Gun control in work

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    GUNS IN AUSTRALIA Here's a thought to warm your hearts... From ......., a police officer in Australia.

    Hi Yanks and Canadians - I thought you all would like to see the real figures from Down Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.

    The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent; Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.
    (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not! and criminals still possess their guns!) While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed. There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly.

    Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns." You won't see this on the American /Canadian evening news or hear your government or members of the State Assembly and Ottawa parliament disseminating this information.

    The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note Americans and Canadians before it's too late!
     
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    Not that i dont believe you but could we get a link.
     
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    Amazing! Just like the NRA has been saying for years!
     
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    The thought of voluntarily surrendering personal firearms boggles my mind.
     
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    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

    any claims based on statistics (even accurate ones) which posit a cause-and-effect relationship between the gun buyback program and increased crime rates because "criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed" are automatically suspect, since the average Australian citizen didn't own firearms even before the buyback. But beyond that, most of the statistics offered here are misleading and present only "first year results" where long-term trends need to be considered in order to draw valid cause-and-effect conclusions.
     
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    One can see the exact same cause and effect in the UK, where citizens are also unarmed. One can see the same effect in American cities and states which have stricter gun control laws. The simple fact is that armed citizens are the best protection against crime and tyranny.
     
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    Hell, we've known this.....

    Lots of info at the link.
    http://justfacts.com/gun_control.htm
     
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    That's the key though. Gun control shouldn't be about taking everyone's guns away, it's about trying to only let sane people use them.
     
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    Yes, but as John Lott has pointed out in More Guns, Less Crime, it isn't necessary for every citizen to own a gun. The point is that a criminal doesn't know for sure if his target is packing or not. Thus you see a drop in the crime rate, in virtually every state where concealed carry permits are available. Even though the majority of citizens are still not carrying guns.
     
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    Gun control is being able to safely operate your firearm, and to hit what you're shooting at... :firing:
     

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