George Soros, Obama, And The Democrat's Plan To Ruin America


I suggest you read the article and quit whining like a bitch.

Nothing more worthless then a moron that hasn't the vision to entertain the possibilities much less the facts that out there to be investigated. Facts that are everywhere but you can't see them cuz nobody you trust told you to.

American Thinker: Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

I did read the article. The cause of the mortgage crisis is not the CRA. That's utter garbage which continues to get recycled by braindead ideologues. Why the hell should I believe anything else in that article the author writes when he gets something so spectacularly wrong?

There are no bloody facts in the statement that these people want a repeat of the Great Depression. If one believes this shit, one is weakminded and prone to stupid conspiracy theories.
 
Nothing more worthless then a moron that hasn't the vision to entertain the possibilities much less the facts that out there to be investigated. Facts that are everywhere but you can't see them cuz nobody you trust told you to.

Ahh, so you believe.

1.Flight 19
2.Bush orchestrated 911
3.Afghanistan-Iraq War was planned
4.7 World Trade Center fell with demolitions

Correct?:lol:
 

I suggest you read the article and quit whining like a bitch.

Nothing more worthless then a moron that hasn't the vision to entertain the possibilities much less the facts that out there to be investigated. Facts that are everywhere but you can't see them cuz nobody you trust told you to.

American Thinker: Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

I did read the article. The cause of the mortgage crisis is not the CRA. That's utter garbage which continues to get recycled by braindead ideologues. Why the hell should I believe anything else in that article the author writes when he gets something so spectacularly wrong?

There are no bloody facts in the statement that these people want a repeat of the Great Depression. If one believes this shit, one is weakminded and prone to stupid conspiracy theories.

He is getting too much mud in his whistle..........:lol:
 

I suggest you read the article and quit whining like a bitch.

Nothing more worthless then a moron that hasn't the vision to entertain the possibilities much less the facts that out there to be investigated. Facts that are everywhere but you can't see them cuz nobody you trust told you to.

American Thinker: Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

I did read the article. The cause of the mortgage crisis is not the CRA. That's utter garbage which continues to get recycled by braindead ideologues. Why the hell should I believe anything else in that article the author writes when he gets something so spectacularly wrong?

There are no bloody facts in the statement that these people want a repeat of the Great Depression. If one believes this shit, one is weakminded and prone to stupid conspiracy theories.

It doesn't say that the CRA was the cause. It just says that it started the ball rolling in the Mortgage Crisis....which if you had read the fucken article you'd know wasn't the only crisis caused by this movement. The CRA was just one aspect of a crisis that took years to unfold. ACORN, Obama's baby, really got it going.

It originated with the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), signed into law in 1977 by President Jimmy Carter. The CRA was Carter's answer to a grassroots activist movement started in Chicago, and forced banks to make loans to low income, high risk customers. PhD economist and former Texas Senator Phil Gramm has called it: "a vast extortion scheme against the nation's banks."

ACORN aggressively sought to expand loans to low income groups using the CRA as a whip. Economist Stan Leibowitz wrote in the New York Post:

In the 1980s, groups such as the activists at ACORN began pushing charges of "redlining"-claims that banks discriminated against minorities in mortgage lending. In 1989, sympathetic members of Congress got the Home Mortgage Disclosure Act amended to force banks to collect racial data on mortgage applicants; this allowed various studies to be ginned up that seemed to validate the original accusation.

ACORN showed its colors again in 1991, by taking over the House Banking Committee room for two days to protest efforts to scale back the CRA. Obama represented ACORN in the Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank, 1994 suit against redlining. Most significant of all, ACORN was the driving force behind a 1995 regulatory revision pushed through by the Clinton Administration that greatly expanded the CRA and laid the groundwork for the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac borne financial crisis we now confront. Barack Obama was the attorney representing ACORN in this effort. With this new authority, ACORN used its subsidiary, ACORN Housing, to promote subprime loans more aggressively.

As a New York Post article describes it:

A 1995 strengthening of the Community Reinvestment Act required banks to find ways to provide mortgages to their poorer communities. It also let community activists intervene at yearly bank reviews, shaking the banks down for large pots of money.


Banks that got poor reviews were punished; some saw their merger plans frustrated; others faced direct legal challenges by the Justice Department.

You do know what the word "originated" means?
 
All one need do is know the law well enough..learn it's loopholes and misinterpret it's purpose to your advantage. They've been doing it with the Constitution for decades. Why not the CRA. Sue somebody over discrimination, accuse them of racism and you can scare alot of people into doing whatever you want. One of our latest examples is the DOJ's lawsuit against the state of Arizona. It doesn't matter a damn if they never read the thing in the first place.
 
I suggest you read the article and quit whining like a bitch.

Nothing more worthless then a moron that hasn't the vision to entertain the possibilities much less the facts that out there to be investigated. Facts that are everywhere but you can't see them cuz nobody you trust told you to.

American Thinker: Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

I did read the article. The cause of the mortgage crisis is not the CRA. That's utter garbage which continues to get recycled by braindead ideologues. Why the hell should I believe anything else in that article the author writes when he gets something so spectacularly wrong?

There are no bloody facts in the statement that these people want a repeat of the Great Depression. If one believes this shit, one is weakminded and prone to stupid conspiracy theories.

It doesn't say that the CRA was the cause. It just says that it started the ball rolling in the Mortgage Crisis....which if you had read the fucken article you'd know wasn't the only crisis caused by this movement. The CRA was just one aspect of a crisis that took years to unfold. ACORN, Obama's baby, really got it going.

