Going to give Apple a try.

I've been a windows user from the beginning,but after going through three mid range laptops in just over a year and having iphones that never fail I've decided to go to the dark side. Or the hipster side as it were.
Any advice from MacBook Pro users on making the switch a little less painful?

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Please switch to Apple. The Millennial cycle will be complete.
 
If I had the know how to fix em I would probably just build my own.
It's just never something that interested me.
As long as I can watch porn and go to USMB i'm good.:biggrin:

I know you were making a joke, but that's what Linux is all about - surfing the web and watching porn. Where Linux fails is when it occupies a mission critical role - not because the OS is unstable, but because the critical software just isn't there. Scaled down freeware just doesn't cut it when putting in systems. I know that servers can work well - hell my web server is on Red Hat. But no professional ERP is running on MySQL - that's just the fact. As SaaS grows, this matters less and less, but at this time, it still matters a lot.
Like he said, different strokes for different folks, I've always said use what works for what you are doing, sometimes Windows fits that bill, sometimes it's Apple, sometimes it's Linux. My next machine will most likely be an Apple, time to give them a try considering I personally am pretty fed up with Windows, again a personal choice.

If you're like me and it's going to be used to screw around on the internet,I think you'll be pleased with it.
I know I am.
 
I've been a windows user from the beginning,but after going through three mid range laptops in just over a year and having iphones that never fail I've decided to go to the dark side. Or the hipster side as it were.
Any advice from MacBook Pro users on making the switch a little less painful?

.
Please switch to Apple. The Millennial cycle will be complete.

You're not calling me a millennial I hope.
 
Just know that all apple products are over priced electronics made in China with slave labor.

As long as you ok with that, then sure buy an Apple product.

Just remember if something goes wrong with your Apple you will need to take in to the "Genius" store to get fix.
 
Just know that all apple products are over priced electronics made in China with slave labor.

As long as you ok with that, then sure buy an Apple product.

Just remember if something goes wrong with your Apple you will need to take in to the "Genius" store to get fix.

Very few computers are made in the U.S. and the parts come from china.
And being that I've had iphones for years without a single failure I feel confident the new MacBook will perform the same.
 
Just know that all apple products are over priced electronics made in China with slave labor.

As long as you ok with that, then sure buy an Apple product.

Just remember if something goes wrong with your Apple you will need to take in to the "Genius" store to get fix.

Very few computers are made in the U.S. and the parts come from china.
And being that I've had iphones for years without a single failure I feel confident the new MacBook will perform the same.

Good Luck, but I will not pay $3000 for a word processor and a internet browser.

The problem with Laptops is you get what you pay for when you buy them. They are made with real cheap electronics and of course Windows is a broken Operating System, that is why I use Linux..

The only PC in my house that runs Windows has Windows 7 Ultimate on it and I have not had a problem with it.

But then again it is a hoss of a computer as well, even my motherboard has a 5 year warranty on it.

But it has to be a hoss in order to run the CAD design software..
 
Just know that all apple products are over priced electronics made in China with slave labor.

As long as you ok with that, then sure buy an Apple product.

Just remember if something goes wrong with your Apple you will need to take in to the "Genius" store to get fix.

Very few computers are made in the U.S. and the parts come from china.
And being that I've had iphones for years without a single failure I feel confident the new MacBook will perform the same.

Good Luck, but I will not pay $3000 for a word processor and a internet browser.

The problem with Laptops is you get what you pay for when you buy them. They are made with real cheap electronics and of course Windows is a broken Operating System, that is why I use Linux..

The only PC in my house that runs Windows has Windows 7 Ultimate on it and I have not had a problem with it.

But then again it is a hoss of a computer as well, even my motherboard has a 5 year warranty on it.

But it has to be a hoss in order to run the CAD design software..

$3'000 Bucks?
Where the hell do you shop?
 
Just know that all apple products are over priced electronics made in China with slave labor.

As long as you ok with that, then sure buy an Apple product.

Just remember if something goes wrong with your Apple you will need to take in to the "Genius" store to get fix.

Very few computers are made in the U.S. and the parts come from china.
And being that I've had iphones for years without a single failure I feel confident the new MacBook will perform the same.

Good Luck, but I will not pay $3000 for a word processor and a internet browser.

