Georgia Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

[Oddball]

I've noticed that many religious people, particularly Christian, have boundary issues. Have respect for other people's religions or lack of.

I'm agnostic and agree with Skull Pilot on this one.

Seems to me that there are far too many people in the world going far out of their way to take offense with this or that.

 

[Si modo]

I've noticed that many religious people, particularly Christian, have boundary issues. Have respect for other people's religions or lack of.

When they are the government, like in the Middle East, I will fear them. Until then, I have a good grasp on who is part of a church/mosque/temple/whatever and the government. Others obviously don't.

 

[L.K.Eder]

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him."

 

[masquerade]

I've noticed that many religious people, particularly Christians, have boundary issues. Have respect for other people's religions or lack of.

What irritates me is the lack of respect for the Christian religion.

 

[Si modo]

I've noticed that many religious people, particularly Christians, have boundary issues. Have respect for other people's religions or lack of.

I'll go with Muslims being most clueless on boundary issues. Stonings, hangings, forced apparel, etc. Fucking loud-ass speakers to call to prayer. Gawd.

 

[Care4all]

the first amendment is NOT being followed, in my opinion....



Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech...

They would be abridging the freedom of speech, in the case above....and they are prohibiting the FREE EXERCISE, THERE OF....in my opinion as well....admittingly, I am no constitutional lawyer....

i don't see anything in that post that would require anyone receiving a meal to pray publicly.

there are kosher meals on wheels too because people with dietary restrictions can't eat impermissible food.

on the other hand, someone shouldn't be required to sit through a christian prayer (or any prayer) to get government paid for meals. and i figure the O/P would be in meltdown if anyone suggested that a muslim prayer be held before that same meal.

is there something there i'm not seeing?

yes, imo, you are missing "free speech".....

I don't have to like what you are saying, but you still have the right to say it....the jews and muslims in congress, hears the opening prayer, by congress's Christian chaplin 80% of the time, and by guest speakers of various religions on other times....Christians do not stop the Rabbi guest or Muslim guest from speaking or saying the opening prayer...nor does congress plug its ears to it or claim it is unconstitutional due to the first amendment?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Halal Meals On Wheels

Program, believed to be first in nation, caters to homebound Muslims in Wayne County

ACCESS launched a program to feed seniors in a community setting a few years ago, but funding ran out. Talab worked to launch the program for shut-ins with the Senior Alliance, Area Agency on Aging 1C in Wayne, which runs a $3 million program that feeds seniors in 34 communities throughout western and southern Wayne County.

But unlike traditional Meals on Wheels, the halal meals are not delivered by volunteers. Food is provided by Midamar, a national halal food distributor based in Iowa. Meals are then assembled by Mom’s Meals, another Iowa company that mails meals to seniors in rural areas and other hard-to-reach places.

Mom’s Meals ships a two-week supply of halal meals in coolers to qualifying seniors via FedEx. The meals, which cost about $7 to prepare and ship, include entrees such as chicken biryani, lentil stew with ground lamb and Italian chicken.

The program is small but organizers expect it to grow.

The Area Agency on Aging has contracted with Mom’s Meals for three years, renewable at the end of each year based on performance, for $100,000 annually. The program was funded with federal dollars for programs for older Americans funneled through the state, said Bob Brown, executive director for the Senior Alliance.

I can't help but wonder if these Muslims were spoken to about their prayer.

of course not!

We exempt Muslims from the idiotic restrictions we place on Christians.

Reminder: I am an atheist and I don't care if some old lady says grace before her meal even if my tax dollars subsidize it and neither should anyone else. I don't care if it says "In God We Trust" on our money. I don't care if the fucking president says "God Bless America"

All I want is some fucking common sense but I would settle for some consistency instead of the utterly ridiculous hypocritical tripe that we seem to get constantly.

I am an atheist too and I also don't care if some old lady says grace before her meal. I've also patiently sat through many silly grace rituals and am not so much offended as I find them amusing. But I certainly do not want my tax dollars paying for any of these goofy group prayer sessions.

Your tax dollars are subsidizing the food. Do you really care if some old bat gives thanks for it in her own way?

And are you as adamant in your tax dollars not paying for Obama to invoke the deity. After all he is 100% subsidized by your tax dollars?

 

[Anguille]

I've noticed that many religious people, particularly Christian, have boundary issues. Have respect for other people's religions or lack of.

I'm agnostic and agree with Skull Pilot on this one.

Seems to me that there are far too many people in the world going far out of their way to take offense with this or that.

It probably depends on your experiences and where it happens on how you react to this sort of thing.