It originated with the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), signed into law in 1977 by President Jimmy Carter. The CRA was Carter's answer to a grassroots activist movement started in Chicago, and forced banks to make loans to low income, high risk customers. PhD economist and former Texas Senator Phil Gramm has called it: "a vast extortion scheme against the nation's banks."

ACORN aggressively sought to expand loans to low income groups using the CRA as a whip. Economist Stan Leibowitz wrote in the New York Post:

In the 1980s, groups such as the activists at ACORN began pushing charges of "redlining"-claims that banks discriminated against minorities in mortgage lending. In 1989, sympathetic members of Congress got the Home Mortgage Disclosure Act amended to force banks to collect racial data on mortgage applicants; this allowed various studies to be ginned up that seemed to validate the original accusation.

ACORN showed its colors again in 1991, by taking over the House Banking Committee room for two days to protest efforts to scale back the CRA. Obama represented ACORN in the Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank, 1994 suit against redlining. Most significant of all, ACORN was the driving force behind a 1995 regulatory revision pushed through by the Clinton Administration that greatly expanded the CRA and laid the groundwork for the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac borne financial crisis we now confront. Barack Obama was the attorney representing ACORN in this effort. With this new authority, ACORN used its subsidiary, ACORN Housing, to promote subprime loans more aggressively.

As a New York Post article describes it:

A 1995 strengthening of the Community Reinvestment Act required banks to find ways to provide mortgages to their poorer communities. It also let community activists intervene at yearly bank reviews, shaking the banks down for large pots of money.


Banks that got poor reviews were punished; some saw their merger plans frustrated; others faced direct legal challenges by the Justice Department.

You do know what the word "originated" means?

The author clearly uses innuendo to suggest that the CRA was the cause of the crisis. This is what he says later on.

Most significantly, Penny Pritzker, the current Finance Chairperson of Obama's presidential campaign helped develop the complicated investment bundling of subprime securities at the heart of the meltdown. She did so in her position as shareholder and board chair of Superior Bank. The Bank failed in 2001, one of the largest in recent history, wiping out $50 million in uninsured life savings of approximately 1,400 customers. She was named in a RICO class action law suit but doesn't seem to have come out of it too badly.

As a young attorney in the 1990s, Barack Obama represented ACORN in Washington in their successful efforts to expand Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) authority. In addition to making it easier for ACORN groups to force banks into making risky loans, this also paved the way for banks like Superior to package mortgages as investments, and for the Government Sponsored Enterprises Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to underwrite them. These changes created the conditions that ultimately lead to the current financial crisis.

Did they not know this would occur? Were these smart people, led by a Harvard graduate, unaware of the Econ 101 concept of moral hazard that would result from the government making implicit guarantees to underwrite private sector financial risk? They should have known that freeing the high-risk mortgage market of risk, calamity was sure to ensue. I think they did.

Really? Warren Buffett didn't. The CEOs of all the Wall Street banks didn't. The boards of the biggest commercial banks in the land didn't. The Federal Reserve didn't. The thousands of large institutions which bought CDOs stuffed full of subprime didn't. Are they all in on this conspiracy too?

The author is an ideological hack advancing an agenda.
 
I did read the article. The cause of the mortgage crisis is not the CRA. That's utter garbage which continues to get recycled by braindead ideologues. Why the hell should I believe anything else in that article the author writes when he gets something so spectacularly wrong?

There are no bloody facts in the statement that these people want a repeat of the Great Depression. If one believes this shit, one is weakminded and prone to stupid conspiracy theories.

It doesn't say that the CRA was the cause. It just says that it started the ball rolling in the Mortgage Crisis....which if you had read the fucken article you'd know wasn't the only crisis caused by this movement. The CRA was just one aspect of a crisis that took years to unfold. ACORN, Obama's baby, really got it going.



You do know what the word "originated" means?

The author clearly uses innuendo to suggest that the CRA was the cause of the crisis. This is what he says later on.

Most significantly, Penny Pritzker, the current Finance Chairperson of Obama's presidential campaign helped develop the complicated investment bundling of subprime securities at the heart of the meltdown. She did so in her position as shareholder and board chair of Superior Bank. The Bank failed in 2001, one of the largest in recent history, wiping out $50 million in uninsured life savings of approximately 1,400 customers. She was named in a RICO class action law suit but doesn't seem to have come out of it too badly.

As a young attorney in the 1990s, Barack Obama represented ACORN in Washington in their successful efforts to expand Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) authority. In addition to making it easier for ACORN groups to force banks into making risky loans, this also paved the way for banks like Superior to package mortgages as investments, and for the Government Sponsored Enterprises Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to underwrite them. These changes created the conditions that ultimately lead to the current financial crisis.

Did they not know this would occur? Were these smart people, led by a Harvard graduate, unaware of the Econ 101 concept of moral hazard that would result from the government making implicit guarantees to underwrite private sector financial risk? They should have known that freeing the high-risk mortgage market of risk, calamity was sure to ensue. I think they did.

Really? Warren Buffett didn't. The CEOs of all the Wall Street banks didn't. The boards of the biggest commercial banks in the land didn't. The Federal Reserve didn't. The thousands of large institutions which bought CDOs stuffed full of subprime didn't. Are they all in on this conspiracy too?

The author is an ideological hack advancing an agenda.

