Blues Man
Diamond Member
- Aug 28, 2016
- 35,513
- 14,899
- 1,530
Why should I listen to "this guy" ?
I don't take Twitter posts seriously no matter who posts them
Navigation
Install the app
How to install the app on iOS
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature currently requires accessing the site using the built-in Safari browser.
More options
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
GMC Sierra EV Denali Pickup Packs 754 hp, 400-Mile Range
- Thread starter abu afak
- Start date
I don't take Twitter posts seriously no matter who posts them
airplanemechanic
Diamond Member
- Nov 8, 2014
- 17,997
- 13,100
- 2,415
The Prius is not the same as the new Nissans
The Prius has 2 separate drivetrains one for the electric and one for the gasoline.
The Nissan only has an electric drivetrain. The ICE engine of the Nissan can be tuned to run much more efficiently because it doesn't have to meet variable power demands as the ICE engine in the Prius does.
A Prius is a hybrid gas electric vehicle. Just like what you describe. The roles the engines play in each car is irrelevant. Either the car is all gas, all electric, or a hybrid.
Last edited:
Blues Man
Diamond Member
- Aug 28, 2016
- 35,513
- 14,899
- 1,530
No it doesn'tA Prius is a hybrid gas electric vehicle. Just like what you describe.
The Prius has parallel drivetrain system that switches between electric and ICE.
The Nisan only has an electric drivetrain and the ICE is not used to power the wheels at all it is only used to charge the battery and because it is only used to charge the battery the engine can be tuned to run more efficiently because it dos not have to supply a variable power output.
No it doesn't
Are you talking about the Nissan Leaf? It is purely electric. It has no ICE. The Chevrolet Bolt had an ICE connected solely to a generator to charge the battery. That might be the model you were thinking about. Unless you were talking about some other Nissan model I'm unaware of.The Prius has parallel drivetrain system that switches between electric and ICE.
The Nisan only has an electric drivetrain and the ICE is not used to power the wheels at all it is only used to charge the battery and because it is only used to charge the battery the engine can be tuned to run more efficiently because it dos not have to supply a variable power output.
- Jan 8, 2011
- 65,115
- 34,521
- 2,605
You don’t have to, however he’s considered an expert by many. He is a best selling author, so not just a Joe Blow.Why should I listen to "this guy" ?
I don't take Twitter posts seriously no matter who posts them
He does make a number of valid points.
Blues Man
Diamond Member
- Aug 28, 2016
- 35,513
- 14,899
- 1,530
No.No it doesn't
Are you talking about the Nissan Leaf? It is purely electric. It has no ICE. The Chevrolet Bolt had an ICE connected solely to a generator to charge the battery. That might be the model you were thinking about. Unless you were talking about some other Nissan model I'm unaware of.
The Nissan cars with this system are not available in the US.
e-POWER system | Innovation |
Nissan’s e-POWER system: Nissan’s various technologies, including electrification, autonomous drive, connected car & service, mobility service, and energy management, are introduced.
airplanemechanic
Diamond Member
- Nov 8, 2014
- 17,997
- 13,100
- 2,415
No it doesn't
The Prius has parallel drivetrain system that switches between electric and ICE.
The Nisan only has an electric drivetrain and the ICE is not used to power the wheels at all it is only used to charge the battery and because it is only used to charge the battery the engine can be tuned to run more efficiently because it dos not have to supply a variable power output.
OMG are you this stupid?
Does this fucking car burn gas and also use electrical power? If so it's a fucking hybrid. A "dual powertrain" is not required.
From Wikipedia's article on hybrid vehicle powertrains:OMG are you this stupid?
Does this fucking car burn gas and also use electrical power? If so it's a fucking hybrid. A "dual powertrain" is not required.
A diesel–electric powertrain [eg from a locomotive] fails the definition of hybrid because the electric drive transmission directly replaces the mechanical transmission rather than being a supplementary source of motive power.
The prime mover in a diesel–electric locomotive is the diesel engine.From Wikipedia's article on hybrid vehicle powertrains:
A diesel–electric powertrain [eg from a locomotive] fails the definition of hybrid because the electric drive transmission directly replaces the mechanical transmission rather than being a supplementary source of motive power.
In a diesel-electric locomotive, the prime mover is the diesel engine that rotates the main generator responsible for producing electricity to power the traction motors that are geared to the drivers. The prime mover can also be a gas turbine instead of a diesel engine.
