Hammer & Scorecard- Whistleblower details efforts of Dems & allies to steal the election

[flacaltenn]

Nice theory -- but busting into 2500 different precincts in the USA to download trojan ANYTHING into 10s of 1000s of machines -- not normally connected to the WWWeb -- is conspiracy stuff...

Who said anything about busting into anything?...The software had to be supplied by someone.....It's not any problem whatsoever to program the "glitch" into it.

Can't be operating all the time.. It's not in the MACHINES -- it's in the "memory cards" that carry from the voting kiosks to the tabulator..

Those are prepared and VALIDATED and locked away until election day.. So they would have to have the cooperation of MANY people -- INCLUDING the manufacturer to carry it out.

Who said anything about them operating al the time?...The sotware isn't the machine.....You know the difference....The memory cards can be programmed with anything.

Every update or "election set-up" has a VALIDATION procedure.. Which tests the cards AND the machines.. Maybe the tests are not comprehensive enough.. It's WORTH exploring !! But I think, under scrutiny what might be POSSIBLE -- is not actually gonna be found...

Almost anything can be stashed in the source code...While above my pay grade, it's not brain surgery.....The validators and testers are only following the procedures that they're told.

This is CIA level shit here...They're not going to leave the game to chance or needing to "bust into" individual precincts.

Your Federal Govt APPROVED the source code and the machines. Doesn't that COUNT for anything?

To do "real time" vote adjusting -- these "tabulators" in every precinct would need to have access to REAL TIME "state wide" vote totals. Or access to the Internet. There's not a precinct in this COUNTRY that would allow ANY voting equipment access to communications during an election..

WHO approved the source code?...Yeah, thought so.

Nobody said anything about real time adjusting (why do you keep building these strawmen?)...In fact, the lack of it is one of the factors that got this scam busted in Michigan to begin with.

If there's no way for the algorithm to know HOW MANY votes need to be flipped -- how do you suspect this little malignant chunk of code knows WHEN TO STOP??? Or when to adjust it's "ratios"?

There are simpler explanations.. Like STOPPING the vote count in your BIGGEST CITY -- waiting for the REST of the state to be fully tallied -- withholding your count --- and PEOPLE figure out how many votes they need to manufacture or flip... FAR more easy and safe.. Especially when you take extraordinary measures to toss the poll watchers out of the rooms...

 

[BlackSand]

Nice theory -- but busting into 2500 different precincts in the USA to download trojan ANYTHING into 10s of 1000s of machines -- not normally connected to the WWWeb -- is conspiracy stuff...

Except for the fact that the software, devices, and components came from the same source and what you suggested wouldn't be necessary.
Oh look, Representative Pelosi's ex chief of staff is the main lobbyist for the company that makes the machines, and the company has ties to the Clintons.

You don't have to break in if you are in charge of the place and have the key.

Thanks for offering us a wonderfully elaborate alternative in hopes of convincing us nothing could possibly be wrong though ...

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[BlackSand]

If there's no way for the algorithm to know HOW MANY votes need to be flipped -- how do you suspect this little malignant chunk of code knows WHEN TO STOP??? Or when to adjust it's "ratios"?

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that might just be how you end up with 90% voter turnout in some cases.
You really don't have to know when to stop, if you just overload the count without trying to be too greedy ...

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[flacaltenn]

Except for the fact that the software, devices, and components came from the same source and what you suggested wouldn't be necessary.
Oh look, Representative Pelosi's ex chief of staff is the main lobbyist for the company that makes the machines, and the company has ties to the Clintons.

You don't have to break in if you are in charge of the place and have the key.

Voting machine companies have ONE CUSTOMER.. And that customer is GOVERNMENT.. SO -- it's not odd at all that their total marketing and sales regime is to hire "ex -govt" or have "ex-govt" on their boards.. It's a hairy ass business ripe for graft and corruption..

Philly IIRC , bought new systems in 2015 or so from ES&S -- NOT Dominion.. So there's goes that theory unless MULTIPLE companies are in on "vote stealing machines".. And the kicker was -- BECAUSE it's such a weird business, once the contract was SIGNED -- Philly "clawed back" $4.1 in FINES for "over-lobbying" the city commisioners and election officials !!! I posted the Bloomberg article on this SOMEWHERE on Saturday..

So there's LOTS of problems here. And I'm not a fan of govt getting involved with industries.. BUT -- CONSTITUTIONALLY -- assuring elections is one PRINCIPLE job of govt and they SUCK at this one..

All those companies get "certifications" on their equipment from the Feds. You can SEE the "seal of approval" on Dominion's website.. BUT -- to my knowledge, once they CERTIFY the machines, there's no "quality control" or checks on new software or firmware upgrades or even "validation procedures.. And POSSIBLY -- we never USED the 10s of thousands of data security system analysts that we pay for at DOD, NSA, FBI, Homeland Security to DO the initial certification. It WORTHLESS to have a certification under those circumstances..

This NEEDS to be fixed... Govt is doing a shitty job of virtually EVERY PRINCIPLE Constitutional duty that we've given them.. Too stupid, inept and slow... Because they prefer to do the sexy things. Like investigating Russia Russia Russia or lame impeachments or arguing over power...

 

[flacaltenn]

If there's no way for the algorithm to know HOW MANY votes need to be flipped -- how do you suspect this little malignant chunk of code knows WHEN TO STOP??? Or when to adjust it's "ratios"?

...

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that might just be how you end up with 90% voter turnout in some cases.
You really don't have to know when to stop, if you just overload the count without trying to be too greedy ...

