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you're partisan, you said so, this poll and the answers are partisan.....
lol...another self pwn......you admit your answer is nothing but partisan
you're killing to me tonight frodo
I'm looking at it from the perspective that all of our answers are "partisan" because we all came into this thread with our minds already made up about this issue. Nobody's mind has been changed in this thread. I could throw up page after page of evidence, but you'd just scoff and troll at it more.
I'm not going to waste my time with your childish antics Yurt. I have the facts, you have your emotions, and that's about it.
Regardless of any short term "benefits" that the "stimulus" may produce, it represents a significant negative to the long term economic health of the nation. You can't keep spending money you don't have to keep attempting to "fix" an economy that is continually degraded by such bone headed central planning as exemplified by the so called "stimulus".
The economy needs politicians to leave it alone so it can heal itself, not continue jumping up and down on it's chest.
Depends upon how you mean "worked".
Stimulated the economy....No.
Paid off a bunch of Democrat Party loyalist butt boys?....Yes.
Dude, I know your DNA is hardwired to hate me BUT...
Stimulus aside: Do you believe the economy has not improved in the last year?
Do you call 9.7% unemployment in this country "improving?"--- & Expected to be higher than 9% for the entire 2010 year GOOD?
The condition the economy was in a year ago would not have been corrected by markets. Something had to be done, everyone agreed upon that. It was on the verge of collapse. That's not an exaggeration. We had no choice but to get our government behind the recovery effort.
Whether or not the act that ultimately passed was a good one is subjective. There were other options on the table, many economists recommended a much larger measure, but just about nobody recommended doing nothing (see also, Hooverville).
Had nothing been done, there would have been bank runs, free-falling housing prices, pullout of foreign investment and perpetual mass hysteria. How quickly we forget just how bad things were at that time. As McCain said, "We have to stop the bleeding."
Moving forward, looking backward, and the individual merits of the Act are debatable. Doing nothing would have been catastrophic.
Dude, I know your DNA is hardwired to hate me BUT...
Stimulus aside: Do you believe the economy has not improved in the last year?
Do you call 9.7% unemployment in this country "improving?"--- & Expected to be higher than 9% for the entire 2010 year GOOD?
Are you serious right now? Have you forgotten what our prognosis was a year ago?
Recessions are a part of the business cycle. Unemployment is always the last leg of the cycle. It's the last to go down, it's the last to go back up. This is because employers like their current workforce; They are generally reluctant to lay off, holding out for improvement, and reluctant to re-hire upon expansion, holding out for evidence that the growth is sustainable. That's not an opinion, friend, that's what happens.
Funny how the foxtrotters ignore every positive sign and hone in on the one thing that's lagging behind.
It's really too early to tell. Anybody with half a brain knows the economy takes time to recover. Will it work? I don't know
It's really too early to tell. Anybody with half a brain knows the economy takes time to recover. Will it work? I don't know
Anyone with half a brain knows that when a program needed to be passed immediately to prevent unemployment from rising above 8% and unemployment is now about 10%, then clearly the program didn't work.
The economy will not recover until the government stops interfering with the private sector, stops it's massive debt spending, and stops punishing success.
It's really too early to tell. Anybody with half a brain knows the economy takes time to recover. Will it work? I don't know
Anyone with half a brain knows that when a program needed to be passed immediately to prevent unemployment from rising above 8% and unemployment is now about 10%, then clearly the program didn't work.
The economy will not recover until the government stops interfering with the private sector,
stops it's massive debt spending,
and
stops punishing success.
It's really too early to tell. Anybody with half a brain knows the economy takes time to recover. Will it work? I don't know
Anyone with half a brain knows that when a program needed to be passed immediately to prevent unemployment from rising above 8% and unemployment is now about 10%, then clearly the program didn't work.
The economy will not recover until the government stops interfering with the private sector,
stops it's massive debt spending,
and
stops punishing success.
Its like you closed your eyes and pulled three talking points out of some Beckoid grab bag.
Are you capable of original thought?
