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There is no physical proof that god exsists.
There is VAST physical proof Washington exsisted including a vast number of relatives containing his DNA
Wrong again. Whether you believe it or not, you are in big trouble.That is not a rebuttal. It's a refusal to rebut, which implies that you can't.
If you don't want to take the time to argue against EVERYTHING I said, pick one and argue against that, as Daveman did above.
All you're doing here is demonstrating your own immaturity.
Your the one saying life isn't fair and that god is a big meanie.
And I'm the immature one?
Seriously, read some of the bible, go to a church and converse with the people there. Learn something from sources that aren't full of hate.
He, She, It never has bothered me. You have to believe that voodoo shit before it works.
You are such an idiot your ignorance is trumping your smarts. Stop pretending you know what the Bible says and who wrote it. The Bible was written by, Kings, prophets, tax collectors, fishermen, and maybe goat herders, all of which are a lot smarter than you.He, She, It never has bothered me. You have to believe that voodoo shit before it works.
What voodoo?
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The people who wrote the bible herded goats, believed in witchcraft and thought the earth was flat. Superstition never has turned me on much.
Wrong idiot. God is nothing like you describe. God did not make man imperfect. Man, as he usually does, listened to satan's lies and therefore fell. God punishes non-believers. You are still listening to satans lies. Shut up and leave.I happen to believe that God is true and does exist. The title of this thread is very saddening to me.
PEACE
The title of this thread has nothing to do with whether God exists. Many people on both sides of that question seem to have a problem understanding that. I'm talking about whether the PICTURE of God presented by traditional Christian theology makes any (moral) sense -- not whether the REALITY of God does.
Traditional Christian theology presents a God who is much as I described him. He demands perfection of people that he created imperfect, and punishes failure to live up to his standards by making people scream forever under hideous torture. After doing this for thousands of years, he sends his son to be tortured instead and is willing to let imperfect humanity off the hook -- but only those that follow a religion worshiping said son of God. For everyone else, it's still scream forever in hideous torture.
My point of course is not that the REAL God fits that description, but rather that he doesn't, and hence that traditional Christian theology is absurd. Christians are in fact all aware of this at some level. Depending on how religiously conservative or liberal they are, Christians either make mealy-mouthed and logically nonsensical excuses (like blaming Hell on human free will, when God is under no absolute requirement to punish human abuse of free will on such a ridiculous scale, and so it remains, deny it though you will, his fault), or else reject the concept of Hell and reinterpret the central Christian mythos of Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection in more spiritually sound ways.
The latter approach of course removes the problem. The God of Christians who do this ceases to be a monstrous, evil, bloodthirsty tyrant and becomes the God of love that all Christians proclaim him to be. So I'm not even attacking Christianity as such here -- let alone the idea of God. I am attacking merely a certain concept of God arising from traditional Christian theology.
No, she can't. No sooner than she can prove evolution, which she can't either, she would be lying if she said she could.There is no physical proof that god exsists.
There is VAST physical proof Washington exsisted including a vast number of relatives containing his DNA
can you prove that?.....since the beginning of humanity there have been countless people who have said they have seen UFO's......but yet no physical proof.....but yet drawings of flying objects appear in Mayan and Egyptian drawings....what were they describing?....
Pretty much.Wrong idiot. God is nothing like you describe. God did not make man imperfect. Man, as he usually does, listened to satan's lies and therefore fell. God punishes non-believers. You are still listening to satans lies. Shut up and leave.The title of this thread has nothing to do with whether God exists. Many people on both sides of that question seem to have a problem understanding that. I'm talking about whether the PICTURE of God presented by traditional Christian theology makes any (moral) sense -- not whether the REALITY of God does.
Traditional Christian theology presents a God who is much as I described him. He demands perfection of people that he created imperfect, and punishes failure to live up to his standards by making people scream forever under hideous torture. After doing this for thousands of years, he sends his son to be tortured instead and is willing to let imperfect humanity off the hook -- but only those that follow a religion worshiping said son of God. For everyone else, it's still scream forever in hideous torture.
