gun murder rate drops again in 2014...as over 12.8 million carry guns for self defense..

[Brain357]

And here you go....click on the image to enlarge to see the studies....

http://crimepreventionresearchcente...-Maryland-Law-Review-Lott-Concealed-Carry.pdf

Lott...list of papers...

Of course, the single paper that Shermer cites was mentioned and discussed at length in the review of the literature that Lott provided in More Guns, Less Crime (click on screen shots to make them larger). Unfortunately, Scientific American wasn’t willing to allow a link to this list of papers.



Do Right-to-carry laws reduce violent crime? - Crime Prevention Research Center


A 2012 survey of the literature is available here. Some of the research showing that concealed carry laws reduce violent crime is listed here.

Crime, Deterrence, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns by John R. Lott, Jr. and David B. Mustard, Journal of Legal Studies, 1997

The Effect of Concealed Weapons Laws: An Extreme Bound Analysis by William Alan Bartley and Mark A Cohen, published in Economic Inquiry, April 1998 (Copy available here)

Criminal Deterrence, Geographic Spillovers, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns by Stephen Bronars and John R. Lott, Jr., American Economic Review, May 1998

The Impact of Gun Laws on Police Deaths by David Mustard, published in the Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Privately Produced General Deterrence By BRUCE L. BENSON AND BRENT D. MAST, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Does the Right to Carry Concealed Handguns Deter Countable Crimes? Only a Count Analysis Can Say By FLORENZ PLASSMANN AND T. NICOLAUS TIDEMAN, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Testing for the Effects of Concealed Weapons Laws: Specification Errors and Robustness By CARLISLE E. MOODY, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Safe-Storage Gun Laws: Accidental Deaths, Suicides, and Crime By JOHN R. LOTT, JR., AND JOHN E. WHITLEY, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Right-to-Carry Concealed Weapon Laws and Homicide in Large U.S. Counties: The Effect on Weapon Types, Victim Characteristics, and Victim-Offender Relationships By DAVID E. OLSON AND MICHAEL D. MALTZ, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

The Impact of Banning Juvenile Gun Possession By Thomas B. Marvell, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Measurement Error in County-Level UCR Data by John R. Lott, Jr. and John Whitley, published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology, June 2003, Volume 19, Issue 2, pp 185-198

Confirming More Guns, Less Crime by Florenz Plassmann and John Whitley, published in the Stanford Law Review, 2003

Using Placebo Laws to Test “More Guns, Less Crime” by Eric Helland and Alexander Tabarrok, published in Advances in Economic Analysis and Policy, 4 (1): Article 1, 2004

Multiple Victim Public Shootings, Bombings, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handgun Laws: Contrasting Private and Public Law Enforcement By John R. Lott, Jr. and William Landes, published in The Bias Against Guns

More Readers of Gun Magazines, But Not More Crimes by Florenz Plassmann and John R. Lott, Jr.

“More Guns, Less Crime” by John R Lott, Jr. (University of Chicago Press, 2010, 3rd edition).

“The Debate on Shall-Issue Laws” by Carlisle e. Moody, Thomas B. Marvell, Paul R Zimmerman, and Fasil Alemante published in Review of Economics & Finance, 2014

“An examination of the effects of concealed weapons laws and assault weapons bans on state-level murder rates” by Mark Giusa published in Applied Economics Letters, Volume 21, Issue 4, 2014

“The Debate on Shall-Issue Laws” by Carlisle e. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, volume 5, number 3, September 2008

“The Debate on Shall Issue Laws, Continued” by Carlisle e. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, Volume 6, Number 2 May 2009

“Did John Lott Provide Bad Data to the NRC? A Note on Aneja, Donohue, and Zhang” by Carlisle e. Moody, John R Lott, Jr, and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, Volume 10, Number 1, January 2013

More Guns, Less Crime: A Response to Ayres and Donohue’s 1999 book review in the American Law and Economics Review by John R. Lott, Jr.

Right-to-Carry Laws and Violent Crime Revisited: Clustering, Measurement Error, and State-by-State Break downs by John R. Lott, Jr.

Most your links again say by John Lott. Where are the 12 he was not involved with?

Try this one....

http://johnrlott.tripod.com/Plassmann_Whitley.pdf

Confirming ìMore Guns, Less Crimeî

Florenz Plassmann* & John Whitley**

Analyzing county-level data for the entire United States from 1977 to 2000, we find annual reductions in murder rates between 1.5% and 2.3% for each additional year that a right-to-carry law is in effect. For the first five years that such a law is in effect, the total benefit from reduced crimes usually ranges between approximately $2 billion and $3 billion per year.

Ayres and Donohue have simply misread their own results. Their own most general specification that breaks down the impact of the law on a year-by- year basis shows large crime-reducing benefits. Virtually none of their claims that their county-level hybrid model implies initial significant increases in crime are correct. Overall, the vast majority of their estimatesóbased on data up to 1997óactually demonstrate that right-to-carry laws produce substantial crime-reducing benefits. We show that their models also do an extremely poor job of predicting the changes in crime rates after 1997.

