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1. Bad press only to those who disagree with the governor. I would guess most people agree. It's probably mostly GOOD press.Bad press, and businesses that pulled their business which has only begun it seems.This "clarification" is in effect a hidden apology for being a tool of Right wing religion mongers with "attitude" ...guess what Governor Pence you severely damaged your state economy in order to maneuver yourself for Presidential aspirations by getting wing nut creds...its too late to apologize ...its too late ...
How did he damage his state economy ?
It was the ignorance and hate that you and others on the right exhibited toward gay Americans that invalidated the measures intended to discriminate against gays.It should be welcome and Indiana authorities should see to it that it is respected and adhered to. How did we even get to a point where discrimination against queers is somehow thought of a anything other than a necessary thing ?Backlash Continues: Angie's List Cancels Indiana Expansion
First Yelp, and now Angie's List is making clear that it is "hugely disappointed" by Indiana's discrimination law, signed this week by Republican governor Mike Pence. The web service for reviewing businesses announced today that it has yanked an Indianapolis expansion project from city-county council consideration. The company said it had been just days from breaking ground on the project.
"We are putting the 'Ford Building Project' on hold until we fully understand the implications of the freedom restoration act on our employees, both current and future," said Angie's List CEO Bill Oesterle in a statement. "Angie's List is open to all and discriminates against none and we are hugely disappointed in what this bill represents."
The chairman of Yelp, a competing business review site, had earlier condemned the Indiana law, which among other effects will let business owners refuse service to LGBT customers by claiming it offends their religious beliefs.
"What is happening in Indiana is pretty unbelievable," wrote Max Levchin, who also co-founded PayPal, on Twitter. "However it’s dressed up, it’s a signal that discrimination is welcome in this state."
Don't be ridiculous. Discrimination against people who are deemed to be harmful is legal, and rampant all over society right now, and always has been. Discrimination against people with criminal records, poor credit records, certain health issues, etc. is standard procedure.Which will thankfully never occur, as this would clearly violate the 14th Amendment.Discrimination against queers should not only be authorized, it should be mandatory, in many cases (teachers, military, police, coaching, counseling, massage, doctors, etc)[
No one is obsessing over this law, except the left. The law is basically a duplicate of the federal RFRA, does not authorize discrimination, but offers a defense, as with the federal RFRA.
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Wow, dumbass. You can't comprehend that giving someone a legal defense of their discriminatory acts is exactly the same as authorizing discrimination?
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When you get up the balls to take my Islamization Quiz, and get a 70% grade or better, THEN you can be absolved of carrying the "ignorance" label yourself. As for hate, there is nothing wrong with hating things that are harmful to people (especially children)), and everything right with it. It is those who don't hate harm, and allow it, who are the problem.It was the ignorance and hate that you and others on the right exhibited toward gay Americans that invalidated the measures intended to discriminate against gays.It should be welcome and Indiana authorities should see to it that it is respected and adhered to. How did we even get to a point where discrimination against queers is somehow thought of a anything other than a necessary thing ?Backlash Continues: Angie's List Cancels Indiana Expansion
First Yelp, and now Angie's List is making clear that it is "hugely disappointed" by Indiana's discrimination law, signed this week by Republican governor Mike Pence. The web service for reviewing businesses announced today that it has yanked an Indianapolis expansion project from city-county council consideration. The company said it had been just days from breaking ground on the project.
"We are putting the 'Ford Building Project' on hold until we fully understand the implications of the freedom restoration act on our employees, both current and future," said Angie's List CEO Bill Oesterle in a statement. "Angie's List is open to all and discriminates against none and we are hugely disappointed in what this bill represents."
The chairman of Yelp, a competing business review site, had earlier condemned the Indiana law, which among other effects will let business owners refuse service to LGBT customers by claiming it offends their religious beliefs.
"What is happening in Indiana is pretty unbelievable," wrote Max Levchin, who also co-founded PayPal, on Twitter. "However it’s dressed up, it’s a signal that discrimination is welcome in this state."
Well done.
