GOP to introduce more tax cuts

[Toro]

The US takes in nearly 4 trillion dollars. Might be 4 trillion given the current economy.

So, we have spenditures of Defense Department, State Department, Veterans Affairs, Justice Department, and the cost of the three branches of govenment, leg, jud,exe.

That is roughly 811.1 billion dollars.

Put Social Security and Medicare into separate budgets AWAY from the Federal budget and use ONLY the reciepts they get from taxes to pay out with.

That means we can apply 3 trillion per year to the debt, or we can cut...say...a smooth 1.5 trllion in taxes and still manage to put 1.5 trillion a year toward the debt.

Will only take 100 years if income remains at current levels. Likely to go way up over that 100 years, making the debt decrease exponentially.

Your math is wrong.

In what way? I see us running a huge surplus. Just pay for those government functions we need and are actually required for the Federal Government to meet its obligations to the people.

Be our representative to the world.

Clearly, 75% of the government is unnecessary.

In receipts. We wouldn’t have money to pay down the debt as you claim.

75% of the federal budget is military, Medicare and SS.

3.654 Trillion dollars was the receipts for 2017.

Department of defense budget is 574 billion.

My math has that as 15.7% of total income.

Hardly 75% of a 4 trillion dollar budget.

a budget of 4.094 trillion makes the DoD budget only 14% of the total budget.

ETA.....Ah, I see what you are saying. Total reciepts include social security and medicare which would be put in its own box and not on budge.

Okay. So, we'd have room for abbout a half trillion dollar tax cut.

We will increase the deficit if we cut taxes further assuming we don’t cut spending.

 

[Skull Pilot]

House Republicans propose more tax cuts as elections near

Go ahead house dems vote against making those tax cuts for the middle class permanent...I dare ya!

Politics aside .

Why the hell would you add more and more tax cuts during boom times when you have a giant deficit?

Well Timothy it's like this.
More tax cuts means more business expansion and more spending by the general public which increases taxes taken in by the gov.
As the old saying goes...You cant tax your way into prosperity.

The Economy is expanding without tax cuts . Now would’ve been the best time to try and cut down the debt .

Trump wasted that tax cut card . You’d do better to wait when the Economy stalled , then use cuts to spur things .

Funny how you didn't care about debt when a democrat was president

No one cares about the debt and that includes you

 

[Skull Pilot]

And no one cares

They care depending upon who is sitting in the White House


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Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

When was the last time any administration paid down any debt?

No one cares about the debt

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE DEBT

the evidence is all around you stop denying it.

Bill Clinton, with a republican Congress holding his feet to the fire to do it! Why did the not hold Dubya's or Rump's feet to that same fire?

FYI Bill Clinton did not pay down the debt but he did add 1.4 trillion to it which was a 32% increase over what the debt was when his term began

Don't make the rookie mistake of confusing deficits with debt

Which President Increased U.S. Debt the Most?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

They care depending upon who is sitting in the White House


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Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

When was the last time any administration paid down any debt?

No one cares about the debt

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE DEBT

the evidence is all around you stop denying it.

Bill Clinton, with a republican Congress holding his feet to the fire to do it! Why did the not hold Dubya's or Rump's feet to that same fire?

FYI Bill Clinton did not pay down the debt but he did add 1.4 trillion to it which was a 32% increase over what the debt was when his term began

Don't make the rookie mistake of confusing deficits with debt

Which President Increased U.S. Debt the Most?

In my life time, the Dem presidents have added less of a percent to the debt than Reagan did all by himself.

162% vs 186% from Reagan.

All total

Ds - 162%
Rs - 388%.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

When was the last time any administration paid down any debt?

No one cares about the debt

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE DEBT

the evidence is all around you stop denying it.

Bill Clinton, with a republican Congress holding his feet to the fire to do it! Why did the not hold Dubya's or Rump's feet to that same fire?

FYI Bill Clinton did not pay down the debt but he did add 1.4 trillion to it which was a 32% increase over what the debt was when his term began

Don't make the rookie mistake of confusing deficits with debt

Which President Increased U.S. Debt the Most?

In my life time, the Dem presidents have added less of a percent to the debt than Reagan did all by himself.

162% vs 186% from Reagan.

All total

Ds - 162%
Rs - 388%.

And BOTH have increased the debt, ergo neither party gives a flying or any other kind of fuck about the debt

If you vote for a dem or a repub you are voting to increase the debt.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

When was the last time any administration paid down any debt?

No one cares about the debt

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE DEBT

the evidence is all around you stop denying it.

Bill Clinton, with a republican Congress holding his feet to the fire to do it! Why did the not hold Dubya's or Rump's feet to that same fire?

FYI Bill Clinton did not pay down the debt but he did add 1.4 trillion to it which was a 32% increase over what the debt was when his term began

Don't make the rookie mistake of confusing deficits with debt

Which President Increased U.S. Debt the Most?

In my life time, the Dem presidents have added less of a percent to the debt than Reagan did all by himself.

162% vs 186% from Reagan.

