HAHA @ Wisconsin recall whackos

[OohPooPahDoo]

No of course not. But when a person preaches and supports every single damn item in the Communist Constitution, can't help but wonder.

Can't help but wonder ... what?

 

[Wicked Jester]

But there are a hell of a lot of public school teachers who are completely incompetent......

How many?

They ARE a big part of the problem with our crappy public schools situation in this country, and they seriously need to start being held accountable.

And you expect you'll get a better qualified teacher workforce by lowering their benefits and pay.

Its funny how the right thinks that higher pay makes CEO's and managers work harder but everyone else should be motivated by lower pay.

Screw the unions and their protection of them.

Why do you hate people who work for a living?

And anybody who believes otherwise, is a friggin' idiot.

If you don't listen to the same music as I do you're a faggot puppy eater.

So, who lowered those idiots in Wiscon's pay and benefits?........Nobody did. It's a damn fact.

Show one teacher who's pay and benefits were decreased.........You can't do it.

Do you even understand what the fuck happened there?

I don't hate anybody who works. I hate people who are too ignorant to understand what actually happened, but try to spin it as the teachers losing pay and benefits......No they didn't. And that's a damn fact.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

So, who lowered those idiots in Wiscon's pay and benefits?........Nobody did. It's a damn fact.

Show one teacher who's pay and benefits were decreased.........You can't do it.

Do you even understand what the fuck happened there?

You said they should be "held accountable" - I was replying to that. Sorry if you can't follow a conversation.

I don't hate anybody who works.

Sure you do. Anyone who works and who desires representation in a union, you hate.

 

[bucs90]

What happens when the taxpayers can simply no longer afford the demands of the union? No left winger has an answer for that......except "increase revenues".

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

What happens when the taxpayers can simply no longer afford the demands of the union?

They negotiate with the union for lower pay and benefits.

 

[Ducky8abug]

The union movement is well tied to the socialist/communist movement. "Workers" are used as pawns by those two movements. And the WI teachers are just the latest ones.

Great googily-moogily, it's another conspiracy theorist! Good lord, give me strength!

The only time I hear/read stuff like that is when it's coming from people who don't know what they're talking about.

Unions are an opt-in or opt-out entitlement program. It uses its bargaining power to negotiate the terms on health care, job security, etc. They're built to enforce the civil rights of laborers.

Otherwise, you'll get a dozen of industrial factories set up in Astoria, Queens paying workers $5.75/h. If an accident occurs, you're on your own. There's no insurance to account for any injuries. How do I know this? Because I worked as a factory worker for five years, and these people only care about the bottom line. As far as your health is concerned, it could take a back seat to the company's production value. Now, I don't know about any of you, but I'm sure as heck not going back to that. If joining, what you have deemed, as communist organization will prevent me from being hired into a similar factory, then let be the first to say, I'LL BE ON IT LIKE SHIT TO STINK.

And for the record, the government has been a capitalist and socialist system since the 19-fracking-40s (possible longer than that). Capitalism, as you were (loosely) taught, no longer exists. It hasn't existed for more than SIXTY FRACKING YEARS. The capitalism you so proudly idiolize is based on mega-mergers and the socialist system you despise, allows you gits to receive unemployment checks. But hey, if you people want to go on with your communist/socialist rant, have at it.

 

[bucs90]

OoompahLoompaDoo, you are ignoring my brand new thread, just for you, showing the direct link between the Communist Party and US labor unions. Not just that link, but the freakin' word-for-word adherance by the Democrats to the Communist Party USA's Constitutional agenda. I mean not one issue is left out. Every agenda in the Commy Constitution is currently being fought for by the left wing in America. Every single one of them.

So every left winger is 1 of 3 things:

1- A member of the Communist Party
2- Sympathetic to the Communist Party
3- Too stupid to realize they are being used as a pawn to fight for the agenda of the Communist Party

When you fight for every item on their agenda, you cannot claim you are anything but 1 of the 3.

 

[MeBelle]

teachers are the root of all evil!

No, they are not......But there are a hell of a lot of public school teachers who are completely incompetent......They ARE a big part of the problem with our crappy public schools situation in this country, and they seriously need to start being held accountable. Screw the unions and their protection of them.

And anybody who believes otherwise, is a friggin' idiot.

My niece is an elementary school teacher--and she insisted that I watch on the internet a program called "waiting for Superman"--it shows exactly how bad it can be with rotten teachers that school boards can't get rid of.

Only if the School Board has the back bone to do it. Problem is, many school boards are afraid of Unions.
Shame on Unions for putting so many public employees at risk for losing their jobs! I'm not talking about just Wisconsin either, it is rabid all over the country.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Not just that link, but the freakin' word-for-word adherance by the Democrats to the Communist Party USA's Constitutional agenda. I mean not one issue is left out. Every agenda in the Commy Constitution is currently being fought for by the left wing in America. Every single one of them.

Is it "word for word" the same - or is every "issue" the same? Those mean two different things.