The press is ugly, and businesses are either not coming, or not expanding. That is bad business. Look it up.1. Bad press only to those who disagree with the governor. I would guess most people agree. It's probably mostly GOOD press.Bad press, and businesses that pulled their business which has only begun it seems.This "clarification" is in effect a hidden apology for being a tool of Right wing religion mongers with "attitude" ...guess what Governor Pence you severely damaged your state economy in order to maneuver yourself for Presidential aspirations by getting wing nut creds...its too late to apologize ...its too late ...
How did he damage his state economy ?
2. Pull their business ? What does that mean ? Could you be more specific ? They will do what ?
Meanwhile Obama as a State Senator voted for JUST such a law in his home State.Yea this law won't last. America has a long history of defeating enemies of freedom. This time won't be any different.
Nothing happening to any significant degree. Maybe Indiana will GAIN businesses from all those who will move into the state, for the freedom of doing business as they see fit. I learned a long time ago to not put too much emphasis on the press. They get things wrong . Remember "Hands Up! Don't Shoot!" ?The press is ugly, and businesses are either not coming, or not expanding. That is bad business. Look it up.1. Bad press only to those who disagree with the governor. I would guess most people agree. It's probably mostly GOOD press.Bad press, and businesses that pulled their business which has only begun it seems.This "clarification" is in effect a hidden apology for being a tool of Right wing religion mongers with "attitude" ...guess what Governor Pence you severely damaged your state economy in order to maneuver yourself for Presidential aspirations by getting wing nut creds...its too late to apologize ...its too late ...
How did he damage his state economy ?
2. Pull their business ? What does that mean ? Could you be more specific ? They will do what ?
If that's the case, the law WILL stand. The "enemies of freedom" are the protestors, protesting against businesses having the freedom to run their businesses how they choose to.Yea this law won't last. America has a long history of defeating enemies of freedom. This time won't be any different.
What in the world are you talking about ? Why would there not be an NCAA final four or Super Bowl in Indy ? That is bizarre. And I don't see them losing one net dime.There probably won't be another NCAA final four or Super Bowl scheduled in Indy until the law is repealed. Same stuff happened in AZ with the MLK holiday. Silly reason to lose tens of millions of dollars of income....to make a bunch of homophobes feel more secure.
Step in front of a fast moving bus. You're a waste of oxygenSo what ? Anti-LGBT discrimination SHOULD be legal. What's more it should be the law that discrimination against queers should be required, in cases where the sex perversion could be harmful to people, especially children.Fox News Dishonest Defense Of Indiana s Anti-LGBT Religious Freedom Law Blog Media Matters for America
Unlike the federal RFRA, Indiana's RFRA contains an extremely broad definition of "person" that includes organizations, corporations, or companies that are: "compelled or limited by a system of religious belief held by an individual or the individuals; who have control and substantial ownership of the entity, regardless of whether the entity is organized and operated for profit or nonprofit purposes."
As Buzzfeed also reported:
The Indiana bill is broader than federal law. While the Indiana bill says that a "governmental entity may not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion," it also applies those rules to businesses and interactions between private parties "regardless of whether the state or any other government entity is party to the proceeding."
Portraying Indiana's RFRA as benign legislation identical to the "bipartisan" federal law isn't just inaccurate journalism. It is a part of Fox's larger role in promoting the narrative of Christian persecution to support the passage of a number of state RFRAs now being considered in states across the country. Expect to see Fox continue to misrepresent RFRA as a harmless law protecting "religious liberty" while ignoring the fact that these bills are actually the product of powerful anti-LGBT organizations lobbying to legalize anti-LGBT discrimination.
Lamda Legal is an idiot organization. The subtitle on their website reads "making the case for equality"Lambda Legal attorney Jenny Pizer explains why Pence lied when he said the Indiana "religious freedom" law isn't about discrimination. (Note: this may not be sexy stuff, but it's important.)