People were making serious money buying properties and rolling them over immediately causing the prices to go up. It got to the point that the profit was becoming less and less. The housing crash just made the value drop out of the market and cause millions to unload their undewater mortgages or just plain walk away from them. This has happened several times in the past. A home that was worth $500k a few months before can now be had for under $100k. Only the rich can take advantage of this kind of deal or banks hoping the government will bail them out. Millions of foreclosed homes are waiting to be unloaded on the market as we speak.

It didn't help that the Dems had been saying for years that lending institutions were using unfair lending practices to get people into their homes...so people just didn't feel like giving their lender anymore of their money. A pervasive hatred for Fat-cat bankers encouraged by Democrats became a constant theme in discussions among poorer homeowners. I was in the lending business and was hard pressed to find anyone with a score higher then 600. Nobody wanted to got through with their obligations cause the Democrats keep telling them that Bankers were fucking them in the ass. So bankruptcies skyrocketed. Stated income became the norm. Proof of income didn't have to be provided. Credit scores weren't considered and the poor were allowed to move into homes beyond their means to pay with no money down in some cases.

Obama has been in the center of this since before he became a state Senator:

As a community activist for ACORN; as a leadership trainer for ACORN; as a lead organizer for ACORN's Project Vote; as an attorney representing ACORN's successful efforts to impose Motor Voter regulations in Illinois; as ACORN's representative in lobbying for the expansion of high risk housing loans through Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that led to the current crisis; as a recipient of their assistance in his political campaigns -- both with money and campaign workers; it is doubtful that he was unaware of ACORN's true goals. It is doubtful he was unaware of the Cloward-Piven Strategy.

Fast-forward to 2005 when an obsequious, servile and scraping Daniel Mudd, CEO of Fannie Mae spoke at the Congressional Black Caucus swearing in ceremony for newly-elected Illinois Senator, Barack Obama. Mudd called, the Congressional Black Caucus "our family" and "the conscience of Fannie Mae."

In 2005, Republicans sought to rein in Fannie and Freddie. Senator John McCain was at the forefront of that effort. But it failed due to an intense lobbying effort put forward by Fannie and Freddie.

In his few years as a U.S. senator, Obama has received campaign contributions of $126,349, from Fannie and Freddie, second only to the $165,400 received by Senator Chris Dodd, who has been getting donations from them since 1988. What makes Obama so special?

His closest advisers are a dirty laundry list of individuals at the heart of the financial crisis: former Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson; Former Fannie Mae CEO and former Clinton Budget Director Frank Raines; and billionaire failed Superior Bank of Chicago Board Chair Penny Pritzker.

Johnson had to step down as adviser on Obama's V.P. search after this gem came out:

An Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) report[1] from September 2004 found that, during Johnson's tenure as CEO, Fannie Mae had improperly deferred $200 million in expenses. This enabled top executives, including Johnson and his successor, Franklin Raines, to receive substantial bonuses in 1998.[2] A 2006 OFHEO report[3] found that Fannie Mae had substantially under-reported Johnson's compensation. Originally reported as $6-7 million, Johnson actually received approximately $21 million.

Obama denies ties to Raines but the Washington Post calls him a member of "Obama's political circle." Raines and Johnson were fined $3 million by the Office of Federal Housing Oversight for their manipulation of Fannie books. The fine is small change however, compared to the $50 million Raines was able to obtain in improper bonuses as a result of juggling the books.

Most significantly, Penny Pritzker, the current Finance Chairperson of Obama's presidential campaign helped develop the complicated investment bundling of subprime securities at the heart of the meltdown. She did so in her position as shareholder and board chair of Superior Bank. The Bank failed in 2001, one of the largest in recent history, wiping out $50 million in uninsured life savings of approximately 1,400 customers. She was named in a RICO class action law suit but doesn't seem to have come out of it too badly.

As a young attorney in the 1990s, Barack Obama represented ACORN in Washington in their successful efforts to expand Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) authority. In addition to making it easier for ACORN groups to force banks into making risky loans, this also paved the way for banks like Superior to package mortgages as investments, and for the Government Sponsored Enterprises Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to underwrite them. These changes created the conditions that ultimately lead to the current financial crisis.
 
Soros emmigrated to the US the year of my birth but he didn't get his citizenship till years afterward. 1961 to be exact.

George Soros - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They can become an American but if they do anything to cause harm to this country or break the law they can have their citizenship revoked. [He has been convicted of insider trading.]

He is a foreigner who is a naturalized citizen thus he cannot ever be President or Vice-President. He manages off-shore hedge funds and is a former council on foreign relations. I would like to see a chart showing the time he's spent in and outside the United States and compare it to my time inside and outside the US. I would love to make you eat your words.
So when exactly was his citizenship revoked?

As an American citizen he can be a governor, senator, congressman, he can vote, donate money, manage hedge funds, manage his email address book, be a member of the CFR, Skull and Bones, the Tri-Lateral Commission, the Boy Scouts, the KKK, and he can travel abroad, across country, and around the block. He is FREE to spend as much time in or outside the USA as he wants no matter how JEALOUS that makes you. :lol:

Jealous???

Of what??

He is a traitor. What's to be jealous of. I fail to see why this man and what he does would make me jealous. He operates outside of the US. His allegiance is not to this country but to his own Capitalist interests. Strange you would support a capitalist. If anyone needed to have his citizenship revoked it would be him. But that is beside the point.

Why you would defend his crimes makes me wonder. By throwing out a strawman argument it shows me you have nothing to say about the OP because you can't argue against it.