All total

Ds - 162%
Rs - 388%.

And BOTH have increased the debt, ergo neither party gives a flying or any other kind of fuck about the debt

If you vote for a dem or a repub you are voting to increase the debt.

That is why the last time I voted for either was in 1992.

 

[Richard-H]

And deficits have gotten worse.

And no one cares

They care depending upon who is sitting in the White House


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Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

When was the last time any administration paid down any debt?

No one cares about the debt

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE DEBT

the evidence is all around you stop denying it.

Redirect Notice

 

[Richard-H]

And deficits have gotten worse.

And no one cares

They care depending upon who is sitting in the White House


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Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

Let’s privatize social security then. Why’s the left against that?

Why don't we just give the entire Social Security fund to the wealthiest 1%?

It would save a lot of time and red tape!

 

[Richard-H]

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

When was the last time any administration paid down any debt?

No one cares about the debt

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE DEBT

the evidence is all around you stop denying it.

Bill Clinton, with a republican Congress holding his feet to the fire to do it! Why did the not hold Dubya's or Rump's feet to that same fire?

FYI Bill Clinton did not pay down the debt but he did add 1.4 trillion to it which was a 32% increase over what the debt was when his term began

Don't make the rookie mistake of confusing deficits with debt

Which President Increased U.S. Debt the Most?

In my life time, the Dem presidents have added less of a percent to the debt than Reagan did all by himself.

162% vs 186% from Reagan.

All total

Ds - 162%
Rs - 388%.

And BOTH have increased the debt, ergo neither party gives a flying or any other kind of fuck about the debt

If you vote for a dem or a repub you are voting to increase the debt.

The government should be willing to increase the debt during economic down turns.

It's failure to reduce the debt during economic booms that's causing a continued problem.

Many Presidents have reduced the debt. The debt was low enough during the Kennedy administration that he reduced taxes - the way it should be done.

Bush screwed up and now the GOP is screwing up again.

 

[Skull Pilot]

And no one cares

They care depending upon who is sitting in the White House


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

When was the last time any administration paid down any debt?

No one cares about the debt

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE DEBT

the evidence is all around you stop denying it.

Redirect Notice

Meaningless

Every president that has served fo the last 70 years or more regardless of party had added to the debt

If you vote republican or democrat you are voting to increase the debt

ergo you do not give a shit about the debt

 

[Skull Pilot]

When was the last time any administration paid down any debt?

No one cares about the debt

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE DEBT

the evidence is all around you stop denying it.

Bill Clinton, with a republican Congress holding his feet to the fire to do it! Why did the not hold Dubya's or Rump's feet to that same fire?

FYI Bill Clinton did not pay down the debt but he did add 1.4 trillion to it which was a 32% increase over what the debt was when his term began

Don't make the rookie mistake of confusing deficits with debt

Which President Increased U.S. Debt the Most?

In my life time, the Dem presidents have added less of a percent to the debt than Reagan did all by himself.

162% vs 186% from Reagan.

All total

Ds - 162%
Rs - 388%.

And BOTH have increased the debt, ergo neither party gives a flying or any other kind of fuck about the debt

If you vote for a dem or a repub you are voting to increase the debt.

The government should be willing to increase the debt during economic down turns.

It's failure to reduce the debt during economic booms that's causing a continued problem.

Many Presidents have reduced the debt. The debt was low enough during the Kennedy administration that he reduced taxes - the way it should be done.

Bush screwed up and now the GOP is screwing up again.

Who has reduced the debt?

FYI that means who had a lower principle balance for the debt when they left office than they had when they took office

Do not confuse deficit with debt

 

[jc456]

And no one cares

They care depending upon who is sitting in the White House


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Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

Let’s privatize social security then. Why’s the left against that?

Why don't we just give the entire Social Security fund to the wealthiest 1%?

It would save a lot of time and red tape!

why would we do that? why do you hate the 1% so much btw?

 

[Richard-H]

They care depending upon who is sitting in the White House


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Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

When was the last time any administration paid down any debt?

No one cares about the debt

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE DEBT

the evidence is all around you stop denying it.

Redirect Notice

Meaningless

Every president that has served fo the last 70 years or more regardless of party had added to the debt

If you vote republican or democrat you are voting to increase the debt

ergo you do not give a shit about the debt

Link?

 

[jc456]

Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

When was the last time any administration paid down any debt?

No one cares about the debt

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE DEBT

the evidence is all around you stop denying it.

Redirect Notice

Meaningless

Every president that has served fo the last 70 years or more regardless of party had added to the debt

If you vote republican or democrat you are voting to increase the debt

ergo you do not give a shit about the debt

Link?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

When was the last time any administration paid down any debt?

No one cares about the debt

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE DEBT

the evidence is all around you stop denying it.

Redirect Notice

Meaningless

Every president that has served fo the last 70 years or more regardless of party had added to the debt

If you vote republican or democrat you are voting to increase the debt

ergo you do not give a shit about the debt

Link?

Which President Increased U.S. Debt the Most?