Sometimes I find it quaint and amusing.
Sometimes I am creeped out by it.
Only once or twice was I truly offended by it because it happened in places it should not have. One was in a public school and the other was at a musical event that happened in a church and which was not supposed to be a religious event but the minister showed up and decided to take advantage of the crowd in his church to "lead us all in prayer". I suppose he though he was going to get some converts but mostly what he got was a lot of dirty looks.

I support, however, anyone's objection to being subjected to group prayer especially at the tax payers expense.

Religion is a dangerous thing, in my opinion, when the zealots are given too free a rein.

 

[Anguille]

of course not!

We exempt Muslims from the idiotic restrictions we place on Christians.

Reminder: I am an atheist and I don't care if some old lady says grace before her meal even if my tax dollars subsidize it and neither should anyone else. I don't care if it says "In God We Trust" on our money. I don't care if the fucking president says "God Bless America"

All I want is some fucking common sense but I would settle for some consistency instead of the utterly ridiculous hypocritical tripe that we seem to get constantly.

I am an atheist too and I also don't care if some old lady says grace before her meal. I've also patiently sat through many silly grace rituals and am not so much offended as I find them amusing. But I certainly do not want my tax dollars paying for any of these goofy group prayer sessions.

Your tax dollars are subsidizing the food. Do you really care if some old bat gives thanks for it in her own way?

And are you as adamant in your tax dollars not paying for Obama to invoke the deity. After all he is 100% subsidized by your tax dollars?

Not if she does it in her own way and not as part of some plan to force religious conformity on the public.

You are purposefully avoiding the real issue.

As usual.

yawn

 

[Oddball]

I've noticed that many religious people, particularly Christian, have boundary issues. Have respect for other people's religions or lack of.

I'm agnostic and agree with Skull Pilot on this one.

Seems to me that there are far too many people in the world going far out of their way to take offense with this or that.

It probably depends on your experiences and where it happens on how you react to this sort of thing.

Sometimes I find it quaint and amusing.
Sometimes I am creeped out by it.
Only once or twice was I truly offended by it because it happened in places it should not have. One was in a public school and the other was at a musical event that happened in a church and which was not supposed to be a religious event but the minister showed up and decided to take advantage of the crowd in his church to "lead us all in prayer". I suppose he though he was going to get some converts but mostly what he got was a lot of dirty looks.

I support, however, anyone's objection to being subjected to group prayer especially at the tax payers expense.

Religion is a dangerous thing, in my opinion, when the zealots are given too free a rein.

Pfffft.

I'm neither threatened nor offended by anyone's expression of their religious beliefs....I fact, I'm quite comfortable with the fact that our nation was founded by deists who prayed and thanked God in public all the time.

Time for areligious bedwetters and progressive/socialist worshipers of humanism to build a bridge and get over it.

 

[Anguille]

I've noticed that many religious people, particularly Christians, have boundary issues. Have respect for other people's religions or lack of.

What irritates me is the lack of respect for the Christian religion.

For some Christians it's never enough that we bend over backwards to accommodate them. Give them an inch and they take a yard. It's not so much that they are Christian though, it's that they have mental issues and are control freaks.

 

[masquerade]

I am an atheist too and I also don't care if some old lady says grace before her meal. I've also patiently sat through many silly grace rituals and am not so much offended as I find them amusing. But I certainly do not want my tax dollars paying for any of these goofy group prayer sessions.

Your tax dollars are subsidizing the food. Do you really care if some old bat gives thanks for it in her own way?

And are you as adamant in your tax dollars not paying for Obama to invoke the deity. After all he is 100% subsidized by your tax dollars?

Not if she does it in her own way and not as part of some plan to force religious conformity on the public.

You are purposefully avoiding the real issue.

As usual.

yawn

Yeah, this group of seniors who have been praying together for quite some time now, plan to force religious conformity on the public.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I am an atheist too and I also don't care if some old lady says grace before her meal. I've also patiently sat through many silly grace rituals and am not so much offended as I find them amusing. But I certainly do not want my tax dollars paying for any of these goofy group prayer sessions.

Your tax dollars are subsidizing the food. Do you really care if some old bat gives thanks for it in her own way?

And are you as adamant in your tax dollars not paying for Obama to invoke the deity. After all he is 100% subsidized by your tax dollars?

Not if she does it in her own way and not as part of some plan to force religious conformity on the public.

You are purposefully avoiding the real issue.

As usual.

yawn

And what is the real issue?

Is not the president invoking the deity forcing it on the general public in a bigger way than a few old people saying grace?

 

[masquerade]

I've noticed that many religious people, particularly Christians, have boundary issues. Have respect for other people's religions or lack of.

What irritates me is the lack of respect for the Christian religion.

