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Funny how some people fail to understand how illegal immigration drives down wages, but then again if health, education, and public assistance, are guaranteed then one can work for less, and expand the ranks of underemployed to your advantage.
Obamna claims to hate colonialism for the simple fact that it takes resources from one country for the benefit of another and yet he subscribes to the destruction of the wage earner (resource of this country) by providing open un controlled boarders and undocumented voting rights to everyone for political power. When one belittles the unemployed and in essence treats the legal American worker as resource he is in fact promoting the concept of colonialism by replacing raw material for human labor.
Im fine with the idea that illegals are denied the right to vote for a period of time, say until all fines are paid etc etc.
However, we allow convicts to vote, denying someone and their children the right to vote forever because youre worried about who they will vote for is totally unacceptable. I can't believe we are actually discussing it.
The GOP's Presidential election defeat is opening up a debate in the party, with more than a few voices saying they are willing to rethink their views on immigration. This is good news, which means it's also a good moment to address some of the frequent claims from the anti-immigration right that simply aren't true, especially about Hispanics.
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Equally specious is the argument that Latino immigrants come here, often illegally, to "steal" jobs or to go on the dole. If illegal aliens are displacing natives in the labor force, why was there more immigration and less unemployment under President Bush? And if foreign nationals are primarily attracted to our welfare state, how to explain the fact that low-income immigrants are less likely to be receiving public benefits than low-income natives?
Illegal aliens aren't eligible for Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and other federal entitlements. But even those low-income immigrants who are eligible for public assistance sign up at lower rates than their native counterparts. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers food stamps, noncitizens who qualify are significantly less likely than citizens to participate.
Over the past decade, the states experiencing the fastest immigrant population growth have not been traditional gateways like New York and California. Latino newcomers have been flocking to Arkansas, Tennessee, Utah, Alabama, Mississippi, Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska and the Carolinasstates that are among the stingiest for public benefits. ...
Polls regularly show that immigration is not a priority for Hispanic voters, but how border policy is discussed still matters as a threshold and symbolic issue. When Republican Presidential candidates are preoccupied with putting up an electrified fence along the Rio Grande and blaming Latinos (wrongly) for driving up crime, unemployment and health-care costs, we are a long way from Ronald Reagan's welcoming GOP. ...
Hispanic growth in the U.S. isn't being driven by newcomers but by birthrates among those already here. Talk radio hosts could declare the borders closed today to all Mexicans, South Koreans, Indians and any other foreigner, and the voting share of these ethnic groups would increase for decades. Short of deportation, or "self-deportation" as Mr. Romney put it, the minority share of the electorate is going to rise inexorably.
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Review & Outlook: Immigrants and the GOP - WSJ.com
And we should be surprised why? The Republican Party has done nothing other than to demonize these people. They are here to stay whether we like it or not. We better find a way to make certain they have all the same opportunities as White America. Whites just don't get it; the vast majority of Whites have a very big advantage from birth over minorities. Those are just the facts. If you think being born Black or Hispanic to welfare parents gives you the same chance at success as the White child born to middle class parents living in the suburbs, you're off your rocker.
No.
Seriously, no.
Luckily I don't think any lawmaker would write a bill that denied citizens the right to vote, because their parents came here illegally. It's totally unacceptable and abhorrent to everything American.
No.
Seriously, no.
Luckily I don't think any lawmaker would write a bill that denied citizens the right to vote, because their parents came here illegally. It's totally unacceptable and abhorrent to everything American.
No.
Seriously, no.
Luckily I don't think any lawmaker would write a bill that denied citizens the right to vote, because their parents came here illegally. It's totally unacceptable and abhorrent to everything American.
Only if the child was born here while their parents were illegal (thus making the child illegal so the same would apply to them, no voting). Of course, they'd have to change anchor baby status, which will never happen. Oh what am I saying? None of this would ever happen because then the pols lose a huge voting block.
Democrats will want amnesty and immigrant rights right up until the immigrants start putting their own people into office and put a screeching halt on what democrats want.
No.
Seriously, no.
Luckily I don't think any lawmaker would write a bill that denied citizens the right to vote, because their parents came here illegally. It's totally unacceptable and abhorrent to everything American.
Only if the child was born here while their parents were illegal (thus making the child illegal so the same would apply to them, no voting). Of course, they'd have to change anchor baby status, which will never happen. Oh what am I saying? None of this would ever happen because then the pols lose a huge voting block.
No.
Seriously, no.
Luckily I don't think any lawmaker would write a bill that denied citizens the right to vote, because their parents came here illegally. It's totally unacceptable and abhorrent to everything American.
Only if the child was born here while their parents were illegal (thus making the child illegal so the same would apply to them, no voting). Of course, they'd have to change anchor baby status, which will never happen. Oh what am I saying? None of this would ever happen because then the pols lose a huge voting block.
if the child is born here, the child is not illegal, but is a citizen.
If they were born here, they aren't illegal, they are American citizens. Denying them a lifetime of having a voice in their country and their government, is totally unacceptable.
I wouldnt be opposed to changing the law that says if you're born here, youre American.If they were born here, they aren't illegal, they are American citizens. Denying them a lifetime of having a voice in their country and their government, is totally unacceptable.
If they were born here to illegal parents they should be considered illegal as well.
If they were born here, they aren't illegal, they are American citizens. Denying them a lifetime of having a voice in their country and their government, is totally unacceptable.
If they were born here to illegal parents they should be considered illegal as well.
Yup, they're denying something that's standing right in their face. Then they wonder what happened on November 6. You can't begin to deal with a problem until you can admit the problem exists.
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What do you support regarding the democrat position on illegal immigration? Can you tell me what the democrat position is?
Third time is a charm...
They're much looser on immigration, going so far as to create "sanctuary cities" in the face of current law.
Which, if the GOP were in its right mind, would create a clear opening to come up with a more sensible, moderate plan. Unfortunately, the GOP is currently paralyzed by its inexplicable adherence to absolutist dogma. In other words, the party is currently not in its right mind. "Right", no pun intended.
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Yup, they're denying something that's standing right in their face. Then they wonder what happened on November 6. You can't begin to deal with a problem until you can admit the problem exists.
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What do you support regarding the democrat position on illegal immigration? Can you tell me what the democrat position is?
Third time is a charm...
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what on earth does that even mean??
What do you support regarding the democrat position on illegal immigration? Can you tell me what the democrat position is?
Third time is a charm...
They're much looser on immigration, going so far as to create "sanctuary cities" in the face of current law.
Which, if the GOP were in its right mind, would create a clear opening to come up with a more sensible, moderate plan. Unfortunately, the GOP is currently paralyzed by its inexplicable adherence to absolutist dogma. In other words, the party is currently not in its right mind. "Right", no pun intended.
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Neither the Democrats in the congress, nor the Democrat President would support any sensible, moderate plan, nor is it likely that either the President or the Democrats in congress will introduce any sensible, moderate plan that Republicans could sign on to.
The Democrat party does not want any solution to the illegal immigration policy because it would eliminate the issue they count on to keep the hispanic vote.
Obama promised Hispanics that he would introduce an immigration reform bill in his first term. He didn't. He has promised them that he will introduce an immigration reform bill in this term. Want to take odds that he does so?