The problem with Laptops is you get what you pay for when you buy them. They are made with real cheap electronics and of course Windows is a broken Operating System, that is why I use Linux..

The only PC in my house that runs Windows has Windows 7 Ultimate on it and I have not had a problem with it.

But then again it is a hoss of a computer as well, even my motherboard has a 5 year warranty on it.

But it has to be a hoss in order to run the CAD design software..

$3'000 Bucks?
Where the hell do you shop?

To get the mac book I would need for me to work on, that is what it will cost.

Although 4 years ago I bought an Acer laptop with 21" monitor on it, it cost $2300. Of course they don't make this model anymore, but it will handle the CAD software. The $3000 MacBook will not handle the CAD software. With my laptop I have upgraded the memory, added Two SSD hard drives and it works like a champ. That is something you can not do to MacBook without the help of Apple.

If I was just using a computer for surfing the web and checking e-mail, then I would stay in the PC realm as they are much cheaper than Apple products.

If you are having trouble with Windows, try Red Hat Linux...

The PC or laptop is generally not the problem is the broken Operating System that Microsoft puts out. As you can tell I am not a Microsoft fan. There are many things you can do to disable some of the unnecessary programs that Windows will run.

Sometimes they are a necessary evil.

Also look into getting open office as it just like Microsoft Office.

The MAC OS on their computers and laptops is based on the Unix OS, Apple went this way to try and make their computers more network friendly.

I can understand ones frustration with the Windows OS.
 
Just know that all apple products are over priced electronics made in China with slave labor.

As long as you ok with that, then sure buy an Apple product.

Just remember if something goes wrong with your Apple you will need to take in to the "Genius" store to get fix.

Very few computers are made in the U.S. and the parts come from china.
And being that I've had iphones for years without a single failure I feel confident the new MacBook will perform the same.

Good Luck, but I will not pay $3000 for a word processor and a internet browser.

The problem with Laptops is you get what you pay for when you buy them. They are made with real cheap electronics and of course Windows is a broken Operating System, that is why I use Linux..

The only PC in my house that runs Windows has Windows 7 Ultimate on it and I have not had a problem with it.

But then again it is a hoss of a computer as well, even my motherboard has a 5 year warranty on it.

But it has to be a hoss in order to run the CAD design software..

$3'000 Bucks?
Where the hell do you shop?

To get the mac book I would need for me to work on, that is what it will cost.

Although 4 years ago I bought an Acer laptop with 21" monitor on it, it cost $2300. Of course they don't make this model anymore, but it will handle the CAD software. The $3000 MacBook will not handle the CAD software. With my laptop I have upgraded the memory, added Two SSD hard drives and it works like a champ. That is something you can not do to MacBook without the help of Apple.

If I was just using a computer for surfing the web and checking e-mail, then I would stay in the PC realm as they are much cheaper than Apple products.

If you are having trouble with Windows, try Red Hat Linux...

The PC or laptop is generally not the problem is the broken Operating System that Microsoft puts out. As you can tell I am not a Microsoft fan. There are many things you can do to disable some of the unnecessary programs that Windows will run.

Sometimes they are a necessary evil.

Also look into getting open office as it just like Microsoft Office.

The MAC OS on their computers and laptops is based on the Unix OS, Apple went this way to try and make their computers more network friendly.

I can understand ones frustration with the Windows OS.

If you've followed this thread you know I have zero interest in jacking with linux.
Even those who are computer geeks admit it can get complicated and as you've said windows can be a pain in the ass.
So far the Mac has exceeded my expectations for what I use it for.

I picked this one up for 1'900 bucks and it does everything I ask of it.
Apple - MacBook® Pro - 15.4" Display - Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - 256GB Flash Storage
 
Just know that all apple products are over priced electronics made in China with slave labor.

As long as you ok with that, then sure buy an Apple product.

Just remember if something goes wrong with your Apple you will need to take in to the "Genius" store to get fix.

Very few computers are made in the U.S. and the parts come from china.
And being that I've had iphones for years without a single failure I feel confident the new MacBook will perform the same.

Good Luck, but I will not pay $3000 for a word processor and a internet browser.

The problem with Laptops is you get what you pay for when you buy them. They are made with real cheap electronics and of course Windows is a broken Operating System, that is why I use Linux..

