No Hell & everyone gets saved.

[JP Cusick]

The Bible does not really teach of any burning HELL as the word in the Bible only means the grave or garbage dump where they use to throw dead bodies.

Many religions beside Christianity has taught people this wrong barbaric idea as their religious doctrine, but it is not real.

1) Any God that burns people for any reason is not only a monster but a criminal and a sinner and an evil entity.

2) Burning people is not "forgiveness" as it is rather the opposite of forgiving.

3) Burning people is not "love" as it is rather the opposite of love.

4) Putting any person into a Hell, link HERE, is not justice and such an evil idea can not be justice.

5) To "love" means no pain and no more hurting for anyone, as per: "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." KJV. Revelation 21:4.

God is love, link here = 1 John 4:8, and God does not hurt people, and that means no one ever goes to any hell.

Everyone is a sinner at various degrees and depth, and there is no one as righteous.

Nobody goes to some fire and torment of any hell, and the saying of "Hell on earth" in this lifetime now is far more accurate.

In the end everyone gets saved and not even one sinner nor one evil sheep gets lost or left out because salvation is for all of mankind.

Jesus said "Love thy enemies" just as God loves His enemies, Matthew 5:43-48, so love does not burn people and love does not hurt people, and that means not even those that are sinners and enemies.

See 1 Corinthians 3:15 "If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." So the person is being "SAVED" by the "FIRE" and not hurt by it.

The plan is to have a great salvation, and it would not be great if some people were excluded.

Just FYI.

 

[JP Cusick]

Another point is that the name of God is "Yahweh" and this name means "Creator" in the masculine tense - as in "male creator" or as "Father".

The term "God" is extremely inaccurate, as in the old language "God" means an idol.

In the Bible the word translated as "God" is "El" and we know longer know what El was or what El means, but the Bible often uses this El name in its plural form as "Elohim" which is translated too as "God" which again is severely inaccurate.

Elohim being plural could be translated as Gods (plural) but that upsets the Christian claims of a one (1) God so the Bible translations leave out the plural "s".

And in the Bible the primary name given of "Yahweh Elohim" is mistranslated as "LORD God" which is again extremely inaccurate. If translated literally then Yahweh Elohim could be more correctly translated as "Father of the Gods" or "Father of the Elohim".

It is noteworthy that in the New Testament then Jesus referred to the "Father" repeatedly, and since it is recorded in the Greek language then Jesus might have been saying Yahweh in Hebrew or else He was translating the word Yahweh into "Father" which seems highly likely.

As such the word "God" gives out a very wrong perception of the real life entity of Creator or Father of humanity.

Of course I too must use the word "God" since it is so viciously ingrained in our unstudied society.

FYI.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Another point is that the name of God is "Yahweh" and this name means "Creator" in the masculine tense - as in "male creator" or as "Father".

The term "God" is extremely inaccurate, as in the old language "God" means an idol.

In the Bible the word translated as "God" is "El" and we know longer know what El was or what El means, but the Bible often uses this El name in its plural form as "Elohim" which is translated too as "God" which again is severely inaccurate.

Elohim being plural could be translated as Gods (plural) but that upsets the Christian claims of a one (1) God so the Bible translations leave out the plural "s".

And in the Bible the primary name given of "Yahweh Elohim" is mistranslated as "LORD God" which is again extremely inaccurate. If translated literally then Yahweh Elohim could be more correctly translated as "Father of the Gods" or "Father of the Elohim".

It is noteworthy that in the New Testament then Jesus referred to the "Father" repeatedly, and since it is recorded in the Greek language then Jesus might have been saying Yahweh in Hebrew or else He was translating the word Yahweh into "Father" which seems highly likely.

As such the word "God" gives out a very wrong perception of the real life entity of Creator or Father of humanity.

Of course I too must use the word "God" since it is so viciously ingrained in our unstudied society.

FYI.

