DOJ Indictment of Trump will give him the chance to expose the 2020 election fraud

[scruffy]

Oh….so now it’s that he didn't spend sufficient time telling them to be peaceful?

You Dems keep moving the goalposts.

And did Hillary spend 1 second telling her supporters to be peaceful? NO. Instead, as usual, they trashed the city.

Well, you do understand that "protest" is a leftard winky-wink word. Protest means get pissed off and loot and burn and kill people. When Hillary's underlings (like Nancy and Maxine) encourage their minions to protest, what they're really saying is "go ahead and get pissed off, we're not going to stop you".

 

[scruffy]

The cult fucks say Trump cant win a general election, yet they are trying to prevent him from running.

WHICH ONE IS IT?

99% of those dumbfucks don't even realize the contradiction.

 

[scruffy]

Your evidence is the word of One Man.

If he is found guilty of lying about the election will you go with our judicial system or the word of One Man?

lol

He's not on trial for lying about the election.

Nice try though.

 

[Care4all]

So, JackOfNoTrades: which ACTIONS of Trump's ran contrary to which laws? Please be specific and use known Trump behavior and cite the laws, not mere accusations.

I'm not Jack, but all of your questions asked, are answered precisely, in the indictment.

How about you read it, and then come back and fact check your own post and opinion on what you think is going on, vs. what really is going on.

 

[Batcat]

They already have.

I’ve lost count of the number of times that someone said. “Stick a fork in Trump because he is done.” However, Trump is still with us and doing quite well with conservatives according to the polls.

I listen to the liberal news (CNN, MSNBC) and they tell me there is a strong case against Trump. I then tune to Fox News and listen to some legal experts like Alan Dershowitz and Jonathon Turley. They feel that any conviction will be reversed on appeal or at the Supreme Court.

There is no doubt that those who actually run this Big Circus we call the United States do not want Trump in the Oval Office. The question may end up to be how far are they willing to go to prevent his re-election.

Meanwhile the evidence against the Biden Crime Family continues to grow but the DOJ and FBI seem to lack any interest in pursuing it.

Dershowitz Points to Big 'Lie' in Jack Smith's Indictment Against Trump

We're way down that slippery slope with this indictment.

redstate.com

MSN

 

[The Banker]

This is an important point.

Most of the cases in which "Trump lost" were cases in which the judge or judges found a way to punt the case without ruling on the legitimacy of the voting and vote-counting in question. Judges can be just as ambitious as any other politician, and the 2020 election was a hot potato that few wanted to be stuck with. The only exception would be a Democratic judge eager to decide a case and use dramatic verbiage in the ruling to appeal to voters or future appointers/confirmers.

A nearly 70% majority of Republicans do not believe that Joe Biden legitmately got enough votes to win the election in 2020, according to a poll reported by CNN.

As you will see, nearly half of independents disagree with the proposition that Joe Biden legitimately got enough votes to win. Another question asked whether elections in America reflect the will of the people, and less that half strongly agreed or somewhat agreed.

Those results in spite of the constant media repitition of the Big Lie that questioning the election is just a Big Lie by Trump. Those numbers will grow once Team Trump starts presenting its evidence of lack of legitimacy. It is Jack Smith who is giving Trump that opportunity.


That's exactly right, but not for the reason that you think. Whether Trump was thinking 'these bastards stole this election from me and my supporters,' or 'Heh-heh! I'll convince my sheep-like supporters that these bastards stole the election from them,' makes no difference because it could never be proven either way.

So what ACTION of Trump's will they ever be able to prove ran contrary to the law, given that they have no way to show Trump's motivation? It is not a crime to petition to a court for redress of grievance. It's not a crime say words like, "we have to fight," at a political rally. It is not a crime to say, "we should have our own slate of electors from states where cheating was widespread, in case the courts throw out the fraudulent ones, or the VP refuses to count them."

None of those things are crimes, even if it could somehow be subjectively proved that Trump was wrong about all of them (it can't). The first amendment has no caveat that speech has to be "right" to be protected. Last thing the founders would have supported was a system in which government is the arbitor of the truth, and only government-approved "truth" could be spoken or printed.

So, JackOfNoTrades: which ACTIONS of Trump's ran contrary to which laws? Please be specific and use known Trump behavior and cite the laws, not mere accusations.

