Green Energy FAILURE... Full state in Australia in the dark....

[Billy_Bob]

Green Energy FAILURE... Full state in Australia in the dark....

This comes as no surprise to me.. They closed up their coal fired plants for green energy and now they have collapsed their grid.. No estimation as to when reliable power might be restored...

Entire state of South Australia has power black out because of flawed climate change energy policy


Enviro wacko stupidity comes home to roost..

 

[Billy_Bob]

"The entire state of South Australia suffered a complete power black out on Wednesday September 28 plugging it’s nearly 1.7 million residents, communities and businesses into darkness.

Loss of available power from transmissions lines feeding the region from other states coupled with South Australia’s ill-considered climate change energy policy of forced shutdown of the states operating coal plants to promote heavy use of renewable energy created this latest power debacle."


These people are pissed off... demanding answers..

 

[Billy_Bob]

Just think, California is fast becoming the next failure..

 

[skookerasbil]

Oooooooooops!!

Like in Germany in the past two years......coal will be getting very popular again!!

 

[Billy_Bob]

These are the same people who are paying over $2.50kwh...

I wonder if they are getting what they paid for.. US power is about $0.14 to $0.27 per kwh.. a 1050% increase in their power bills...

 

[Old Rocks]

What a liar you are, Silly Billy

SA blackout: Why and how?

SA power outage: How did it happen?
Updated Wed at 7:09pm

PHOTO: A map on the SA Power Networks website shows outages across South Australia. (SA Power Networks)
RELATED STORY: 'Serious questions' as power cuts leave SA in chaos
RELATED STORY: Adelaide CBD power out as massive storm hits SA
RELATED STORY: As it happened: South Australia loses power as wild weather lashes state
MAP: SA
South Australia and its 1.7 million residents were left without power on Wednesday evening following severe storms.

So have recent events and a focus on renewable energy created the 'perfect storm' for a state-wide blackout?

First, what happened?
SA Premier Jay Weatherill confirmed two tornados destroyed three elements of critical infrastructure, which led to the power system protecting itself with a shutdown.

"Essentially what happened is a massive set of power was removed and when that happens it trips the system," he said in a press conference on Wednesday evening.

Earlier he told ABC radio in Adelaide the weather has caused damage to power infrastructure near Port Augusta.

"It appears there was a weather event that damaged infrastructure in the Port Augusta area. Energy generation assets remain intact. At this stage there does not seem to be any damage to the interconnector with Victoria," he said.

SA Power Networks' Paul Roberts said they were investigating whether a network shutdown as a protection was the cause.

"We believe — and this is only early information — that there may have been some issue with the interconnector but the state's power system is shut down I think possibly as a protection," he said.

"It means we're not receiving any electricity supply from generators to be able to supply to generators."

The state is powered by a mix of wind, solar and gas.

In May, Alinta's Northern power station at Port Augusta closed, which means coal has been cut out of the electricity equation.

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VIDEO: What went wrong with SA's power supply? (Lateline)


At the time, Australian Energy Council chief executive Matthew Warren said the power station's closure meant the state would have less back-up energy available on days of peak demand.

He also said the state would have a greater reliance on renewable energy and on the interconnector from Victoria for base-load power.

"The reality for South Australians is that we're in uncharted waters," he said in May.

"There's an increased level of risk that we really haven't seen before anywhere in the world, so it doesn't mean we'll have more blackouts, hopefully if we're smart we can sort out solutions so power supply can be the same as usual, but it's an increased risk."

Did that impact Wednesday's event?
The Premier says no.

"This would have happened with the Port Augusta power station in place," he said.

"We have sufficient back-up baseload power.

"The interconnector is still up and running."

So, elements of the grid were knocked out by tornadoes, but the generation and backup were are still available when those elements are replaced. Not the generation but the grid that went down, caused by an extreme weather event. An ongoing one at that.

 

[jc456]

What a liar you are, Silly Billy

SA blackout: Why and how?

SA power outage: How did it happen?
Updated Wed at 7:09pm

PHOTO: A map on the SA Power Networks website shows outages across South Australia. (SA Power Networks)
RELATED STORY: 'Serious questions' as power cuts leave SA in chaos
RELATED STORY: Adelaide CBD power out as massive storm hits SA
RELATED STORY: As it happened: South Australia loses power as wild weather lashes state
MAP: SA
South Australia and its 1.7 million residents were left without power on Wednesday evening following severe storms.