Really? johnlott.tripod.com?

As I pointed out moron.....12....

I see from lott's site, of course. The list looks really repetitive...

And the goal post moves....you are vile brain...

Well your source is Lott again, his website. I read through the study by Bartley and Cohen. It does not state that concealed carry reduces crime: View attachment 51158
It is just stating the claim can't be dismissed. The lott website obviously exaggerates.

Helland and Tabarrok also does not conclude that more guns equals less crime:
Although individual coefficientsare difficult to pin down, the negative/positive pattern of results is very rare in the placebo data.
Surprisingly, therefore, we conclude that there is considerable support for the hypothesis that shall-issue
laws cause criminals to substitute away from crimes against persons and towards crimes against property.
Helland and Tabarrok: Using Placebo Laws to Test “More Guns, Less Crime” 5
Produced

They state criminals just change to different types of crimes like I have stated. That doesn't lower crime rates.
http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Helland-Tabarrok-Placebo-Laws.pdf

Your link from the lott site is a joke.

 

[Wildman]

Is there a crime wave or not?

if telling you the truth and facts would improve you intelligence level we might tell you, you libertard low information people need to pay attention to us Conservatives. ...

 

[Wildman]

And the UK still has a MUCH lower gun death rate than the US.

i really do not give a fuck about foreign countries, they could have a ZERO or 99% gun related death rate, that is their problem, not mine, i live in the United States of America!! how about you Mr.libtard?

 

[jasonnfree]

But ... but ... conservatives swore the war on cops caused a massive crime wave!

Can you and your conservative brethren try to get consistent with your talking points? Is there a crime wave or not?

it depends on how many shots were fired. If it is a conservative firing I only hear one shot. If its a liberal I hear a lot of shots, since you guys can't shoot worth ####

You have no way to prove that statement that liberals can't shoot worth #### You think a shooter's political persuasion is listed on the crime report? Now we know of one shooter who couldn't shoot for sour apples who was a conservative. Dick Cheney.

 

[OnePercenter]

And the UK still has a MUCH lower gun death rate than the US.

i really do not give a fuck about foreign countries, they could have a ZERO or 99% gun related death rate, that is their problem, not mine, i live in the United States of America!! how about you Mr.libtard?

So they have what works, and we have what doesn't.

A good start is making legal gun owners responsible for their weapons and we'll have less guns on the street.

 

[NoNukes]

There are stats for 2015 so far, thus the articles on the alarming rise in murders.

Well likely the Result of the Left's public call to murder Police Officers and Whites.

Such is simply the nature of evil... .

You are paranoid and ridiculous.

 

[NoNukes]

Doesn't the US have the high number of gun related deaths of any first world nation?

Yes.
Forget trying to have a discussion with this guy. He just makes things up to promote his agenda.
Here he is talking about 2014 and ignoring what is going on now because it does not fit his agenda.
His avatar is of a famous alcoholic who is a laughing stock, that should tell you something.

Moron…..we don't have stats for 2015……that is why I am not discussing 2015…..you are a dipshit…...

There are stats for 2015 so far, thus the articles on the alarming rise in murders.

In democrat cities where they have attacked their own police and have extreme gun control laws and prevent people from getting concealed carry permits.....Chicago, D.C., Baltimore, and of the 25 most violent cities in the country....all of them except Cleveland have been controlled by democrats for decades...and have the highest gun murder rates....

It is guns, and not Democrats causing these murders.

 

[Vigilante]

Doesn't the US have the high number of gun related deaths of any first world nation?

Yes.
Forget trying to have a discussion with this guy. He just makes things up to promote his agenda.
Here he is talking about 2014 and ignoring what is going on now because it does not fit his agenda.
His avatar is of a famous alcoholic who is a laughing stock, that should tell you something.

Moron…..we don't have stats for 2015……that is why I am not discussing 2015…..you are a dipshit…...

There are stats for 2015 so far, thus the articles on the alarming rise in murders.

In democrat cities where they have attacked their own police and have extreme gun control laws and prevent people from getting concealed carry permits.....Chicago, D.C., Baltimore, and of the 25 most violent cities in the country....all of them except Cleveland have been controlled by democrats for decades...and have the highest gun murder rates....

It is guns, and not Democrats causing these murders.

Just PROTECTING HERSELF from DemocRATS!

 

[NoNukes]

Yes.
Forget trying to have a discussion with this guy. He just makes things up to promote his agenda.
Here he is talking about 2014 and ignoring what is going on now because it does not fit his agenda.
His avatar is of a famous alcoholic who is a laughing stock, that should tell you something.

Moron…..we don't have stats for 2015……that is why I am not discussing 2015…..you are a dipshit…...

There are stats for 2015 so far, thus the articles on the alarming rise in murders.

In democrat cities where they have attacked their own police and have extreme gun control laws and prevent people from getting concealed carry permits.....Chicago, D.C., Baltimore, and of the 25 most violent cities in the country....all of them except Cleveland have been controlled by democrats for decades...and have the highest gun murder rates....

It is guns, and not Democrats causing these murders.

Just PROTECTING HERSELF from DemocRATS!

