Healthcare System is Rotten

[dblack]

That is not what they are measuring. They are measuring how effective the healthcare is and what level of access the general population have to said healthcare.

Access. Favorite socialist buzzword these days. Again, not interested.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Access. Favorite socialist buzzword these days. Again, not interested.

Yes, when it comes to something like healthcare is it sort of important.

What good is a hospital close by if you cannot afford to go there in an emergency? What is the point of having 100 doctors close by if you cannot afford any of them?

 

[skye]

It is rotten.

 

[braalian]

Just ask people who go to the "emergency room" and find out that they have to wait in the waiting room for hours before their "emergency" can be attended to.

Just ask those patients whose doctors have decided to become concierge doctors. That is, patients who want to continue to see him/her will have to pay as much as $10,000 a year to become a "member." Granted, if you do so, you will be treated like a VIP.

Maybe they had to wait because their “emergency” was just that, an emergency in quotation marks.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Myself and most of the men in my family have been the recipients of Government ran healthcare courtesy of the Veteran Administration. Long waits for appointments, misdiagnoses, over prescribing of drugs, under prescribing and so on and so on. This has been going on since the VA started.

The Fed can't provide decent service for the 10 million veterans who use the VA how the fuck do the loons expect the Government to provide healthcare for 300 million or more people.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Myself and most of the men in my family have been the recipients of Government ran healthcare courtesy of the Veteran Administration. Long waits for appointments, misdiagnoses, over prescribing of drugs, under prescribing and so on and so on. This has been going on since the VA started.

The Fed can't provide decent service for the 10 million veterans who use the VA how the fuck do the loons expect the Government to provide healthcare for 300 million or more people.

I use the VA, I have not had any issues, though I do not get all my healthcare via them.

The VA, like most things in life, is hit and miss. There are some great VA medical centers and some shitty ones. Much of that rest on the people running them.

 

[Greenbeard]

That is a bit over simplistic, but it makes a nice sound bite.

Faux libertarianism in a nutshell.

 

[dblack]

Faux libertarianism in a nutshell.

Better than genuine authoritarianism.

In a nutshell.

 

[Greenbeard]

Better than genuine authoritarianism.

In a nutshell.

Grow up. That “just beg for money online” shit you were pushing when Ron Paul’s campaign manager got sick and died was genuinely disgusting.

 

[dblack]

Grow up.

Go fuck yourself. Growing up doesn't mean sucking statist cock, as much as you may enjoy it.

 

[Greenbeard]

Go fuck yourself. Growing up doesn't mean sucking statist cock, as much as you may enjoy it.

Get a job.

 

[dblack]

Get a job.

I've got one. But out of curiosity, how much do you make shilling for health insurance companies?

 

[SweetSue92]

From a Canadian's POV, give the private health care system more time to work on improving it by bringing down the cost!

Oh wait....you mean the absolute Perfect Utopian Free Universal Health Care isn't the wonderful dream Americans have been told it is for...ever?

Really?

 

[SweetSue92]

The US healthcare system is actually ranked along side third world countries -

Is the U.S. Like a Third World Nation?

Choosing between groceries and medicine.

www.psychologytoday.com

Tell us how great the NHS is doing

 

[candycorn]

First things first. The American physicians, nurses, allied health technicians, all the way down to the acute/emergency care fiend providers are the best trained in the world...by far. Its not even close.

The healthcare system in the US is faulty because healthcare is not congruent with capitalism. Often those who need the most expensive care are the ones who can least afford it. Chronic endemic health issues go unaddressed because there is not enough of a profit motive to jump-start the finding of cures or disease mediation.

That is just the simple truth written from the chair of someone who works in hospital management.

I disagree with the headline of the link in the thread. There are certainly isolated shortcomings. Please show us a system without shortcomings.

 

[dblack]

The healthcare system in the US is faulty because healthcare is not congruent with capitalism.

So you want government to seize control? No.

 

[boevans]

I have found the VA health care to be quite good

Now that it compensates private vendors to provide service, it has only improved.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Tell us how great the NHS is doing

Extremely well. Well above America's system.

 

[2aguy]

Extremely well. Well above America's system.

Yeah.....not so much....

In the Telegraph, Allison Pearson writes: “The NHS is killing us – it is an enemy of Britain.” Her piece begins with a horror story related by one woman who sought emergency care for a burn. The woman who endured the horror is quoted: “I just thought, ‘My God, what kind of country have we become?’”

[P]eople who were once true believers in the “national religion” are acquiring valuable immunity to the myth of the NHS’s saintliness. The blinkers are falling from our eyes. In the words of one despairing doctor: “The NHS is run by managers for the benefit of managers. Patients don’t count.”
… The NHS is the enemy of the British people, not our friend. That is a very hard thing to accept, I know, because it goes against everything we have been taught. They have even trained us to use the familiar “our NHS” to make a monstrous socialist bureaucracy that swallows £160 billion of taxpayers’ money every year sound like a lovable old member of the family, somebody you can always rely on. But you can’t. It’s worse than you can possibly imagine.
The NHS is now in such a state of collapse, so chronically kaput, that it is actually killing people. Men, women and children who should be alive today are dead because they were born British. Lost forever to their loved ones because Britain has a health service with some of the worst outcomes in the developed world.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/04/the-nhs-is-killing-us.php

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yeah.....not so much....

In the Telegraph, Allison Pearson writes: “The NHS is killing us – it is an enemy of Britain.” Her piece begins with a horror story related by one woman who sought emergency care for a burn. The woman who endured the horror is quoted: “I just thought, ‘My God, what kind of country have we become?’”

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/04/the-nhs-is-killing-us.php

Do you think you could find a few stories like that of people talking about healthcare here?

Maybe the 17% of of adults with health care debt that had to declare bankruptcy or lose their home because of it? do you think they might have some bad stories to tell?

Did you know that 66.5% of bankruptcies are caused directly by medical expenses, making it the leading cause for bankruptcy?