Its absolutely laughable to somehow suggest that the courts did not look at the evidence or that somehow Trump has magic evidence of fraud, but the courts won't see it. That is a complete and total joke, and would never happen. The courts saw the joke evidence and ruled it was not credible at all, and DOJ and Dept of Homeland Security also said no fraud and no evidence of fraud.
AG bill Barr, a Trump ally, said no evidence of fraud at all.

Here are some Trump appointed judges own words proving no fraud at all:

Trump allies "did not prove under any standard of proof that illegal votes were cast and counted or legal votes were not counted at all, due to voter fraud," Russell wrote. The contestants failed to prove that illegal votes by ineligible or deceased voters were cast and counted, he wrote.

Russell also noted that it reached its ruling "having considered, without limitation, all evidence submitted to the court."

"Charges of unfairness are serious," wrote Judge Stephanos Bibas, who was appointed by Trump. "But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."

A group of conservatives that included former U.S. senators, Republican lawyers and retired federal judges, examined 64 casesbrought by Trump and his supporters and authored a report titled, "Lost, not stolen: The conservative case that Trump lost and Biden won the 2020 presidential election."

Of 64 cases, the group found:

• 20 were dismissed before hearings on the merits,
• 14 were voluntarily dismissed by Trump and his allies before hearings on the merits,
• And 30 cases included hearings on the merits.

Trump lost the election and there was no fraud at all, and there is no credible evidence of fraud at all, some people just can't admit or accept that and fabricate lies to so they don't have to admit Trump lost. This also makes the Jan 6th Trump insurrection a serious crime as Trump incited a riot over total lies.

 

[Dagosa]

AHAHAHAHAHA !!

What are you stupid, Trump had his chance in court and lost because he has no evidence

Trump has no evidence of fraud and its laughable that you think he does !
This is going to end so badly for the brain washed Trumpers.

Their best hope for the gop winning elections is voter suppression, fraud and insurrection. There are no policies in the GOP agenda other than, making it harder for people to vote and harder on women and minorities to live..

 

[Dagosa]

However, Trump is still with us and doing quite well with conservatives according to the polls.

Ha ha.
Trump is doing well at 44%, with republicans who make up 29% of the registered voters. That’s less then 15% of the registered voters. The biggest factor in his 10 million vote loss to Biden was among women. What has the gop/Trump supported Supreme Court done for women since .?
At this point, a dead goldfish will beat Trump severely.

 

[Batcat]

Ha ha.
Trump is doing well at 44%, with republicans who make up 29% of the registered voters. That’s less then 15% of the registered voters. The biggest factor in his 10 million vote loss to Biden was among women. What has the gop/Trump supported Supreme Court done for women since .?
At this point, a dead goldfish will beat Trump severely.

Time will tell, but many states have restrictive abortion laws and there are women voters in those states.

Interactive Map: US Abortion Policies and Access After Roe

The abortion landscape is fragmented and increasingly polarized. Many states have abortion restrictions or bans in place that make it difficult, if not impossible, for people to get care. Other states have taken steps to protect abortion rights and access. To help people understand this complex...

states.guttmacher.org

 

[Rawley]

Ha ha.
Trump is doing well at 44%, with republicans who make up 29% of the registered voters. That’s less then 15% of the registered voters. The biggest factor in his 10 million vote loss to Biden was among women. What has the gop/Trump supported Supreme Court done for women since .?
At this point, a dead goldfish will beat Trump severely.

So the folks in the NYTimes/Siena poll are lying?

 

[Lisa558]

Well, you do understand that "protest" is a leftard winky-wink word. Protest means get pissed off and loot and burn and kill people. When Hillary's underlings (like Nancy and Maxine) encourage their minions to protest, what they're really saying is "go ahead and get pissed off, we're not going to stop you".

Fauci even gave his go-ahead during COVID for the burn, loot, murder crowd to wreak havoc while I wasn’t allowed to go to synagogue.

 

[Lisa558]

Ha ha.
Trump is doing well at 44%, with republicans who make up 29% of the registered voters. That’s less then 15% of the registered voters. The biggest factor in his 10 million vote loss to Biden was among women. What has the gop/Trump supported Supreme Court done for women since .?
At this point, a dead goldfish will beat Trump severely.