It's really too early to tell. Anybody with half a brain knows the economy takes time to recover. Will it work? I don't know
Anyone with half a brain knows that when a program needed to be passed immediately to prevent unemployment from rising above 8% and unemployment is now about 10%, then clearly the program didn't work.
The economy will not recover until the government stops interfering with the private sector, stops it's massive debt spending, and stops punishing success.
Yeah, the fantasy approach to the economy, that works really well
Regardless of any short term "benefits" that the "stimulus" may produce, it represents a significant negative to the long term economic health of the nation. You can't keep spending money you don't have to keep attempting to "fix" an economy that is continually degraded by such bone headed central planning as exemplified by the so called "stimulus".
The economy needs politicians to leave it alone so it can heal itself, not continue jumping up and down on it's chest.
The condition the economy was in a year ago would not have been corrected by markets. Something had to be done, everyone agreed upon that. It was on the verge of collapse. That's not an exaggeration. We had no choice but to get our government behind the recovery effort.
Whether or not the act that ultimately passed was a good one is subjective. There were other options on the table, many economists recommended a much larger measure, but just about nobody recommended doing nothing (see also, Hooverville).
Had nothing been done, there would have been bank runs, free-falling housing prices, pullout of foreign investment and perpetual mass hysteria. How quickly we forget just how bad things were at that time. As McCain said, "We have to stop the bleeding."
Moving forward, looking backward, and the individual merits of the Act are debatable. Doing nothing would have been catastrophic.
Anyone with half a brain knows that when a program needed to be passed immediately to prevent unemployment from rising above 8% and unemployment is now about 10%, then clearly the program didn't work.
The economy will not recover until the government stops interfering with the private sector,
stops it's massive debt spending,
and
stops punishing success.
Its like you closed your eyes and pulled three talking points out of some Beckoid grab bag.
Are you capable of original thought?
We have hundreds of years of economic principles that have worked every time they are tried and you think we need original thoughts?
Why should I be original when we've figured it out hundreds of years ago? Why do we need a new way of thinking that ignores natural law? Your argument makes no sense.
It's really too early to tell. Anybody with half a brain knows the economy takes time to recover. Will it work? I don't know
Anyone with half a brain knows that when a program needed to be passed immediately to prevent unemployment from rising above 8% and unemployment is now about 10%, then clearly the program didn't work.
The economy will not recover until the government stops interfering with the private sector, stops it's massive debt spending, and stops punishing success.
It's really too early to tell. Anybody with half a brain knows the economy takes time to recover. Will it work? I don't know
Anyone with half a brain knows that when a program needed to be passed immediately to prevent unemployment from rising above 8% and unemployment is now about 10%, then clearly the program didn't work.
The economy will not recover until the government stops interfering with the private sector, stops it's massive debt spending, and stops punishing success.
Three consecutive posts, three times pointing out that unemployment has gone higher than expected, three times ignoring utterly that every other measurable aspect of the economy has improved.
Frequently, partisan commentators and even some economists exclaim that the stimulus has failed because the unemployment rate now exceeds the peak shown in projections prepared before ARRA was implemented. This argument, which clearly and perhaps intentionally confuses the pre-stimulus baseline with the incremental effects of the stimulus, would be laughable if it was not taken so seriously in some quarters. For the record, last spring, as the financial crisis that engulfed the economy worsened unexpectedly but before the stimulus could possibly have had any real effect on the economy the unemployment rate already had moved above the Administrations (and many others) last pre-stimulus projection. So, this is simple: the baseline forecasts were optimistic, but unemployment would be even higher now without the benefit of the stimulus package.
Macroadvisers: MA on fiscal stimulus, the definitive answer: it works. MA refutes the demagoguery.
ONLY AN IDIOTIC DUMOCRAP PARTISAN HACK WOULD CLAIM THE STIMULUS SAVED OR CREATED JOBS. IT IS CLEAR WHO THE OBAMA ASS KISSERS ARE ON THIS BOARD.
WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE JOBS!!!