

Government workers don't give a FUCK about the lockdown, they will get a paycheck regardless, which 23 million and growing by the hour have their lives ruined by it.

I GUARANTEE if you had lost your job, you'd care.

Time to let people go back to work.

You are a moron.

THIS is the message going into November.

Assume we added ANOTHER 6 million to the unemployed roles this week:

If you are one of the 29 million Americans who were driven from your job due to government mandates and edicts, remember that democrats under Nancy Pelosi BLOCKED the SBA loans that would give YOU a paycheck. Democrats don't care if you're homeless and your children are hungry, they ONLY care about government workers. No employee of government at any level has or will miss a single paycheck.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Jan. 30: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.” — Trump in a speech in Michigan.

Feb. 10: “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases — 11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now.” — Trump at the White House. (See our item “Will the New Coronavirus ‘Go Away’ in April?“)

Feb. 14: “There’s a theory that, in April, when it gets warm — historically, that has been able to kill the virus. So we don’t know yet; we’re not sure yet. But that’s around the corner.” — Trump in speaking to National Border Patrol Council members.

Feb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.” — Trump in speaking to reporters.

Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” — Trump in a tweet.

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Here is how YOU can end the Wuhan virus, Comrade;

 

[Redfish]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

You have the audacity to call someone else uneducated while posting a Facebook link to the Epoch Times? You're not even worth being labeled a joke!

Watch the video. The fact that you don't believe that China has one iota of blame is pure insanity.

No. I'm not going to watch some video from a site KNOWN for their conspiracy theories. You might as well link to the National Enquirer.

Again, if you believe China has zero blame here, you're utterly insane.

Humans are to blame for encroaching upon territory inhabited by animals. You'r "blame China" rhetoric is stupid and dangerous.

and with each new post you confirm your insanity. The virus was created in China, whether due to eating bats or intentionally in a lab. Then they and WHO lied to the world about it for a couple of months while it spread. China is to blame, and the WHO should be defunded and disbanded.

Just as you are confirming that you will not hold Trump accountable for anything. January 22nd Trump in Davos. Likely to be a defining day in his Presidency. If he comes home, takes the virus threat seriously, and knows his way around government enough to put response efforts into motion, maybe we don't have to shut the entire country down. But you just can't bring yourself to lay any blame at his feet. I've never seen this level of devotion to a public figure in my lifetime. It's almost religious.

On january 22 China and WHO were still lying about the virus. Our own medical "experts" believed those lies and Trump followed the advice of the "experts". That is what you are screaming that he needs to do now, but when he did it then you didn't complain or find any fault. None of the dems at that time were pushing for action on the virus, NOT ONE of them. They were all tied up with their failed fake impeachment fiasco, led by pencil neck and toad boy.

but if we are going to criticize past actions or inactions, why didn't obama do something to prepare the country for such a pandemic? Your kenyan messiah added 9 trillion to our debt, what did we get for that money? Oh, and he sent pallets of cash to terrorists in Iran, what did that buy us?

you are a hypocritical asshole.

 

[Redfish]

Jan. 30: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.” — Trump in a speech in Michigan.

Feb. 10: “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases — 11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now.” — Trump at the White House. (See our item “Will the New Coronavirus ‘Go Away’ in April?“)

Feb. 14: “There’s a theory that, in April, when it gets warm — historically, that has been able to kill the virus. So we don’t know yet; we’re not sure yet. But that’s around the corner.” — Trump in speaking to National Border Patrol Council members.

Feb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.” — Trump in speaking to reporters.

Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” — Trump in a tweet.

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Fauci and all the other experts were saying the same things at those times. Are you saying Trump should have ignored the "experts"?

 

[DBA]

What "government edicts", and issued by who, destroyed people's lives?

Are you REALLY this dishonest, or just mind numbing stupid?

Coronavirus lockdown: What businesses and services are open in California?

The Bay Area’s shelter in place order was extended through May, with some changes....

www.sfchronicle.com

What is it about government workers that you despise so much that you hate to see them not suffer due to this pandemic?

And the answer to your question(s) is nope, nope and nope. I work for a private company.

Government workers don't give a FUCK about the lockdown, they will get a paycheck regardless, which 23 million and growing by the hour have their lives ruined by it.

I GUARANTEE if you had lost your job, you'd care.

Time to let people go back to work.

You are a moron.

THIS is the message going into November.

Assume we added ANOTHER 6 million to the unemployed roles this week:

If you are one of the 29 million Americans who were driven from your job due to government mandates and edicts, remember that democrats under Nancy Pelosi BLOCKED the SBA loans that would give YOU a paycheck. Democrats don't care if you're homeless and your children are hungry, they ONLY care about government workers. No employee of government at any level has or will miss a single paycheck.