Scary country, and a crazy one.

 

[Vigilante]

Moron…..we don't have stats for 2015……that is why I am not discussing 2015…..you are a dipshit…...

There are stats for 2015 so far, thus the articles on the alarming rise in murders.

In democrat cities where they have attacked their own police and have extreme gun control laws and prevent people from getting concealed carry permits.....Chicago, D.C., Baltimore, and of the 25 most violent cities in the country....all of them except Cleveland have been controlled by democrats for decades...and have the highest gun murder rates....

It is guns, and not Democrats causing these murders.

Just PROTECTING HERSELF from DemocRATS!

Scary country, and a crazy one.

ESPECIALLY if you live in one of our largest cities run by DemocRATS!

 

[NoNukes]

There are stats for 2015 so far, thus the articles on the alarming rise in murders.

In democrat cities where they have attacked their own police and have extreme gun control laws and prevent people from getting concealed carry permits.....Chicago, D.C., Baltimore, and of the 25 most violent cities in the country....all of them except Cleveland have been controlled by democrats for decades...and have the highest gun murder rates....

It is guns, and not Democrats causing these murders.

Just PROTECTING HERSELF from DemocRATS!

Scary country, and a crazy one.

ESPECIALLY if you live in one of our largest cities run by DemocRATS!

These cities are run by Democrats because the Republicans moved to the suburbs so that they did not have to live around Black people.

 

[Vigilante]

In democrat cities where they have attacked their own police and have extreme gun control laws and prevent people from getting concealed carry permits.....Chicago, D.C., Baltimore, and of the 25 most violent cities in the country....all of them except Cleveland have been controlled by democrats for decades...and have the highest gun murder rates....

It is guns, and not Democrats causing these murders.

Just PROTECTING HERSELF from DemocRATS!

Scary country, and a crazy one.

ESPECIALLY if you live in one of our largest cities run by DemocRATS!

These cities are run by Democrats because the Republicans moved to the suburbs so that they did not have to live around Black THUGS.

I believe this is correct, only changing one word!

 

[2aguy]

Doesn't the US have the high number of gun related deaths of any first world nation?

Yes.
Forget trying to have a discussion with this guy. He just makes things up to promote his agenda.
Here he is talking about 2014 and ignoring what is going on now because it does not fit his agenda.
His avatar is of a famous alcoholic who is a laughing stock, that should tell you something.

Moron…..we don't have stats for 2015……that is why I am not discussing 2015…..you are a dipshit…...

There are stats for 2015 so far, thus the articles on the alarming rise in murders.

In democrat cities where they have attacked their own police and have extreme gun control laws and prevent people from getting concealed carry permits.....Chicago, D.C., Baltimore, and of the 25 most violent cities in the country....all of them except Cleveland have been controlled by democrats for decades...and have the highest gun murder rates....

It is guns, and not Democrats causing these murders.

Sorry, most of the gun violence in the country occurs in democrat controlled voting districts….

 

[2aguy]

Doesn't the US have the high number of gun related deaths of any first world nation?

Yes.
Forget trying to have a discussion with this guy. He just makes things up to promote his agenda.
Here he is talking about 2014 and ignoring what is going on now because it does not fit his agenda.
His avatar is of a famous alcoholic who is a laughing stock, that should tell you something.

Moron…..we don't have stats for 2015……that is why I am not discussing 2015…..you are a dipshit…...

There are stats for 2015 so far, thus the articles on the alarming rise in murders.

In democrat cities where they have attacked their own police and have extreme gun control laws and prevent people from getting concealed carry permits.....Chicago, D.C., Baltimore, and of the 25 most violent cities in the country....all of them except Cleveland have been controlled by democrats for decades...and have the highest gun murder rates....

It is guns, and not Democrats causing these murders.

Here you go…stay away from democrats…they are violent and irrational….

Want to Stop Gun Murder, Democrats? Give Up Your Guns - Breitbart



But he’s just one example of gun crime in the Democrat-supporting world. From 2009-2010, according to the Centers for Disease Control, 26,632 firearm-related homicides took place in the United States. The CDC investigated the number of firearm-related homicides in the 50 most populous U.S. cities; all but six of those cities were located in counties which would go on to vote for Barack Obama in 2012. In those cities, 13,014 firearm-related homicides took place.

In other words, just by confiscating all the guns from all the people in the most populous Democratic cities–by following the Democratic theory that less guns mean less gun crimes–the American gun murder rate would drop by half. And that doesn’t even count all murders from all Democrat-supporting areas in the country.

Obviously, that wouldn’t work–virtually all the major Democratic cities already have gun control, and the Democratic-area murder spree continues. But the media will never discuss where most murders actually occur, or who actually commits them.

 

[OnePercenter]

Scary country, and a crazy one.

Only because of the nutbagger home grown terrorists.

 

[OnePercenter]

Sorry, most of the gun violence in the country occurs in democrat controlled voting districts….

Made possible by irresponsible gun owners making it easy to steal their weapons. One-million plus, all not secured.

Remember, owning guns is a constitutional right but letting them fall into the wrong hands – it’s on you.