Soros Fund Management LLC, founded by George Soros, is a privately held corporation providing financial services and investment strategies for various funds including some controversial hedge funds such as the Quantum Group of Funds. The company's investment strategies have been based on analysis of real or perceived macroeconomic trends in various countries. Soros' companies have been accused of applying pressure on currencies to directly benefit their speculative strategies. Soros responds to these charges by saying that his funds merely take advantage of known weaknesses in the international financial system.
However Soros has been using his money to effect changes in economies like Russia, England, France, and Greece. Now the United States. Therefore he is guilty of influencing the change and making bets that an economy will fail after assuring it's failure.
You are jealous to the point of derangement because he is more of a patriot than you could ever hope to be.

You are jealous because he is a successful CAPITALIST and you are a failed Socialist Marxist Communist.

Short selling is an essential part of the Capitalist system, according to your MessiahRushie.

The Goldman Sachs Inquisition
April 27, 2010
RUSH: Folks, this has me fuming. What Levin here is essentially saying is that Goldman Sachs had devised not one, but a series of complex deals to profit from the collapse of the home mortgage market. Now, isn't that precisely what an investment firm should be doing for its clients? Would it not be irresponsible for them to do anything else? What are clients of Goldman Sachs supposed to do other than profit from hiring them? This is what's wrong with -- and you might be saying, "But, Rush! But, Rush! This is a housing market. This was the American dream and Goldman Sachs is betting on it to fail." Well, they bet both ways, but people bet short all the time. Are we going to eliminate going short on every financial transaction now? Because there's a winner and loser. It's a zero-sum game, folks.
For every winner there's a loser. I don't care which way the winner or loser goes. Sometimes the short seller loses; sometimes the long seller loses but somebody wins.

May 18, 2010
Rush: The German government is floating the idea of implementing a ban on all "naked short selling" in the market there. The euro has dropped by more than 1%. This will actually make things worse if you ban all naked short selling, because if the markets go up with no traders allowed to go short, then you can see a bubble burst as prices get artificially high with no professional shorting against the buying. You always have people on both sides of these things. If you take away the short sellers -- the people guaranteeing that the euro is going to go down or any market, any stock is going to go down -- then you're artificially messing with it, they think short sellers are what's destroying the euro, destroying the markets. This is the government intervening, once again, not knowing at all what they're doing.
 
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People were making serious money buying properties and rolling them over immediately causing the prices to go up. It got to the point that the profit was becoming less and less. The housing crash just made the value drop out of the market and cause millions to unload their undewater mortgages or just plain walk away from them. This has happened several times in the past. A home that was worth $500k a few months before can now be had for under $100k. Only the rich can take advantage of this kind of deal or banks hoping the government will bail them out. Millions of foreclosed homes are waiting to be unloaded on the market as we speak.

And? It wasn't the poor madly speculating in homes.

It didn't help that the Dems had been saying for years that lending institutions were using unfair lending practices to get people into their homes...so people just didn't feel like giving their lender anymore of their money. A pervasive hatred for Fat-cat bankers encouraged by Democrats became a constant theme in discussions among poorer homeowners. I was in the lending business and was hard pressed to find anyone with a score higher then 600. Nobody wanted to got through with their obligations cause the Democrats keep telling them that Bankers were fucking them in the ass. So bankruptcies skyrocketed. Stated income became the norm. Proof of income didn't have to be provided. Credit scores weren't considered and the poor were allowed to move into homes beyond their means to pay with no money down in some cases.

Yet, following the housing collapse, the rate of default was no higher amongst CRA loans.

Twenty-four of the top 25 subprime lenders did not have CRA mandates. Bigger housing bubbles occurred in several other countries, which BTW, had no CRA mandate. Yet, we are to believe that the CRA "created the conditions" that lead to the housing bubble. You bet.
 
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George Soros is using our Democrats to ruin this country and enrich himself in the process. He's done it before. How can an American politician be stupid enough to fall into this trap after seeing it repeated time and time again. Anyone with half a brain could see that Soros has done this to other countries. Why in the world would they allow themselves to be used to do the same thing here?

On the surface it seems simple. If you want to look at it as a Republican you'd believe anything about a group that seems to support terrorists and their causes, a group that hates America and just about everything it stands for. Well I don't think it's that way, at least not in their minds. I believe many Democrats that are taking cash and support from Soros believe they're doing something wonderful and historic for this country. They've rationalized that the suffering their actions are going to cause is a needed stage this country must go through to heal itself. The hell we're about to go through won't kill us they're thinking. Other countries have gone through it and survived and so can we. They don't care that this ideology has resulted in thousands of dead and also resulted in the suffering of millions in those countries. They don't care. They think the possibilities are tremendous. Do you want to allow them to test their beliefs at your expense?

Are you willing to allow them to institute change and transformation which might cause you to lose everything you have? Cause a Depression that might cost you your life or livelihood through starvation or your freedom through incarceration for breaking Green laws. Are you going to sit back while they give away our technology to the rest of the world but prevent us from using it for our own benefit? Are you going to allow them to turn us into a society that is totally dependent on the rest of the world for our needs because, after all, we've been abusing other countries in their minds throughout our history? We're evil. We need to be punished.

