Global Warming and right-wing Christians

[Brambo]

Two different issues.

One was related to a well understood cycle that is actually in its cooling phase now.

The other is related directly to CO2 in the atmosphere.

One was related to a well understood cycle that is actually in its cooling phase now.

Which cycle is that?

The periodicity of glaciation related to a number of factors most notably Earth's orbital pattern.

I'm glad we're not cooling now. Thank goodness for CO2.

Lol we're not cooling. Sorry you have to invent reality to explain away a world view that doesn't fit your lies.

Lol we're not cooling.

You said we would be. I'm glad we're not.

Sorry you have to invent reality

Yeah, your coral claim was funny.

The coral claim is true, and oh, I misunderstood what you were saying.

Yes the orbital pattern suggests we should be cooling now. Instead we are warming.

Sadly, warming is not a good thing. More CO2 is a very bad thing.

 

[Brambo]

You'd think that supposed right-wingers who call themselves Christians (I'm very critical of them I think of them as Pharisees) would see the obvious parallels with Revelation that Global Warming offers them. Instead they reject it because they think God wouldn't do that to them?

Let's look at the obvious:

Global Warming will cause:

1) Famine - decreased plant productivity as CO2 ppm rises, desertification, soil acidification, Ocean acidification and loss of biomass in the oceans, etc.

2) Pestilence - already disease carrying Mosquitos are making a come-back in areas like southern US and Europe where such insects lost their old habitats, the swamps due to Human draining of the land. Bugs will crawl across a warmer earth to devour crops.

3) Plague - diseases unable to live farther north now infest farther north especially in the oceans there are famous studies of diseases of the sea that have pushed as far north as Alaska. Zika is another example. There's strong evidence that Ebola is seasonal due to humidity/temperature conditions which is why it doesn't spread into the arid zones etc. Disease will follow Global Warming's advance.

4) War - mass migrations of people as lower latitudes become unliveable will lead to inevitable war, always has in the past. Imagine 1 Billion Muslims on the brink of survival fleeing an uninhabitable North Africa and Eurasian plain.

Furthermore, the Bible says that HUMANS are the Stewards of the Earth. Not God.

So in every way Christianity supports the idea that humanity can and does alter the Earth's climate.

In conclusion: Any real Christian would support Global Warming as evidence of the end times. The great Tribulation. It's timed correctly. Jesus Christ is supposed to return, look for him in the House of the Water Bearer, may be a reference to the procession of the Equinox and we are entering the age of Aquarius now.

What better way to convince the world to elect the Anti-Christ than global warming caused mass chaos?

Will this happen in a decade? No....no.

But 100 years from now things could be so bad that indeed the end times will be upon us.

To throw in a little more controversial smack, I think you have to be a buffoon to deny Global Warming, it's so obvious that 75% of the Arctic Sea ice has melted (per mass of total sea ice), and denying Global Warming is like the buffoons of Hy Brasil singing on roof tops as they sink into the sea.

The evidence is overwhelming that by denying Global Warming, these "right-wing Christians" are really cultists, who do not believe in the Bible or God or Christ, but rather are Satanic Parodies, who run around giving real Christians a bad name to the rest of the world that isn't so blind as to be unable to see the effects of Global Warming that are happening...

RIGHT NOW.

Isn't it amazing how it is religious nuts who support the failed theory of global warming? Scientists, on the other hand, realize that nothing happening now, is any different from the very same things that have happened many, many, many times before.

Well it is different. Now it is caused by Human generated CO2.

Prove it.

They already have, time and again. You can look up tons of lectures from Youtube alone, or read the papers online.

Added CO2 in the atmosphere matches the isotopic abundance of burned fossil fuels (so the source is Human).

250 ppm CO2 = about 4watts per square meter of added energy to the system.

Which is about 8x the amount of energy added in a solar maximum event. (or about a 0.5 watt increase in total Solar Irradiance).

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

I never claimed to be an "esteemed Climate expert" moron. Now go bother someone who gives a shit about your scam

You claim it's a scam? But all the evidence points to you being wrong.

Funny....

This below is precisely why I don't believe in the "science" and this new scientific certainty of a doomsday global warming.

1970 - Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age - Scientists See Ice Age In the Future (The Washington Post, January 11, 1970)
1970 - Is Mankind Manufacturing a New Ice Age for Itself? (L.A. Times, January 15, 1970)
1970 - New Ice Age May Descend On Man (Sumter Daily Item, January 26, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Prospect A Chilling One (The Argus-Press, January 26, 1970)
1970 - Pollution's 2-way 'Freeze' On Society(Middlesboro Daily News, January 28, 1970)
1970 - Cold Facts About Pollution (The Southeast Missourian, January 29, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Could Cause Ice Age, Agency Reports (St. Petersburg Times, March 4, 1970)
1970 - Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century (The Boston Globe, April 16, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Called Ice Age Threat (St. Petersburg Times, June 26, 1970)
1970 - U.S. and Soviet Press Studies of a Colder Arctic (The New York Times, July 18, 1970)
1970 - Dirt Will Bring New Ice Age (The Sydney Morning Herald, October 19, 1970)
1971 - Ice Age Refugee Dies Underground(Montreal Gazette, Febuary 17, 1971)
1971 - Pollution Might Lead To Another Ice Age(The Schenectady Gazette, March 22, 1971)
1971 - Pollution May Bring Ice Age - Scientist Rites Risk (The Windsor Star, March 23, 1971)
1971 - U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming(The Washington Post, July 9, 1971)
1971 - Ice Age Around the Corner (Chicago Tribune, July 10, 1971)
1971 - Danger: Ice age may lurk in dusty skies(The Christian Science Monitor, July 12, 1971)
1971 - New Ice Age Coming - It's Already Getting Colder (L.A. Times, October 24, 1971)
1971 - Another Ice Age? Pollution Blocking Sunlight (The Day, November 1, 1971)
1971 - Air Pollution Could Bring An Ice Age(Harlan Daily Enterprise, November 4, 1971)
1972 - Air pollution may cause ice age (Free-Lance Star, February 3, 1972)
1972 - Scientist Says New ice Age Coming (The Ledger, February 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Cometh For Dicey Times (The Sun, May 29, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Coming (Deseret News, September 8, 1972)
1972 - There's a new Ice Age coming! (The Windsor Star, September 9, 1972)
1972 - Scientist predicts new ice age (Free-Lance Star, September 11, 1972)
1972 - British Expert on Climate Change Says New Ice Age Creeping Over Northern Hemisphere(Lewiston Evening Journal, September 11, 1972)
1972 - Climate Seen Cooling For Return Of Ice Age (The Portsmouth Times, ‎September 11, 1972‎)
1972 - New Ice Age Slipping Over North (The Press-Courier, September 11, 1972)
1972 - Beginning of new ice age (The Canberra Times, September 12, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Begins A New Assault In North(The Age, September 12, 1972)
1972 - Weather To Get Colder (Montreal Gazette, ‎September 12, 1972‎)
1972 - British climate expert predicts new Ice Age (The Christian Science Monitor, September 23, 1972)
1972 - Scientist Sees Chilling Signs of New Ice Age (L.A. Times, September 24, 1972)
1972 - Science: Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, November 13, 1972)
1972 - Geologist at Case Traces Long Winters - Sees Ice Age in 20 Years (Youngstown Vindicator, December 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age On Its Way, Scientist Says (Toledo Blade, December 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Predicted In About 200 Years (The Portsmouth Times, December 14, 1972)
1973 - New Ice Age coming? (Popular Science, January 1973)
1973 - The Ice Age Cometh (The Saturday Review, March 24, 1973)
1973 - Believe new ice age is coming (The Bryan Times, March 31, 1973)
1973 - 'Man-made Ice Age' Worries Scientists (The Free Lance-Star, June 22, 1973)
1973 - Fear Of Man-made Ice Age (The Spartanburg Herald, June 28, 1973)
1973 - Possibility Of Ice Age Worries The Scientists (The Argus-Press, November 12, 1973)
1973 - Weather-watchers think another ice age may be on the way (The Christian Science Monitor, December 11, 1973)
1974 - Ominous Changes in the World's Weather(PDF) (Fortune Magazine, February 1974)
1974 - Atmospheric Dirt: Ice Age Coming?‎(Pittsburgh Press, February 28, 1974)
1974 - Support for theory of a cooling world (The Canberra Times, May 16, 1974)
1974 - New evidence indicates ice age here(Eugene Register-Guard, May 29, 1974)
1974 - Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, June 24, 1974)
1974 - 2 Scientists Think 'Little' Ice Age Near(Hartford Courant, August 11, 1974)
1974 - Climate: A Key to the World's Food Supply(NOAA, October, 1974)
1974 - Ice Age, worse food crisis seen (Chicago Tribune, October 30, 1974)
1974 - Imminent Arrival of the Ice (Radio Times, November 14, 1974)
1974 - Making a BBC Science Special [The Weather Machine] (New Scientist, November 14, 1974)
1974 - The Weather Machine (BBC, November 20, 1974)
1974 - New ice age 'could be in our lifetime' (The Canberra Times, November 22, 1974)
1974 - Believes Pollution Could Bring On Ice Age(Ludington Daily News, December 4, 1974)
1974 - Pollution Could Spur Ice Age, Nasa Says(Beaver Country Times, ‎December 4, 1974‎)
1974 - Air Pollution May Trigger Ice Age, Scientists Feel (The Telegraph, ‎December 5, 1974‎)
1974 - More Air Pollution Could Trigger Ice Age Disaster (Daily Sentinel, ‎December 5, 1974‎)
1974 - Scientists Fear Smog Could Cause Ice Age(Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, December 5, 1974)
1975 - Climate Changes Called Ominous (The New York Times, January 19, 1975)
1975 - Climate Change: Chilling Possibilities(Science News, March 1, 1975)
1975 - B-r-r-r-r: New Ice Age on way soon?(Chicago Tribune, March 2, 1975)
1975 - Cooling Trends Arouse Fear That New Ice Age Coming (Eugene Register-Guard, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Another Ice Age Due? Arctic Ice Expands In Last Decade (Youngstown Vindicator, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Earth Headed For Another Ice Age?(Reading Eagle, March 2, 1975)
1975 - New Ice Age Dawning? Significant Shift In Climate Seen (Times Daily, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - There's Troublesome Weather Ahead (Tri City Herald, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Earth Doomed To Live Through Another Ice Age? (The Robesonian, ‎March 3, 1975‎)
1975 - The Ice Age cometh: the system that controls our climate (Chicago Tribune, April 13, 1975)
1975 - The Cooling World (Newsweek, April 28, 1975)
1975 - Cooling trend may signal coming of another Ice Age (The Sun, May 16, 1975)
1975 - Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead (PDF) (The New York Times, May 21, 1975)
1975 - The Armadillos Are Heading South; Ice Age Coming? Chilling Thought for Humanity.(Chicago Tribune, June 2, 1975)
1975 - Summer of A New Ice Age (The Age, June 5, 1975)
1975 - In the Grip of a New Ice Age? (International Wildlife, July-August, 1975)
1975 - Experts ponder another ice age (The Spokesman-Review, September 8, 1975)
1975 - Oil Spill Could Cause New Ice Age(Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, December 11, 1975)
1976 - Deadly Harvest [Film] (Starring: Kim Cattrall, Clint Walker, 1976)
1976 - The Cooling: Has the Next Ice Age Already Begun? [Book] (Lowell Ponte, 1976)
1976 - Ice Age Predicted (Reading Eagle, January 22, 1976)
1976 - Ice Age Predicted In Century (Bangor Daily News, January 22, 1976)
1976 - It's Going To Get Chilly About 125 Years From Now (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, January 23, 1976)
1976 - Worrisome CIA Report; Even U.S. Farms May be Hit by Cooling Trend (U.S. News & World Report, May 31, 1976)
1977 - Blizzard - What Happens if it Doesn't Stop? [Book] (George Stone, 1977)
1977 - The Weather Conspiracy: The Coming of the New Ice Age [Book] (The Impact Team, 1977)
1977 - The Ice Age Cometh... (New York Magazine, January 31, 1977)
1977 - The Big Freeze (Time Magazine, January 31, 1977)
1977 - Has The Ice Age Cometh Again? (Calgary Herald, February 1, 1977)
1977 - Space Mirrors Proposed To Prevent Crop Freezes (Bangor Daily News, February 7, 1977)
1977 - Sunspot lull may bring on new ice age(The Christian Science Monitor, March 30, 1977)
1977 - We Will Freeze in the Dark (Capital Cities Communications Documentary, Host: Nancy Dickerson, April 12, 1977)
1978 - Ice! [Book] (Arnold Federbush, 1978)
1978 - The New Ice Age [Book] (Henry Gilfond, 1978)
1978 - Winter May Be Colder Than In Last Ice Age(Deseret News, January 2, 1978)
1978 - Current Winters Seen Colder Than In Ice Age‎ (The Telegraph, January 3, 1978)
1978 - Winter Temperatures Colder Than Last Ice Age (Eugene Register-Guard, Eugene Register-Guard, January 3, 1978)
1978 - International Team of Specialists Finds No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend in Northern Hemisphere (The New York Times, January 5, 1978)
1978 - Little Ice Age: Severe winters and cool summers ahead (Calgary Herald, January 10, 1978)
1978 - Winters Will Get Colder, 'we're Entering Little Ice Age' (Daily Record, January 10, 1978)
1978 - Geologist Says Winters Getting Colder(Middlesboro Daily News, January 16, 1978)
1978 - It's Going To Get Colder (Boca Raton News, ‎January 17, 1978‎)
1978 - Another Ice Age? (Kentucky New Era, February 12, 1978)
1978 - Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, ‎February 13, 1978‎)
1978 - The Coming Ice Age (In Search Of TV Show, Season 2, Episode 23, Host: Leonard Nimoy, May 1978)
1978 - An Ice Age Is Coming Weather Expert Fears (Milwaukee Sentinel, November 17, 1978)
1979 - A Choice of Catastrophes - The Disasters That Threaten Our World [Book] (Isaac Asimov, 1979)
1979 - The Sixth Winter [Book] (John R. Gribbin, 1979)
1979 - The New Ice Age Cometh (The Age, January 16, 1979)
1979 - Ice Age Building Up (Daily Record, June 5, 1979)
1979 - Large Glacial Buildup Could Mean Ice Age(Daily Chronicle, June 5, 1979)
1979 - Ice Age On Its Way (Lewiston Morning Tribune, June 7, 1979)
1979 - Get Ready to Freeze (Daily Chronicle, October 12, 1979)
1979 - New ice age almost upon us? (The Christian Science Monitor, November 14, 1979)

