Gutless!

[The Rabbi]

It's not about the "Dems"; go to another thread and post your rants. Or, name one, just one Republican not afraid to confront the movement to the fringe by former Republicans who now identify themselves by a new label.
BTW, I've labeled you often, and I suspect you and I disagree on my honest assessment (or do you know in your heart i'm correct). So are you a Republican, a Libertarian, or a member of one of the many ad hoc elements which once were conservatives (social, fiscal or neo)?

1) When you moan about Republicans you can at least be factual. Bringing up Democrats brings home how much further and how much more corrupt that party has become.
2) Here ya go:Republican former U.S. senator endorses Sestak | Philadelphia Inquirer | 08/24/2010
Will you shut the fuck up now?
3) I am a Reagan Republican, have been since 1980.

1. No. You're too biased to make any such judgment
2. No.
3. I'm so sorry.

Great response. Both you and Jake are on the same page here: Don't confuse me with the fact, dammit.
The only thing gutless here is you, sucka.

 

[MikeK]

It is a sad commentary on the Republican Party when there are no leaders to stand up and express outrage as the GOP is being hyjacked by extremists.
What would Sen. Goldwater, President DDE or President TR say in response to the jingoism, racisim, divisive language and references to "Second Amendment solutions" expressed by Republican members of Congress, former an active, and former and current Republican Governors ?
As titular leader of the Republicans we might expect Steele to speak out, and as possible nominees for the office of president one might expect Romeny or Barbour or Jindal to speak out for reason and honest debate, but they don't.
President's Lincoln, Roosevelt and Eisenhower would be ashamed, the GOP has become the party of hackneyed phrases and hysterical rants; and has produced not a single leader able, willing and brave enough to articulate a way forward.

The sad reality is the vast majority of today's Republicans either have forgotten or never knew the difference between the spirit of yesterday's party and its present-day mutation.

I was a registered Republican going back to the Goldwater era but I re-registered as a Democrat in 2003, only because there is no Independent Party in New Jersey and I wish to vote in primaries.

Today's Republican Party is a disgrace.

 

[The Rabbi]

It is a sad commentary on the Republican Party when there are no leaders to stand up and express outrage as the GOP is being hyjacked by extremists.
What would Sen. Goldwater, President DDE or President TR say in response to the jingoism, racisim, divisive language and references to "Second Amendment solutions" expressed by Republican members of Congress, former an active, and former and current Republican Governors ?
As titular leader of the Republicans we might expect Steele to speak out, and as possible nominees for the office of president one might expect Romeny or Barbour or Jindal to speak out for reason and honest debate, but they don't.
President's Lincoln, Roosevelt and Eisenhower would be ashamed, the GOP has become the party of hackneyed phrases and hysterical rants; and has produced not a single leader able, willing and brave enough to articulate a way forward.

The sad reality is the vast majority of today's Republicans either have forgotten or never knew the difference between the spirit of yesterday's party and its present-day mutation.

I was a registered Republican going back to the Goldwater era but I re-registered as a Democrat in 2003, only because there is no Independent Party in New Jersey and I wish to vote in primaries.

Today's Republican Party is a disgrace.

And the democrats are models of probity and rectitude?

 

[JakeStarkey]

What a stupid ass remark, Rabbi! So what you get to say: well, daveman raped him, too!

You are a danger to yourself as well as everybody else.

 

[daveman]

What a stupid ass remark, Rabbi! So what you get to say: well, daveman raped him, too!

You are a danger to yourself as well as everybody else.

Ladies and gentlemen, JakeStarkey's advice to the GOP:

Vote Democrat.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

What's "extreme" about getting back to founding principals like low taxation, limited government and personal responsibility?

What world do you live in? Oh, the world of Marx and Engels.

 

[Defiant1]

It is a sad commentary on the Republican Party when there are no leaders to stand up and express outrage as the GOP is being hyjacked by extremists.
What would Sen. Goldwater, President DDE or President TR say in response to the jingoism, racisim, divisive language and references to "Second Amendment solutions" expressed by Republican members of Congress, former an active, and former and current Republican Governors ?
As titular leader of the Republicans we might expect Steele to speak out, and as possible nominees for the office of president one might expect Romeny or Barbour or Jindal to speak out for reason and honest debate, but they don't.
President's Lincoln, Roosevelt and Eisenhower would be ashamed, the GOP has become the party of hackneyed phrases and hysterical rants; and has produced not a single leader able, willing and brave enough to articulate a way forward.

Why don't you worry about your own party? If you aren't a registered Republican it's none of your fucking business.