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You get caught if you get too greedy.. You end up with totals that don't match registration totals or turnout totals.. AND -- maybe we'll find that. But as of now -- the simpler explanation of pausing the count and having HUMANS figure out how votes they need is the easier -- less trackable way.. Doesn't require "black ops" warfare machines or cooperation from voting machine manufacturers..

 

[BlackSand]

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Voting machine companies have ONE CUSTOMER.. And that customer is GOVERNMENT.. SO -- it's not odd at all that their total marketing and sales regime is to hire "ex -govt" or have "ex-govt" on their boards.. It's a hairy ass business ripe for graft and corruption..

Philly IIRC , bought new systems in 2015 or so from ES&S -- NOT Dominion.. So there's goes that theory unless MULTIPLE companies are in on "vote stealing machines".. And the kicker was -- BECAUSE it's such a weird business, once the contract was SIGNED -- Philly "clawed back" $4.1 in FINES for "over-lobbying" the city commisioners and election officials !!! I posted the Bloomberg article on this SOMEWHERE on Saturday..

So there's LOTS of problems here. And I'm not a fan of govt getting involved with industries.. BUT -- CONSTITUTIONALLY -- assuring elections is one PRINCIPLE job of govt and they SUCK at this one..

All those companies get "certifications" on their equipment from the Feds. You can SEE the "seal of approval" on Dominion's website.. BUT -- to my knowledge, once they CERTIFY the machines, there's no "quality control" or checks on new software or firmware upgrades or even "validation procedures.. And POSSIBLY -- we never USED the 10s of thousands of data security system analysts that we pay for at DOD, NSA, FBI, Homeland Security to DO the initial certification. It WORTHLESS to have a certification under those circumstances..

This NEEDS to be fixed... Govt is doing a shitty job of virtually EVERY PRINCIPLE Constitutional duty that we've given them.. Too stupid, inept and slow... Because they prefer to do the sexy things. Like investigating Russia Russia Russia or lame impeachments or arguing over power...

I understand what you are saying, and spent a few years as an investigator for a Trademarking Agency.

What I learned is that a lot of people cheat and for a plethora of reasons.
I also learned that an abundance of coincidences and suspicious results is never really an indicator that no cheating has occurred.

The only really odd thing I came across, was that the easiest way to end up in a serious product or process audit ...
Was if the corporation's internal records showed no deficiencies that would warrant any concern.

That's because if their own records never indicated something serious happened that had to be addressed, as well as how they managed to fix it ...
Then the record was most likely a lie ... Shit Happens ...

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[RetiredGySgt]

You know, if your taxes are considered on time and are accepted as long as they are postmarked by April 15th, then why in the hell can't the ballots that are postmarked Nov 3rd or before be counted? As long as the postmark says they met the deadline, the ballot should be counted.

In Pennsylvania they threw that out and said any ballot received for 9 days after the election would count. The new rule? If you can not make out the date it was before the deadline. Which means if it is a Democrat vote they just smudge the postmark. In Michigan they had machines converting Trump votes to Biden Votes. In Georgia they had more people vote in democratic strongholds then ever something like 90 percent. Then they found in one county 132000 votes that did not match the addresses of the registered voters. Ya fair and honest indeed.

 

[Oddball]

Nice theory -- but busting into 2500 different precincts in the USA to download trojan ANYTHING into 10s of 1000s of machines -- not normally connected to the WWWeb -- is conspiracy stuff...

Who said anything about busting into anything?...The software had to be supplied by someone.....It's not any problem whatsoever to program the "glitch" into it.

Can't be operating all the time.. It's not in the MACHINES -- it's in the "memory cards" that carry from the voting kiosks to the tabulator..

Those are prepared and VALIDATED and locked away until election day.. So they would have to have the cooperation of MANY people -- INCLUDING the manufacturer to carry it out.

Who said anything about them operating al the time?...The sotware isn't the machine.....You know the difference....The memory cards can be programmed with anything.

Every update or "election set-up" has a VALIDATION procedure.. Which tests the cards AND the machines.. Maybe the tests are not comprehensive enough.. It's WORTH exploring !! But I think, under scrutiny what might be POSSIBLE -- is not actually gonna be found...

Almost anything can be stashed in the source code...While above my pay grade, it's not brain surgery.....The validators and testers are only following the procedures that they're told.

This is CIA level shit here...They're not going to leave the game to chance or needing to "bust into" individual precincts.

Your Federal Govt APPROVED the source code and the machines. Doesn't that COUNT for anything?

To do "real time" vote adjusting -- these "tabulators" in every precinct would need to have access to REAL TIME "state wide" vote totals. Or access to the Internet. There's not a precinct in this COUNTRY that would allow ANY voting equipment access to communications during an election..

WHO approved the source code?...Yeah, thought so.

Nobody said anything about real time adjusting (why do you keep building these strawmen?)...In fact, the lack of it is one of the factors that got this scam busted in Michigan to begin with.

If there's no way for the algorithm to know HOW MANY votes need to be flipped -- how do you suspect this little malignant chunk of code knows WHEN TO STOP??? Or when to adjust it's "ratios"?

There are simpler explanations.. Like STOPPING the vote count in your BIGGEST CITY -- waiting for the REST of the state to be fully tallied -- withholding your count --- and PEOPLE figure out how many votes they need to manufacture or flip... FAR more easy and safe.. Especially when you take extraordinary measures to toss the poll watchers out of the rooms...

Yes, the latter definitely happened....That's how the 1960 election was flipped for Kennedy.

But we've now found the same "glitch" in Wisconsin....There are no coincidences.