You didn't quote a single Climate Scientist from the time, because none of them thought another Ice Age was coming.

Obviously you didn't bother to read any of the articles and views of a coming ice age from scientists, as I just posted over 50 links not even 15 minutes prior to your response. Yes there were scientists experts who pondered another ice age approaching, they feared smog could even be linked to another coming ice age among other concerns. I have heard all these "doomsday" messages before, and you are as foolish (and no different) as those who were so certain of their position back in the 70s.

By the way, where is all this costal doomsday flooding global warming [so called] experts love to predict among their climate fear factors?

The ones I click on were mere newspaper articles with prediction of 1000 to 5000 years in the future. How many of them were peer reviewed scientific papers?

Don't most scientist agree that the major effects of a warmer earth will not be felt till the later half of this century?

You show me one article or scientific view that showed scientists agreeing with your "effects of a warmer earth" during the effects of the 70s and not one amidst all the doom and gloom during the earth's warming cycle (which is SO easy to do)

 

[LordBrownTrout]

You'd think that supposed right-wingers who call themselves Christians (I'm very critical of them I think of them as Pharisees) would see the obvious parallels with Revelation that Global Warming offers them. Instead they reject it because they think God wouldn't do that to them?

Let's look at the obvious:

Global Warming will cause:

1) Famine - decreased plant productivity as CO2 ppm rises, desertification, soil acidification, Ocean acidification and loss of biomass in the oceans, etc.

2) Pestilence - already disease carrying Mosquitos are making a come-back in areas like southern US and Europe where such insects lost their old habitats, the swamps due to Human draining of the land. Bugs will crawl across a warmer earth to devour crops.

3) Plague - diseases unable to live farther north now infest farther north especially in the oceans there are famous studies of diseases of the sea that have pushed as far north as Alaska. Zika is another example. There's strong evidence that Ebola is seasonal due to humidity/temperature conditions which is why it doesn't spread into the arid zones etc. Disease will follow Global Warming's advance.

4) War - mass migrations of people as lower latitudes become unliveable will lead to inevitable war, always has in the past. Imagine 1 Billion Muslims on the brink of survival fleeing an uninhabitable North Africa and Eurasian plain.

Furthermore, the Bible says that HUMANS are the Stewards of the Earth. Not God.

So in every way Christianity supports the idea that humanity can and does alter the Earth's climate.

In conclusion: Any real Christian would support Global Warming as evidence of the end times. The great Tribulation. It's timed correctly. Jesus Christ is supposed to return, look for him in the House of the Water Bearer, may be a reference to the procession of the Equinox and we are entering the age of Aquarius now.

What better way to convince the world to elect the Anti-Christ than global warming caused mass chaos?

Will this happen in a decade? No....no.

But 100 years from now things could be so bad that indeed the end times will be upon us.

To throw in a little more controversial smack, I think you have to be a buffoon to deny Global Warming, it's so obvious that 75% of the Arctic Sea ice has melted (per mass of total sea ice), and denying Global Warming is like the buffoons of Hy Brasil singing on roof tops as they sink into the sea.

The evidence is overwhelming that by denying Global Warming, these "right-wing Christians" are really cultists, who do not believe in the Bible or God or Christ, but rather are Satanic Parodies, who run around giving real Christians a bad name to the rest of the world that isn't so blind as to be unable to see the effects of Global Warming that are happening...

RIGHT NOW.

Isn't it amazing how it is religious nuts who support the failed theory of global warming? Scientists, on the other hand, realize that nothing happening now, is any different from the very same things that have happened many, many, many times before.

Well it is different. Now it is caused by Human generated CO2.

No, it is not. Neptune, Jupiter, and Pluto are undergoing rapid global warming. Man is but a pinprick.....and not even that on this planet.

 

[Brambo]

You'd think that supposed right-wingers who call themselves Christians (I'm very critical of them I think of them as Pharisees) would see the obvious parallels with Revelation that Global Warming offers them. Instead they reject it because they think God wouldn't do that to them?

Let's look at the obvious:

Global Warming will cause:

1) Famine - decreased plant productivity as CO2 ppm rises, desertification, soil acidification, Ocean acidification and loss of biomass in the oceans, etc.

2) Pestilence - already disease carrying Mosquitos are making a come-back in areas like southern US and Europe where such insects lost their old habitats, the swamps due to Human draining of the land. Bugs will crawl across a warmer earth to devour crops.

3) Plague - diseases unable to live farther north now infest farther north especially in the oceans there are famous studies of diseases of the sea that have pushed as far north as Alaska. Zika is another example. There's strong evidence that Ebola is seasonal due to humidity/temperature conditions which is why it doesn't spread into the arid zones etc. Disease will follow Global Warming's advance.

4) War - mass migrations of people as lower latitudes become unliveable will lead to inevitable war, always has in the past. Imagine 1 Billion Muslims on the brink of survival fleeing an uninhabitable North Africa and Eurasian plain.

Furthermore, the Bible says that HUMANS are the Stewards of the Earth. Not God.

So in every way Christianity supports the idea that humanity can and does alter the Earth's climate.

In conclusion: Any real Christian would support Global Warming as evidence of the end times. The great Tribulation. It's timed correctly. Jesus Christ is supposed to return, look for him in the House of the Water Bearer, may be a reference to the procession of the Equinox and we are entering the age of Aquarius now.

What better way to convince the world to elect the Anti-Christ than global warming caused mass chaos?

Will this happen in a decade? No....no.

But 100 years from now things could be so bad that indeed the end times will be upon us.

To throw in a little more controversial smack, I think you have to be a buffoon to deny Global Warming, it's so obvious that 75% of the Arctic Sea ice has melted (per mass of total sea ice), and denying Global Warming is like the buffoons of Hy Brasil singing on roof tops as they sink into the sea.

