Health Care as a Human Right

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  1. midcan5
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    I was just arguing this exact point in the other thread.


    "We Are Not Free - Health Care as a Human Right"
    By Helen Redmond

    "At the core of the idea that health care is a human right is freedom. The for-profit health care system in the United States severely restricts our freedom in a number of subtle and not so subtle ways. Instead of freedom there is fear.

    The health care crisis impacts every aspect of our lives down to the most seemingly insignificant personal decisions we make. This national bully terrorizes and forces us to live in fear. It determines what is possible and not possible, it crushes hopes and dreams and imprisons people into lives they did not choose. For decades in this country we have accepted the barbaric consequences of a profit driven health care system that bullies and denies us basic freedoms. Therefore, we are not free."

    http://www.counterpunch.org/redmond02212008.html
     
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    Health Care is not a human right.. :eusa_wall:
     
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    http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

    Article 25.
    (1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.



    This doesn't explicitely state that health care is a right, but it also does not state that we must be subject to economic servitude to healthcare.

    I am not so sure that healthcare should be free for all citizens. I would be happy if it were just affordable.
     
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    Hey bozo, we live under United States law - not UN "law".
     
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    Why not?
     
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    Who do you think wrote that law?
     
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    So, do you believe that it is good for private industry to fleece working class people for necessary medical care & drugs?
     
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    How are they fleecing the people? If anyone is at fault for the rising healthcare costs its the lawyers..
     
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    No, the rising cost of healthcare is due to two factors. Corporate Greed and Pharmaceutical Companies.

    I worked for Blue Cross Blue Shield for three years. Each year the premiums and costs went up. Each year more was taken out of our checks to pay for the Blue Cross Insurance. Each year, the CEOs gave themselves substantial bonuses. This is a greed factor.

    Pharmaceutical Companies have not been developing new drugs to cover the patents that are expiring. So they are charging more.

    Deregulation on price controls have made it easier for companies to charge whatever they want and there is nothing that consumers can do. The deregulation was put into place so that companies can competitively price...and the prices were projected to drop. But the prices have skyrocketed because there is no oversight. And consumers have only two options, buy it or not.

    Unless you live in MA where it is against the law to not purchase health insurance. Thank God Romney is no longer a presidential candidate.

    Malpractice lawsuits do not drive the cost of insurance up. That is a myth. If we take away the right to sue for malpractice, the consumer will be at the mercy of doctors who are incompetent or fraudulent.
     
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    A bunch of do-gooders who originally meant well who wished to investigate gross human rights violations around the world - but who now have been taken over by a bunch of not-so-do-gooders who are anti-American one world order socialists who wish to expand their control.

    If you think that lack of socialized medicine is a gross human rights violation you have been brainwashed.

    The fleecing is a result of the interference of many - lawyers, government regulations, insurance companies, immigration practices, employers, and other third parties that exist in our health care system. We need to get the bloodsuckers out of the system and allow a free market system to flourish. Costs will plummet when individuals directly pay for and control their own health care.

    We can head in that direction with the use of HSAs and catastrophic insurance.
     

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