If the majority really wants to work and want the economy to recover, they will vote for Trump. If the majority wants handouts and to take other people's money in the name of "fairness", they will vote for whatever wackadoo the Democrats nominate. The lemmings fall right in line with what Benjamin Franklin recognized many years ago.

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.”

 

[BS Filter]

A memo from Peter Navarro said failure to contain a coronavirus outbreak could lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths and trillions of dollars in economic losses. It is the most direct warning known to have circulated at a key moment among top administration officials.

Trade Adviser Warned White House in January of Risks of a Pandemic (Published 2020)

A memo from Peter Navarro is the most direct warning known to have circulated at a key moment among top administration officials.

www.nytimes.com

I wonder if Navarro himself leaked the memo. It makes him look pretty damn good while it makes Trump look asleep at the wheel, doing nothing to guard the country against this deadly virus despite warnings.

The President shut down entry from China on January 31st and Democrats called him a racist.

The President shut down entry from China on January 31st and Democrats called him a racist.

Brilliant!
Yet we ended up with the most infections in the world.

Only if you believe the numbers from communist China. Who knows how many hundreds of thousands are dead over there.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

You have the audacity to call someone else uneducated while posting a Facebook link to the Epoch Times? You're not even worth being labeled a joke!

Watch the video. The fact that you don't believe that China has one iota of blame is pure insanity.

No. I'm not going to watch some video from a site KNOWN for their conspiracy theories. You might as well link to the National Enquirer.

Again, if you believe China has zero blame here, you're utterly insane.

Humans are to blame for encroaching upon territory inhabited by animals. You'r "blame China" rhetoric is stupid and dangerous.

and with each new post you confirm your insanity. The virus was created in China, whether due to eating bats or intentionally in a lab. Then they and WHO lied to the world about it for a couple of months while it spread. China is to blame, and the WHO should be defunded and disbanded.

Just as you are confirming that you will not hold Trump accountable for anything. January 22nd Trump in Davos. Likely to be a defining day in his Presidency. If he comes home, takes the virus threat seriously, and knows his way around government enough to put response efforts into motion, maybe we don't have to shut the entire country down. But you just can't bring yourself to lay any blame at his feet. I've never seen this level of devotion to a public figure in my lifetime. It's almost religious.

On january 22 China and WHO were still lying about the virus. Our own medical "experts" believed those lies and Trump followed the advice of the "experts". That is what you are screaming that he needs to do now, but when he did it then you didn't complain or find any fault. None of the dems at that time were pushing for action on the virus, NOT ONE of them. They were all tied up with their failed fake impeachment fiasco, led by pencil neck and toad boy.

but if we are going to criticize past actions or inactions, why didn't obama do something to prepare the country for such a pandemic? Your kenyan messiah added 9 trillion to our debt, what did we get for that money? Oh, and he sent pallets of cash to terrorists in Iran, what did that buy us?

you are a hypocritical asshole.

Pivot to China..check. Pivot to WHO..check. Pivot to impeachment (which Trump did not participate in)..check. Pivot to Obama..check. Hold Trump accountable for nothing..check. And still, no real action from Trump and his "administration" until March 13th.
Yep, you..are a Trump apologist.

 

[Seawytch]

but if we are going to criticize past actions or inactions, why didn't obama do something to prepare the country for such a pandemic? Your kenyan messiah added 9 trillion to our debt, what did we get for that money? Oh, and he sent pallets of cash to terrorists in Iran, what did that buy us?

You mean this Obama that tried to warn us about a pandemic back in 2014?



And what we got for his stimulus was to get us out of a recession. (We also got some new roads and bridges)

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Jan. 30: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.” — Trump in a speech in Michigan.

Feb. 10: “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases — 11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now.” — Trump at the White House. (See our item “Will the New Coronavirus ‘Go Away’ in April?“)

Feb. 14: “There’s a theory that, in April, when it gets warm — historically, that has been able to kill the virus. So we don’t know yet; we’re not sure yet. But that’s around the corner.” — Trump in speaking to National Border Patrol Council members.

Feb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.” — Trump in speaking to reporters.

Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” — Trump in a tweet.

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You can loop in all of Trump's pep rallies starting at the end of January to the beginning of March here too.
Makes his inaction look even worse.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.

We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.

what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response.

So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you.

I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.

Link to Biden saying that the Travel Ban from China was racist and xenophobic. I'm going to clue you in...you won't find it because he didn't say anything about the travel ban being racist or xenophobic. Once again Trump has made you look even more the fool than you are all by your lonesome.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020. Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one a…

www.statesman.com

This is rich coming from someone who doesn’t blame China. Your logic was so flawed I laughed out loud at your expense.

Do you understand what any of those words mean? How does my pointing out that Biden did not call Trump racist or xenophobic because of his travel ban to China, but for his actual history of racism and xenophobia equate to "rich coming from someone who doesn't blame China"? What does one have to do with the other? Please, explain your "laugh out loud logic".