The evidence is overwhelming that by denying Global Warming, these "right-wing Christians" are really cultists, who do not believe in the Bible or God or Christ, but rather are Satanic Parodies, who run around giving real Christians a bad name to the rest of the world that isn't so blind as to be unable to see the effects of Global Warming that are happening...

RIGHT NOW.

Isn't it amazing how it is religious nuts who support the failed theory of global warming? Scientists, on the other hand, realize that nothing happening now, is any different from the very same things that have happened many, many, many times before.

Well it is different. Now it is caused by Human generated CO2.

No, it is not. Neptune, Jupiter, and Pluto are undergoing rapid global warming. Man is but a pinprick.....and not even that on this planet.

No they aren't...where'd you hear that bunk?

 

[westwall]

You'd think that supposed right-wingers who call themselves Christians (I'm very critical of them I think of them as Pharisees) would see the obvious parallels with Revelation that Global Warming offers them. Instead they reject it because they think God wouldn't do that to them?

Let's look at the obvious:

Global Warming will cause:

1) Famine - decreased plant productivity as CO2 ppm rises, desertification, soil acidification, Ocean acidification and loss of biomass in the oceans, etc.

2) Pestilence - already disease carrying Mosquitos are making a come-back in areas like southern US and Europe where such insects lost their old habitats, the swamps due to Human draining of the land. Bugs will crawl across a warmer earth to devour crops.

3) Plague - diseases unable to live farther north now infest farther north especially in the oceans there are famous studies of diseases of the sea that have pushed as far north as Alaska. Zika is another example. There's strong evidence that Ebola is seasonal due to humidity/temperature conditions which is why it doesn't spread into the arid zones etc. Disease will follow Global Warming's advance.

4) War - mass migrations of people as lower latitudes become unliveable will lead to inevitable war, always has in the past. Imagine 1 Billion Muslims on the brink of survival fleeing an uninhabitable North Africa and Eurasian plain.

Furthermore, the Bible says that HUMANS are the Stewards of the Earth. Not God.

So in every way Christianity supports the idea that humanity can and does alter the Earth's climate.

In conclusion: Any real Christian would support Global Warming as evidence of the end times. The great Tribulation. It's timed correctly. Jesus Christ is supposed to return, look for him in the House of the Water Bearer, may be a reference to the procession of the Equinox and we are entering the age of Aquarius now.

What better way to convince the world to elect the Anti-Christ than global warming caused mass chaos?

Will this happen in a decade? No....no.

But 100 years from now things could be so bad that indeed the end times will be upon us.

To throw in a little more controversial smack, I think you have to be a buffoon to deny Global Warming, it's so obvious that 75% of the Arctic Sea ice has melted (per mass of total sea ice), and denying Global Warming is like the buffoons of Hy Brasil singing on roof tops as they sink into the sea.

The evidence is overwhelming that by denying Global Warming, these "right-wing Christians" are really cultists, who do not believe in the Bible or God or Christ, but rather are Satanic Parodies, who run around giving real Christians a bad name to the rest of the world that isn't so blind as to be unable to see the effects of Global Warming that are happening...

RIGHT NOW.

Isn't it amazing how it is religious nuts who support the failed theory of global warming? Scientists, on the other hand, realize that nothing happening now, is any different from the very same things that have happened many, many, many times before.

Well it is different. Now it is caused by Human generated CO2.

Prove it.

They already have, time and again. You can look up tons of lectures from Youtube alone, or read the papers online.

Added CO2 in the atmosphere matches the isotopic abundance of burned fossil fuels (so the source is Human).

250 ppm CO2 = about 4watts per square meter of added energy to the system.

Which is about 8x the amount of energy added in a solar maximum event. (or about a 0.5 watt increase in total Solar Irradiance).

No, they haven't. They have trotted out cute little computer models (which are not data, just so you know) that predict all sorts of silly things. They have ALL been wrong. Take your ocean acidification claim for instance. The facts are we could burn every carbon bearing rock on the planet and the net result would be to lower the pH from 8.1 to 8.0. That is called a fact. The coral bleaching has been shown to be the result of sun tan lotion. Man caused for certain, but has nothing to do with CO2.

Your arguments have all been refuted many times over and that was done YEARS ago. You need to catch up.

 

[Brambo]

You'd think that supposed right-wingers who call themselves Christians (I'm very critical of them I think of them as Pharisees) would see the obvious parallels with Revelation that Global Warming offers them. Instead they reject it because they think God wouldn't do that to them?

Let's look at the obvious:

Global Warming will cause:

1) Famine - decreased plant productivity as CO2 ppm rises, desertification, soil acidification, Ocean acidification and loss of biomass in the oceans, etc.

2) Pestilence - already disease carrying Mosquitos are making a come-back in areas like southern US and Europe where such insects lost their old habitats, the swamps due to Human draining of the land. Bugs will crawl across a warmer earth to devour crops.

3) Plague - diseases unable to live farther north now infest farther north especially in the oceans there are famous studies of diseases of the sea that have pushed as far north as Alaska. Zika is another example. There's strong evidence that Ebola is seasonal due to humidity/temperature conditions which is why it doesn't spread into the arid zones etc. Disease will follow Global Warming's advance.

4) War - mass migrations of people as lower latitudes become unliveable will lead to inevitable war, always has in the past. Imagine 1 Billion Muslims on the brink of survival fleeing an uninhabitable North Africa and Eurasian plain.

Furthermore, the Bible says that HUMANS are the Stewards of the Earth. Not God.

So in every way Christianity supports the idea that humanity can and does alter the Earth's climate.

In conclusion: Any real Christian would support Global Warming as evidence of the end times. The great Tribulation. It's timed correctly. Jesus Christ is supposed to return, look for him in the House of the Water Bearer, may be a reference to the procession of the Equinox and we are entering the age of Aquarius now.

What better way to convince the world to elect the Anti-Christ than global warming caused mass chaos?

Will this happen in a decade? No....no.

But 100 years from now things could be so bad that indeed the end times will be upon us.

To throw in a little more controversial smack, I think you have to be a buffoon to deny Global Warming, it's so obvious that 75% of the Arctic Sea ice has melted (per mass of total sea ice), and denying Global Warming is like the buffoons of Hy Brasil singing on roof tops as they sink into the sea.

The evidence is overwhelming that by denying Global Warming, these "right-wing Christians" are really cultists, who do not believe in the Bible or God or Christ, but rather are Satanic Parodies, who run around giving real Christians a bad name to the rest of the world that isn't so blind as to be unable to see the effects of Global Warming that are happening...

RIGHT NOW.

Isn't it amazing how it is religious nuts who support the failed theory of global warming? Scientists, on the other hand, realize that nothing happening now, is any different from the very same things that have happened many, many, many times before.

Well it is different. Now it is caused by Human generated CO2.

Prove it.

They already have, time and again. You can look up tons of lectures from Youtube alone, or read the papers online.

Added CO2 in the atmosphere matches the isotopic abundance of burned fossil fuels (so the source is Human).

250 ppm CO2 = about 4watts per square meter of added energy to the system.

Which is about 8x the amount of energy added in a solar maximum event. (or about a 0.5 watt increase in total Solar Irradiance).

No, they haven't. They have trotted out cute little computer models (which are not data, just so you know) that predict all sorts of silly things. They have ALL been wrong. Take your ocean acidification claim for instance. The facts are we could burn every carbon bearing rock on the planet and the net result would be to lower the pH from 8.1 to 8.0. That is called a fact. The coral bleaching has been shown to be the result of sun tan lotion. Man caused for certain, but has nothing to do with CO2.

Your arguments have all been refuted many times over and that was done YEARS ago. You need to catch up.

Wrong, computer modelling is different than what we are discussing. The warming of the Earth is a data set...not a model. Models are for things like what will this warming do to the climate. Completely different issue.

The Earth has warmed...we can compare it to the past (paleo) climate.

You do realize the Earth is absolutely warming right?

 

[flacaltenn]

I never claimed to be an "esteemed Climate expert" moron. Now go bother someone who gives a shit about your scam

You claim it's a scam? But all the evidence points to you being wrong.

Funny....

This below is precisely why I don't believe in the "science" and this new scientific certainty of a doomsday global warming.