The only PC in my house that runs Windows has Windows 7 Ultimate on it and I have not had a problem with it.

But then again it is a hoss of a computer as well, even my motherboard has a 5 year warranty on it.

But it has to be a hoss in order to run the CAD design software..

$3'000 Bucks?
Where the hell do you shop?

To get the mac book I would need for me to work on, that is what it will cost.

Although 4 years ago I bought an Acer laptop with 21" monitor on it, it cost $2300. Of course they don't make this model anymore, but it will handle the CAD software. The $3000 MacBook will not handle the CAD software. With my laptop I have upgraded the memory, added Two SSD hard drives and it works like a champ. That is something you can not do to MacBook without the help of Apple.

If I was just using a computer for surfing the web and checking e-mail, then I would stay in the PC realm as they are much cheaper than Apple products.

If you are having trouble with Windows, try Red Hat Linux...

The PC or laptop is generally not the problem is the broken Operating System that Microsoft puts out. As you can tell I am not a Microsoft fan. There are many things you can do to disable some of the unnecessary programs that Windows will run.

Sometimes they are a necessary evil.

Also look into getting open office as it just like Microsoft Office.

The MAC OS on their computers and laptops is based on the Unix OS, Apple went this way to try and make their computers more network friendly.

I can understand ones frustration with the Windows OS.

If you've followed this thread you know I have zero interest in jacking with linux.
Even those who are computer geeks admit it can get complicated and as you've said windows can be a pain in the ass.
So far the Mac has exceeded my expectations for what I use it for.

I picked this one up for 1'900 bucks and it does everything I ask of it.
Apple - MacBook® Pro - 15.4" Display - Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - 256GB Flash Storage

Good for you! Still too pricey for me for an internet browser, but if it works for you then good.

Just pray you never have a problem with it..
 
Very few computers are made in the U.S. and the parts come from china.
And being that I've had iphones for years without a single failure I feel confident the new MacBook will perform the same.

Good Luck, but I will not pay $3000 for a word processor and a internet browser.

The problem with Laptops is you get what you pay for when you buy them. They are made with real cheap electronics and of course Windows is a broken Operating System, that is why I use Linux..

The only PC in my house that runs Windows has Windows 7 Ultimate on it and I have not had a problem with it.

But then again it is a hoss of a computer as well, even my motherboard has a 5 year warranty on it.

But it has to be a hoss in order to run the CAD design software..

$3'000 Bucks?
Where the hell do you shop?

To get the mac book I would need for me to work on, that is what it will cost.

Although 4 years ago I bought an Acer laptop with 21" monitor on it, it cost $2300. Of course they don't make this model anymore, but it will handle the CAD software. The $3000 MacBook will not handle the CAD software. With my laptop I have upgraded the memory, added Two SSD hard drives and it works like a champ. That is something you can not do to MacBook without the help of Apple.

If I was just using a computer for surfing the web and checking e-mail, then I would stay in the PC realm as they are much cheaper than Apple products.

If you are having trouble with Windows, try Red Hat Linux...

The PC or laptop is generally not the problem is the broken Operating System that Microsoft puts out. As you can tell I am not a Microsoft fan. There are many things you can do to disable some of the unnecessary programs that Windows will run.

Sometimes they are a necessary evil.

Also look into getting open office as it just like Microsoft Office.

The MAC OS on their computers and laptops is based on the Unix OS, Apple went this way to try and make their computers more network friendly.

I can understand ones frustration with the Windows OS.

If you've followed this thread you know I have zero interest in jacking with linux.
Even those who are computer geeks admit it can get complicated and as you've said windows can be a pain in the ass.
So far the Mac has exceeded my expectations for what I use it for.

I picked this one up for 1'900 bucks and it does everything I ask of it.
Apple - MacBook® Pro - 15.4" Display - Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - 256GB Flash Storage

Good for you! Still too pricey for me for an internet browser, but if it works for you then good.

Just pray you never have a problem with it..

No biggie if I do. I have three other laptops and a desk top laying around I can use while it's being repaired if it comes to that.
 
Here's the thing UC...
I've built flight hardware for the shuttle program,I've made parts for the F-22 prototype,I've made artificial hearts from scratch,I can make a V8 engine from billet stock...I look at computers as a tool to those ends. Other than that they just dont do anything for me and the last thing I want to do is mess with em.
Dont get me wrong,they're absolutely bad ass when it comes to helping me do the things that allowed me to retire early but they're still just a tool in my mind.
I will say I have the utmost respect for those who know them inside out,but really people like that just like computers like I like machining.
Different strokes as they say.