So have recent events and a focus on renewable energy created the 'perfect storm' for a state-wide blackout?

First, what happened?
SA Premier Jay Weatherill confirmed two tornados destroyed three elements of critical infrastructure, which led to the power system protecting itself with a shutdown.

"Essentially what happened is a massive set of power was removed and when that happens it trips the system," he said in a press conference on Wednesday evening.

Earlier he told ABC radio in Adelaide the weather has caused damage to power infrastructure near Port Augusta.

"It appears there was a weather event that damaged infrastructure in the Port Augusta area. Energy generation assets remain intact. At this stage there does not seem to be any damage to the interconnector with Victoria," he said.

SA Power Networks' Paul Roberts said they were investigating whether a network shutdown as a protection was the cause.

"We believe — and this is only early information — that there may have been some issue with the interconnector but the state's power system is shut down I think possibly as a protection," he said.

"It means we're not receiving any electricity supply from generators to be able to supply to generators."

The state is powered by a mix of wind, solar and gas.

In May, Alinta's Northern power station at Port Augusta closed, which means coal has been cut out of the electricity equation.

Media player: "Space" to play, "M" to mute, "left" and "right" to seek.


VIDEO: What went wrong with SA's power supply? (Lateline)


At the time, Australian Energy Council chief executive Matthew Warren said the power station's closure meant the state would have less back-up energy available on days of peak demand.

He also said the state would have a greater reliance on renewable energy and on the interconnector from Victoria for base-load power.

"The reality for South Australians is that we're in uncharted waters," he said in May.

"There's an increased level of risk that we really haven't seen before anywhere in the world, so it doesn't mean we'll have more blackouts, hopefully if we're smart we can sort out solutions so power supply can be the same as usual, but it's an increased risk."

Did that impact Wednesday's event?
The Premier says no.

"This would have happened with the Port Augusta power station in place," he said.

"We have sufficient back-up baseload power.

"The interconnector is still up and running."

So, elements of the grid were knocked out by tornadoes, but the generation and backup were are still available when those elements are replaced. Not the generation but the grid that went down, caused by an extreme weather event. An ongoing one at that.

not good, not good at all.

 

[Billy_Bob]

What a liar you are, Silly Billy

SA blackout: Why and how?

SA power outage: How did it happen?
Updated Wed at 7:09pm

PHOTO: A map on the SA Power Networks website shows outages across South Australia. (SA Power Networks)
RELATED STORY: 'Serious questions' as power cuts leave SA in chaos
RELATED STORY: Adelaide CBD power out as massive storm hits SA
RELATED STORY: As it happened: South Australia loses power as wild weather lashes state
MAP: SA
South Australia and its 1.7 million residents were left without power on Wednesday evening following severe storms.

So have recent events and a focus on renewable energy created the 'perfect storm' for a state-wide blackout?

First, what happened?
SA Premier Jay Weatherill confirmed two tornados destroyed three elements of critical infrastructure, which led to the power system protecting itself with a shutdown.

"Essentially what happened is a massive set of power was removed and when that happens it trips the system," he said in a press conference on Wednesday evening.

Earlier he told ABC radio in Adelaide the weather has caused damage to power infrastructure near Port Augusta.

"It appears there was a weather event that damaged infrastructure in the Port Augusta area. Energy generation assets remain intact. At this stage there does not seem to be any damage to the interconnector with Victoria," he said.

SA Power Networks' Paul Roberts said they were investigating whether a network shutdown as a protection was the cause.

"We believe — and this is only early information — that there may have been some issue with the interconnector but the state's power system is shut down I think possibly as a protection," he said.

"It means we're not receiving any electricity supply from generators to be able to supply to generators."

The state is powered by a mix of wind, solar and gas.

In May, Alinta's Northern power station at Port Augusta closed, which means coal has been cut out of the electricity equation.

Media player: "Space" to play, "M" to mute, "left" and "right" to seek.


VIDEO: What went wrong with SA's power supply? (Lateline)


At the time, Australian Energy Council chief executive Matthew Warren said the power station's closure meant the state would have less back-up energy available on days of peak demand.