Your ignorance is pretty comical, shows how low your intelligence is. Revelation 20 versus 13-15. Actually read the whole chapter, 20. You will see that the Bible clearly says that the unbelievers will be thrown into a lake of fire. IT also says the grave will give up its dead to be judged.

 

[AmericanFirst]

The Bible does not really teach of any burning HELL as the word in the Bible only means the grave or garbage dump where they use to throw dead bodies.

Many religions beside Christianity has taught people this wrong barbaric idea as their religious doctrine, but it is not real.

1) Any God that burns people for any reason is not only a monster but a criminal and a sinner and an evil entity.

2) Burning people is not "forgiveness" as it is rather the opposite of forgiving.

3) Burning people is not "love" as it is rather the opposite of love.

4) Putting any person into a Hell, link HERE, is not justice and such an evil idea can not be justice.

5) To "love" means no pain and no more hurting for anyone, as per: "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." KJV. Revelation 21:4.

God is love, link here = 1 John 4:8, and God does not hurt people, and that means no one ever goes to any hell.

Everyone is a sinner at various degrees and depth, and there is no one as righteous.

Nobody goes to some fire and torment of any hell, and the saying of "Hell on earth" in this lifetime now is far more accurate.

In the end everyone gets saved and not even one sinner nor one evil sheep gets lost or left out because salvation is for all of mankind.

Jesus said "Love thy enemies" just as God loves His enemies, Matthew 5:43-48, so love does not burn people and love does not hurt people, and that means not even those that are sinners and enemies.

See 1 Corinthians 3:15 "If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." So the person is being "SAVED" by the "FIRE" and not hurt by it.

The plan is to have a great salvation, and it would not be great if some people were excluded.

Just FYI.

Rev: 21 v4 refers to those whose names are in the book of life and were not throw into the lake of fire with satan. Stop trying to confuse people with your lies by twisting scripture to fit your ignorance.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Thanks man, good to know. I'll "sticky" that to my fridge.

 

[JP Cusick]

Revelation 20 versus 13-15. Actually read the whole chapter, 20. You will see that the Bible clearly says that the unbelievers will be thrown into a lake of fire. IT also says the grave will give up its dead to be judged.

If one reads the opening post of this thread then it shows how the "fire" stands for purification, and the sins are destroyed while the person is saved.

See 1 Corinthians 3:15 "If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." So the person is being "SAVED" by the "FIRE" and not hurt by it.

And Revelation 20 does say about the "grave" giving up the "dead" and that means dead people are in the graves.

The dead people are not burning in a Hell and not singing in Heaven as the "dead" are dead in the grave.

The word "Judgement" does not mean like a human trial where people are accused and condemned - no, to "Judge" in the Bible means to teach people about truth and justice and about spirituality and NOT a Court room trial.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Revelation 20 versus 13-15. Actually read the whole chapter, 20. You will see that the Bible clearly says that the unbelievers will be thrown into a lake of fire. IT also says the grave will give up its dead to be judged.

If one reads the opening post of this thread then it shows how the "fire" stands for purification, and the sins are destroyed while the person is saved.

See 1 Corinthians 3:15 "If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." So the person is being "SAVED" by the "FIRE" and not hurt by it.

And Revelation 20 does say about the "grave" giving up the "dead" and that means dead people are in the graves.

The dead people are not burning in a Hell and not singing in Heaven as the "dead" are dead in the grave.

The word "Judgement" does not mean like a human trial where people are accused and condemned - no, to "Judge" in the Bible means to teach people about truth and justice and about spirituality and NOT a Court room trial.

1 Corinthians 3:15 is talking about Believers sins. The dead in the grave are judged at the Great White Throne of Judgment and are thrown in the lake of fire. When you die as a believer your spirit goes to heaven. When you die as a nonbeliever your spirit stays in the grave with your body.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Revelation 20 versus 13-15. Actually read the whole chapter, 20. You will see that the Bible clearly says that the unbelievers will be thrown into a lake of fire. IT also says the grave will give up its dead to be judged.