1970 - Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age - Scientists See Ice Age In the Future (The Washington Post, January 11, 1970)
1970 - Is Mankind Manufacturing a New Ice Age for Itself? (L.A. Times, January 15, 1970)
1970 - New Ice Age May Descend On Man (Sumter Daily Item, January 26, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Prospect A Chilling One (The Argus-Press, January 26, 1970)
1970 - Pollution's 2-way 'Freeze' On Society(Middlesboro Daily News, January 28, 1970)
1970 - Cold Facts About Pollution (The Southeast Missourian, January 29, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Could Cause Ice Age, Agency Reports (St. Petersburg Times, March 4, 1970)
1970 - Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century (The Boston Globe, April 16, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Called Ice Age Threat (St. Petersburg Times, June 26, 1970)
1970 - U.S. and Soviet Press Studies of a Colder Arctic (The New York Times, July 18, 1970)
1970 - Dirt Will Bring New Ice Age (The Sydney Morning Herald, October 19, 1970)
1971 - Ice Age Refugee Dies Underground(Montreal Gazette, Febuary 17, 1971)
1971 - Pollution Might Lead To Another Ice Age(The Schenectady Gazette, March 22, 1971)
1971 - Pollution May Bring Ice Age - Scientist Rites Risk (The Windsor Star, March 23, 1971)
1971 - U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming(The Washington Post, July 9, 1971)
1971 - Ice Age Around the Corner (Chicago Tribune, July 10, 1971)
1971 - Danger: Ice age may lurk in dusty skies(The Christian Science Monitor, July 12, 1971)
1971 - New Ice Age Coming - It's Already Getting Colder (L.A. Times, October 24, 1971)
1971 - Another Ice Age? Pollution Blocking Sunlight (The Day, November 1, 1971)
1971 - Air Pollution Could Bring An Ice Age(Harlan Daily Enterprise, November 4, 1971)
1972 - Air pollution may cause ice age (Free-Lance Star, February 3, 1972)
1972 - Scientist Says New ice Age Coming (The Ledger, February 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Cometh For Dicey Times (The Sun, May 29, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Coming (Deseret News, September 8, 1972)
1972 - There's a new Ice Age coming! (The Windsor Star, September 9, 1972)
1972 - Scientist predicts new ice age (Free-Lance Star, September 11, 1972)
1972 - British Expert on Climate Change Says New Ice Age Creeping Over Northern Hemisphere(Lewiston Evening Journal, September 11, 1972)
1972 - Climate Seen Cooling For Return Of Ice Age (The Portsmouth Times, ‎September 11, 1972‎)
1972 - New Ice Age Slipping Over North (The Press-Courier, September 11, 1972)
1972 - Beginning of new ice age (The Canberra Times, September 12, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Begins A New Assault In North(The Age, September 12, 1972)
1972 - Weather To Get Colder (Montreal Gazette, ‎September 12, 1972‎)
1972 - British climate expert predicts new Ice Age (The Christian Science Monitor, September 23, 1972)
1972 - Scientist Sees Chilling Signs of New Ice Age (L.A. Times, September 24, 1972)
1972 - Science: Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, November 13, 1972)
1972 - Geologist at Case Traces Long Winters - Sees Ice Age in 20 Years (Youngstown Vindicator, December 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age On Its Way, Scientist Says (Toledo Blade, December 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Predicted In About 200 Years (The Portsmouth Times, December 14, 1972)
1973 - New Ice Age coming? (Popular Science, January 1973)
1973 - The Ice Age Cometh (The Saturday Review, March 24, 1973)
1973 - Believe new ice age is coming (The Bryan Times, March 31, 1973)
1973 - 'Man-made Ice Age' Worries Scientists (The Free Lance-Star, June 22, 1973)
1973 - Fear Of Man-made Ice Age (The Spartanburg Herald, June 28, 1973)
1973 - Possibility Of Ice Age Worries The Scientists (The Argus-Press, November 12, 1973)
1973 - Weather-watchers think another ice age may be on the way (The Christian Science Monitor, December 11, 1973)
1974 - Ominous Changes in the World's Weather(PDF) (Fortune Magazine, February 1974)
1974 - Atmospheric Dirt: Ice Age Coming?‎(Pittsburgh Press, February 28, 1974)
1974 - Support for theory of a cooling world (The Canberra Times, May 16, 1974)
1974 - New evidence indicates ice age here(Eugene Register-Guard, May 29, 1974)
1974 - Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, June 24, 1974)
1974 - 2 Scientists Think 'Little' Ice Age Near(Hartford Courant, August 11, 1974)
1974 - Climate: A Key to the World's Food Supply(NOAA, October, 1974)
1974 - Ice Age, worse food crisis seen (Chicago Tribune, October 30, 1974)
1974 - Imminent Arrival of the Ice (Radio Times, November 14, 1974)
1974 - Making a BBC Science Special [The Weather Machine] (New Scientist, November 14, 1974)
1974 - The Weather Machine (BBC, November 20, 1974)
1974 - New ice age 'could be in our lifetime' (The Canberra Times, November 22, 1974)
1974 - Believes Pollution Could Bring On Ice Age(Ludington Daily News, December 4, 1974)
1974 - Pollution Could Spur Ice Age, Nasa Says(Beaver Country Times, ‎December 4, 1974‎)
1974 - Air Pollution May Trigger Ice Age, Scientists Feel (The Telegraph, ‎December 5, 1974‎)
1974 - More Air Pollution Could Trigger Ice Age Disaster (Daily Sentinel, ‎December 5, 1974‎)
1974 - Scientists Fear Smog Could Cause Ice Age(Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, December 5, 1974)
1975 - Climate Changes Called Ominous (The New York Times, January 19, 1975)
1975 - Climate Change: Chilling Possibilities(Science News, March 1, 1975)
1975 - B-r-r-r-r: New Ice Age on way soon?(Chicago Tribune, March 2, 1975)
1975 - Cooling Trends Arouse Fear That New Ice Age Coming (Eugene Register-Guard, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Another Ice Age Due? Arctic Ice Expands In Last Decade (Youngstown Vindicator, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Earth Headed For Another Ice Age?(Reading Eagle, March 2, 1975)
1975 - New Ice Age Dawning? Significant Shift In Climate Seen (Times Daily, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - There's Troublesome Weather Ahead (Tri City Herald, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Earth Doomed To Live Through Another Ice Age? (The Robesonian, ‎March 3, 1975‎)
1975 - The Ice Age cometh: the system that controls our climate (Chicago Tribune, April 13, 1975)
1975 - The Cooling World (Newsweek, April 28, 1975)
1975 - Cooling trend may signal coming of another Ice Age (The Sun, May 16, 1975)
1975 - Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead (PDF) (The New York Times, May 21, 1975)
1975 - The Armadillos Are Heading South; Ice Age Coming? Chilling Thought for Humanity.(Chicago Tribune, June 2, 1975)
1975 - Summer of A New Ice Age (The Age, June 5, 1975)
1975 - In the Grip of a New Ice Age? (International Wildlife, July-August, 1975)
1975 - Experts ponder another ice age (The Spokesman-Review, September 8, 1975)
1975 - Oil Spill Could Cause New Ice Age(Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, December 11, 1975)
1976 - Deadly Harvest [Film] (Starring: Kim Cattrall, Clint Walker, 1976)
1976 - The Cooling: Has the Next Ice Age Already Begun? [Book] (Lowell Ponte, 1976)
1976 - Ice Age Predicted (Reading Eagle, January 22, 1976)
1976 - Ice Age Predicted In Century (Bangor Daily News, January 22, 1976)
1976 - It's Going To Get Chilly About 125 Years From Now (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, January 23, 1976)
1976 - Worrisome CIA Report; Even U.S. Farms May be Hit by Cooling Trend (U.S. News & World Report, May 31, 1976)
1977 - Blizzard - What Happens if it Doesn't Stop? [Book] (George Stone, 1977)
1977 - The Weather Conspiracy: The Coming of the New Ice Age [Book] (The Impact Team, 1977)
1977 - The Ice Age Cometh... (New York Magazine, January 31, 1977)
1977 - The Big Freeze (Time Magazine, January 31, 1977)
1977 - Has The Ice Age Cometh Again? (Calgary Herald, February 1, 1977)
1977 - Space Mirrors Proposed To Prevent Crop Freezes (Bangor Daily News, February 7, 1977)
1977 - Sunspot lull may bring on new ice age(The Christian Science Monitor, March 30, 1977)
1977 - We Will Freeze in the Dark (Capital Cities Communications Documentary, Host: Nancy Dickerson, April 12, 1977)
1978 - Ice! [Book] (Arnold Federbush, 1978)
1978 - The New Ice Age [Book] (Henry Gilfond, 1978)
1978 - Winter May Be Colder Than In Last Ice Age(Deseret News, January 2, 1978)
1978 - Current Winters Seen Colder Than In Ice Age‎ (The Telegraph, January 3, 1978)
1978 - Winter Temperatures Colder Than Last Ice Age (Eugene Register-Guard, Eugene Register-Guard, January 3, 1978)
1978 - International Team of Specialists Finds No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend in Northern Hemisphere (The New York Times, January 5, 1978)
1978 - Little Ice Age: Severe winters and cool summers ahead (Calgary Herald, January 10, 1978)
1978 - Winters Will Get Colder, 'we're Entering Little Ice Age' (Daily Record, January 10, 1978)
1978 - Geologist Says Winters Getting Colder(Middlesboro Daily News, January 16, 1978)
1978 - It's Going To Get Colder (Boca Raton News, ‎January 17, 1978‎)
1978 - Another Ice Age? (Kentucky New Era, February 12, 1978)
1978 - Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, ‎February 13, 1978‎)
1978 - The Coming Ice Age (In Search Of TV Show, Season 2, Episode 23, Host: Leonard Nimoy, May 1978)
1978 - An Ice Age Is Coming Weather Expert Fears (Milwaukee Sentinel, November 17, 1978)
1979 - A Choice of Catastrophes - The Disasters That Threaten Our World [Book] (Isaac Asimov, 1979)
1979 - The Sixth Winter [Book] (John R. Gribbin, 1979)
1979 - The New Ice Age Cometh (The Age, January 16, 1979)
1979 - Ice Age Building Up (Daily Record, June 5, 1979)
1979 - Large Glacial Buildup Could Mean Ice Age(Daily Chronicle, June 5, 1979)
1979 - Ice Age On Its Way (Lewiston Morning Tribune, June 7, 1979)
1979 - Get Ready to Freeze (Daily Chronicle, October 12, 1979)
1979 - New ice age almost upon us? (The Christian Science Monitor, November 14, 1979)

You didn't quote a single Climate Scientist from the time, because none of them thought another Ice Age was coming.

Obviously you didn't bother to read any of the articles and views of a coming ice age from scientists, as I just posted over 50 links not even 15 minutes prior to your response. Yes there were scientists experts who pondered another ice age approaching, they feared smog could even be linked to another coming ice age among other concerns. I have heard all these "doomsday" messages before, and you are as foolish (and no different) as those who were so certain of their position back in the 70s.

By the way, where is all this costal doomsday flooding global warming [so called] experts love to predict among their climate fear factors?

The ones I click on were mere newspaper articles with prediction of 1000 to 5000 years in the future. How many of them were peer reviewed scientific papers?

Don't most scientist agree that the major effects of a warmer earth will not be felt till the later half of this century?

Absolutely.. Any claims that "climate science" tells us that the effects are already devastating the planet -- are lying.. All of these "weather events" attributed to GW are not supported by the science.

See Bray and von Storch Surveys of Climate Science for example... THe EFFECTS are 100 years out IF the latest REVISED models are to be believed.

 

[Brambo]

You claim it's a scam? But all the evidence points to you being wrong.

Funny....

This below is precisely why I don't believe in the "science" and this new scientific certainty of a doomsday global warming.