Did you know that Spread the Wealth really means paybacks are in order? It's called Collective Salvation. The pillage of the American Dream through transferal of our treasure to the people of the world. All of our strength, wealth, technology, and resources are being sent outside the US so we cannot live the dream that folks like Obama believe is sinful, evil, and oppressive to other countries. It's happening slowly at first but soon it will accelerate to the point that nobody can stop it. Yes there was an initial spurt of cash flowing out of the country through the TARP fund and the Stimulus Fund but it has slowed a bit the last several months. Now's it's a trickle. 20 billion here, 50 billion there. Soon it will accelerate again and it will be too late. The damage done. In 20 years there will be another America. A better America. When they figure that printing billions of dollars is a solution then you'll know that they're getting ready to ruin the dollar. [Guess what.....they announced this last week] Bernanke Prints Dollar Again? | Forex Crunch

Most of the Dems will be taken care of. They've had time to get their houses in order. Possibly set up a home overseas that they can live in safely and comfortably. If they have to they'll leave or the more brave of them may stick around and try to rebuild. Course they'll be risking their lives if they do because we will get wise to them. But after all...they feel they're doing us a favor. Doing something historic. Maybe they feel they can convince us of this. I doubt it but I think some of them think they can. If not...our guns will be gone after they sweep through the country and take them so we'll be defenseless.

Sounds ridiculous doesn't it. Well, this is the mindset of the people currently occupying the White House. We need to be cleansed before we can become the vision they dream of. We have to go through a figurative 40 day and 40 night flood or a depression so we can start over and become a shining example of perfection to the rest of the world. Some of us are going to have to be swept away so the best of us can come to the fore and do great things. This is the dream, the new American Dream that anyone who believes in this philosophy hopes for. They said that what they've done prevented another Depression...but really a Depression is what they're hoping for and what their actions are geared toward.

If you think this is good, and I know some do, then you'll welcome it. This is your dream. You may even benefit from it if you join the right groups.

If it scares the crap out of you then you're on the right track but also at greater risk then anyone.

If you don't care enough to take it seriously and you cannot believe it's possible...well then you most likely will just whine and complain but eventually you may see a better day...or your children might if they go along with the program or just plain get lucky.

This has happened to others and thinking that it can't happen to us is a fool's dream...outright willful ignorance. Obama has been telling us it's coming since before he was put in the Oval Office...he's just been a little short on details. Well the Devil is in the details.

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ObamaGate is Now George Soros Ponzi Scheme Gate

The Hidden Soros Agenda: Drugs, Money, the Media, and Political Power






Your obsession is noted. Seek help.
 
People were making serious money buying properties and rolling them over immediately causing the prices to go up. It got to the point that the profit was becoming less and less. The housing crash just made the value drop out of the market and cause millions to unload their undewater mortgages or just plain walk away from them. This has happened several times in the past. A home that was worth $500k a few months before can now be had for under $100k. Only the rich can take advantage of this kind of deal or banks hoping the government will bail them out. Millions of foreclosed homes are waiting to be unloaded on the market as we speak.

And? It wasn't the poor madly speculating in homes.

It didn't help that the Dems had been saying for years that lending institutions were using unfair lending practices to get people into their homes...so people just didn't feel like giving their lender anymore of their money. A pervasive hatred for Fat-cat bankers encouraged by Democrats became a constant theme in discussions among poorer homeowners. I was in the lending business and was hard pressed to find anyone with a score higher then 600. Nobody wanted to got through with their obligations cause the Democrats keep telling them that Bankers were fucking them in the ass. So bankruptcies skyrocketed. Stated income became the norm. Proof of income didn't have to be provided. Credit scores weren't considered and the poor were allowed to move into homes beyond their means to pay with no money down in some cases.

Yet, following the housing collapse, the rate of default was no higher amongst CRA loans.

Twenty-four of the top 25 subprime lenders did not have CRA mandates. Bigger housing bubbles occurred in several other countries, which BTW, had no CRA mandate. Yet, we are to believe that the CRA "created the conditions" that lead to the housing bubble. You bet.

The tragic part of this whole right wing revisionist history saga is the demise of ACORN. And I am ashamed that Democrats and progressives failed to defend ACORN.

ACORN has been engaged in a major effort to protect our neighborhoods from predatory lending since 1999. The campaign has included work to shine a spotlight on and reform the practices of individual lenders, and in playing a leading role in passing city and state legislation to restrict predatory lending, in winning reforms from federal regulators, and in an ongoing fight to block a bill in Congress aimed at preempting state and local protections.

Progress in the Fight Against Predatory Lending
 
So when exactly was his citizenship revoked?

As an American citizen he can be a governor, senator, congressman, he can vote, donate money, manage hedge funds, manage his email address book, be a member of the CFR, Skull and Bones, the Tri-Lateral Commission, the Boy Scouts, the KKK, and he can travel abroad, across country, and around the block. He is FREE to spend as much time in or outside the USA as he wants no matter how JEALOUS that makes you. :lol:

Jealous???

Of what??

He is a traitor. What's to be jealous of. I fail to see why this man and what he does would make me jealous. He operates outside of the US. His allegiance is not to this country but to his own Capitalist interests. Strange you would support a capitalist. If anyone needed to have his citizenship revoked it would be him. But that is beside the point.

Why you would defend his crimes makes me wonder. By throwing out a strawman argument it shows me you have nothing to say about the OP because you can't argue against it.

Soros Fund Management LLC, founded by George Soros, is a privately held corporation providing financial services and investment strategies for various funds including some controversial hedge funds such as the Quantum Group of Funds. The company's investment strategies have been based on analysis of real or perceived macroeconomic trends in various countries. Soros' companies have been accused of applying pressure on currencies to directly benefit their speculative strategies. Soros responds to these charges by saying that his funds merely take advantage of known weaknesses in the international financial system.
However Soros has been using his money to effect changes in economies like Russia, England, France, and Greece. Now the United States. Therefore he is guilty of influencing the change and making bets that an economy will fail after assuring it's failure.
You are jealous to the point of derangement because he is more of a patriot than you could ever hope to be.