 

[daveman]

It is a sad commentary on the Republican Party when there are no leaders to stand up and express outrage as the GOP is being hyjacked by extremists.
What would Sen. Goldwater, President DDE or President TR say in response to the jingoism, racisim, divisive language and references to "Second Amendment solutions" expressed by Republican members of Congress, former an active, and former and current Republican Governors ?
As titular leader of the Republicans we might expect Steele to speak out, and as possible nominees for the office of president one might expect Romeny or Barbour or Jindal to speak out for reason and honest debate, but they don't.
President's Lincoln, Roosevelt and Eisenhower would be ashamed, the GOP has become the party of hackneyed phrases and hysterical rants; and has produced not a single leader able, willing and brave enough to articulate a way forward.

Why don't you worry about your own party? If you aren't a registered Republican it's none of your fucking business.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It is a sad commentary on the Republican Party when there are no leaders to stand up and express outrage as the GOP is being hyjacked by extremists.
What would Sen. Goldwater, President DDE or President TR say in response to the jingoism, racisim, divisive language and references to "Second Amendment solutions" expressed by Republican members of Congress, former an active, and former and current Republican Governors ?
As titular leader of the Republicans we might expect Steele to speak out, and as possible nominees for the office of president one might expect Romeny or Barbour or Jindal to speak out for reason and honest debate, but they don't.
President's Lincoln, Roosevelt and Eisenhower would be ashamed, the GOP has become the party of hackneyed phrases and hysterical rants; and has produced not a single leader able, willing and brave enough to articulate a way forward.

Why don't you worry about your own party? If you aren't a registered Republican it's none of your fucking business.

Fuck off, D1. The party is corrupt from the top, and we are doing our best to clean out from the bottom. Slow going but we will do it. That we have folks like Palin, Beck, and Limbaugh speaking for us shows just what trash this party has become.

 

[daveman]

It is a sad commentary on the Republican Party when there are no leaders to stand up and express outrage as the GOP is being hyjacked by extremists.
What would Sen. Goldwater, President DDE or President TR say in response to the jingoism, racisim, divisive language and references to "Second Amendment solutions" expressed by Republican members of Congress, former an active, and former and current Republican Governors ?
As titular leader of the Republicans we might expect Steele to speak out, and as possible nominees for the office of president one might expect Romeny or Barbour or Jindal to speak out for reason and honest debate, but they don't.
President's Lincoln, Roosevelt and Eisenhower would be ashamed, the GOP has become the party of hackneyed phrases and hysterical rants; and has produced not a single leader able, willing and brave enough to articulate a way forward.

Why don't you worry about your own party? If you aren't a registered Republican it's none of your fucking business.

Fuck off, D1. The party is corrupt from the top, and we are doing our best to clean out from the bottom. Slow going but we will do it. That we have folks like Palin, Beck, and Limbaugh speaking for us shows just what trash this party has become.

Bedtime in half an hour, kid. Mom's getting tired of driving you when you miss the bus.

 

[JakeStarkey]

daveman, are you pretending to be Republican now like Rabbi?

 

[SFC Ollie]

It is a sad commentary on the Republican Party when there are no leaders to stand up and express outrage as the GOP is being hyjacked by extremists.
What would Sen. Goldwater, President DDE or President TR say in response to the jingoism, racisim, divisive language and references to "Second Amendment solutions" expressed by Republican members of Congress, former an active, and former and current Republican Governors ?
As titular leader of the Republicans we might expect Steele to speak out, and as possible nominees for the office of president one might expect Romeny or Barbour or Jindal to speak out for reason and honest debate, but they don't.
President's Lincoln, Roosevelt and Eisenhower would be ashamed, the GOP has become the party of hackneyed phrases and hysterical rants; and has produced not a single leader able, willing and brave enough to articulate a way forward.

Why don't you worry about your own party? If you aren't a registered Republican it's none of your fucking business.

Fuck off, D1. The party is corrupt from the top, and we are doing our best to clean out from the bottom. Slow going but we will do it. That we have folks like Palin, Beck, and Limbaugh speaking for us shows just what trash this party has become.

Who the fuck is this we? You are a party of one.

 

[daveman]

daveman, are you pretending to be Republican now like Rabbi?

No, I'm a conservative. The GOP has gone too far left. And your solution? Go even further to the left.

Why don't you just register Democrat (as if you weren't already! ).

 

[The Rabbi]

It is a sad commentary on the Republican Party when there are no leaders to stand up and express outrage as the GOP is being hyjacked by extremists.
What would Sen. Goldwater, President DDE or President TR say in response to the jingoism, racisim, divisive language and references to "Second Amendment solutions" expressed by Republican members of Congress, former an active, and former and current Republican Governors ?
As titular leader of the Republicans we might expect Steele to speak out, and as possible nominees for the office of president one might expect Romeny or Barbour or Jindal to speak out for reason and honest debate, but they don't.
President's Lincoln, Roosevelt and Eisenhower would be ashamed, the GOP has become the party of hackneyed phrases and hysterical rants; and has produced not a single leader able, willing and brave enough to articulate a way forward.