If one reads the opening post of this thread then it shows how the "fire" stands for purification, and the sins are destroyed while the person is saved.

See 1 Corinthians 3:15 "If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." So the person is being "SAVED" by the "FIRE" and not hurt by it.

And Revelation 20 does say about the "grave" giving up the "dead" and that means dead people are in the graves.

The dead people are not burning in a Hell and not singing in Heaven as the "dead" are dead in the grave.

The word "Judgement" does not mean like a human trial where people are accused and condemned - no, to "Judge" in the Bible means to teach people about truth and justice and about spirituality and NOT a Court room trial.

OMG, someone with a wisdom understanding of the Bible. Good for you. You are rare.

 

[LilOlLady]

Another point is that the name of God is "Yahweh" and this name means "Creator" in the masculine tense - as in "male creator" or as "Father".

The term "God" is extremely inaccurate, as in the old language "God" means an idol.

In the Bible the word translated as "God" is "El" and we know longer know what El was or what El means, but the Bible often uses this El name in its plural form as "Elohim" which is translated too as "God" which again is severely inaccurate.

Elohim being plural could be translated as Gods (plural) but that upsets the Christian claims of a one (1) God so the Bible translations leave out the plural "s".

And in the Bible the primary name given of "Yahweh Elohim" is mistranslated as "LORD God" which is again extremely inaccurate. If translated literally then Yahweh Elohim could be more correctly translated as "Father of the Gods" or "Father of the Elohim".

It is noteworthy that in the New Testament then Jesus referred to the "Father" repeatedly, and since it is recorded in the Greek language then Jesus might have been saying Yahweh in Hebrew or else He was translating the word Yahweh into "Father" which seems highly likely.

As such the word "God" gives out a very wrong perception of the real life entity of Creator or Father of humanity.

Of course I too must use the word "God" since it is so viciously ingrained in our unstudied society.

FYI.

Your ignorance is pretty comical, shows how low your intelligence is. Revelation 20 versus 13-15. Actually read the whole chapter, 20. You will see that the Bible clearly says that the unbelievers will be thrown into a lake of fire. IT also says the grave will give up its dead to be judged.

Symbolic for total distruction and separation from the presence of GOD. There is not word for hell in the Greek or Hebrew language. Hades and sheol means the grave and hades and sheol gave up the dead in them. There is no evidence of going to heaven or hell at the tme of death. There is a resurrection of the just and unjust. HELL, the grave, will be destroyed. The true GOD would never burn anyone of his children forever.
IF you are reading the KJV you are reading a translation that have many errors in word usage and had to be apporved by King James and is translated according to his beliefs.
IF you want the true meaning you have to compare may translation and know Hebrew and Greek words.

 

[Douger]

It's a script. Nada mas.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Uhhhhh, what am I supposed to be terrified of then? Global warming? Muslims?

 

[LilOlLady]

Rev. 20:14-15, "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

Rev. 21:8, "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

Symbolic.


The "First" death then, is the physical death that each person dies on this earth - a physical, but TEMPORARY death from which everyone will be resurrected. Those who are righteous will be resurrected to everlasting life and those who are wicked will be resurrected for the judgment and the "Second Death", believed by nearly ALL to be a physical death also, but this time the death is presumed to be PERMANENT!

 

[LilOlLady]

Uhhhhh, what am I supposed to be terrified of then? Global warming? Muslims?

Total and final permanent separation from the presence of GOD which is more terrifyiing then any terrorits. Global warming. Because they can destroy the body but not the soul.

 

[BluePhantom]

Oh boy....here we go again.

 

[Douger]

Uhhhhh, what am I supposed to be terrified of then? Global warming? Muslims?

murkins. Like the OP. They're a bunch of brainwashed lunatics.

 

[BluePhantom]

Uhhhhh, what am I supposed to be terrified of then? Global warming? Muslims?

murkins. Like the OP. They're a bunch of brainwashed lunatics.

