Guess what Republicans? We really need the Dept of Education, EPA and Energy

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    What could be worse than closing down key agencies at critical points in our history?

    At a time when our children are falling woefully behind other countries, Republicans want to kill the Dept of Education

    At a time when Greenhouse gasses are affecting our climate.......Republicans want to close the Environmental Protection Agency

    At a time when we are at the whim of an unstable middle east for oil imports......Republicans want to close the Dept of Energy
     
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    Yes,

    Let's keep the same group that has been so helpful in getting out kids to this sorry state in charge of education.

    Insanity: Doing the same thing while expecting a different result.

    We don't need the Department of Education.
     
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    Department of Education, signed by President Jimmy Carter in 1979, began operations in 1980.

    Jimmy Carter's gift to the teachers unions. Somehow we were able to survive without it and be quite competitive internationally. Now education is regarded as a joke in the United States. It is perhaps the most useless of the Departments. Good riddance. Let education go back to the states and let parents have greater control over their childrens' education, not the government, not the labor unions.

    The Environmnetal Protection Agency, proposed by President Richard Nixon and began operations in 1970.

    Perhaps the biggest intrusion into our private propery rights and personal freedoms and unnecessary hinderance of production and wealth. Especially now under manufactured "climate change" fears. I say good riddance and good riddance to California's version of this monstrosity, the California Air Resources Boards (CARB)

    Another creation by President Jimmy Carter, signed and began operations in 1977.

    Of the three agencies listed, seemingly the most useful of the three, though we ought to be doing far more in localized oil production, yet hindered by the EPA and Dept of Interior. I haven't looked into this department enough to have a hard desire to see its elimination.
     
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    The Republicans want to get rid of the Dept. of Education, because they are so prone to gaffes, that they don't want the rest of us to be smart enough to notice.

    They want to get rid of the EPA, because the less regulations and clean up you have to do, the more money you can put towards your profits. Only trouble is, eventually we won't have a sustainable environment to live in anymore.

    And yeah........they want to get rid of the Dept. of Energy and replace it with Dept. of Oil and Drilling. Who needs green energy?
     
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    The Department of Education is nothing but a pass through agency, taking federal taxes and re-distributing them back to the states, with of course, the usual burecratic overhead. All the DoEd should be doing is setting basic standards. it should have a 1/10th of the budget is has now.

    The EPA actually has some merit federally, as things done in one state affect another. what needs to happen however, is streamlining of the process, with elimination of the duplication found at both the federal level and the state level. An owner/operator of process "X" should be able to go to one level of agency, either state or federal, depending on the process and the location. Also any EPA regulation needs to have a strict backing in legislation, not just a blanket "you can now regulate this" edict.

    The DoE should either go away, or take any energy production portfolio from the Department of the Interior. Also if it has juristiction, it should absorb any state regulatory role, again, for process X, you should only have to go to one agency for approval, not 2 or 5.
     
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    What do we need the pesky EPA for. We needs lots of chemicals and raw sewage in our water. And lots of chemicals in the air we breathe as well.
    Rivers catching on fire were entertaining.
    And who needs to swim or eat fish anyway.

    How can people get so stupid. Doing away with the EPA? A prime example though of a failed education system.
     
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    I have no issue with the early work the EPA did, and making standards for things like air and water pollution, to me, are part of the federal mandate to regulate commerce between states. What I have an issue with is them branching into other areas, and expanding thier scope, without a true legislative mandate. I also have issue with duplication at the state level.

    Finally most EPA regulations read more like legal positions than engineering standards. The way regulations work today, you spend more money on lawyers making sure your paperwork is up to date than on engineering making sure your processes are working right. People are more afraid of the amount of forms they have to fill out than the actual results of any excessive release.
     
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    High per pupil spending and horrible results, good thing you're fighting to protect that, we'd hate to get something for our money with more local control.

    Actually our environment is doing pretty well, which is why despite your incessant liberal whining all you ever quote is antidotal evidence and sweeping generalizations...like this...

    We're blocking domestic exploration, zero emission nuclear power, drilling off shores and in frozen tundra, construction of refineries and we've endless local blends that reduce production further and kill competition. But hey, we are wasting billions on green companies that aren't viable and keep shutting down. Again trying to protect a system that's done so well for us, well done right winger.

    Damn, you Republicans are all over this, aren't you?
     

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