Coolidge was the last president to subtract from the national debt

Every president since Coolidge has added to it

 

[Richard-H]

They care depending upon who is sitting in the White House


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Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

Let’s privatize social security then. Why’s the left against that?

Why don't we just give the entire Social Security fund to the wealthiest 1%?

It would save a lot of time and red tape!

why would we do that? why do you hate the 1% so much btw?

I don't hate the 1%. If anything I blame the 99% for being a bunch of dumb asses that allow the 1% to get almost all the wealth.

As far as I know any plan for privatizing social security would be almost exactly the same as our current 401k plans.

401ks are just a mechanism for shifting wealth from working people into the pockets of the wealthiest.

Based on the law of supply and demand, and given the hundreds of billions of dollars that are poured into the stock market every week, the stock market should be steadily going up - all else should be insignificant. There should be very little market volatility.

Market volatility is the mechanism for shifting the wealth.

But as long as working people see some small increase in their wealth - most of the time - they are content.

One of the many reasons I think that most working people are dumb asses.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

Let’s privatize social security then. Why’s the left against that?

Why don't we just give the entire Social Security fund to the wealthiest 1%?

It would save a lot of time and red tape!

why would we do that? why do you hate the 1% so much btw?

I don't hate the 1%. If anything I blame the 99% for being a bunch of dumb asses that allow the 1% to get almost all the wealth.

As far as I know any plan for privatizing social security would be almost exactly the same as our current 401k plans.

401ks are just a mechanism for shifting wealth from working people into the pockets of the wealthiest.

Based on the law of supply and demand, and given the hundreds of billions of dollars that are poured into the stock market every week, the stock market should be steadily going up - all else should be insignificant. There should be very little market volatility.

Market volatility is the mechanism for shifting the wealth.

But as long as working people see some small increase in their wealth - most of the time - they are content.

One of the many reasons I think that most working people are dumb asses.

YEah because getting 1 or 2% return on T Bills is so much better

 

[jc456]

Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

Let’s privatize social security then. Why’s the left against that?

Why don't we just give the entire Social Security fund to the wealthiest 1%?

It would save a lot of time and red tape!

why would we do that? why do you hate the 1% so much btw?

I don't hate the 1%. If anything I blame the 99% for being a bunch of dumb asses that allow the 1% to get almost all the wealth.

As far as I know any plan for privatizing social security would be almost exactly the same as our current 401k plans.

401ks are just a mechanism for shifting wealth from working people into the pockets of the wealthiest.

Based on the law of supply and demand, and given the hundreds of billions of dollars that are poured into the stock market every week, the stock market should be steadily going up - all else should be insignificant. There should be very little market volatility.

Market volatility is the mechanism for shifting the wealth.

But as long as working people see some small increase in their wealth - most of the time - they are content.

One of the many reasons I think that most working people are dumb asses.

so you're against investing millions of dollars to make millions of dollars to keep funding SS because you dislike wealthy people? Tell me how that makes wealthy people more wealthy if their money is what is actually added to the millions invested?

It seems you're against making money. what a fool.

And I see you don't work. so you are a lazy fk that steals our money.

 

[Aldo Raine]

They care depending upon who is sitting in the White House


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Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

When was the last time any administration paid down any debt?

No one cares about the debt

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE DEBT

the evidence is all around you stop denying it.

Bill Clinton, with a republican Congress holding his feet to the fire to do it! Why did the not hold Dubya's or Rump's feet to that same fire?

FYI Bill Clinton did not pay down the debt but he did add 1.4 trillion to it which was a 32% increase over what the debt was when his term began

Don't make the rookie mistake of confusing deficits with debt

Which President Increased U.S. Debt the Most?

If you are talking over his.whole term, absolutely he did. But by the end of his time in office they can small.surpluses.for fiscal years. But I agree, neither party cards once.they are in.power!

 

[dudmuck]

They care depending upon who is sitting in the White House


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Dems only care about republ debt
Repubs only care about dem debt

Not one single voter that votes for dems or repubs cares about the debt

Keynesian theory is that the government should go into debt and increase spending during a weak economy. But when the economy picks up - and especially when it booms - the government should first pay down the debt and the once the deficit is under control, lower taxes.

During the 2008 recession, government spending and a willingness to increase government debt was the right thing to do. However, during GW Bushes first term - when there was a surplus, and now that we're in an economic boom, the government should pay down it's debt first and lower taxes later.

The GOP keeps screwing up this simple formula.

When was the last time any administration paid down any debt?

No one cares about the debt

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE DEBT

the evidence is all around you stop denying it.

Bill Clinton, with a republican Congress holding his feet to the fire to do it! Why did the not hold Dubya's or Rump's feet to that same fire?

FYI Bill Clinton did not pay down the debt but he did add 1.4 trillion to it which was a 32% increase over what the debt was when his term began

Don't make the rookie mistake of confusing deficits with debt

Which President Increased U.S. Debt the Most?

Thats absurd. Congress creates the budget using an appropriations process.