dilloduck
Diamond Member
Fire away please------what do you have me "pegged as and what sect do you belong to?
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Originally posted by NewGuy
Come on. If you want me to purse this, the public will be aware.
Originally posted by supermarine
When u said that the bible told you to love your neibour.(however u spell that damn word), thats the new testament. NOT the old testiment. The new testement does not excuse the jews from what their scriptures say because they do not beleive in the old testament.
i dont hate jews, they dont follow the darn book exactly. The old testament did say that the jews were the chosen people and that they should stop nonbelievers. They slaughtered whole citys. The old testament discribes that! Im not saying that we should hate jews or their religion, but if we are to critisize islam because of what their scriptures say, wouldn't we be kinda hippicritical not to include the jews? (sry about spelling).
Originally posted by dilloduck
Why do you refuse to believe? Have you ever considerered this to be a from of denial. It is an unfortunate reality that the party in power must fight two wars. One against the terrorists and the other against the liberals and their lying media allies. If the American enemy could come up with a realistic way to end the terrorism instead of merely criticizing we would be providing the world with a powerful unified front. That would be important in gaining the support in other countries
Originally posted by NewGuy
The refusal to believe is quite clear: You are talking to a muslim who believes in following the koran. Lying is all part of the program if it achieves higher goals. Lying has ensued, as I have shown, and now a denial of reality is showing the inconsistencies once again.
Originally posted by Myvoicecounts
If people follow a religion and if it leads them to their own demise, then it is a moral and just thing to stop them. However, if a religion exists and people follow it and not to their demise but according to their own personal comfort, then it is immoral to force those people into making their religion into the cause of their death.
What religion is mine? I have abandoned all religions and have surrendered to the supreme, I have only one religion. :
: Thanks for your welcome. Arab kings and dictators can step down and that is possible by the "dissent of the governed" toward the rulers and ofcourse to have that, people themselves should want to change and majority will want to change the system if they are given enough support.
Any Arab leader who is taken out of power now will contribute to a safer future of America.
Also, after centuries of hate, I think it is impossible for the two sides to hate each other and not act on it, I think the only way to end this would be to come together as human beings, which is possible... because there are people who want peace on both sides, just like there are people who want war and destruction on both sides.
Originally posted by sumayya
hi Myvoicecounts, nice to meet you,
im an arab/american muslim who entered recently, i entered as a member in which i can fix what others thought of us and still they believe we are terrorists. i tried to tell them that you had understood islam in a wrong way, they quoted from Quran true, but they haven't read why,how,when this peice of verse came. they go right and left and at the end they ended up with me as a liar and a terorist trying to perish everything! i stopped for a while because i was busy, but everyday i pass by this forum and read. i hope that you can help to give the true image of islam, and that is the forum for,
Originally posted by Sir Evil
What exactly are you trying to point out with you post here?
your voice doe's not count if you are not making a point!
Originally posted by Sir Evil
Brilliant! - you have totally avoided my question earlier in this post! I have no clue about what you and NewGuy were posting about!
take a peek at my last question that you avoided.
Now I see that you are a muslim. So are you just a Bush basher, or do you really by into the dream of waking up to world peace and the perfect world?
Originally posted by Myvoicecounts
I am not a muslim. If you are so attached to the idea that you have to put me into a category, I go into a category of "Hindu", "recent bush actions" basher.
Peace is not an option but mandatory and it can be a reality and a solution to all the problems, however if people are so obsessed with trying to not cooperate with each other then I guess it will only remain as a dream. Mr. Bush does not cooperate with the world, he thought he can attack Iraq and capture Saddam and that will get him votes. He is the liar, he lied to the American public and he has lied to the world. If he really wants to end terrorism, he would have chosen a better way to do so, thats the point. End of discussion, thank you.
Yes, he most certainly did! so tell me how the world has become a less secure place now right?
Originally posted by Myvoicecounts
Do you really think Iraqis will heartily thank us for all the abuse they went through after the war? Also, do you really think that all the arab people around the region are going to feel secure after Iraq has been brutally attacked like that? I think not.
What my intentions are here are not the issue, I am only trying to give you my view which ofcourse I think is right. The issue here is what Bush is doing to the future of America.
BTW, thanks alot for all the comments you are just too friendly to a muslim conspirator like me.
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Originally posted by Myvoicecounts
Do you really think Iraqis will heartily thank us for all the abuse they went through after the war? Also, do you really think that all the arab people around the region are going to feel secure after Iraq has been brutally attacked like that? I think not.
What my intentions are here are not the issue, I am only trying to give you my view which ofcourse I think is right. The issue here is what Bush is doing to the future of America.
Originally posted by Myvoicecounts
Do you really think Iraqis will heartily thank us for all the abuse they went through after the war? Also, do you really think that all the arab people around the region are going to feel secure after Iraq has been brutally attacked like that? I think not.
What my intentions are here are not the issue, I am only trying to give you my view which ofcourse I think is right. The issue here is what Bush is doing to the future of America.
The Iraqis that were abused for no reason, no. I don't expect them to thank us. But there are many more that were helped and are being helped by America that will be more than grateful to us.
But of course, you will not want to hear their voices. Just as you won't hear them now. They are out there and some media does report on them but most don't. I correspond with several soldiers over there and they tell me that just about everyday they are thanked by Iraqis for what we are doing for their nation.
Americans want everything to happen in 30 seconds or it isn't good enough.
Even the title of your thread is flawed - "Hate the system not the religion". The fact is that in the middle east, islam is a theocracy. So the "system" and the "religion" are one and the same - inseparable. It is islamic clerics who exhort the ignorant masses to violence. It is islamic clerics who denounce intercession by non-islamics, no matter how well intentioned it may be. These clerics denounce us not because of what we have done, but simply because of who we are. Islamic clerics fear us because we threaten the power and privelige they enjoy. They know that if they allow so much as a single seed of democracy to sprout in the middle east their days will be numbered.
As far as Bush, he is atleast taking a stand and trying to do something against terrorism, instead of those who want to ignore the issue and hope it just goes away.
You can't provide for a better america if you can't protect those in it. 9/11 was a turning point for the American people and he is trying to make sure that it doesn't happen again with what resources he has available.
Take your head out of your ass and look around at what is going on around you. Just saying you want peace isn't going to make it happen!
To be honest, I really dont worry too much how secure the arab world feels, I feel all warm inside knowing that heathen Sadaam is no longer in power! Sadaam was more brutal with his attacks on his own people! But perhaps in the future we can just lob mudpies at the enemy so the masses dont feel that we are being too brutal in what is known as war!
Your intention here were originally protecting the Muslin beliefs (see your title of post) and spreading world peace not war!
And like I have said many times already that would be too nice if only it was possible, and not a pipe dream! Now you say your answer is what Bush is doing to the future of America! well dammit, why not title your thread that? Why, because once again you are being a hypocrite, trying to spread the word of peace when making your own personal attacks on Bush! Well what's it going to be?
In either case, it is not fair to hate the religion , if their religion truly advocates killing of everyone and if they follow that, then 'they'- including the American muslims should be at war with us right now. but they are not, and the ones who are against us are the few handful terrorists who are supported by the arab leaders.
Originally posted by Myvoicecounts
I am getting the feeling that this forum is made to voice hate messages, if that is not the case, then I am very happy, but I think there is not much of a difference between voicing hate messages and having a conservative look on things. Good night!