Prime mover (locomotive) - Wikipedia
airplanemechanic
Diamond Member
- Nov 8, 2014
- 17,997
- 13,100
- 2,415
From Wikipedia's article on hybrid vehicle powertrains:
A diesel–electric powertrain [eg from a locomotive] fails the definition of hybrid because the electric drive transmission directly replaces the mechanical transmission rather than being a supplementary source of motive power.
A train is not a hybrid. A train does not use a battery for power at any time. A train uses a diesel engine to power electric motors that drive the wheels.
God damn you need to study WTF you're talking about.
Last edited:
You missed the point. The definition of hybrid IS that parallel drivetrain. An engine spinning a generator to drive motors spinning the wheels is not a hybrid drivetrain. It's the battery (the use and the charging) that requires that parallel train.A train is not a hybrid. A train does not use a battery for power at any time. A train uses a diesel engine to power electric motors that drive the wheels.
God damn you need to study WTF you're talking about.
airplanemechanic
Diamond Member
- Nov 8, 2014
- 17,997
- 13,100
- 2,415
You missed the point. The definition of hybrid IS that parallel drivetrain. An engine spinning a generator to drive motors spinning the wheels is not a hybrid drivetrain. It's the battery (the use and the charging) that requires that parallel train.
The US does not sell any vehicles as you describe. They are either all gas, all electric, or hybrids like the Prius. No electric vehicle has a transmission, so any that has an engine has to have an actual transmission.
Last edited:
Blues Man
Diamond Member
- Aug 28, 2016
- 35,513
- 14,899
- 1,530
OMG are you this stupid?
Does this fucking car burn gas and also use electrical power? If so it's a fucking hybrid. A "dual powertrain" is not required.
The difference matters IDIOT.
The ICE engine of the Nissan E power cars can be tuned to run at almost 60% thermal efficiency because it only has to operate in a very narrow power band.
No hybrid with a parallel drive system can tune the ICE to that efficiency.
airplanemechanic
Diamond Member
- Nov 8, 2014
- 17,997
- 13,100
- 2,415
The difference matters IDIOT.
The ICE engine of the Nissan E power cars can be tuned to run at almost 60% thermal efficiency because it only has to operate in a very narrow power band.
No hybrid with a parallel drive system can tune the ICE to that efficiency.
I don't give a fuck about the power band, or the thermal efficiency. IF the fucking car uses gas and electricity its a fucking hybrid. Here learn something moron.
A hybrid car has both a gas engine and an electric motor
Hybrid vs. Gas Cars
Explore the pros and cons of hybrid vs. gas cars to see if a hybrid car fits your wants and needs.
www.progressive.com
Your linked source says you're wrong:I don't give a fuck about the power band, or the thermal efficiency. IF the fucking car uses gas and electricity its a fucking hybrid. Here learn something moron.
A hybrid car has both a gas engine and an electric motor
Hybrid vs. Gas Cars
Explore the pros and cons of hybrid vs. gas cars to see if a hybrid car fits your wants and needs.www.progressive.com
Hybrid cars have combustion engines like gas cars and will switch between the combustion engine and the additional electric motor based on the driving speed and conditions. At lower speeds, a hybrid vehicle typically runs on its electric battery. The hybrid's internal computer system tells the vehicle to switch to gas when you accelerate.
Blues Man
Diamond Member
- Aug 28, 2016
- 35,513
- 14,899
- 1,530
Show me whereI don't give a fuck about the power band, or the thermal efficiency. IF the fucking car uses gas and electricity its a fucking hybrid. Here learn something moron.
A hybrid car has both a gas engine and an electric motor
Hybrid vs. Gas Cars
Explore the pros and cons of hybrid vs. gas cars to see if a hybrid car fits your wants and needs.www.progressive.com
No shit Sherlock I already mentioned that these cars are not available in the US.The US does not sell any vehicles as you describe. They are either all gas, all electric, or hybrids like the Prius. No electric vehicle has a transmission, so any that has an engine has to have an actual transmission.
And I never said the E power was NOT a hybrid I said it is not like the Prius which has a parallel drive system
Latest Discussions
- Replies
- 69
- Views
- 349
- Replies
- 8
- Views
- 44
- Replies
- 16
- Views
- 50
Forum List
-
-
-
-
-
Political Satire 8054
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
ObamaCare 781
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
Member Usernotes 469
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-