Global Warming is happening...on Mars

theHawk

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Explain this one warmers:


In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.

Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.

"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said.

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says



Or is this another one of those times we need to conveniently leave out science? :eusa_shhh:
 
Explain this one warmers:


In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.

Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.

"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said.

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says



Or is this another one of those times we need to conveniently leave out science? :eusa_shhh:

God ol' friday! Don't you even bother to investigate the facts before you post your stupidity for all to see!

The total solar irradiance has been decreasing since 1960.

Solar activity & climate: is the sun causing global warming?
 
Explain this one warmers:


In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.

Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.

"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said.

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says



Or is this another one of those times we need to conveniently leave out science? :eusa_shhh:

God ol' friday! Don't you even bother to investigate the facts before you post your stupidity for all to see!

The total solar irradiance has been decreasing since 1960.

Solar activity & climate: is the sun causing global warming?

Did you bother to even skim the article before turning into a AGW Zombie?

"In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row."
 
Yes, and at the same time Uranas is cooling.
Global warming on Mars, ice caps melting


t is hard to understand how anyone could claim global warming is happening on Mars when we can’t even agree what’s happening on the planet we live on. Yet they do, and the alleged reasoning is this; if other planets are warming up, then there is some solar system-wide phenomena at work – and therefore that it isn’t human activity causing climate change here on Earth.

The broadest counter argument depends on a simple premise: we know so little about Mars that it's impossible to say what trends in climate the planet is experiencing, or why changes occur. We do have information from various orbiting missions and the few lander explorations to date, yet even this small amount of data has been misunderstood, in terms of causal complexity and significance.

There are a few basic points about the climate on Mars that are worth reviewing:

Planets do not orbit the sun in perfect circles, sometimes they are slightly closer to the sun, sometimes further away. This is called orbital eccentricity and it contributes far greater changes to Martian climate than to that of the Earth because variations in Mars' orbit are five times greater than the Earth.
Mars has no oceans and only a very thin atmosphere, which means there is very little thermal inertia – the climate is much more susceptible to change caused by external influences.
The whole planet is subject to massive dust storms, and these have many causal effects on the planet’s climate, very little of which we understand yet.
We have virtually no historical data about the climate of Mars prior to the 1970s, except for drawings (and latterly, photographs) that reveal changes in gross surface features (i.e. features that can be seen from Earth through telescopes). It is not possible to tell if current observations reveal frequent or infrequent events, trends or outliers.
 
Yes, and at the same time Uranas is cooling.
Global warming on Mars, ice caps melting


t is hard to understand how anyone could claim global warming is happening on Mars when we can’t even agree what’s happening on the planet we live on. Yet they do, and the alleged reasoning is this; if other planets are warming up, then there is some solar system-wide phenomena at work – and therefore that it isn’t human activity causing climate change here on Earth.

The broadest counter argument depends on a simple premise: we know so little about Mars that it's impossible to say what trends in climate the planet is experiencing, or why changes occur. We do have information from various orbiting missions and the few lander explorations to date, yet even this small amount of data has been misunderstood, in terms of causal complexity and significance.

There are a few basic points about the climate on Mars that are worth reviewing:

Planets do not orbit the sun in perfect circles, sometimes they are slightly closer to the sun, sometimes further away. This is called orbital eccentricity and it contributes far greater changes to Martian climate than to that of the Earth because variations in Mars' orbit are five times greater than the Earth.
Mars has no oceans and only a very thin atmosphere, which means there is very little thermal inertia – the climate is much more susceptible to change caused by external influences.
The whole planet is subject to massive dust storms, and these have many causal effects on the planet’s climate, very little of which we understand yet.
We have virtually no historical data about the climate of Mars prior to the 1970s, except for drawings (and latterly, photographs) that reveal changes in gross surface features (i.e. features that can be seen from Earth through telescopes). It is not possible to tell if current observations reveal frequent or infrequent events, trends or outliers.

You're telling us you've eliminated all other variables in Earth based climate expect for a 60PPM increase in CO2 but you can never show us how this happen....why is that?
 
Hmm.... About a 110 ppm increase in CO2, which is about a 40% increase over the pre-industrial amount, 280 ppm. It has been about 15 million years since we have had this much CO2 in the atmosphere. In fact, during the last interglacial, the level reached 300 ppm, and the sea level was about 6 meters higher than today.

Given the rapidity with which we have put CO2 into the atmosphere, the cryosphere has not had time to respond, but one can clearly see the trend in the melting of the glaciers, land based icecaps, and the Arctic Ice.
 
Hmm.... About a 110 ppm increase in CO2, which is about a 40% increase over the pre-industrial amount, 280 ppm. It has been about 15 million years since we have had this much CO2 in the atmosphere. In fact, during the last interglacial, the level reached 300 ppm, and the sea level was about 6 meters higher than today.

Given the rapidity with which we have put CO2 into the atmosphere, the cryosphere has not had time to respond, but one can clearly see the trend in the melting of the glaciers, land based icecaps, and the Arctic Ice.

Show us how a 110PPM increase in CO2 raises temperature in a laboratory setting
 
I love these threads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Post up something like this and the environmental radicals have a mental meltdown. Its like a stampede of slugs heading for a dish of beer.


Its like I said in a post last week. The environmental radicals like Old Rocks need to perpetuate "global warming" the ensure their mere existence. Imagine the life of social invalids like Chris and Old Rocks when the scam is completely exposed.:badgrin::badgrin::badgrin::badgrin::D Their lives are basically over.

Who couldnt guess that Old Rocks response to this thread woudnt be to post up 1,000 links?????????????????????????????????:2up::2up::2up:
 
Hey Rocks.........I dont think you posted up enough links to repudiate.................


Go.............go...............go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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Hmm.... About a 110 ppm increase in CO2, which is about a 40% increase over the pre-industrial amount, 280 ppm. It has been about 15 million years since we have had this much CO2 in the atmosphere. In fact, during the last interglacial, the level reached 300 ppm, and the sea level was about 6 meters higher than today.

Tell me rocks; how hot do you believe the 400 CO2 atoms in any given million parts of air must get in order to raise the temperature of the other 999,600 atoms even by the smallest measurable amount? Several hundreds of degrees would be my best estimate, but feel free to tell me how hot you believe they would have to get and then describe the mechanism by which you believe they achieve that temperature.

Given the rapidity with which we have put CO2 into the atmosphere, the cryosphere has not had time to respond, but one can clearly see the trend in the melting of the glaciers, land based icecaps, and the Arctic Ice.

Again, you completely ignore the fact that the melting has been going on for some 14,000 years now. The glaciers had melted back almost 2000 miles and sea level had risen some 600 feet before the egyptians built the pyramids. Explain that given your delusion that CO2 drives the climate.
 

Which part of that apparent bible verse do you believe answers the challenge that was made? You keep posting it as if it were a mantra, but the fact is that it proves nothing and doesn't even reference anything approaching proof. It is based on assumption and the "science" it references is also based on assumption. Nothing there is anything like proof rocks.
 
He posts up that link 40 times/week!!! As if it were 2006!!!!:fu::fu::fu::fu::fu::fu::fu:

It is like a religious mantra to him. I have read it from beginning to end and I can't imagine which part of it he beleives constitutes proof of anything. Nothing there mentions any experimental proof, or hard observation, or repeatable result of any kind. The mental state required to actually believe that that represents proof is just sad and an indictment on the public school system of wherever he went to school.
 

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