So every left winger is 1 of 3 things:

1- A member of the Communist Party
2- Sympathetic to the Communist Party
3- Too stupid to realize they are being used as a pawn to fight for the agenda of the Communist Party

So you're going to round us all up and gas us, or are you cool with Communists living amongst you?

 

[bucs90]

The union movement is well tied to the socialist/communist movement. "Workers" are used as pawns by those two movements. And the WI teachers are just the latest ones.

Great googily-moogily, it's another conspiracy theorist! Good lord, give me strength!

The only time I hear/read stuff like that is when it's coming from people who don't know what they're talking about.

Unions are an opt-in or opt-out entitlement program. It uses its bargaining power to negotiate the terms on health care, job security, etc. They're built to enforce the civil rights of laborers.

Otherwise, you'll get a dozen of industrial factories set up in Astoria, Queens for example, paying workers $5.75/h with no insurance to account for any accidents that may occur within the factory. How do I know this? Because I worked as a factory worker for five God damned years, and these people will work your ass like you were mule. Now, I don't know about any of you, but I'm sure as heck am not going back to that. If joining, what you have deemed, as communist organization will prevent me from going back to that shit, then let be the first to say, I'LL BE ON IT LIKE SHIT TO STINK.

And one other thing, the government has been a capitalist and socialist system since the 19-fracking-40s. Capitalism, as you were (loosely) taught, no longer exists. It hasn't existed for more than SIXTY FRACKING YEARS. The capitalism you so proudly idiolize is based on mega-mergers and the socialist system you despise, allows you gits to receive unemployment checks. But hey, if you people want to go on with your communist/socialist rant, have at it.

It's not a conspiracy when it's fact. See my new thread. The Communist Party USA's Constitution CLEARLY outlines every item on their agenda, and the Democrat Party is currently fighting for every one of those items. It's right there on paper, clear as day. You cant deny that.

 

[Wicked Jester]

So, who lowered those idiots in Wiscon's pay and benefits?........Nobody did. It's a damn fact.

Show one teacher who's pay and benefits were decreased.........You can't do it.

Do you even understand what the fuck happened there?

You said they should be "held accountable" - I was replying to that. Sorry if you can't follow a conversation.

I don't hate anybody who works.

Sure you do. Anyone who works and who desires representation in a union, you hate.

Yes, they should be held fully accountable for their failings, and they should not enjoy the protection of a corrupt union.........A school board should have the absolute right to fire incompetent morons, without having to put up with the expense of a union fight to protect said incompetent moron.

And, you did imply that those teachers are working for less pay and benfits.....They lost no pay, they lost no benefits.

And no, I don't hate anybody who works...In fact, I provided excellent paying jobs and benefits to many harworking people through the years, while busting my ass right next to 'em.....You're just a fuckin' typical liberal idiot who hasn't a clue, and makes wild accusations against people who disagree with your ignorant BS.

 

[bucs90]

Not just that link, but the freakin' word-for-word adherance by the Democrats to the Communist Party USA's Constitutional agenda. I mean not one issue is left out. Every agenda in the Commy Constitution is currently being fought for by the left wing in America. Every single one of them.

Is it "word for word" the same - or is every "issue" the same? Those mean two different things.

So every left winger is 1 of 3 things:

1- A member of the Communist Party
2- Sympathetic to the Communist Party
3- Too stupid to realize they are being used as a pawn to fight for the agenda of the Communist Party

So you're going to round us all up and gas us, or are you cool with Communists living amongst you?

It's literally word for word. Read it. You'll think you are listening to a Democratic Convention speech.

No, we aren't gonna gas anyone. That ideology is not going to win, so we have nothing to worry about. Unlike left wingers, I'm tolerant of all viewpoints. I just know that one will lose in elections, like it did tonight in Wisconsin.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Yes, they should be held fully accountable for their failings,

In what way?

and they should not enjoy the protection of a corrupt union........

They aren't.

And, you did imply that those teachers are working for less pay and benfits.....They lost no pay, they lost no benefits.

No I didn't. I merely assumed that by "hold accountable" you meant through pay and benefits and not through being docked brownie points or writing their name on the board.

In fact, I provided excellent paying jobs and benefits to many harworking people through the years.....

Many hardworking people have provided excellent service to you through the years, allowing you to increase your wealth and standard of living with greater ease than would have been possible without them.

You're just a fuckin' typical liberal idiot who hasn't a clue, and makes wild accusations against people who disagree with your ignorant BS.

Then why are you talking to me? You've got me figured out, seems you could just write my replies for me and save me the trouble.

 

[MeBelle]

The union movement is well tied to the socialist/communist movement. "Workers" are used as pawns by those two movements. And the WI teachers are just the latest ones.

Great googily-moogily, it's another conspiracy theorist! Good lord, give me strength!

The only time I hear/read stuff like that is when it's coming from people who don't know what they're talking about.