My point of course is not that the REAL God fits that description, but rather that he doesn't, and hence that traditional Christian theology is absurd. Christians are in fact all aware of this at some level. Depending on how religiously conservative or liberal they are, Christians either make mealy-mouthed and logically nonsensical excuses (like blaming Hell on human free will, when God is under no absolute requirement to punish human abuse of free will on such a ridiculous scale, and so it remains, deny it though you will, his fault), or else reject the concept of Hell and reinterpret the central Christian mythos of Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection in more spiritually sound ways.
The latter approach of course removes the problem. The God of Christians who do this ceases to be a monstrous, evil, bloodthirsty tyrant and becomes the God of love that all Christians proclaim him to be. So I'm not even attacking Christianity as such here -- let alone the idea of God. I am attacking merely a certain concept of God arising from traditional Christian theology.
And back in the stone age ol GAWD put two naked teens in a garden with a snake and they made a little mistake and condemned the entire human race. LMAO
Devil my arse....screw the devil.
I consider the logical and scientific objections to Christianity and Biblical inerrancy to be separate issues, having nothing to do with what I'm talking about here, namely the moral depravity of God as he is presented in Christian theology.
My inference has always been that as the creator of the moral laws the Christian god is above such laws and may violate them with impunity.
But we all know there is no god, Christian or otherwise; its a creation of man, as is religion. The proof of this is Christian dogma itself, as it perfectly reflects the depravity and cruelty of humankind.
You hush. Jones. Has. Spoken.I consider the logical and scientific objections to Christianity and Biblical inerrancy to be separate issues, having nothing to do with what I'm talking about here, namely the moral depravity of God as he is presented in Christian theology.
My inference has always been that as the creator of the moral laws the Christian god is above such laws and may violate them with impunity.
But we all know there is no god, Christian or otherwise; its a creation of man, as is religion. The proof of this is Christian dogma itself, as it perfectly reflects the depravity and cruelty of humankind.
can you prove that?.....because i cant.....but yet no one can prove there is one....interesting aint it?....
You are such an idiot your ignorance is trumping your smarts. Stop pretending you know what the Bible says and who wrote it. The Bible was written by, Kings, prophets, tax collectors, fishermen, and maybe goat herders, all of which are a lot smarter than you.What voodoo?
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The people who wrote the bible herded goats, believed in witchcraft and thought the earth was flat. Superstition never has turned me on much.
God is a Monstrous, Evil, Bloodthirsty Tyrant
You are such an idiot your ignorance is trumping your smarts. Stop pretending you know what the Bible says and who wrote it. The Bible was written by, Kings, prophets, tax collectors, fishermen, and maybe goat herders, all of which are a lot smarter than you.The people who wrote the bible herded goats, believed in witchcraft and thought the earth was flat. Superstition never has turned me on much.
I'd venture a guess that even modern day goat herders are smarter than our own dear cammmpbell.
God Brought me back to life when I died in a hospital bed in September 1985
God Brought me back to life when I died in a hospital bed in September 1985
Same thing happened to my dog when it was bitten by a copperhead in 1950 and I didn't even know he was into the god thing.
God Brought me back to life when I died in a hospital bed in September 1985
Same thing happened to my dog when it was bitten by a copperhead in 1950 and I didn't even know he was into the god thing.
You are a fucking idiot.
You are probably lying about your iq score. You have not won anything. You prove your stupidity all the time.Same thing happened to my dog when it was bitten by a copperhead in 1950 and I didn't even know he was into the god thing.
You are a fucking idiot.
I always know I have won when someone calls me a moron or an idiot. I've had three IQ tests during my lifetime...in the Oak Ridge, TN high school, in OCS training in the army and once by mensa in Knoxville, TN. Average score......129.
I suggest you look up the description of an idiot or a moron. You might consider adding imbecile to your attacks...that would be equally impressive.
God is nothing like you describe.
God did not make man imperfect.
God punishes non-believers.
