GOP establishment has abandoned the base.

[BULLDOG]

The GOP establishment ran 40,000 ads in the 2014 election promising to defund Obamacare and Obama's executive amnesty then the first thing they did after the election was fund both of them. They are liars, its possible they are worse liars than Obama.

They have since stymied nearly every conservative amendment and cause. They throw in with Democrats and shit on conservatives pretty frequently. They mock us and bad mouth us. Yet without us they would not be in power.

So why vote for them? Just because Democrats are worse? I'm not sure that's a good enough reason anymore.

Yes, why I left the party in 1990. They have repeated that formula many times. There was W getting the first Republican Congress and Senate in my lifetime and gong on a spending orgy. At this point I wonder how any Republican can say with a straight face they think Republicans are different than Democrats. Or vice versa as Obama like Clinton said we overused our military while continuing their predecessors strategy. The Republicans and Democrats are frick and frack, Tweedledum and Tweedledee, the Wrigley Gum twins, same thing, different day

The country is headed for financial disaster with no signs of changing course. This borrowing $18 trillion dollars to live high on the hog and sticking future generations with our bills sickens me. I think future generations stuck with the $50 trillion dollar debt will look back and say man, those people were real assholes.

I know. The assholes that took a budget surplus and turned it into a crashed economy that will take almost forever to recover from shouldn't be let back into office until they show that they don't want to continue those same failed policies. That's why we elected Obama, to try to straiten out some of those things. It's also why none of the clowns in the clown car have a chance.

Rrriiiigggghhhttttttt, it was only one party who did that, not yours. While the two of you pursue the same tax and spend militaristic policies, your shit doesn't stink. It's all their fault. Everything. So a question. Does the kool-aid give you a buzz, or is it more of a numbing sensation?

I never said either party is blameless. Just that the right has lost it's mind.

 

[JoshuaZ]

That is the biggest reason they are going to lose big in 2016. Yes, once again talk radio will rally behind the rubio/bush cabal and blather how essential it is to defeat hillary. Meanwhile, the base of the party is finding it has no representation in govt.

Can you clarify what you mean by lose big in terms of popular vote or electoral vote?

 

[whitehall]

You have to define the GOP base before you make the quantum leap that the GOP has abandoned it. So far the republican majority in congress is doing a pretty good job identifying about a hundred scandals in the Hussein administration and holding taxes down while keeping Americans secure from another terrorist attack and preserving the 2nd Amendment. Was there something else about the "base"?

 

[BluesLegend]

The GOP establishment ran 40,000 ads in the 2014 election promising to defund Obamacare and Obama's executive amnesty then the first thing they did after the election was fund both of them. They are liars, its possible they are worse liars than Obama.

They have since stymied nearly every conservative amendment and cause. They throw in with Democrats and shit on conservatives pretty frequently. They mock us and bad mouth us. Yet without us they would not be in power.

So why vote for them? Just because Democrats are worse? I'm not sure that's a good enough reason anymore.

Yes, why I left the party in 1990. They have repeated that formula many times. There was W getting the first Republican Congress and Senate in my lifetime and gong on a spending orgy. At this point I wonder how any Republican can say with a straight face they think Republicans are different than Democrats. Or vice versa as Obama like Clinton said we overused our military while continuing their predecessors strategy. The Republicans and Democrats are frick and frack, Tweedledum and Tweedledee, the Wrigley Gum twins, same thing, different day

The country is headed for financial disaster with no signs of changing course. This borrowing $18 trillion dollars to live high on the hog and sticking future generations with our bills sickens me. I think future generations stuck with the $50 trillion dollar debt will look back and say man, those people were real assholes.

I know. The assholes that took a budget surplus and turned it into a crashed economy that will take almost forever to recover from shouldn't be let back into office until they show that they don't want to continue those same failed policies. That's why we elected Obama, to try to straiten out some of those things. It's also why none of the clowns in the clown car have a chance.

Why do you troll such nonsense?

 

[BULLDOG]

The GOP establishment ran 40,000 ads in the 2014 election promising to defund Obamacare and Obama's executive amnesty then the first thing they did after the election was fund both of them. They are liars, its possible they are worse liars than Obama.

They have since stymied nearly every conservative amendment and cause. They throw in with Democrats and shit on conservatives pretty frequently. They mock us and bad mouth us. Yet without us they would not be in power.

So why vote for them? Just because Democrats are worse? I'm not sure that's a good enough reason anymore.

Yes, why I left the party in 1990. They have repeated that formula many times. There was W getting the first Republican Congress and Senate in my lifetime and gong on a spending orgy. At this point I wonder how any Republican can say with a straight face they think Republicans are different than Democrats. Or vice versa as Obama like Clinton said we overused our military while continuing their predecessors strategy. The Republicans and Democrats are frick and frack, Tweedledum and Tweedledee, the Wrigley Gum twins, same thing, different day

The country is headed for financial disaster with no signs of changing course. This borrowing $18 trillion dollars to live high on the hog and sticking future generations with our bills sickens me. I think future generations stuck with the $50 trillion dollar debt will look back and say man, those people were real assholes.

