Gunman ambushes firefighters, kills 2 heros; Takes own life

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    WEBSTER, N.Y. -- Authorities say four firefighters were shot, two of them killed while responding to a house fire in western New York.

    Officials in the town of Webster tell local media outlets that someone shot at firefighters around 6 a.m. Monday when they arrived at the scene of the blaze just east of Rochester.

    Two responding firefighters are being treated for gunshot wounds. Two other firefighters were killed in the hail of bullets.

    The dead are Lt. Mike Chiapperini, 43, a volunteer firefighter and Webster Police Department’s public information officer, and firefighter Tomasz Kaczowka.

    Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering told reporters that the shooter was killed by a gunshot. It's unclear whether the shot was self-inflicted.

    Pickering said the firefighters were shot at when they pulled up to a house in the 100 block of Lake Road. One firefighter was able to flee the scene, while the other three were "pinned down at the location." A SWAT team responded, rescued the firefighter who was alive and then engaged the suspect.

    The crime scene is still active. No more details on the shootout are available.

    4 Firefighters Shot, 2 Killed At Webster, New York Fire Scene; Shooter Dead (UPDATE)
     
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    This would not have happened if we armed our firefighters
     
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    Are there any bets on whether this started out as a domestic disturbance?
     
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    Armed escorts for firefighters just like they do in Los Angeles.

    Almost forgot, armed escorts for firefighters AND paramedics.
     
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    And pizza delivery guys
     
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    This whole story must be a HOAX.

    New York has the strictest gun control laws in the entire United States.

    This sort of thing is IMPOSSIBLE, right?
     
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    The Webster, New York man who fired on firefighters responding to a blaze, killing two, is a felon convicted of manslaughter, according to local police. Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering told a press conference this morning that the suspect was William Spengler, who served roughly 18 years on manslaughter charges for killing his 92 year old grandmother. Spengler had a number of run-ins with the police after that, according to Pickering.

    Because Spengler was convicted a felon, he was supposed to be legally barred from owning a gun. However, because of the so-called “gun show loophole” — a National Rifle Assocation (NRA) supported-policy that allows “private” gun sales to take place without background checks — it’s possible Spengler could have purchased his weapon without the seller even checking whether he could legally own a gun or had a history of violence. Guns bought in this manner are used in 80 percent of violent firearm crimes across the country. Moreover, it’s very easy, as a consequence of another set of NRA-supported changes to federal law, for some felons to get their right to own guns reinstated.

    When asked about the nature of Spengler’s murderous assault on the firefighters, Pickering said that, from what they could tell so far, “it was a trap.”

    Longtime Criminal Set A Trap To Murder Firefighters, Say Police | ThinkProgress
     
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    You fail attempt of sarcasm failed miserably, sickening that you would try to make light of this story after reading that 2 Firemen were killed and then my follow up story, shedding light that it was a trap set by this criminal.

    Sometimes the best thing to say is NOTHING in certain situations.
     
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    Sickening that you would use the murders of firemen in New York by a gun-wielding felon, to advance your agenda of disarming law-abiding American citizens.

    Why don't you support the rights of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves from CRIMINALS and FELONS?

    Why do you mourn the deaths of these firemen, while at the same time refusing to allow them to protect themselves while on the job?
     
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    You loon gun nut from the far right and you gun banner from the far left do not serve a useful purpose.
     

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