I've been in IT (various forms, starting with EDP) for 35 years. I've seen everything from PDP mainframes to Palm Pilots. I agree with you that a computer is a tool. But there is a reason that Catia - the software to makes that F-22 runs on Windows and not Mac. There is a reason that SolidWorks, the software used to design V8 engines runs on Windows. A generation back, they ran on Unix, but Unix is dead. Pro-E and even Unigraphics are Windows hosted.

If your task is Facebook and Instagram, any device will do, including Mac. If you want to engage in modeling and design, it isn't the right tool for the job. Dassualt may support their own flavor of Linux for Catia in the next release.
 
If I had the know how to fix em I would probably just build my own.
It's just never something that interested me.
As long as I can watch porn and go to USMB i'm good.:biggrin:

I know you were making a joke, but that's what Linux is all about - surfing the web and watching porn. Where Linux fails is when it occupies a mission critical role - not because the OS is unstable, but because the critical software just isn't there. Scaled down freeware just doesn't cut it when putting in systems. I know that servers can work well - hell my web server is on Red Hat. But no professional ERP is running on MySQL - that's just the fact. As SaaS grows, this matters less and less, but at this time, it still matters a lot.
You keep repeating your idiotic comments as if that will make them true. If Linux hurts your pussy, tough shit.
 
Like he said, different strokes for different folks, I've always said use what works for what you are doing, sometimes Windows fits that bill, sometimes it's Apple, sometimes it's Linux. My next machine will most likely be an Apple, time to give them a try considering I personally am pretty fed up with Windows, again a personal choice.

If people want to buy Mac, have at. Mac is fine for web browsing. For those who want or need to do a bit more, they will need Linux or Windows.
 
So this neighbor goes on the internet and buys a Windows-running PC.

Enters the order and then up comes the helpful screen of helpful hints as to what other who bought that PC had also purchased:

Hair shirts
DIYnipple ring insertion tools
Bikini-zone waxing kits
Running shoes with Firestone 500 soles
 
Here's the thing UC...
I've built flight hardware for the shuttle program,I've made parts for the F-22 prototype,I've made artificial hearts from scratch,I can make a V8 engine from billet stock...I look at computers as a tool to those ends. Other than that they just dont do anything for me and the last thing I want to do is mess with em.
Dont get me wrong,they're absolutely bad ass when it comes to helping me do the things that allowed me to retire early but they're still just a tool in my mind.
I will say I have the utmost respect for those who know them inside out,but really people like that just like computers like I like machining.
Different strokes as they say.


I've been in IT (various forms, starting with EDP) for 35 years. I've seen everything from PDP mainframes to Palm Pilots. I agree with you that a computer is a tool. But there is a reason that Catia - the software to makes that F-22 runs on Windows and not Mac. There is a reason that SolidWorks, the software used to design V8 engines runs on Windows. A generation back, they ran on Unix, but Unix is dead. Pro-E and even Unigraphics are Windows hosted.

If your task is Facebook and Instagram, any device will do, including Mac. If you want to engage in modeling and design, it isn't the right tool for the job. Dassualt may support their own flavor of Linux for Catia in the next release.

And like I said...I used windows PCs when I was working in the industry.
I am retired now and dont need to.
 
Also look into getting open office as it just like Microsoft Office.

The MAC OS on their computers and laptops is based on the Unix OS, Apple went this way to try and make their computers more network friendly.

I can understand ones frustration with the Windows OS.
Android is basically Linux too, they developed it with a modified Mint. Open Office split into two and LibreOffice is the more widely distributed version.
 
Like he said, different strokes for different folks, I've always said use what works for what you are doing, sometimes Windows fits that bill, sometimes it's Apple, sometimes it's Linux. My next machine will most likely be an Apple, time to give them a try considering I personally am pretty fed up with Windows, again a personal choice.

If people want to buy Mac, have at. Mac is fine for web browsing. For those who want or need to do a bit more, they will need Linux or Windows.
Yep. No graphic artist, photographer, pre-press/print or musician would ever use a Mac.
 

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