Nope. Until you admit that China is 100% at fault and gave me this virus, we have nothing to discuss.

Well that's transparent as glass. You can't actually explain yourself so you give me a ridiculous ultimatum? Thanks for confirming that you don't understand.

You have to kidding. If you cannot even agree with me that China is to blame how can we have a logical conversation. I have Been transparent with you on every topic. You’re just irrational. When you stop acting like a child feel free to ping me.

Because "China" isn't to blame. It's a virus. It is as natural as hurricanes. And there will be another supervirus that kills a bunch of people. When it originates here, do you want the United States to be "blamed" for a naturally occuring event?

You're still trying to dodge your incoherant rant from a few posts ago. Here, I'll sum it up:

I aksed Fishy to back up his bullshit that Biden called Trump a racist xenophobe because of his travel ban to china. You came back with a non sensical non sequiture about how my position is illogical because I don't "blame" China for the COVID 19 virus. I asked you to explain how that was illogical and you refused unless I supported your position that China was to blame. Really ironic that you then call me a child.

Nope. Wrong again. And China lied about it.
It is not nearly the same as a tornado.

You are uneducated on the matter. Educate yourself

You have the audacity to call someone else uneducated while posting a Facebook link to the Epoch Times? You're not even worth being labeled a joke!

Watch the video. The fact that you don't believe that China has one iota of blame is pure insanity.

No. I'm not going to watch some video from a site KNOWN for their conspiracy theories. You might as well link to the National Enquirer.

Again, if you believe China has zero blame here, you're utterly insane.

Humans are to blame for encroaching upon territory inhabited by animals. You'r "blame China" rhetoric is stupid and dangerous.

and with each new post you confirm your insanity. The virus was created in China, whether due to eating bats or intentionally in a lab. Then they and WHO lied to the world about it for a couple of months while it spread. China is to blame, and the WHO should be defunded and disbanded.

Just as you are confirming that you will not hold Trump accountable for anything. January 22nd Trump in Davos. Likely to be a defining day in his Presidency. If he comes home, takes the virus threat seriously, and knows his way around government enough to put response efforts into motion, maybe we don't have to shut the entire country down. But you just can't bring yourself to lay any blame at his feet. I've never seen this level of devotion to a public figure in my lifetime. It's almost religious.

On january 22 China and WHO were still lying about the virus. Our own medical "experts" believed those lies and Trump followed the advice of the "experts". That is what you are screaming that he needs to do now, but when he did it then you didn't complain or find any fault. None of the dems at that time were pushing for action on the virus, NOT ONE of them. They were all tied up with their failed fake impeachment fiasco, led by pencil neck and toad boy.

but if we are going to criticize past actions or inactions, why didn't obama do something to prepare the country for such a pandemic? Your kenyan messiah added 9 trillion to our debt, what did we get for that money? Oh, and he sent pallets of cash to terrorists in Iran, what did that buy us?

you are a hypocritical asshole.

FOLLOW THE SCIENCE.

And remember this;

 

[Uncensored2008]

Pivot to China..check. Pivot to WHO..check. Pivot to impeachment (which Trump did not participate in)..check. Pivot to Obama..check. Hold Trump accountable for nothing..check. And still, no real action from Trump and his "administration" until March 13th.
Yep, you..are a Trump apologist.

Pivot to

DEMOCRATS (who are the bitch of China)



You Communist Chinese democrats are such fucking hypocrites.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Jan. 30: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.” — Trump in a speech in Michigan.

Feb. 10: “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases — 11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now.” — Trump at the White House. (See our item “Will the New Coronavirus ‘Go Away’ in April?“)

Feb. 14: “There’s a theory that, in April, when it gets warm — historically, that has been able to kill the virus. So we don’t know yet; we’re not sure yet. But that’s around the corner.” — Trump in speaking to National Border Patrol Council members.

Feb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.” — Trump in speaking to reporters.

Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” — Trump in a tweet.

View attachment 322075

You can loop in all of Trump's pep rallies starting at the end of January to the beginning of March here too.
Makes his inaction look even worse.

Hey ChiCom troll;

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Jan. 30: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.” — Trump in a speech in Michigan.

Feb. 10: “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases — 11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now.” — Trump at the White House. (See our item “Will the New Coronavirus ‘Go Away’ in April?“)

Feb. 14: “There’s a theory that, in April, when it gets warm — historically, that has been able to kill the virus. So we don’t know yet; we’re not sure yet. But that’s around the corner.” — Trump in speaking to National Border Patrol Council members.

Feb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.” — Trump in speaking to reporters.

Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” — Trump in a tweet.

View attachment 322075

You can loop in all of Trump's pep rallies starting at the end of January to the beginning of March here too.
Makes his inaction look even worse.

Hey ChiCom troll;

Already gave you Trump boot lickers this.
Doesn't change the fact that the guy at the top didn't act.