You are jealous because he is a successful CAPITALIST and you are a failed Socialist Marxist Communist.

Short selling is an essential part of the Capitalist system, according to your MessiahRushie.

The Goldman Sachs Inquisition
April 27, 2010
RUSH: Folks, this has me fuming. What Levin here is essentially saying is that Goldman Sachs had devised not one, but a series of complex deals to profit from the collapse of the home mortgage market. Now, isn't that precisely what an investment firm should be doing for its clients? Would it not be irresponsible for them to do anything else? What are clients of Goldman Sachs supposed to do other than profit from hiring them? This is what's wrong with -- and you might be saying, "But, Rush! But, Rush! This is a housing market. This was the American dream and Goldman Sachs is betting on it to fail." Well, they bet both ways, but people bet short all the time. Are we going to eliminate going short on every financial transaction now? Because there's a winner and loser. It's a zero-sum game, folks.
For every winner there's a loser. I don't care which way the winner or loser goes. Sometimes the short seller loses; sometimes the long seller loses but somebody wins.

May 18, 2010
Rush: The German government is floating the idea of implementing a ban on all "naked short selling" in the market there. The euro has dropped by more than 1%. This will actually make things worse if you ban all naked short selling, because if the markets go up with no traders allowed to go short, then you can see a bubble burst as prices get artificially high with no professional shorting against the buying. You always have people on both sides of these things. If you take away the short sellers -- the people guaranteeing that the euro is going to go down or any market, any stock is going to go down -- then you're artificially messing with it, they think short sellers are what's destroying the euro, destroying the markets. This is the government intervening, once again, not knowing at all what they're doing.

You are deranged. Calling me a commie and a Marxist while the guy you support [Obama] is every bit one. Saying anyone who supports this commie/Marxist is a patriot is beyond hilarious. Personally I think you're blinded by your hatred for the opposition. Just like Toro you cannot grasp the concept because you will not open your mind to the facts. Unless it's placed in your lap and explained by reliable sources you will not listen. The tactics that Obama studied in college work well on people like yourself.

You have this annoying habit of just screaming Soros Derangement Syndrome to anything and everything :lalala: in an attempt to drown out the sound of reason.

Toro picked one single aspect out of the story he didn't agree with because he didn't understand or doesn't want to so the whole article to him is bunk. That's a simplistic closed minded excuse not to listen to the rest of the message because it would take some effort to not only grasp the concept but investigate for himself. You on the other hand didn't even bother to absorb shit that was presented to you. You're a lost cause because your argument is pure projection/deflection/moral relativity and rationalization. You place the evils of those you support on anyone who would dare to point their evils out to you. You have symptoms of a zealot and a facilitator that has been exposed to Marxism and bought it hook line and sinker.

Toro has hope......I suspect you are hopeless.

Getting back to the topic....and something both of you haven't grasped yet is that no single event is the cause of the shrinking of our economy. The framework was installed over a long period of time. The authors of this framework have been at it since before the 60s. One philosophy let to another. Obama doesn't just use Cloward and Piven strategy exclusively as a blueprint but also Saul Alinsky and James Cone. I would suggest that if you want to find out what is going on look up the following:

Cloward and Piven Strategy
Rules For Radicals
Black Liberation Theology
George Soro's Open Society
Camp Obama
Project Vote

There's alot more but this is a good start.


Obama is a rabble-rouser. A trouble-maker. That is what Community Organizers are. They cause unrest and conflict. They don't know how to solve problems. They are however very gifted at economic destruction and blaming it all on the opposition through the politics of personal destruction.
 
People were making serious money buying properties and rolling them over immediately causing the prices to go up. It got to the point that the profit was becoming less and less. The housing crash just made the value drop out of the market and cause millions to unload their undewater mortgages or just plain walk away from them. This has happened several times in the past. A home that was worth $500k a few months before can now be had for under $100k. Only the rich can take advantage of this kind of deal or banks hoping the government will bail them out. Millions of foreclosed homes are waiting to be unloaded on the market as we speak.

And? It wasn't the poor madly speculating in homes.

It didn't help that the Dems had been saying for years that lending institutions were using unfair lending practices to get people into their homes...so people just didn't feel like giving their lender anymore of their money. A pervasive hatred for Fat-cat bankers encouraged by Democrats became a constant theme in discussions among poorer homeowners. I was in the lending business and was hard pressed to find anyone with a score higher then 600. Nobody wanted to got through with their obligations cause the Democrats keep telling them that Bankers were fucking them in the ass. So bankruptcies skyrocketed. Stated income became the norm. Proof of income didn't have to be provided. Credit scores weren't considered and the poor were allowed to move into homes beyond their means to pay with no money down in some cases.

Yet, following the housing collapse, the rate of default was no higher amongst CRA loans.

Twenty-four of the top 25 subprime lenders did not have CRA mandates. Bigger housing bubbles occurred in several other countries, which BTW, had no CRA mandate. Yet, we are to believe that the CRA "created the conditions" that lead to the housing bubble. You bet.

No higher then what?? Sub-prime loans??? Prime loans. I don't believe that fucken lie for one single second.

The CRA did lead to the conditions but it did not cause it all by itself.



Why do they call it a bubble???? The answer is very simple.

Because all it takes is one skinny prick to cause it all to pop.