1970 - Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age - Scientists See Ice Age In the Future (The Washington Post, January 11, 1970)
1970 - Is Mankind Manufacturing a New Ice Age for Itself? (L.A. Times, January 15, 1970)
1970 - New Ice Age May Descend On Man (Sumter Daily Item, January 26, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Prospect A Chilling One (The Argus-Press, January 26, 1970)
1970 - Pollution's 2-way 'Freeze' On Society(Middlesboro Daily News, January 28, 1970)
1970 - Cold Facts About Pollution (The Southeast Missourian, January 29, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Could Cause Ice Age, Agency Reports (St. Petersburg Times, March 4, 1970)
1970 - Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century (The Boston Globe, April 16, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Called Ice Age Threat (St. Petersburg Times, June 26, 1970)
1970 - U.S. and Soviet Press Studies of a Colder Arctic (The New York Times, July 18, 1970)
1970 - Dirt Will Bring New Ice Age (The Sydney Morning Herald, October 19, 1970)
1971 - Ice Age Refugee Dies Underground(Montreal Gazette, Febuary 17, 1971)
1971 - Pollution Might Lead To Another Ice Age(The Schenectady Gazette, March 22, 1971)
1971 - Pollution May Bring Ice Age - Scientist Rites Risk (The Windsor Star, March 23, 1971)
1971 - U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming(The Washington Post, July 9, 1971)
1971 - Ice Age Around the Corner (Chicago Tribune, July 10, 1971)
1971 - Danger: Ice age may lurk in dusty skies(The Christian Science Monitor, July 12, 1971)
1971 - New Ice Age Coming - It's Already Getting Colder (L.A. Times, October 24, 1971)
1971 - Another Ice Age? Pollution Blocking Sunlight (The Day, November 1, 1971)
1971 - Air Pollution Could Bring An Ice Age(Harlan Daily Enterprise, November 4, 1971)
1972 - Air pollution may cause ice age (Free-Lance Star, February 3, 1972)
1972 - Scientist Says New ice Age Coming (The Ledger, February 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Cometh For Dicey Times (The Sun, May 29, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Coming (Deseret News, September 8, 1972)
1972 - There's a new Ice Age coming! (The Windsor Star, September 9, 1972)
1972 - Scientist predicts new ice age (Free-Lance Star, September 11, 1972)
1972 - British Expert on Climate Change Says New Ice Age Creeping Over Northern Hemisphere(Lewiston Evening Journal, September 11, 1972)
1972 - Climate Seen Cooling For Return Of Ice Age (The Portsmouth Times, ‎September 11, 1972‎)
1972 - New Ice Age Slipping Over North (The Press-Courier, September 11, 1972)
1972 - Beginning of new ice age (The Canberra Times, September 12, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Begins A New Assault In North(The Age, September 12, 1972)
1972 - Weather To Get Colder (Montreal Gazette, ‎September 12, 1972‎)
1972 - British climate expert predicts new Ice Age (The Christian Science Monitor, September 23, 1972)
1972 - Scientist Sees Chilling Signs of New Ice Age (L.A. Times, September 24, 1972)
1972 - Science: Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, November 13, 1972)
1972 - Geologist at Case Traces Long Winters - Sees Ice Age in 20 Years (Youngstown Vindicator, December 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age On Its Way, Scientist Says (Toledo Blade, December 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Predicted In About 200 Years (The Portsmouth Times, December 14, 1972)
1973 - New Ice Age coming? (Popular Science, January 1973)
1973 - The Ice Age Cometh (The Saturday Review, March 24, 1973)
1973 - Believe new ice age is coming (The Bryan Times, March 31, 1973)
1973 - 'Man-made Ice Age' Worries Scientists (The Free Lance-Star, June 22, 1973)
1973 - Fear Of Man-made Ice Age (The Spartanburg Herald, June 28, 1973)
1973 - Possibility Of Ice Age Worries The Scientists (The Argus-Press, November 12, 1973)
1973 - Weather-watchers think another ice age may be on the way (The Christian Science Monitor, December 11, 1973)
1974 - Ominous Changes in the World's Weather(PDF) (Fortune Magazine, February 1974)
1974 - Atmospheric Dirt: Ice Age Coming?‎(Pittsburgh Press, February 28, 1974)
1974 - Support for theory of a cooling world (The Canberra Times, May 16, 1974)
1974 - New evidence indicates ice age here(Eugene Register-Guard, May 29, 1974)
1974 - Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, June 24, 1974)
1974 - 2 Scientists Think 'Little' Ice Age Near(Hartford Courant, August 11, 1974)
1974 - Climate: A Key to the World's Food Supply(NOAA, October, 1974)
1974 - Ice Age, worse food crisis seen (Chicago Tribune, October 30, 1974)
1974 - Imminent Arrival of the Ice (Radio Times, November 14, 1974)
1974 - Making a BBC Science Special [The Weather Machine] (New Scientist, November 14, 1974)
1974 - The Weather Machine (BBC, November 20, 1974)
1974 - New ice age 'could be in our lifetime' (The Canberra Times, November 22, 1974)
1974 - Believes Pollution Could Bring On Ice Age(Ludington Daily News, December 4, 1974)
1974 - Pollution Could Spur Ice Age, Nasa Says(Beaver Country Times, ‎December 4, 1974‎)
1974 - Air Pollution May Trigger Ice Age, Scientists Feel (The Telegraph, ‎December 5, 1974‎)
1974 - More Air Pollution Could Trigger Ice Age Disaster (Daily Sentinel, ‎December 5, 1974‎)
1974 - Scientists Fear Smog Could Cause Ice Age(Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, December 5, 1974)
1975 - Climate Changes Called Ominous (The New York Times, January 19, 1975)
1975 - Climate Change: Chilling Possibilities(Science News, March 1, 1975)
1975 - B-r-r-r-r: New Ice Age on way soon?(Chicago Tribune, March 2, 1975)
1975 - Cooling Trends Arouse Fear That New Ice Age Coming (Eugene Register-Guard, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Another Ice Age Due? Arctic Ice Expands In Last Decade (Youngstown Vindicator, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Earth Headed For Another Ice Age?(Reading Eagle, March 2, 1975)
1975 - New Ice Age Dawning? Significant Shift In Climate Seen (Times Daily, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - There's Troublesome Weather Ahead (Tri City Herald, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Earth Doomed To Live Through Another Ice Age? (The Robesonian, ‎March 3, 1975‎)
1975 - The Ice Age cometh: the system that controls our climate (Chicago Tribune, April 13, 1975)
1975 - The Cooling World (Newsweek, April 28, 1975)
1975 - Cooling trend may signal coming of another Ice Age (The Sun, May 16, 1975)
1975 - Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead (PDF) (The New York Times, May 21, 1975)
1975 - The Armadillos Are Heading South; Ice Age Coming? Chilling Thought for Humanity.(Chicago Tribune, June 2, 1975)
1975 - Summer of A New Ice Age (The Age, June 5, 1975)
1975 - In the Grip of a New Ice Age? (International Wildlife, July-August, 1975)
1975 - Experts ponder another ice age (The Spokesman-Review, September 8, 1975)
1975 - Oil Spill Could Cause New Ice Age(Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, December 11, 1975)
1976 - Deadly Harvest [Film] (Starring: Kim Cattrall, Clint Walker, 1976)
1976 - The Cooling: Has the Next Ice Age Already Begun? [Book] (Lowell Ponte, 1976)
1976 - Ice Age Predicted (Reading Eagle, January 22, 1976)
1976 - Ice Age Predicted In Century (Bangor Daily News, January 22, 1976)
1976 - It's Going To Get Chilly About 125 Years From Now (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, January 23, 1976)
1976 - Worrisome CIA Report; Even U.S. Farms May be Hit by Cooling Trend (U.S. News & World Report, May 31, 1976)
1977 - Blizzard - What Happens if it Doesn't Stop? [Book] (George Stone, 1977)
1977 - The Weather Conspiracy: The Coming of the New Ice Age [Book] (The Impact Team, 1977)
1977 - The Ice Age Cometh... (New York Magazine, January 31, 1977)
1977 - The Big Freeze (Time Magazine, January 31, 1977)
1977 - Has The Ice Age Cometh Again? (Calgary Herald, February 1, 1977)
1977 - Space Mirrors Proposed To Prevent Crop Freezes (Bangor Daily News, February 7, 1977)
1977 - Sunspot lull may bring on new ice age(The Christian Science Monitor, March 30, 1977)
1977 - We Will Freeze in the Dark (Capital Cities Communications Documentary, Host: Nancy Dickerson, April 12, 1977)
1978 - Ice! [Book] (Arnold Federbush, 1978)
1978 - The New Ice Age [Book] (Henry Gilfond, 1978)
1978 - Winter May Be Colder Than In Last Ice Age(Deseret News, January 2, 1978)
1978 - Current Winters Seen Colder Than In Ice Age‎ (The Telegraph, January 3, 1978)
1978 - Winter Temperatures Colder Than Last Ice Age (Eugene Register-Guard, Eugene Register-Guard, January 3, 1978)
1978 - International Team of Specialists Finds No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend in Northern Hemisphere (The New York Times, January 5, 1978)
1978 - Little Ice Age: Severe winters and cool summers ahead (Calgary Herald, January 10, 1978)
1978 - Winters Will Get Colder, 'we're Entering Little Ice Age' (Daily Record, January 10, 1978)
1978 - Geologist Says Winters Getting Colder(Middlesboro Daily News, January 16, 1978)
1978 - It's Going To Get Colder (Boca Raton News, ‎January 17, 1978‎)
1978 - Another Ice Age? (Kentucky New Era, February 12, 1978)
1978 - Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, ‎February 13, 1978‎)
1978 - The Coming Ice Age (In Search Of TV Show, Season 2, Episode 23, Host: Leonard Nimoy, May 1978)
1978 - An Ice Age Is Coming Weather Expert Fears (Milwaukee Sentinel, November 17, 1978)
1979 - A Choice of Catastrophes - The Disasters That Threaten Our World [Book] (Isaac Asimov, 1979)
1979 - The Sixth Winter [Book] (John R. Gribbin, 1979)
1979 - The New Ice Age Cometh (The Age, January 16, 1979)
1979 - Ice Age Building Up (Daily Record, June 5, 1979)
1979 - Large Glacial Buildup Could Mean Ice Age(Daily Chronicle, June 5, 1979)
1979 - Ice Age On Its Way (Lewiston Morning Tribune, June 7, 1979)
1979 - Get Ready to Freeze (Daily Chronicle, October 12, 1979)
1979 - New ice age almost upon us? (The Christian Science Monitor, November 14, 1979)

You didn't quote a single Climate Scientist from the time, because none of them thought another Ice Age was coming.