Why don't you worry about your own party? If you aren't a registered Republican it's none of your fucking business.

Fuck off, D1. The party is corrupt from the top, and we are doing our best to clean out from the bottom. Slow going but we will do it. That we have folks like Palin, Beck, and Limbaugh speaking for us shows just what trash this party has become.

What's this "we" shit, Jake? You mean you and your allies in the Socialist Workers Party?

 

[jeffrockit]

It is a sad commentary on the Republican Party when there are no leaders to stand up and express outrage as the GOP is being hyjacked by extremists.
What would Sen. Goldwater, President DDE or President TR say in response to the jingoism, racisim, divisive language and references to "Second Amendment solutions" expressed by Republican members of Congress, former an active, and former and current Republican Governors ?
As titular leader of the Republicans we might expect Steele to speak out, and as possible nominees for the office of president one might expect Romeny or Barbour or Jindal to speak out for reason and honest debate, but they don't.
President's Lincoln, Roosevelt and Eisenhower would be ashamed, the GOP has become the party of hackneyed phrases and hysterical rants; and has produced not a single leader able, willing and brave enough to articulate a way forward.

The Republican party is controlled by people who hate democracy, hate America and basically hate the American people.

That has been obvious for decades.

The Dems, FWIW, aren't much better in my never humble opinion.

Both parties have consistenty voted to ship us jobs offshore, so how anybody can imagine these people truly care about this nation or the American people, I simply cannot fathom.

YOu partisans of either party are, (unless that party is actually taking care of you , of course...then you're just a tool) are fools.

The founders hated democracy. That is why we are a republic based on the rule of law and not mob rule, (which is what democracy is).
I completely agree that neither side cares about the people. Their one and only concern is power and staying in power. The elections are not for the people, they are nothing more than a competition as to who will hold the power. Partisan politics is for fools and only provides support for the politicians.

 

[uscitizen]

What's "extreme" about getting back to founding principals like low taxation, limited government and personal responsibility?

What world do you live in? Oh, the world of Marx and Engels.

the republicans are for Limited Government and personal responsibility???

Not since before Reagan that is certain.

 

[jeffrockit]

What?
How about the far left extremist's (progressives) who have taken over the Dem's? Twisting the arms of moderates and conservative dems to vote for their bills. It's their way or the highway.

Far left? Even if from your perspective the changes offered by the Democrats are 'far left'; most of what they have accomplished was promised during the campaign and IMHO necessary for the country. Of course we can and should debate issues, such as changes in domestic and foreign policy or 'staying the course' set by Bush&Co. But debate should be honorable and rational. My biggest complaint being the Republcian Party is so focused on returning to power they rely solely on emotion and demogoguery.
Where are the leaders of the Republican Party? Why has the GOP devolved and fractured into half a dozen or more ad hoc groups?
Because, there is no one leader able to bring consensus to an alternative to the Democratic Agenda (which I generally support, btw). Both the D's and R's if left unchecked will drift further away from the wants and needs of the great middle.
Few of us would want an ideologue to make the rules, most Americans (I believe) want a problem solver, someone who understands the problems and dreams of all Americans and is able to articulate a pragmatic approach to achieving them.
The R's have no one on the horizon willing to step up and provide a plan. Sadly the only opposition to the D's today are ideologues and demagogues. If I'm wrong, name one.

You are not wrong, however, in what you stated you can easily replace "Republican Party" with "Democrat Party". Dems are not supporters of the people. Their support of countless entitlement programs only serve to keep people down and controlled and voting Democrat. These programs, when carried on for the many years, help to turn people into slaves to the govt.

 

[The Rabbi]

What's "extreme" about getting back to founding principals like low taxation, limited government and personal responsibility?

What world do you live in? Oh, the world of Marx and Engels.

the republicans are for Limited Government and personal responsibility???

Not since before Reagan that is certain.

Huh?
Reagan was basically the first elected Republican who stood for that. Prior to Reagan the GOP was the party of Nixon and Rockefeller, big government types who favored big business. Goldwater and Reagan remade the party and defined it.
They are certainly more for limited gov't than the Dums, the Party of Fuck You.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Reagan grew the civil service and increased the budget. Yep, smaller government and less money my butt.

 

[The Rabbi]

Reagan grew the civil service and increased the budget. Yep, smaller government and less money my butt.

Presidents pass budgets? Wow, news to me.