I know. The assholes that took a budget surplus and turned it into a crashed economy that will take almost forever to recover from shouldn't be let back into office until they show that they don't want to continue those same failed policies. That's why we elected Obama, to try to straiten out some of those things. It's also why none of the clowns in the clown car have a chance.

Why do you troll such nonsense?

Would you care to point out which part you disagree with and present credible proof of why you might disagree? That's credible proof. Not rush or breitbart, or any of those.

 

[kiwiman127]

You have to define the GOP base before you make the quantum leap that the GOP has abandoned it. So far the republican majority in congress is doing a pretty good job identifying about a hundred scandals in the Hussein administration and holding taxes down while keeping Americans secure from another terrorist attack and preserving the 2nd Amendment. Was there something else about the "base"?

Does all the accomplishments you listed explain the huge drop with the GOP's standing in the latest new Pew Research poll? The GOP is at a 18 year low! All the GOP has accomplished is waste tax payer money on unproductive witch hunts, broke their campaign promise to help the Middle Class and pass the repeal of the death tax which only benefitted 0.02% of Americans and all in the Top 1%.
Yep, there's plenty of great accomplishment that allows the GOP to pound their chests alright!

 

[kaz]

The GOP establishment ran 40,000 ads in the 2014 election promising to defund Obamacare and Obama's executive amnesty then the first thing they did after the election was fund both of them. They are liars, its possible they are worse liars than Obama.

They have since stymied nearly every conservative amendment and cause. They throw in with Democrats and shit on conservatives pretty frequently. They mock us and bad mouth us. Yet without us they would not be in power.

So why vote for them? Just because Democrats are worse? I'm not sure that's a good enough reason anymore.

Yes, why I left the party in 1990. They have repeated that formula many times. There was W getting the first Republican Congress and Senate in my lifetime and gong on a spending orgy. At this point I wonder how any Republican can say with a straight face they think Republicans are different than Democrats. Or vice versa as Obama like Clinton said we overused our military while continuing their predecessors strategy. The Republicans and Democrats are frick and frack, Tweedledum and Tweedledee, the Wrigley Gum twins, same thing, different day

The country is headed for financial disaster with no signs of changing course. This borrowing $18 trillion dollars to live high on the hog and sticking future generations with our bills sickens me. I think future generations stuck with the $50 trillion dollar debt will look back and say man, those people were real assholes.

I know. The assholes that took a budget surplus and turned it into a crashed economy that will take almost forever to recover from shouldn't be let back into office until they show that they don't want to continue those same failed policies. That's why we elected Obama, to try to straiten out some of those things. It's also why none of the clowns in the clown car have a chance.

Rrriiiigggghhhttttttt, it was only one party who did that, not yours. While the two of you pursue the same tax and spend militaristic policies, your shit doesn't stink. It's all their fault. Everything. So a question. Does the kool-aid give you a buzz, or is it more of a numbing sensation?

I never said either party is blameless. Just that the right has lost it's mind.

With two parties with virtual identical policies, they spent a tiny fraction of a percent different, they follow the same military policies, the same social policies. The differences are a gnat on an elephant's ass across the board. Yet you say the Republicans have "lost {their} mind." With nothing about the virtually identical Democrats. They got us where we are hand in hand. You're a mindless automaton

 

[kaz]

The GOP establishment ran 40,000 ads in the 2014 election promising to defund Obamacare and Obama's executive amnesty then the first thing they did after the election was fund both of them. They are liars, its possible they are worse liars than Obama.

They have since stymied nearly every conservative amendment and cause. They throw in with Democrats and shit on conservatives pretty frequently. They mock us and bad mouth us. Yet without us they would not be in power.

So why vote for them? Just because Democrats are worse? I'm not sure that's a good enough reason anymore.

Yes, why I left the party in 1990. They have repeated that formula many times. There was W getting the first Republican Congress and Senate in my lifetime and gong on a spending orgy. At this point I wonder how any Republican can say with a straight face they think Republicans are different than Democrats. Or vice versa as Obama like Clinton said we overused our military while continuing their predecessors strategy. The Republicans and Democrats are frick and frack, Tweedledum and Tweedledee, the Wrigley Gum twins, same thing, different day

The country is headed for financial disaster with no signs of changing course. This borrowing $18 trillion dollars to live high on the hog and sticking future generations with our bills sickens me. I think future generations stuck with the $50 trillion dollar debt will look back and say man, those people were real assholes.

I know. The assholes that took a budget surplus and turned it into a crashed economy that will take almost forever to recover from shouldn't be let back into office until they show that they don't want to continue those same failed policies. That's why we elected Obama, to try to straiten out some of those things. It's also why none of the clowns in the clown car have a chance.