Here's Pizer:
Gov. Pence, in his signing statement, said, "This bill is not about discrimination, and if I thought it legalized discrimination in any way in Indiana, I would have vetoed it. In fact, it does not even apply to disputes between private parties unless government action is involved." First, Pizer refutes the Pence's discrimination claim.
If this new law does not seek to facilitate discrimination, why did legislators pressing for its passage say it’s “needed” to allow businesses to turn away same-sex couples? And why did a majority of Indiana legislators then reject amendments offered to specify that these enhanced religious rights cannot be used to excuse discrimination? Second, Pizer explains that Indiana's new Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) will allow individuals to defend themselves in court against other individuals who might sue them for discrimination. This is new. The old RFRAs did not apply to private disputes. They were meant to keep the government from infringing on an individual's religious beliefs.
Further, about disputes between private parties, the law says explicitly, “A person whose exercise of religion has been substantially burdened, or is likely to be substantially burdened, by a violation of this chapter may assert the violation or impending violation as a claim or defense in a judicial or administrative proceeding, regardless of whether the state or any other governmental entity is a party to the proceeding.” This language was included to allow private parties to object to following a law that otherwise would apply to them, and to assert these expanded religious rights in a dispute with another private party.
You're a waste of perfectly good thread post. Where did you get that oh so cool insult ? From you local 4th grade class ? Come back when you can think of something substantial to say.Step in front of a fast moving bus. You're a waste of oxygenSo what ? Anti-LGBT discrimination SHOULD be legal. What's more it should be the law that discrimination against queers should be required, in cases where the sex perversion could be harmful to people, especially children.Fox News Dishonest Defense Of Indiana s Anti-LGBT Religious Freedom Law Blog Media Matters for America
Unlike the federal RFRA, Indiana's RFRA contains an extremely broad definition of "person" that includes organizations, corporations, or companies that are: "compelled or limited by a system of religious belief held by an individual or the individuals; who have control and substantial ownership of the entity, regardless of whether the entity is organized and operated for profit or nonprofit purposes."
As Buzzfeed also reported:
The Indiana bill is broader than federal law. While the Indiana bill says that a "governmental entity may not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion," it also applies those rules to businesses and interactions between private parties "regardless of whether the state or any other government entity is party to the proceeding."
Portraying Indiana's RFRA as benign legislation identical to the "bipartisan" federal law isn't just inaccurate journalism. It is a part of Fox's larger role in promoting the narrative of Christian persecution to support the passage of a number of state RFRAs now being considered in states across the country. Expect to see Fox continue to misrepresent RFRA as a harmless law protecting "religious liberty" while ignoring the fact that these bills are actually the product of powerful anti-LGBT organizations lobbying to legalize anti-LGBT discrimination.
If someone like you is normal who would want to be normal...? I think fundamental Christians are "nut bags"
EARTH TO LL: Queers are NOT equal. Sex perverts are not equal to normal people.
EARTH TO LL: Queers are NOT equal. Sex perverts are not equal to normal people.
It isn't about the homosexuals it Is about the Christians. Destroying the church is the utmost important thing for progressivesIf I were hosting a seminar on the health risks of homosexual conduct, and I walked into a print shop to have them print up some booklets to hand out at the seminar, and the printer happened to be gay and told me he did not want to print what he considered to be "anti-gay propaganda," I would simply thank him for his time and go find another printer. I would never dream of suing him or otherwise trying to get him in trouble. I would respect his beliefs and feelings, even though I found them absurd.
Why can't gays show the same tolerance and respect for religious vendors who find gay marriage offensive?
This is *not* the same thing as refusing to serve someone a meal at your restaurant or refusing a couple a hotel room at your hotel. Food, lodging, auto repair, home repair, things like that, can be viewed as "basic" needs that any vendor should be willing to provide, regardless of race, lifestyle, creed, etc.
It isn't about the homosexuals it Is about the Christians. Destroying the church is the utmost important thing for progressives
Coming from a progressive crying that there is a law to protect citizens from fascist government? That is rich.It isn't about the homosexuals it Is about the Christians. Destroying the church is the utmost important thing for progressives