My band in college was named Steel Merkin. I still think it's the best name for a rock band ever created.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Uhhhhh, what am I supposed to be terrified of then? Global warming? Muslims?

Total and final permanent separation from the presence of GOD which is more terrifyiing then any terrorits. Global warming. Because they can destroy the body but not the soul.

Phew, thank goodness, I was worried there was nothing for me to live in fear of.

 

[amrchaos]

Another point is that the name of God is "Yahweh" and this name means "Creator" in the masculine tense - as in "male creator" or as "Father".

The term "God" is extremely inaccurate, as in the old language "God" means an idol.

In the Bible the word translated as "God" is "El" and we know longer know what El was or what El means, but the Bible often uses this El name in its plural form as "Elohim" which is translated too as "God" which again is severely inaccurate.

Elohim being plural could be translated as Gods (plural) but that upsets the Christian claims of a one (1) God so the Bible translations leave out the plural "s".

And in the Bible the primary name given of "Yahweh Elohim" is mistranslated as "LORD God" which is again extremely inaccurate. If translated literally then Yahweh Elohim could be more correctly translated as "Father of the Gods" or "Father of the Elohim".

It is noteworthy that in the New Testament then Jesus referred to the "Father" repeatedly, and since it is recorded in the Greek language then Jesus might have been saying Yahweh in Hebrew or else He was translating the word Yahweh into "Father" which seems highly likely.

As such the word "God" gives out a very wrong perception of the real life entity of Creator or Father of humanity.

Of course I too must use the word "God" since it is so viciously ingrained in our unstudied society.

FYI.

Your ignorance is pretty comical, shows how low your intelligence is. Revelation 20 versus 13-15. Actually read the whole chapter, 20. You will see that the Bible clearly says that the unbelievers will be thrown into a lake of fire. IT also says the grave will give up its dead to be judged.

How is there ignorance in the OP's post? It seems like the basis of his arguement is from a linguistic approach of the Hebrew and a logical deduction of what may occurred with the meanings of words after translation.

In other words, he presents an insightful look at Biblical interpretation that encourages some thought as to the true meaning of the New Testament. That is very difficult to do from a point of ignorance.

 

[JP Cusick]

Rev. 20:14-15, "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

Rev. 21:8, "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

Symbolic.

The "First" death then, is the physical death that each person dies on this earth - a physical, but TEMPORARY death from which everyone will be resurrected. Those who are righteous will be resurrected to everlasting life and those who are wicked will be resurrected for the judgment and the "Second Death", believed by nearly ALL to be a physical death also, but this time the death is presumed to be PERMANENT!

The "second death" means "dead to sin" so only the sin dies while the person lives free of their sins.

Verses = "dead to sin" and "he that is dead is freed from sin" and "Being then made free from sin" and "the wages of sin is death" and more per link here = Romans 6

The "Lake of fire" causes death to sin = 1 Corinthians 3:15 "If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire."

So the person is being "SAVED" by the "FIRE" and not hurt by it.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Rev. 20:14-15, "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

Rev. 21:8, "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

Symbolic.

The "First" death then, is the physical death that each person dies on this earth - a physical, but TEMPORARY death from which everyone will be resurrected. Those who are righteous will be resurrected to everlasting life and those who are wicked will be resurrected for the judgment and the "Second Death", believed by nearly ALL to be a physical death also, but this time the death is presumed to be PERMANENT!

The "second death" means "dead to sin" so only the sin dies while the person lives free of their sins.

Verses = "dead to sin" and "he that is dead is freed from sin" and "Being then made free from sin" and "the wages of sin is death" and more per link here = Romans 6

The "Lake of fire" causes death to sin = 1 Corinthians 3:15 "If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire."

So the person is being "SAVED" by the "FIRE" and not hurt by it.

It also clearly says that whoever name is not found in the book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire. Don't just pick apart parts of versus to fit your understanding. There is everlasting torment in the lake of fire, you cannot deny it like you try.