Why do you troll such nonsense?

Would you care to point out which part you disagree with and present credible proof of why you might disagree? That's credible proof. Not rush or breitbart, or any of those.

Yes, dumb ass. The difference in budget proposals across the board between the parties is virtually zero, it's a tiny percent. Yet you only blame Republicans for out financial situation? You're a joke, a Partisan hack. You've had a full frontal lobotomy and politicians have inserted your thoughts into the empty space

 

[mudwhistle]

Is the base you referred to the segment that a majority polled by Pew Research found to be "extreme" (52%)? Nationally, the GOP's polling numbers are at it's lowest point in 18 years per a recent poll by Pew Research. The extreme element of the GOP is what is killing the party.

Yes they are, thankfully. Extremists need to be defeated, especially the party that carries signs to rallies that say 'keep government out of my medicare you socialists'.

And the demographics for the GOP are a ticking time bomb about to go off which will end their ability to get elected nationally.

That's rich.
Your best candidate may soon be under indictment. The only reason she isn't is because the Democrat president in office is more of a criminal than she is.

 

[FA_Q2]

Let see here....

Hmmm, The GOP base want to throw out their Rhinos
The progressives/lefties want to get rid of their blue dog Democrats.

Hey, Why don't we set up a blind date!! A Rhino/Blue Dog dinner date. I'm sure they will hit it off.

They may combine to form their own party!! In fact, why don't both sides offer some party infrastructure to help get them out quicker?

Because that might create competition and they do not want that.

 

[FA_Q2]

"GOP establishment has abandoned the base."

That depends on what constitutes 'the base.'

If 'the base' is made up of social conservatives, Christian fundamentalists, reactionary libertarians, fiscal extremists, and ignorant TPM nitwits, then 'the base' deserves to be abandoned by the GOP establishment.

Nope and they are not being abandoned anyway - they are embraced.


The base, those that believe in small and efficient government and personal responsibility, has been left by the wayside. The truly sad part is that the democrat based, the ones that believe in social welfare and governmental oversight, have also been left out in the wayside but have not noticed at all.

 

[dblack]

That is the biggest reason they are going to lose big in 2016. Yes, once again talk radio will rally behind the rubio/bush cabal and blather how essential it is to defeat hillary. Meanwhile, the base of the party is finding it has no representation in govt.

But arguably the Democrats are in the same boat.

 

[dblack]

GOP establishment has abandoned the base.

No it hasn't. The REAL Gop base is business.

Whereas the Democrats rely on business.

 

[FA_Q2]

That is the biggest reason they are going to lose big in 2016. Yes, once again talk radio will rally behind the rubio/bush cabal and blather how essential it is to defeat hillary. Meanwhile, the base of the party is finding it has no representation in govt.

But arguably the Democrats are in the same boat.

I don't think so. I honestly do not think that they even notice that they are ignored. Look at the ACA - a massive handout to the insurance companies that was unnecessary but vehemently defended by the left. It is completely against their ideals. So was the bailout - another idea defended by the left.

They have been abandoned to cronies but the difference is I don't think they have even noticed it yet.

 

[dblack]

That is the biggest reason they are going to lose big in 2016. Yes, once again talk radio will rally behind the rubio/bush cabal and blather how essential it is to defeat hillary. Meanwhile, the base of the party is finding it has no representation in govt.

But arguably the Democrats are in the same boat.

I don't think so. I honestly do not think that they even notice that they are ignored. Look at the ACA - a massive handout to the insurance companies that was unnecessary but vehemently defended by the left. It is completely against their ideals. So was the bailout - another idea defended by the left.

They have been abandoned to cronies but the difference is I don't think they have even noticed it yet.

I think they're having their own little "Ron Paul Revolution" with the Bernie Sanders thing. It'll be interesting to see how the progressives deal with their hangover when it comes time to vote for another Clinton.

 

[evince]

you cant cheat forever


your cheating will be caught and this time PRISON

 

[Lakhota]

GOP establishment has abandoned the base.

Can you blame them? The teabagger crazies want to destroy the GOP.

 

[dblack]

you cant cheat forever


your cheating will be caught and this time PRISON

Well said! Well said, indeed.

 

[bendog]

That is the biggest reason they are going to lose big in 2016. Yes, once again talk radio will rally behind the rubio/bush cabal and blather how essential it is to defeat hillary. Meanwhile, the base of the party is finding it has no representation in govt.

It is TIME

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation

 

[SAYIT]

That is the biggest reason they are going to lose big in 2016. Yes, once again talk radio will rally behind the rubio/bush cabal and blather how essential it is to defeat hillary. Meanwhile, the base of the party is finding it has no representation in govt.

Lose to who oh great Swammi?

Pretty much anything the Dems run.
We are fucking ourselves by ignoring the growing bigot wing of the party in an increasingly diverse America.