Under the proper conditions with the kind of economic stresses that the Dems placed on the market along with the uncertainty they brought with them it was easy for them to cause the damage that followed. The fact that they've been extending unemployment benefits so that for the first time in our history people have been collecting their unemployment checks for over 2 years tells me that they knew what was coming because they were the cause. They can't seem to grab their ass with both hands but they knew the economy was going in the tank 3 years before it did. Explain that.

This will be hilarious.
 
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People were making serious money buying properties and rolling them over immediately causing the prices to go up. It got to the point that the profit was becoming less and less. The housing crash just made the value drop out of the market and cause millions to unload their undewater mortgages or just plain walk away from them. This has happened several times in the past. A home that was worth $500k a few months before can now be had for under $100k. Only the rich can take advantage of this kind of deal or banks hoping the government will bail them out. Millions of foreclosed homes are waiting to be unloaded on the market as we speak.

And? It wasn't the poor madly speculating in homes.

It didn't help that the Dems had been saying for years that lending institutions were using unfair lending practices to get people into their homes...so people just didn't feel like giving their lender anymore of their money. A pervasive hatred for Fat-cat bankers encouraged by Democrats became a constant theme in discussions among poorer homeowners. I was in the lending business and was hard pressed to find anyone with a score higher then 600. Nobody wanted to got through with their obligations cause the Democrats keep telling them that Bankers were fucking them in the ass. So bankruptcies skyrocketed. Stated income became the norm. Proof of income didn't have to be provided. Credit scores weren't considered and the poor were allowed to move into homes beyond their means to pay with no money down in some cases.
Yet, following the housing collapse, the rate of default was no higher amongst CRA loans.

Twenty-four of the top 25 subprime lenders did not have CRA mandates. Bigger housing bubbles occurred in several other countries, which BTW, had no CRA mandate. Yet, we are to believe that the CRA "created the conditions" that lead to the housing bubble. You bet.

No higher then what?? Sub-prime loans??? Prime loans. I don't believe that fucken lie for one single second.

The CRA did lead to the conditions but it did not cause it all by itself.



Why do they call it a bubble???? The answer is very simple.

Because all it takes is one skinny prick to cause it all to pop.


Under the proper conditions with the kind of economic stresses that the Dems placed on the market along with the uncertainty they brought with them it was easy for them to cause the damage that followed. The fact that they've been extending unemployment benefits so that for the first time in our history people have been collecting their unemployment checks for over 2 years tells me that they knew what was coming because they were the cause. They can't seem to grab their ass with both hands but they knew the economy was going in the tank 3 years before it did. Explain that.

This will be hilarious.
What is truly hilarious is you PRETENDING that 99 weeks is OVER 2 YEARS to rationalize some hairbrained tinfoil hat conspiracy theory!!!! :rofl:

Of course, you are not as stupid as you pretend to be. You lie and exaggerate everything exactly like your mentor Stuttering LimpTard trained you to do. You mindlessly parrot every one of your MessiahRushie's lies from Soros is a foreigner to the Cloward and Piven Strategy to Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals and on and on. He OWNS you. You are incapable of even one thought of your own. :cuckoo:
 
All economies are local. The housing collapse didn't effect everyone equally. Southern California got it worse then Tennessee because the SC market is more volatile. And everyone who's whining about my OP seems to want to ignore ACORN's involvement. With millions of dollars of government cash they're able to hire people to overload the market in key districts causing uncertainty throughout the system. This caused a chain-reaction through heavily populated cities. Fear runs Wall Street but hatred and bigotry rule urban areas. The Democrats not only caused the fear with their speeches over the last 4 years [Ever hear of the phrase Predatory Lending Practices? Wall Street Fat-cats?] but set up the hatred many people have for anyone who makes what they call Obscene Profits. Then all they need do is begin actions through their operatives in ACORN and other groups flooding the system with for lack of a better word protest foreclosures.

Because the poor already hate the rich [thanks to the Democrats]....it leads to the novel idea that walking out on your mortgage is a great way to get back at that rich greedy bastard holding the title. It happened to me personally leaving me holding the bag for thousands of dollars in 07'. I lost over $40,000 on a note I held for sub-prime buyers that walked out on their mortgage. The bank got the house and I lost my profit. So the rich got richer....the poor turned their back on their responsibility and the middle-class, ME, ate the shit-sandwich that was left behind. My only mistake was trusting them and taking a risk that they would go through with their obligations. But as everyone has discovered...people with poor credit aren't going to change their ways unless you go after them and make them change. The way the system is set up there is no legal recourse against a dishonest person other then ruining their credit and taking their possession...and the fact that they already have ruined credit...well...they have nothing to lose if they walk away.

Obama sometimes announces proposals intended to give the impression that he's tightening restrictions on big banks but instead what he's really doing is making it easier for them to do what caused the collapse in the first place. He's really just paying lip-service to the problem and in the meantime making it worse. The same thing happened with the Health Care bill. The cause of higher costs is a lack of competition and government regulations that prevent bargains for the patient and health care providers. Lawsuits cause prices to go up. Medicare's failure to pay full-price causes prices to go up.

Add to all of this the fact that most of the media reports what Democrats want they can easily control the political discourse. Very little gets on the news without their say-so. But if it does they're attacked mercilessly. Racism and discrimination and claims of extremism are their first resort. Using this they discredit any other media sources.
Fox News is racist and extremist. The Tea Party is Racist and extremist. Arizona is Racist and extremist. It never ends. This race-baiting can only work if you're willing to fall for it.