He also said the state would have a greater reliance on renewable energy and on the interconnector from Victoria for base-load power.

"The reality for South Australians is that we're in uncharted waters," he said in May.

"There's an increased level of risk that we really haven't seen before anywhere in the world, so it doesn't mean we'll have more blackouts, hopefully if we're smart we can sort out solutions so power supply can be the same as usual, but it's an increased risk."

Did that impact Wednesday's event?
The Premier says no.

"This would have happened with the Port Augusta power station in place," he said.

"We have sufficient back-up baseload power.

"The interconnector is still up and running."

So, elements of the grid were knocked out by tornadoes, but the generation and backup were are still available when those elements are replaced. Not the generation but the grid that went down, caused by an extreme weather event. An ongoing one at that.

So Poor planning by the enviro wackos left the grid vulnerable to a catastrophic failure because they limited themselves to very narrow power sources..

POOR PLANNING AND POOR ENGINEERING using a sub standard power source...

You crack me up Old Fraud.. You cant even be honest with yourself when you post up the facts showing it was all fucked up by your idiots..

Your Cranial Anal Thrust Syndrome is looking for its head...

 

[Old Rocks]

Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world (part 2)
POSTED DEC 27 2013 BY EDVARD IN SMART GRID, TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION WITH 0 COMMENTS

Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world, part 2 (on photo: Aug. 14, 2003 file photo, cars try to navigate their way through New York City during a blackout that hit U.S. and Canadian cities; via news.nationalpost.com)

Continued from first part: Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world (part 1)


A Breakdown of Major Grid Failures by Cause (cont.)
Table II – A Breakdown of Major Grid Failures by Cause

Main Causes US & Canada Europe International
Snow Storm 13 fails 3 fails 3 fails
Summer Storms 11 fails 2 fails 1 fail
Hurricane 8 fails None None
High Winds 8 fails 1 fail 3 fails
Unknown 3 fails 8 fails 11 fails
Substation 3 fails 2 fails 7 fails
Transmission Line Failures 3 fails 2 fails 4 fails
Lightning strike 2 fails None None
Heat wave 2 fails 2 fails 3 fails
Other 4 fails 7 fails 12 fails
Total: 57 fails 27 fails 44 fails
On the International side, about 1/5 of the power outages (9 of 44) were not given a cause in the reports. A similar problem exists for Europe.

Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world (part 2) | EEP

Are you going to try to blame all of these on green energy? Note that extreme weather events are the principle cause of grid failures. Silly Billy, you continue to establish the standard for stupidity.

 

[Crick]

What a liar you are, Silly Billy

SA blackout: Why and how?

SA power outage: How did it happen?
Updated Wed at 7:09pm

PHOTO: A map on the SA Power Networks website shows outages across South Australia. (SA Power Networks)
RELATED STORY: 'Serious questions' as power cuts leave SA in chaos
RELATED STORY: Adelaide CBD power out as massive storm hits SA
RELATED STORY: As it happened: South Australia loses power as wild weather lashes state
MAP: SA
South Australia and its 1.7 million residents were left without power on Wednesday evening following severe storms.

So have recent events and a focus on renewable energy created the 'perfect storm' for a state-wide blackout?

First, what happened?
SA Premier Jay Weatherill confirmed two tornados destroyed three elements of critical infrastructure, which led to the power system protecting itself with a shutdown.

"Essentially what happened is a massive set of power was removed and when that happens it trips the system," he said in a press conference on Wednesday evening.

Earlier he told ABC radio in Adelaide the weather has caused damage to power infrastructure near Port Augusta.

"It appears there was a weather event that damaged infrastructure in the Port Augusta area. Energy generation assets remain intact. At this stage there does not seem to be any damage to the interconnector with Victoria," he said.

SA Power Networks' Paul Roberts said they were investigating whether a network shutdown as a protection was the cause.

"We believe — and this is only early information — that there may have been some issue with the interconnector but the state's power system is shut down I think possibly as a protection," he said.

"It means we're not receiving any electricity supply from generators to be able to supply to generators."

The state is powered by a mix of wind, solar and gas.

In May, Alinta's Northern power station at Port Augusta closed, which means coal has been cut out of the electricity equation.