Obviously you didn't bother to read any of the articles and views of a coming ice age from scientists, as I just posted over 50 links not even 15 minutes prior to your response. Yes there were scientists experts who pondered another ice age approaching, they feared smog could even be linked to another coming ice age among other concerns. I have heard all these "doomsday" messages before, and you are as foolish (and no different) as those who were so certain of their position back in the 70s.

By the way, where is all this costal doomsday flooding global warming [so called] experts love to predict among their climate fear factors?

The ones I click on were mere newspaper articles with prediction of 1000 to 5000 years in the future. How many of them were peer reviewed scientific papers?

Don't most scientist agree that the major effects of a warmer earth will not be felt till the later half of this century?

Absolutely.. Any claims that "climate science" tells us that the effects are already devastating the planet -- are lying.. All of these "weather events" attributed to GW are not supported by the science.

See Bray and von Storch Surveys of Climate Science for example... THe EFFECTS are 100 years out IF the latest REVISED models are to be believed.

The reason they say warming is dangerous is because of the only other time CO2 went above ~450ppm was the PETM and it was disastrous.

 

[flacaltenn]

You'd think that supposed right-wingers who call themselves Christians (I'm very critical of them I think of them as Pharisees) would see the obvious parallels with Revelation that Global Warming offers them. Instead they reject it because they think God wouldn't do that to them?

Let's look at the obvious:

Global Warming will cause:

1) Famine - decreased plant productivity as CO2 ppm rises, desertification, soil acidification, Ocean acidification and loss of biomass in the oceans, etc.

2) Pestilence - already disease carrying Mosquitos are making a come-back in areas like southern US and Europe where such insects lost their old habitats, the swamps due to Human draining of the land. Bugs will crawl across a warmer earth to devour crops.

3) Plague - diseases unable to live farther north now infest farther north especially in the oceans there are famous studies of diseases of the sea that have pushed as far north as Alaska. Zika is another example. There's strong evidence that Ebola is seasonal due to humidity/temperature conditions which is why it doesn't spread into the arid zones etc. Disease will follow Global Warming's advance.

4) War - mass migrations of people as lower latitudes become unliveable will lead to inevitable war, always has in the past. Imagine 1 Billion Muslims on the brink of survival fleeing an uninhabitable North Africa and Eurasian plain.

Furthermore, the Bible says that HUMANS are the Stewards of the Earth. Not God.

So in every way Christianity supports the idea that humanity can and does alter the Earth's climate.

In conclusion: Any real Christian would support Global Warming as evidence of the end times. The great Tribulation. It's timed correctly. Jesus Christ is supposed to return, look for him in the House of the Water Bearer, may be a reference to the procession of the Equinox and we are entering the age of Aquarius now.

What better way to convince the world to elect the Anti-Christ than global warming caused mass chaos?

Will this happen in a decade? No....no.

But 100 years from now things could be so bad that indeed the end times will be upon us.

To throw in a little more controversial smack, I think you have to be a buffoon to deny Global Warming, it's so obvious that 75% of the Arctic Sea ice has melted (per mass of total sea ice), and denying Global Warming is like the buffoons of Hy Brasil singing on roof tops as they sink into the sea.

The evidence is overwhelming that by denying Global Warming, these "right-wing Christians" are really cultists, who do not believe in the Bible or God or Christ, but rather are Satanic Parodies, who run around giving real Christians a bad name to the rest of the world that isn't so blind as to be unable to see the effects of Global Warming that are happening...

RIGHT NOW.

Isn't it amazing how it is religious nuts who support the failed theory of global warming? Scientists, on the other hand, realize that nothing happening now, is any different from the very same things that have happened many, many, many times before.

Well it is different. Now it is caused by Human generated CO2.

A DOUBLING of CO2 by ITSELF --- is about a 1.1degC change in surface temperature. . That's from basic chemistry/atmos physics. Without the theorized accelerations and positive feedbacks --- it's no where NEAR the fear inspiring apocalypse that you've been fed.

First doubling since the Industrial Age began ain't even complete. NEXT doubling will require us to go from 560ppm to 1120ppm.. When do suppose we will hit the 2nd doubling?? 2150? 2160?

Think we will still have a fossil fuel economy then?

 

[Brambo]

You'd think that supposed right-wingers who call themselves Christians (I'm very critical of them I think of them as Pharisees) would see the obvious parallels with Revelation that Global Warming offers them. Instead they reject it because they think God wouldn't do that to them?

Let's look at the obvious:

Global Warming will cause:

1) Famine - decreased plant productivity as CO2 ppm rises, desertification, soil acidification, Ocean acidification and loss of biomass in the oceans, etc.

2) Pestilence - already disease carrying Mosquitos are making a come-back in areas like southern US and Europe where such insects lost their old habitats, the swamps due to Human draining of the land. Bugs will crawl across a warmer earth to devour crops.

3) Plague - diseases unable to live farther north now infest farther north especially in the oceans there are famous studies of diseases of the sea that have pushed as far north as Alaska. Zika is another example. There's strong evidence that Ebola is seasonal due to humidity/temperature conditions which is why it doesn't spread into the arid zones etc. Disease will follow Global Warming's advance.

4) War - mass migrations of people as lower latitudes become unliveable will lead to inevitable war, always has in the past. Imagine 1 Billion Muslims on the brink of survival fleeing an uninhabitable North Africa and Eurasian plain.

Furthermore, the Bible says that HUMANS are the Stewards of the Earth. Not God.

So in every way Christianity supports the idea that humanity can and does alter the Earth's climate.

In conclusion: Any real Christian would support Global Warming as evidence of the end times. The great Tribulation. It's timed correctly. Jesus Christ is supposed to return, look for him in the House of the Water Bearer, may be a reference to the procession of the Equinox and we are entering the age of Aquarius now.

What better way to convince the world to elect the Anti-Christ than global warming caused mass chaos?

Will this happen in a decade? No....no.

But 100 years from now things could be so bad that indeed the end times will be upon us.

To throw in a little more controversial smack, I think you have to be a buffoon to deny Global Warming, it's so obvious that 75% of the Arctic Sea ice has melted (per mass of total sea ice), and denying Global Warming is like the buffoons of Hy Brasil singing on roof tops as they sink into the sea.

The evidence is overwhelming that by denying Global Warming, these "right-wing Christians" are really cultists, who do not believe in the Bible or God or Christ, but rather are Satanic Parodies, who run around giving real Christians a bad name to the rest of the world that isn't so blind as to be unable to see the effects of Global Warming that are happening...

RIGHT NOW.

Isn't it amazing how it is religious nuts who support the failed theory of global warming? Scientists, on the other hand, realize that nothing happening now, is any different from the very same things that have happened many, many, many times before.

Well it is different. Now it is caused by Human generated CO2.

A DOUBLING of CO2 by ITSELF --- is about a 1.1degC change in surface temperature. . That's from basic chemistry/atmos physics. Without the theorized accelerations and positive feedbacks --- it's no where NEAR the fear inspiring apocalypse that you've been fed.

First doubling since the Industrial Age began ain't even complete. NEXT doubling will require us to go from 560ppm to 1120ppm.. When do suppose we will hit the 2nd doubling?? 2150? 2160?

Think we will still have a fossil fuel economy then?

That's only for doubling of CO2. We are crossing that mark by ~2020 with no end in sight.

The feedbacks are not over-blown. Massive amounts of Methane are starting to be released by the loss of Arctic ice/permafrost.

Also you're mistaken it's not about doubling of concentration, it's about ppm.

250 ppm = 4 watts per meter square.

PERIOD.

Next "doubling" is another 250 ppm.

By then it will have achieved PETM level crisis.

 

[BlindBoo]

You'd think that supposed right-wingers who call themselves Christians (I'm very critical of them I think of them as Pharisees) would see the obvious parallels with Revelation that Global Warming offers them. Instead they reject it because they think God wouldn't do that to them?

Let's look at the obvious:

Global Warming will cause:

1) Famine - decreased plant productivity as CO2 ppm rises, desertification, soil acidification, Ocean acidification and loss of biomass in the oceans, etc.

2) Pestilence - already disease carrying Mosquitos are making a come-back in areas like southern US and Europe where such insects lost their old habitats, the swamps due to Human draining of the land. Bugs will crawl across a warmer earth to devour crops.

3) Plague - diseases unable to live farther north now infest farther north especially in the oceans there are famous studies of diseases of the sea that have pushed as far north as Alaska. Zika is another example. There's strong evidence that Ebola is seasonal due to humidity/temperature conditions which is why it doesn't spread into the arid zones etc. Disease will follow Global Warming's advance.

4) War - mass migrations of people as lower latitudes become unliveable will lead to inevitable war, always has in the past. Imagine 1 Billion Muslims on the brink of survival fleeing an uninhabitable North Africa and Eurasian plain.

Furthermore, the Bible says that HUMANS are the Stewards of the Earth. Not God.

So in every way Christianity supports the idea that humanity can and does alter the Earth's climate.

In conclusion: Any real Christian would support Global Warming as evidence of the end times. The great Tribulation. It's timed correctly. Jesus Christ is supposed to return, look for him in the House of the Water Bearer, may be a reference to the procession of the Equinox and we are entering the age of Aquarius now.

What better way to convince the world to elect the Anti-Christ than global warming caused mass chaos?

Will this happen in a decade? No....no.

But 100 years from now things could be so bad that indeed the end times will be upon us.

To throw in a little more controversial smack, I think you have to be a buffoon to deny Global Warming, it's so obvious that 75% of the Arctic Sea ice has melted (per mass of total sea ice), and denying Global Warming is like the buffoons of Hy Brasil singing on roof tops as they sink into the sea.

The evidence is overwhelming that by denying Global Warming, these "right-wing Christians" are really cultists, who do not believe in the Bible or God or Christ, but rather are Satanic Parodies, who run around giving real Christians a bad name to the rest of the world that isn't so blind as to be unable to see the effects of Global Warming that are happening...

RIGHT NOW.

Isn't it amazing how it is religious nuts who support the failed theory of global warming? Scientists, on the other hand, realize that nothing happening now, is any different from the very same things that have happened many, many, many times before.