For some Christians it's never enough that we bend over backwards to accommodate them. Give them an inch and they take a yard. It's not so much that they are Christian though, it's that they have mental issues and are control freaks.

Why must you insult all Christians into one group?

 

[Anguille]

Your tax dollars are subsidizing the food. Do you really care if some old bat gives thanks for it in her own way?

And are you as adamant in your tax dollars not paying for Obama to invoke the deity. After all he is 100% subsidized by your tax dollars?

Not if she does it in her own way and not as part of some plan to force religious conformity on the public.

You are purposefully avoiding the real issue.

As usual.

yawn

And what is the real issue?

Is not the president invoking the deity forcing it on the general public in a bigger way than a few old people saying grace?

I agree with you there.

 

[Anguille]

What irritates me is the lack of respect for the Christian religion.

For some Christians it's never enough that we bend over backwards to accommodate them. Give them an inch and they take a yard. It's not so much that they are Christian though, it's that they have mental issues and are control freaks.

Why must you insult all Christians into one group?

Do all Christians have reading comprehension problems like you? Or just the stupid ones?

 

[Anguille]

the first amendment is NOT being followed, in my opinion....



Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech...

They would be abridging the freedom of speech, in the case above....and they are prohibiting the FREE EXERCISE, THERE OF....in my opinion as well....admittingly, I am no constitutional lawyer....

i don't see anything in that post that would require anyone receiving a meal to pray publicly.

there are kosher meals on wheels too because people with dietary restrictions can't eat impermissible food.

on the other hand, someone shouldn't be required to sit through a christian prayer (or any prayer) to get government paid for meals. and i figure the O/P would be in meltdown if anyone suggested that a muslim prayer be held before that same meal.

is there something there i'm not seeing?

yes, imo, you are missing "free speech".....

I don't have to like what you are saying, but you still have the right to say it....the jews and muslims in congress, hears the opening prayer, by congress's Christian chaplin 80% of the time, and by guest speakers of various religions on other times....Christians do not stop the Rabbi guest or Muslim guest from speaking or saying the opening prayer...nor does congress plug its ears to it or claim it is unconstitutional due to the first amendment?

Congress sometimes does what it thinks it has to do to be sure to be re-elected. So far no congress person has had the courage, as far as I know, to contest that practice.

The opening prayer of Congress is a farce, just as having jurors swear on a bible is.

 

[GHook93]

They can pray. It's just not an organized prayer.

Or they could always refuse funding.

No, I heard this argued on the radio today, they can't pray period!

The first amendment protects the free practice of religion, not the freedom from religion. Christians built this nation and believe it or not they help more with charity and voluntary work then any other people.

It's amazing that we placate Muslims with allowing them to take driver license pictures with hijabs and burqua. Hell, liberal antiChristian universities even gave into their demands to use university tuition dollar to built foot baths in public restrooms!

Give me a fucking break. If these were antiamerican Muslims (Yes not all Muslims are antiAmerican in fact many are pro-American) praying for America's downfall before they broke bread, the administration wouldn't do anything but protect their rights. In fact, if the administration told them to stop. You would have the ACLU, Jesse Jackson, CAIR and Sharpton bringing lawsuits and threatening boycotts!

The atheist assholes (which I am one) need to be truthful and say they are not at war with religion. That they don't desire freedom from religion. Rather they are at war with Christianity and YES they have turned into the intolerant BASTARDS that they proclaim they are fighting against!

Christians aren't the problem in this battle. Its atheist pushing their believes on others. I personally think the idea of God is old and outdated. That even though I am glad that many people have the belief in a higher power to set them on the right track (specifically in AA), but I can't live a lie and believe in something I think is folklore.

Nevertheless, who am I to push my beliefs onto believers. Who am I to say, a nation under god hurts my atheist ears. Who am I to say that people can't pray before eating a meal. That is what they believe and they shouldn't be PERSECUTED for what they believe, as I shouldn't be persecuted for what I don't believe!

 

[Shadow]

I've noticed that many religious people, particularly Christian, have boundary issues. Have respect for other people's religions or lack of.

I'm agnostic and agree with Skull Pilot on this one.

Seems to me that there are far too many people in the world going far out of their way to take offense with this or that.

True. And christian's are not the only group of people with "boundary issues" either.

 

[masquerade]

For some Christians it's never enough that we bend over backwards to accommodate them. Give them an inch and they take a yard. It's not so much that they are Christian though, it's that they have mental issues and are control freaks.

Why must you insult all Christians into one group?

Do all Christians have reading comprehension problems like you? Or just the stupid ones?

C'mon now ... no need to insult. I apologize. I read over the word 'some'.