Gun owners face much higher murder risk....NRA kills study

[SassyIrishLass]

How many were killed by the dreaded and lethal pop tart gun?

 

[rightwinger]

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Yet another shooting this morning - Wayne Comm College near Raleigh, NC, one dead, so far, shooter still at large.

Just another day in America.

 

[rightwinger]

Why do you post up the same stupid arguments over and over again?
I dont know about you,but debunking this bullshit again and again is getting tiresome to some of us.
Is your memory really that short?

Your "debunks" are in your mind only

 

[whitehall]

First of all how does a private organization like the NRA have the power to "shut down" a study by a federal government agency? The notion is ludicrous but i's an indication of the unhealthy dangerous paranoia that is rampant on the anti-Constitution, anti-Bill of Rights, anti 2nd Amendment left.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Why do you post up the same stupid arguments over and over again?
I dont know about you,but debunking this bullshit again and again is getting tiresome to some of us.
Is your memory really that short?

Your "debunks" are in your mind only

So you truly dont remember the last time this was discussed? Ad Nauseam......

 

[OKTexas]

MMS Error

Results
During the study period, 1860 homicides occurred in the three counties, 444 of them (23.9 percent) in the home of the victim. After excluding 24 cases for various reasons, we interviewed proxy respondents for 93 percent of the victims. Controls were identified for 99 percent of these, yielding 388 matched pairs. As compared with the controls, the victims more often lived alone or rented their residence. Also, case households more commonly contained an illicit-drug user, a person with prior arrests, or someone who had been hit or hurt in a fight in the home. After controlling for these characteristics, we found that keeping a gun in the home was strongly and independently associated with an increased risk of homicide (adjusted odds ratio, 2.7; 95 percent confidence interval, 1.6 to 4.4). Virtually all of this risk involved homicide by a family member or intimate acquaintance.
Full Text of Results...
Conclusions
The use of illicit drugs and a history of physical fights in the home are important risk factors for homicide in the home. Rather than confer protection, guns kept in the home are associated with an increase in the risk of homicide by a family member or intimate acquaintance.

So you're saying violent people and drug uses will tend to use a gun if one is available, who knew? Otherwise they use what ever else is handy, right? People still die, but at least it's not by the dreaded gun, those damned evil machines.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

First of all how does a private organization like the NRA have the power to "shut down" a study by a federal government agency? The notion is ludicrous but i's an indication of the unhealthy dangerous paranoia that is rampant on the anti-Constitution, anti-Bill of Rights, anti 2nd Amendment left.

They don't have the power to shut down a study. This is just more BS from a anti gun nut

 

[Nosmo King]

So were the guns lawfully owned? Did the gun owners have criminal records?


Or are these people just piece of shit scumbags?

As usual your so called polls are lacking much relevant info.

Ask the NRA

They killed the study

They also steal candy from babies, prevent Santa Claus from delivering his toys, and have been known to mess around with your office stuff, much like Robert Goulet.

No. They actually pressured legislators to deduct from the CDC budget the EXACT COST of conducting the study.

 

[Edgetho]

Why do you good people fall for shit like this?

It's a lie and the OP is a known liar. Why do you insist on bumping a thread based on a complete and lie?

If you must post (I don't see why) simply say, "You're a lying sack of shit" and move on.

Posting on and bumping the thread only gives credence to a lie.

dimocraps are lying scum. It's what they do, it's who they are

 

[OKTexas]

So were the guns lawfully owned? Did the gun owners have criminal records?


Or are these people just piece of shit scumbags?

As usual your so called polls are lacking much relevant info.

Ask the NRA

They killed the study

Yet we're still reading about it, I guess they didn't a very good job, or is this a zombie study, you know, one that rises from the dead.

 

[Edgetho]

Yet another shooting this morning - Wayne Comm College near Raleigh, NC, one dead, so far, shooter still at large.

Just another day in America.

Was it a gun owner who was shot?

dimocraps are lying scum

period

 

[martybegan]

So were the guns lawfully owned? Did the gun owners have criminal records?


Or are these people just piece of shit scumbags?

As usual your so called polls are lacking much relevant info.

Ask the NRA

They killed the study

They also steal candy from babies, prevent Santa Claus from delivering his toys, and have been known to mess around with your office stuff, much like Robert Goulet.

No. They actually pressured legislators to deduct from the CDC budget the EXACT COST of conducting the study.

So guns are a disease?

 

[Nosmo King]

So were the guns lawfully owned? Did the gun owners have criminal records?


Or are these people just piece of shit scumbags?

As usual your so called polls are lacking much relevant info.

Ask the NRA

They killed the study

They also steal candy from babies, prevent Santa Claus from delivering his toys, and have been known to mess around with your office stuff, much like Robert Goulet.

No. They actually pressured legislators to deduct from the CDC budget the EXACT COST of conducting the study.

So guns are a disease?

Public health is at stake whenever a gun is introduced.

 

[rightwinger]

First of all how does a private organization like the NRA have the power to "shut down" a study by a federal government agency? The notion is ludicrous but i's an indication of the unhealthy dangerous paranoia that is rampant on the anti-Constitution, anti-Bill of Rights, anti 2nd Amendment left.

Please tell me you are not this naive

 

[rightwinger]

Why do you good people fall for shit like this?

It's a lie and the OP is a known liar. Why do you insist on bumping a thread based on a complete and lie?

If you must post (I don't see why) simply say, "You're a lying sack of shit" and move on.

Posting on and bumping the thread only gives credence to a lie.

dimocraps are lying scum. It's what they do, it's who they are

bump

 

[whitehall]

You could make statistics mean anything. People who own automobiles are statistically more likely to be injured in car accidents. People who emulate pop-culture celebrities are more likely to be substance abusers. Adolescents who attend public school are more likely to commit suicide than home schooled or private school kids. Of course the anti-2nd Amendment "study" doesn't indicate how many lives are saved by simply brandishing a weapon without firing it and not reporting the incident or how many people are saved from injury when a firearm is used to stop an animal attack. .

 

[Nosmo King]

'Political' science: Where evidence and ideology collide.

Isn't this just more science for Conservatives to hate, fear and be suspicious of?

 

[martybegan]

So were the guns lawfully owned? Did the gun owners have criminal records?


Or are these people just piece of shit scumbags?

As usual your so called polls are lacking much relevant info.

Ask the NRA

They killed the study

They also steal candy from babies, prevent Santa Claus from delivering his toys, and have been known to mess around with your office stuff, much like Robert Goulet.

No. They actually pressured legislators to deduct from the CDC budget the EXACT COST of conducting the study.

So guns are a disease?

Public health is at stake whenever a gun is introduced.

So the government has prevented outside groups who want to do this study access to the data the CDC would have used?

the CDC should concentrate on communicable diseases, its actual purpose, and leave the social engineering to others.

 

[Nosmo King]

Ask the NRA

They killed the study

They also steal candy from babies, prevent Santa Claus from delivering his toys, and have been known to mess around with your office stuff, much like Robert Goulet.

No. They actually pressured legislators to deduct from the CDC budget the EXACT COST of conducting the study.

So guns are a disease?

Public health is at stake whenever a gun is introduced.

So the government has prevented outside groups who want to do this study access to the data the CDC would have used?

the CDC should concentrate on communicable diseases, its actual purpose, and leave the social engineering to others.

Calling the dangers posed by having a gun in the house "social engineering" is naïve at its face, irresponsible at its conclusion.