Hamas wanted to kill him; Israeli saved his life.

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOPfia8Dx5k&feature=channel"]Hamas wanted to kill him; Israeli saved his life - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    There is an interesting story behind this.

    They will not tell it though.
     
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    Wait wait , I know ...
    Israel made him an informant for them , and that is why Hamas tried to kill him 15 years latter.

    Or your standard excuse for fatah killings: 'They were funded and trained by the US'.
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGKzP9EhJMY&feature=related]Iran-Contra 2.0- how bush armed Fatah to fight Hamas - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Yeah ... I don't see how your video is considered a proof of anything ... It's 11 minutes of speculation and hearsay - no concrete evidence.

    If they had proof this whole interview would take 15 seconds, he would just have to say "US helped Fatah, and here is the proof" that's it , end of discussion.

    For example : The earth is round and here is the proof
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    Bam ! End of discussion.


    And you know what ? It doesn't even matter if the US helped Fatah or not.
    It's totally irrelevant to the guys story..
     
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    A search reveals that bassam abu rokba is only ever mentioned in relation to this video,
    nothing else ever
    without further evidence I would have to conclude this video is speculation and hearsay - no concrete evidence.
     
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    You live there and you don't know that? WOW!

    You can't even see the ramifications of that.

    Same story different journalist.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNJud3yXsqg]Laila El-Haddad reporting on Gaza violence - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    What did you hope to find in your search ?
    You wanted to find where he works ? Who he dated in high-school ?
    The only thing that makes him special is his story , and that is why he is only mentioned in relation to his story.


    In contrast to Tinmore's posts that based on 'He said she said' information,
    This guy is actually telling a personal experience, something that happened to him, that is not hearsay or speculation, that is a testimony.


    As I said before , I don't know if US\Israel helped Fatah. If they did I would not be surprised and in fact it is very likely as Fatah is better for Israel then the Hamas.
    That being said, if that was a known fact it should be easily proven (Like the world is round). Instead in those videos of yours they go on and on and on, but they don't present evidence.

    Anyway for the question at hand, it matters not if they helped Fatah or not.
    An interesting observation , You don't live here and you presume to know something that I don't when the source of your 'knowledge' is nothing more then speculations.

    It doesn't matter how many different journalists report this,as long as those journalists don't present facts that does not help you case.
     
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    I hoped to find some kind of confirmation that he was in fact a former Fatah leader
    Not just A french film's translation of an Arabic speaker, into French, then Hebrew, then subtitled (with mistakes in grammar and spelling) into English:eusa_whistle:
     
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    They don't claim he was a leader of Fatah,they said he was a leading fighter.
    If you think the translation is off,then find someone who speaks Arabic or French that will prove or disprove your claim.
    From what little Arabic that I know it seems to add up with the translation.
     

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