Well it is different. Now it is caused by Human generated CO2.

Good thing too. By the looks of things the world should be in a cooling phase. But it's not.

'The sun goes blank again during the weakest solar cycle in more than a century'

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Isn't it amazing how it is religious nuts who support the failed theory of global warming? Scientists, on the other hand, realize that nothing happening now, is any different from the very same things that have happened many, many, many times before.

Well it is different. Now it is caused by Human generated CO2.

Prove it.

They already have, time and again. You can look up tons of lectures from Youtube alone, or read the papers online.

Added CO2 in the atmosphere matches the isotopic abundance of burned fossil fuels (so the source is Human).

250 ppm CO2 = about 4watts per square meter of added energy to the system.

Which is about 8x the amount of energy added in a solar maximum event. (or about a 0.5 watt increase in total Solar Irradiance).

No, they haven't. They have trotted out cute little computer models (which are not data, just so you know) that predict all sorts of silly things. They have ALL been wrong. Take your ocean acidification claim for instance. The facts are we could burn every carbon bearing rock on the planet and the net result would be to lower the pH from 8.1 to 8.0. That is called a fact. The coral bleaching has been shown to be the result of sun tan lotion. Man caused for certain, but has nothing to do with CO2.

Your arguments have all been refuted many times over and that was done YEARS ago. You need to catch up.

Wrong, computer modelling is different than what we are discussing. The warming of the Earth is a data set...not a model. Models are for things like what will this warming do to the climate. Completely different issue.

The Earth has warmed...we can compare it to the past (paleo) climate.

You do realize the Earth is absolutely warming right?

The earth has been warming and cooling for millions of years. To think that we have anymore to do with gw than a pinprick is the height of arrogance. Really.

 

[flacaltenn]

This below is precisely why I don't believe in the "science" and this new scientific certainty of a doomsday global warming.

1970 - Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age - Scientists See Ice Age In the Future (The Washington Post, January 11, 1970)
1970 - Is Mankind Manufacturing a New Ice Age for Itself? (L.A. Times, January 15, 1970)
1970 - New Ice Age May Descend On Man (Sumter Daily Item, January 26, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Prospect A Chilling One (The Argus-Press, January 26, 1970)
1970 - Pollution's 2-way 'Freeze' On Society(Middlesboro Daily News, January 28, 1970)
1970 - Cold Facts About Pollution (The Southeast Missourian, January 29, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Could Cause Ice Age, Agency Reports (St. Petersburg Times, March 4, 1970)
1970 - Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century (The Boston Globe, April 16, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Called Ice Age Threat (St. Petersburg Times, June 26, 1970)
1970 - U.S. and Soviet Press Studies of a Colder Arctic (The New York Times, July 18, 1970)
1970 - Dirt Will Bring New Ice Age (The Sydney Morning Herald, October 19, 1970)
1971 - Ice Age Refugee Dies Underground(Montreal Gazette, Febuary 17, 1971)
1971 - Pollution Might Lead To Another Ice Age(The Schenectady Gazette, March 22, 1971)
1971 - Pollution May Bring Ice Age - Scientist Rites Risk (The Windsor Star, March 23, 1971)
1971 - U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming(The Washington Post, July 9, 1971)
1971 - Ice Age Around the Corner (Chicago Tribune, July 10, 1971)
1971 - Danger: Ice age may lurk in dusty skies(The Christian Science Monitor, July 12, 1971)
1971 - New Ice Age Coming - It's Already Getting Colder (L.A. Times, October 24, 1971)
1971 - Another Ice Age? Pollution Blocking Sunlight (The Day, November 1, 1971)
1971 - Air Pollution Could Bring An Ice Age(Harlan Daily Enterprise, November 4, 1971)
1972 - Air pollution may cause ice age (Free-Lance Star, February 3, 1972)
1972 - Scientist Says New ice Age Coming (The Ledger, February 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Cometh For Dicey Times (The Sun, May 29, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Coming (Deseret News, September 8, 1972)
1972 - There's a new Ice Age coming! (The Windsor Star, September 9, 1972)
1972 - Scientist predicts new ice age (Free-Lance Star, September 11, 1972)
1972 - British Expert on Climate Change Says New Ice Age Creeping Over Northern Hemisphere(Lewiston Evening Journal, September 11, 1972)
1972 - Climate Seen Cooling For Return Of Ice Age (The Portsmouth Times, ‎September 11, 1972‎)
1972 - New Ice Age Slipping Over North (The Press-Courier, September 11, 1972)
1972 - Beginning of new ice age (The Canberra Times, September 12, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Begins A New Assault In North(The Age, September 12, 1972)
1972 - Weather To Get Colder (Montreal Gazette, ‎September 12, 1972‎)
1972 - British climate expert predicts new Ice Age (The Christian Science Monitor, September 23, 1972)
1972 - Scientist Sees Chilling Signs of New Ice Age (L.A. Times, September 24, 1972)
1972 - Science: Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, November 13, 1972)
1972 - Geologist at Case Traces Long Winters - Sees Ice Age in 20 Years (Youngstown Vindicator, December 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age On Its Way, Scientist Says (Toledo Blade, December 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Predicted In About 200 Years (The Portsmouth Times, December 14, 1972)
1973 - New Ice Age coming? (Popular Science, January 1973)
1973 - The Ice Age Cometh (The Saturday Review, March 24, 1973)
1973 - Believe new ice age is coming (The Bryan Times, March 31, 1973)
1973 - 'Man-made Ice Age' Worries Scientists (The Free Lance-Star, June 22, 1973)
1973 - Fear Of Man-made Ice Age (The Spartanburg Herald, June 28, 1973)
1973 - Possibility Of Ice Age Worries The Scientists (The Argus-Press, November 12, 1973)
1973 - Weather-watchers think another ice age may be on the way (The Christian Science Monitor, December 11, 1973)
1974 - Ominous Changes in the World's Weather(PDF) (Fortune Magazine, February 1974)
1974 - Atmospheric Dirt: Ice Age Coming?‎(Pittsburgh Press, February 28, 1974)
1974 - Support for theory of a cooling world (The Canberra Times, May 16, 1974)
1974 - New evidence indicates ice age here(Eugene Register-Guard, May 29, 1974)
1974 - Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, June 24, 1974)
1974 - 2 Scientists Think 'Little' Ice Age Near(Hartford Courant, August 11, 1974)
1974 - Climate: A Key to the World's Food Supply(NOAA, October, 1974)
1974 - Ice Age, worse food crisis seen (Chicago Tribune, October 30, 1974)
1974 - Imminent Arrival of the Ice (Radio Times, November 14, 1974)
1974 - Making a BBC Science Special [The Weather Machine] (New Scientist, November 14, 1974)
1974 - The Weather Machine (BBC, November 20, 1974)
1974 - New ice age 'could be in our lifetime' (The Canberra Times, November 22, 1974)
1974 - Believes Pollution Could Bring On Ice Age(Ludington Daily News, December 4, 1974)
1974 - Pollution Could Spur Ice Age, Nasa Says(Beaver Country Times, ‎December 4, 1974‎)
1974 - Air Pollution May Trigger Ice Age, Scientists Feel (The Telegraph, ‎December 5, 1974‎)
1974 - More Air Pollution Could Trigger Ice Age Disaster (Daily Sentinel, ‎December 5, 1974‎)
1974 - Scientists Fear Smog Could Cause Ice Age(Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, December 5, 1974)
1975 - Climate Changes Called Ominous (The New York Times, January 19, 1975)
1975 - Climate Change: Chilling Possibilities(Science News, March 1, 1975)
1975 - B-r-r-r-r: New Ice Age on way soon?(Chicago Tribune, March 2, 1975)
1975 - Cooling Trends Arouse Fear That New Ice Age Coming (Eugene Register-Guard, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Another Ice Age Due? Arctic Ice Expands In Last Decade (Youngstown Vindicator, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Earth Headed For Another Ice Age?(Reading Eagle, March 2, 1975)
1975 - New Ice Age Dawning? Significant Shift In Climate Seen (Times Daily, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - There's Troublesome Weather Ahead (Tri City Herald, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Earth Doomed To Live Through Another Ice Age? (The Robesonian, ‎March 3, 1975‎)
1975 - The Ice Age cometh: the system that controls our climate (Chicago Tribune, April 13, 1975)
1975 - The Cooling World (Newsweek, April 28, 1975)
1975 - Cooling trend may signal coming of another Ice Age (The Sun, May 16, 1975)
1975 - Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead (PDF) (The New York Times, May 21, 1975)
1975 - The Armadillos Are Heading South; Ice Age Coming? Chilling Thought for Humanity.(Chicago Tribune, June 2, 1975)
1975 - Summer of A New Ice Age (The Age, June 5, 1975)
1975 - In the Grip of a New Ice Age? (International Wildlife, July-August, 1975)
1975 - Experts ponder another ice age (The Spokesman-Review, September 8, 1975)
1975 - Oil Spill Could Cause New Ice Age(Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, December 11, 1975)
1976 - Deadly Harvest [Film] (Starring: Kim Cattrall, Clint Walker, 1976)
1976 - The Cooling: Has the Next Ice Age Already Begun? [Book] (Lowell Ponte, 1976)
1976 - Ice Age Predicted (Reading Eagle, January 22, 1976)
1976 - Ice Age Predicted In Century (Bangor Daily News, January 22, 1976)
1976 - It's Going To Get Chilly About 125 Years From Now (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, January 23, 1976)
1976 - Worrisome CIA Report; Even U.S. Farms May be Hit by Cooling Trend (U.S. News & World Report, May 31, 1976)
1977 - Blizzard - What Happens if it Doesn't Stop? [Book] (George Stone, 1977)
1977 - The Weather Conspiracy: The Coming of the New Ice Age [Book] (The Impact Team, 1977)
1977 - The Ice Age Cometh... (New York Magazine, January 31, 1977)
1977 - The Big Freeze (Time Magazine, January 31, 1977)
1977 - Has The Ice Age Cometh Again? (Calgary Herald, February 1, 1977)
1977 - Space Mirrors Proposed To Prevent Crop Freezes (Bangor Daily News, February 7, 1977)
1977 - Sunspot lull may bring on new ice age(The Christian Science Monitor, March 30, 1977)
1977 - We Will Freeze in the Dark (Capital Cities Communications Documentary, Host: Nancy Dickerson, April 12, 1977)
1978 - Ice! [Book] (Arnold Federbush, 1978)
1978 - The New Ice Age [Book] (Henry Gilfond, 1978)
1978 - Winter May Be Colder Than In Last Ice Age(Deseret News, January 2, 1978)
1978 - Current Winters Seen Colder Than In Ice Age‎ (The Telegraph, January 3, 1978)
1978 - Winter Temperatures Colder Than Last Ice Age (Eugene Register-Guard, Eugene Register-Guard, January 3, 1978)
1978 - International Team of Specialists Finds No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend in Northern Hemisphere (The New York Times, January 5, 1978)
1978 - Little Ice Age: Severe winters and cool summers ahead (Calgary Herald, January 10, 1978)
1978 - Winters Will Get Colder, 'we're Entering Little Ice Age' (Daily Record, January 10, 1978)
1978 - Geologist Says Winters Getting Colder(Middlesboro Daily News, January 16, 1978)
1978 - It's Going To Get Colder (Boca Raton News, ‎January 17, 1978‎)
1978 - Another Ice Age? (Kentucky New Era, February 12, 1978)
1978 - Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, ‎February 13, 1978‎)
1978 - The Coming Ice Age (In Search Of TV Show, Season 2, Episode 23, Host: Leonard Nimoy, May 1978)
1978 - An Ice Age Is Coming Weather Expert Fears (Milwaukee Sentinel, November 17, 1978)
1979 - A Choice of Catastrophes - The Disasters That Threaten Our World [Book] (Isaac Asimov, 1979)
1979 - The Sixth Winter [Book] (John R. Gribbin, 1979)
1979 - The New Ice Age Cometh (The Age, January 16, 1979)
1979 - Ice Age Building Up (Daily Record, June 5, 1979)
1979 - Large Glacial Buildup Could Mean Ice Age(Daily Chronicle, June 5, 1979)
1979 - Ice Age On Its Way (Lewiston Morning Tribune, June 7, 1979)
1979 - Get Ready to Freeze (Daily Chronicle, October 12, 1979)
1979 - New ice age almost upon us? (The Christian Science Monitor, November 14, 1979)