Media player: "Space" to play, "M" to mute, "left" and "right" to seek.


VIDEO: What went wrong with SA's power supply? (Lateline)


At the time, Australian Energy Council chief executive Matthew Warren said the power station's closure meant the state would have less back-up energy available on days of peak demand.

He also said the state would have a greater reliance on renewable energy and on the interconnector from Victoria for base-load power.

"The reality for South Australians is that we're in uncharted waters," he said in May.

"There's an increased level of risk that we really haven't seen before anywhere in the world, so it doesn't mean we'll have more blackouts, hopefully if we're smart we can sort out solutions so power supply can be the same as usual, but it's an increased risk."

Did that impact Wednesday's event?
The Premier says no.

"This would have happened with the Port Augusta power station in place," he said.

"We have sufficient back-up baseload power.

"The interconnector is still up and running."

So, elements of the grid were knocked out by tornadoes, but the generation and backup were are still available when those elements are replaced. Not the generation but the grid that went down, caused by an extreme weather event. An ongoing one at that.

So Poor planning by the enviro wackos left the grid vulnerable to a catastrophic failure because they limited themselves to very narrow power sources..

POOR PLANNING AND POOR ENGINEERING using a sub standard power source...

You crack me up Old Fraud.. You cant even be honest with yourself when you post up the facts showing it was all fucked up by your idiots..

Your Cranial Anal Thrust Syndrome is looking for its head...

So Billy, you don't like being completely refuted and it makes you act like a spoiled child. Got it.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world (part 2)
POSTED DEC 27 2013 BY EDVARD IN SMART GRID, TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION WITH 0 COMMENTS

Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world, part 2 (on photo: Aug. 14, 2003 file photo, cars try to navigate their way through New York City during a blackout that hit U.S. and Canadian cities; via news.nationalpost.com)

Continued from first part: Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world (part 1)


A Breakdown of Major Grid Failures by Cause (cont.)
Table II – A Breakdown of Major Grid Failures by Cause

Main Causes US & Canada Europe International
Snow Storm 13 fails 3 fails 3 fails
Summer Storms 11 fails 2 fails 1 fail
Hurricane 8 fails None None
High Winds 8 fails 1 fail 3 fails
Unknown 3 fails 8 fails 11 fails
Substation 3 fails 2 fails 7 fails
Transmission Line Failures 3 fails 2 fails 4 fails
Lightning strike 2 fails None None
Heat wave 2 fails 2 fails 3 fails
Other 4 fails 7 fails 12 fails
Total: 57 fails 27 fails 44 fails
On the International side, about 1/5 of the power outages (9 of 44) were not given a cause in the reports. A similar problem exists for Europe.

Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world (part 2) | EEP

Are you going to try to blame all of these on green energy? Note that extreme weather events are the principle cause of grid failures. Silly Billy, you continue to establish the standard for stupidity.

Yep and every major area that fails is a liberal nightmare of cities where you have wasted the resources and failed to plan ahead...
You lying left wing sacks of shit..

 

[Crick]

Wasted what resources? Failed to plan for what? What lies do you believe he has told?

 

[Old Rocks]

Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world (part 2)
POSTED DEC 27 2013 BY EDVARD IN SMART GRID, TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION WITH 0 COMMENTS

Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world, part 2 (on photo: Aug. 14, 2003 file photo, cars try to navigate their way through New York City during a blackout that hit U.S. and Canadian cities; via news.nationalpost.com)

Continued from first part: Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world (part 1)


A Breakdown of Major Grid Failures by Cause (cont.)
Table II – A Breakdown of Major Grid Failures by Cause

Main Causes US & Canada Europe International
Snow Storm 13 fails 3 fails 3 fails
Summer Storms 11 fails 2 fails 1 fail
Hurricane 8 fails None None
High Winds 8 fails 1 fail 3 fails
Unknown 3 fails 8 fails 11 fails
Substation 3 fails 2 fails 7 fails
Transmission Line Failures 3 fails 2 fails 4 fails
Lightning strike 2 fails None None
Heat wave 2 fails 2 fails 3 fails
Other 4 fails 7 fails 12 fails
Total: 57 fails 27 fails 44 fails
On the International side, about 1/5 of the power outages (9 of 44) were not given a cause in the reports. A similar problem exists for Europe.

Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world (part 2) | EEP

Are you going to try to blame all of these on green energy? Note that extreme weather events are the principle cause of grid failures. Silly Billy, you continue to establish the standard for stupidity.

Yep and every major area that fails is a liberal nightmare of cities where you have wasted the resources and failed to plan ahead...
You lying left wing sacks of shit..

LOL Ol' Silly Billy's standard line of shit when he has had his ass completely kicked.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world (part 2)
POSTED DEC 27 2013 BY EDVARD IN SMART GRID, TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION WITH 0 COMMENTS

Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world, part 2 (on photo: Aug. 14, 2003 file photo, cars try to navigate their way through New York City during a blackout that hit U.S. and Canadian cities; via news.nationalpost.com)

Continued from first part: Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world (part 1)


A Breakdown of Major Grid Failures by Cause (cont.)
Table II – A Breakdown of Major Grid Failures by Cause

Main Causes US & Canada Europe International
Snow Storm 13 fails 3 fails 3 fails
Summer Storms 11 fails 2 fails 1 fail
Hurricane 8 fails None None
High Winds 8 fails 1 fail 3 fails
Unknown 3 fails 8 fails 11 fails
Substation 3 fails 2 fails 7 fails
Transmission Line Failures 3 fails 2 fails 4 fails
Lightning strike 2 fails None None
Heat wave 2 fails 2 fails 3 fails
Other 4 fails 7 fails 12 fails
Total: 57 fails 27 fails 44 fails
On the International side, about 1/5 of the power outages (9 of 44) were not given a cause in the reports. A similar problem exists for Europe.

Comparison of major grid failures in United States and around the world (part 2) | EEP

Are you going to try to blame all of these on green energy? Note that extreme weather events are the principle cause of grid failures. Silly Billy, you continue to establish the standard for stupidity.

Yep and every major area that fails is a liberal nightmare of cities where you have wasted the resources and failed to plan ahead...
You lying left wing sacks of shit..

LOL Ol' Silly Billy's standard line of shit when he has had his ass completely kicked.

Oh look.. another liar Old Rocks and his full of shit opinion...

South Australia’s wind energy crisis & state wide blackout were foreseeable – and foreseen

Poor old Fuck cant catch a break..

South Australia’s blackout apparently ‘triggered by the violent fluctuations from the Snowtown wind farms’

Funny; when the facts come out its always the alarmists that failed..

 

[IanC]

I have a relative with Down's Syndrome. He was hired to prepare salad ingredients for a local restaurant under heavy supervision and paid from govt subsides. He was a detriment to productivity, an expense to the taxpayers but the optics were good for public relations.

Solar and wind are the handicapped relatives of the energy field. They need subsides, constant supervision, replacement at critical times and are more public relations than stand alone productivity.

 

[Crick]

Only because you place no inherent value in power without CO2 emissions and choose to believe reports on those technologies from dubious sources.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Did you know you cant restart the grid with just wind energy? I didnt....most likely the residents didnt either.
The South Australian black out — A grid on the edge. There were warnings that renewables made it vulnerable « JoNova

 

[Billy_Bob]

Did you know you cant restart the grid with just wind energy? I didnt....most likely the residents didnt either.
The South Australian black out — A grid on the edge. There were warnings that renewables made it vulnerable « JoNova

Yes I knew this.. the base load must be taken on before you can apply wind or solar applications as the frequency matching must be made stable before you put on unreliable generators. That is why it has taken three days to restore the grid and have one other failure, by collapse, as they do not have the base load generation left to restart the grid.

Today there are calls to bring out of mothballs all three coal fired plants. I am surprised they finally got the grid restored without full base load generation capacity...no worries it will happen again real soon with just a wind storm, the grid is on the edge.

 

[Old Rocks]

Did you know you cant restart the grid with just wind energy? I didnt....most likely the residents didnt either.
The South Australian black out — A grid on the edge. There were warnings that renewables made it vulnerable « JoNova

Jo Nova is hardly a credible source.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Did you know you cant restart the grid with just wind energy? I didnt....most likely the residents didnt either.
The South Australian black out — A grid on the edge. There were warnings that renewables made it vulnerable « JoNova

Jo Nova is hardly a credible source.

Lame. Facts inconvenient