He didn’t have a 10 million vote loss. It amounted to a few thousand votes in each of five or six swing states - which miraculously appeared after the Democrats were behind, called a halt to the count, sent Republicans home, and then reopened in the lead.

 

[The Banker]

Their best hope for the gop winning elections is voter suppression, fraud and insurrection. There are no policies in the GOP agenda other than, making it harder for people to vote and harder on women and minorities to live..

Agreed.

The fact that these dumb fucks somehow think there was fraud shows how truly gone they are.

Trump just made it up and has no evidence at all, but they don't want to admit or accept it. Its easier to just cry fraud, even though they look stupid AF.

 

[The Banker]

He didn’t have a 10 million vote loss. It amounted to a few thousand votes in each of five or six swing states - which miraculously appeared after the Democrats were behind, called a halt to the count, sent Republicans home, and then reopened in the lead.

too bad none of that happened.

Trump lost the election and then he lost all court cases and all judges saw the evidence and said no fraud and no evidence of fraud at all.

Trump allies "did not prove under any standard of proof that illegal votes were cast and counted or legal votes were not counted at all, due to voter fraud," Russell wrote. The contestants failed to prove that illegal votes by ineligible or deceased voters were cast and counted, he wrote.

Russell also noted that it reached its ruling "having considered, without limitation, all evidence submitted to the court."

"Charges of unfairness are serious," wrote Judge Stephanos Bibas, who was appointed by Trump. "But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."


Do you really think Trump has this magic evidence that will make him president, but every court in America, even Trump appointed judges are all "in on the steal" or "paid off" ??? That's a laughable pathetic thought and shows how truly brainwashed you are.

The reality is Trump lost and is too weak and pathetic to admit he lost, then he lost all court cases, and all his attorneys are now being censured or charged with knowingly lying to the courts. Then MAGA traitors rioted at the Capitol over lies. Republicans are a total disgrace.

Yes, courts heard ‘evidence’ of alleged 2020 election fraud

Former President Donald Trump lost the presidential election to Joe Biden in November 2020. Unwilling to accept that def

www.politifact.com

 

[Dagosa]

Agreed.

The fact that these dumb fucks somehow think there was fraud shows how truly gone they are.

Trump just made it up and has no evidence at all, but they don't want to admit or accept it. Its easier to just cry fraud, even though they look stupid AF.

Scary thing about it is, the longer time passes, the more convinced they become that Trump really won. The only people humpers listen to are other bat shit crazies.

 

[Dagosa]

He didn’t have a 10 million vote loss. It amounted to a few thousand votes in each of five or six swing states - which miraculously appeared after the Democrats were behind, called a halt to the count, sent Republicans home, and then reopened in the lead.

Prove it. So you’re now admitting that the gop party, Barr the AG and all the fbi appointed officials, along with his appointed judges were fking incompetent. Bush pulled this shit too and like Trump, appointed a panel to investigate voter fraud. Like Trump, found nothing….
Geesus illiterate, the administration and the state parties are responsible for fraud in federal elections. You’re as funny as all the goofballs who claimed Obama was not a citizen WHILE Bush was the “ ceo and his admin found NOTHING.

That YOU don't understand how Biden won, we get it. Humpers are bat shit crazy.

 

[Dagosa]

So the folks in the NYTimes/Siena poll are lying?

Oh, they aren’t lying about Trump dominating the republican party. But republicans only make up 29% of the voters. Who gives a fk what 15% of the electorate thinks.

 

[Dagosa]

So the folks in the NYTimes/Siena poll are lying?

Btw, the NYTimes is part of MSM. Why the fk are you quoting them ? You think they’re FOS.

 

[Dagosa]

Fauci even gave his go-ahead during COVID for the burn, loot, murder crowd to wreak havoc while I wasn’t allowed to go to synagogue.

Sure, I remember his exact quote. * all you motherfks need to go out there and wreck havoc on the constitution and hang Mike Pense….* .oh, that was a different looting and murderous crowd.

 

[Lisa558]

Sure, I remember his exact quote. * all you motherfks need to go out there and wreck havoc on the constitution and hang Mike Pense….* .oh, that was a different looting and murderous crowd.

Nope, he said “all you BLM mutherfchers can go protest the lie about George Floyd, even though it will descend into a riot of burning, looting and murdering.…but you people who want to go to church (or shut), forget about it.”