You didn't quote a single Climate Scientist from the time, because none of them thought another Ice Age was coming.

Obviously you didn't bother to read any of the articles and views of a coming ice age from scientists, as I just posted over 50 links not even 15 minutes prior to your response. Yes there were scientists experts who pondered another ice age approaching, they feared smog could even be linked to another coming ice age among other concerns. I have heard all these "doomsday" messages before, and you are as foolish (and no different) as those who were so certain of their position back in the 70s.

By the way, where is all this costal doomsday flooding global warming [so called] experts love to predict among their climate fear factors?

The ones I click on were mere newspaper articles with prediction of 1000 to 5000 years in the future. How many of them were peer reviewed scientific papers?

Don't most scientist agree that the major effects of a warmer earth will not be felt till the later half of this century?

Absolutely.. Any claims that "climate science" tells us that the effects are already devastating the planet -- are lying.. All of these "weather events" attributed to GW are not supported by the science.

See Bray and von Storch Surveys of Climate Science for example... THe EFFECTS are 100 years out IF the latest REVISED models are to be believed.

The reason they say warming is dangerous is because of the only other time CO2 went above ~450ppm was the PETM and it was disastrous.

But we really don't know what PEAK CO2 has been for all those millennia. Because the proxy records represent really a "long term average" with all of the natural variability removed. I can show you HI RES CO2 plots from cave dwelling times that reach over 320ppm. But you won't see that on MOST proxy studies because of the LENGTH of those studies.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

One was related to a well understood cycle that is actually in its cooling phase now.

Which cycle is that?

The periodicity of glaciation related to a number of factors most notably Earth's orbital pattern.

I'm glad we're not cooling now. Thank goodness for CO2.

Lol we're not cooling. Sorry you have to invent reality to explain away a world view that doesn't fit your lies.

Lol we're not cooling.

You said we would be. I'm glad we're not.

Sorry you have to invent reality

Yeah, your coral claim was funny.

The coral claim is true, and oh, I misunderstood what you were saying.

Yes the orbital pattern suggests we should be cooling now. Instead we are warming.

Sadly, warming is not a good thing. More CO2 is a very bad thing.

The coral claim is true

Nope. The existence of coral today shows that your claim was wrong.

Cooling and ice ages suck. Warming is much better.

 

[Brambo]

You didn't quote a single Climate Scientist from the time, because none of them thought another Ice Age was coming.

Obviously you didn't bother to read any of the articles and views of a coming ice age from scientists, as I just posted over 50 links not even 15 minutes prior to your response. Yes there were scientists experts who pondered another ice age approaching, they feared smog could even be linked to another coming ice age among other concerns. I have heard all these "doomsday" messages before, and you are as foolish (and no different) as those who were so certain of their position back in the 70s.

By the way, where is all this costal doomsday flooding global warming [so called] experts love to predict among their climate fear factors?

The ones I click on were mere newspaper articles with prediction of 1000 to 5000 years in the future. How many of them were peer reviewed scientific papers?

Don't most scientist agree that the major effects of a warmer earth will not be felt till the later half of this century?

Absolutely.. Any claims that "climate science" tells us that the effects are already devastating the planet -- are lying.. All of these "weather events" attributed to GW are not supported by the science.

See Bray and von Storch Surveys of Climate Science for example... THe EFFECTS are 100 years out IF the latest REVISED models are to be believed.

The reason they say warming is dangerous is because of the only other time CO2 went above ~450ppm was the PETM and it was disastrous.

But we really don't know what PEAK CO2 has been for all those millennia. Because the proxy records represent really a "long term average" with all of the natural variability removed. I can show you HI RES CO2 plots from cave dwelling times that reach over 320ppm. But you won't see that on MOST proxy studies because of the LENGTH of those studies.

Not sure why you think we don't know what the CO2 concentrations were, we easily know from ocean core sampling.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

 

[Brambo]

Wow you can find a video that wasn't scientifically well supported ... yawn.

 

[Brambo]

The periodicity of glaciation related to a number of factors most notably Earth's orbital pattern.

I'm glad we're not cooling now. Thank goodness for CO2.

Lol we're not cooling. Sorry you have to invent reality to explain away a world view that doesn't fit your lies.

Lol we're not cooling.

You said we would be. I'm glad we're not.

Sorry you have to invent reality

Yeah, your coral claim was funny.

The coral claim is true, and oh, I misunderstood what you were saying.

Yes the orbital pattern suggests we should be cooling now. Instead we are warming.

Sadly, warming is not a good thing. More CO2 is a very bad thing.

The coral claim is true

Nope. The existence of coral today shows that your claim was wrong.

Cooling and ice ages suck. Warming is much better.

No, coral will go extinct when the CO2 ppm is above 400 because of how it reduces Ocean pH.

 

[westwall]

You'd think that supposed right-wingers who call themselves Christians (I'm very critical of them I think of them as Pharisees) would see the obvious parallels with Revelation that Global Warming offers them. Instead they reject it because they think God wouldn't do that to them?

Let's look at the obvious:

Global Warming will cause:

1) Famine - decreased plant productivity as CO2 ppm rises, desertification, soil acidification, Ocean acidification and loss of biomass in the oceans, etc.

2) Pestilence - already disease carrying Mosquitos are making a come-back in areas like southern US and Europe where such insects lost their old habitats, the swamps due to Human draining of the land. Bugs will crawl across a warmer earth to devour crops.

3) Plague - diseases unable to live farther north now infest farther north especially in the oceans there are famous studies of diseases of the sea that have pushed as far north as Alaska. Zika is another example. There's strong evidence that Ebola is seasonal due to humidity/temperature conditions which is why it doesn't spread into the arid zones etc. Disease will follow Global Warming's advance.

4) War - mass migrations of people as lower latitudes become unliveable will lead to inevitable war, always has in the past. Imagine 1 Billion Muslims on the brink of survival fleeing an uninhabitable North Africa and Eurasian plain.

Furthermore, the Bible says that HUMANS are the Stewards of the Earth. Not God.

So in every way Christianity supports the idea that humanity can and does alter the Earth's climate.

In conclusion: Any real Christian would support Global Warming as evidence of the end times. The great Tribulation. It's timed correctly. Jesus Christ is supposed to return, look for him in the House of the Water Bearer, may be a reference to the procession of the Equinox and we are entering the age of Aquarius now.

What better way to convince the world to elect the Anti-Christ than global warming caused mass chaos?

Will this happen in a decade? No....no.

But 100 years from now things could be so bad that indeed the end times will be upon us.

To throw in a little more controversial smack, I think you have to be a buffoon to deny Global Warming, it's so obvious that 75% of the Arctic Sea ice has melted (per mass of total sea ice), and denying Global Warming is like the buffoons of Hy Brasil singing on roof tops as they sink into the sea.

The evidence is overwhelming that by denying Global Warming, these "right-wing Christians" are really cultists, who do not believe in the Bible or God or Christ, but rather are Satanic Parodies, who run around giving real Christians a bad name to the rest of the world that isn't so blind as to be unable to see the effects of Global Warming that are happening...

RIGHT NOW.

Isn't it amazing how it is religious nuts who support the failed theory of global warming? Scientists, on the other hand, realize that nothing happening now, is any different from the very same things that have happened many, many, many times before.

Well it is different. Now it is caused by Human generated CO2.

Good thing too. By the looks of things the world should be in a cooling phase. But it's not.

'The sun goes blank again during the weakest solar cycle in more than a century'

Amazingly enough these things take time. That is one thing the global warming clowns have really fucked up is the understanding that changes to the Earths climate take years to manifest in any recognizable way. They, and clearly you, seem to think that the world works in a TV like CSI world of immediate gratification. It doesn't work that way. The Sun IS becoming less active. This will manifest relatively quickly for us (unfortunately) with cooler summers and shortened growing seasons. The "quickly" part is a couple of decades if we're lucky, and less than a decade if we're not.

The claims that you have been hearing about "the last year was the warmest evah!" are lies. NOAA reported that the average global temperature for 1998 was 62 degrees. The current average global temp is 58 degree's. Which is warmer?