Unions are an opt-in or opt-out entitlement program. It uses its bargaining power to negotiate the terms on health care, job security, etc. They're built to enforce the civil rights of laborers.

Otherwise, you'll get a dozen of industrial factories set up in Astoria, Queens paying workers $5.75/h. If an accident occurs, you're on your own. There's no insurance to account for any injuries. How do I know this? Because I worked as a factory worker for five years, and these people only care about the assembly line. As far as your health is concerned, it could take a back seat to the company's production value. Now, I don't know about any of you, but I'm sure as heck not going back to that. If joining, what you have deemed, as communist organization will prevent me from being hired into a similar factory, then let be the first to say, I'LL BE ON IT LIKE SHIT TO STINK.

And for the record, the government has been a capitalist and socialist system since the 19-fracking-40s. Capitalism, as you were (loosely) taught, no longer exists. It hasn't existed for more than SIXTY FRACKING YEARS. The capitalism you so proudly idiolize is based on mega-mergers and the socialist system you despise, allows you gits to receive unemployment checks. But hey, if you people want to go on with your communist/socialist rant, have at it.

How long ago did you work in this factory?

 

[Ducky8abug]

The union movement is well tied to the socialist/communist movement. "Workers" are used as pawns by those two movements. And the WI teachers are just the latest ones.

Great googily-moogily, it's another conspiracy theorist! Good lord, give me strength!

The only time I hear/read stuff like that is when it's coming from people who don't know what they're talking about.

Unions are an opt-in or opt-out entitlement program. It uses its bargaining power to negotiate the terms on health care, job security, etc. They're built to enforce the civil rights of laborers.

Otherwise, you'll get a dozen of industrial factories set up in Astoria, Queens paying workers $5.75/h. If an accident occurs, you're on your own. There's no insurance to account for any injuries. How do I know this? Because I worked as a factory worker for five years, and these people only care about the assembly line. As far as your health is concerned, it could take a back seat to the company's production value. Now, I don't know about any of you, but I'm sure as heck not going back to that. If joining, what you have deemed, as communist organization will prevent me from being hired into a similar factory, then let be the first to say, I'LL BE ON IT LIKE SHIT TO STINK.

And for the record, the government has been a capitalist and socialist system since the 19-fracking-40s. Capitalism, as you were (loosely) taught, no longer exists. It hasn't existed for more than SIXTY FRACKING YEARS. The capitalism you so proudly idiolize is based on mega-mergers and the socialist system you despise, allows you gits to receive unemployment checks. But hey, if you people want to go on with your communist/socialist rant, have at it.

How long ago did you work in this factory?

From 2001 to 2005. I have cuts on my hands that still haven't healed yet. I remember working 10 hours straight, at one point, just to make enough to pay my light bill. I couldn't even pay rent, just a few utitilities. It was unreal! I wouldn't recommend it to anyone!

 

[Wicked Jester]

It is quite entertaining watching Chris Mathews spitting and sputtering all over himself right now as he spews his loony liberal drivel after this loss.

And of course, all he can spew is the typical liberal drivel of, "They're out to get the poor teachers. They hate the poor teachers. OH MY GOD THEY'RE DECLARING WAR ON THE POOR TEACHERS, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!".

Friggin' idiot!

 

[Wicked Jester]

COOL!........Now we get to watch Laurence O'donnell (the self professed socialist) and Ed Shultz babble on about this supposed injustice.

Friggin' idiots!

Nothing more entertaining than whiney liberal morons having whiney liberal hissy fits!

MUST SEE TV, INDEED!

 

[oracle]

Not sure how the recall election is gonna turn out. WHen I left the house, I saw Ed Shultz hiding an outburst when the initial numbers came out showing strong GOP leads. I'm sure a lot has change in the last hour. But two thoughts....

1- I was a bit creeped out when I saw the teenage boys in the crowd being forced to hold those Communist symbol signs, the red ones with the big blue fist and a white star. They're being told this is to support teachers, I'm sure. But a bit of reasearch shows what that fist to the sky is rooted in. Creepy.

2- Most hilarious is this: Lets say Dem's win it. And overturn the anti-union bill. Then, the governor would in theory have to resort to the action that he didn't do before the bill passed, which is laying off a bunch of teachers to balance the budget.


So, if the communists get their way and win the recalls, they'll win a victory....that will end up getting a bunch of them fired. How freakin' ironic, right?

Who gives a shit! They voted that jackass in, NOW they want democracy? I hope they fail. Let them be the first to see what conservatives REALLY think of America and it's citizens.

 

[oracle]

Via Politico reporter Dave Catanese,

Dem source: Dems will get close but not close enough in #SD14 for @FredClarkWI. GOP source says Rs will hold all but Kapanke. #WIRecall

Turn on your T.V. doofus they already lost one that wasn't him.

 

[oracle]

I thought they were already laying off public workers up there to balance the budget?

With out the Steps they took, that the Unions fought, The Lay off would have been much larger.

Keep telling yourself that. It's a matter of priorities.