Let's face it...after catching Obama in so many lies...one of which was the lies about the Arizona Immigration bill....even though he never read the thing.....I sometimes wonder why you or anyone chooses to give him the benefit of the doubt. Well....the answer is simple. He controls the media so only Fox News and Rush Limbaugh say he's untrustworthy and those alleged assholes are both racist/extremists. Right??
 
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And? It wasn't the poor madly speculating in homes.

Yet, following the housing collapse, the rate of default was no higher amongst CRA loans.

Twenty-four of the top 25 subprime lenders did not have CRA mandates. Bigger housing bubbles occurred in several other countries, which BTW, had no CRA mandate. Yet, we are to believe that the CRA "created the conditions" that lead to the housing bubble. You bet.

No higher then what?? Sub-prime loans??? Prime loans. I don't believe that fucken lie for one single second.

The CRA did lead to the conditions but it did not cause it all by itself.



Why do they call it a bubble???? The answer is very simple.

Because all it takes is one skinny prick to cause it all to pop.


Under the proper conditions with the kind of economic stresses that the Dems placed on the market along with the uncertainty they brought with them it was easy for them to cause the damage that followed. The fact that they've been extending unemployment benefits so that for the first time in our history people have been collecting their unemployment checks for over 2 years tells me that they knew what was coming because they were the cause. They can't seem to grab their ass with both hands but they knew the economy was going in the tank 3 years before it did. Explain that.

This will be hilarious.
What is truly hilarious is you PRETENDING that 99 weeks is OVER 2 YEARS to rationalize some hairbrained tinfoil hat conspiracy theory!!!! :rofl:

Of course, you are not as stupid as you pretend to be. You lie and exaggerate everything exactly like your mentor Stuttering LimpTard trained you to do. You mindlessly parrot every one of your MessiahRushie's lies from Soros is a foreigner to the Cloward and Piven Strategy to Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals and on and on. He OWNS you. You are incapable of even one thought of your own. :cuckoo:

Back to your projection argument.:blahblah:

Pot meet kettle fuckwad.

Btw....99 wks is a cunthair from being 2 yrs. Maybe parsing words and jumping with both feet on minor details are your deal but in this case it doesn't work.
Oh...and dipshit. There is more then one program to assist the unemployed. Read the following articles at the links below.
http://jobsearch.about.com/od/unemployment/a/unempextension.htm
http://jobsearch.about.com/od/unemployment/a/unemploymentrunsout.htm



Guess you spoke too fucken soon.....which is no surprise for your ass.
 
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No higher then what?? Sub-prime loans??? Prime loans. I don't believe that fucken lie for one single second.

The CRA did lead to the conditions but it did not cause it all by itself.



Why do they call it a bubble???? The answer is very simple.

Because all it takes is one skinny prick to cause it all to pop.


Under the proper conditions with the kind of economic stresses that the Dems placed on the market along with the uncertainty they brought with them it was easy for them to cause the damage that followed. The fact that they've been extending unemployment benefits so that for the first time in our history people have been collecting their unemployment checks for over 2 years tells me that they knew what was coming because they were the cause. They can't seem to grab their ass with both hands but they knew the economy was going in the tank 3 years before it did. Explain that.

This will be hilarious.
What is truly hilarious is you PRETENDING that 99 weeks is OVER 2 YEARS to rationalize some hairbrained tinfoil hat conspiracy theory!!!! :rofl:

Of course, you are not as stupid as you pretend to be. You lie and exaggerate everything exactly like your mentor Stuttering LimpTard trained you to do. You mindlessly parrot every one of your MessiahRushie's lies from Soros is a foreigner to the Cloward and Piven Strategy to Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals and on and on. He OWNS you. You are incapable of even one thought of your own. :cuckoo:

Back to your projection argument.:blahblah:

Pot meet kettle fuckwad.

He can't help it. He's been out there for a couple hours doing the same thing regardless of thread. All it means is defeat for him isn't easy or desirable to admit.
 
For anyone who doesn't think these massive changes can and may take place...
I give you affirmative action, I give you "Women owned business" laws.

These are two examples of where our government directly breaks constitutional law 100,000's of times a day based on an idea of fairness that uses racism and sexism in an attempt to end it.
 
Judging by their last four years of rule,they've already accomplished their goals. They ruined America for sure. The day Pelosi & Reid took power is the day America died. These last four years have been incredibly hard on the People. It's time for the Democrats to go. End of story.
 
No higher then what?? Sub-prime loans??? Prime loans. I don't believe that fucken lie for one single second.

Why not? Can you back it up with any data? I have yet to see any empirical evidence to support your view. I can be convinced but nobody has yet to actually provide data to back up their claim. The only thing I've ever seen is what you've posted, which is a time line suggesting causality. But correlation is not causality.

In fact, all the data suggest otherwise.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/70006-cra-not-to-blame-for-housing-debacle.html

I believe that the conservatives who are promoting this line of reasoning are engaged heavily in confirmation bias.

Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias or myside bias) is a tendency for people to favor information that confirms their preconceptions or hypotheses regardless of whether the information is true.[Note 1][1] As a result, people gather evidence and recall information from memory selectively, and interpret it in a biased way. The biases appear in particular for emotionally significant issues and for established beliefs. For example, in reading about gun control, people usually prefer sources that affirm their existing attitudes. They also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. Biased search, interpretation and/or recall have been invoked to explain attitude polarization (when a disagreement becomes more extreme even though the different parties are exposed to the same evidence), belief perseverance (when beliefs persist after the evidence for them is shown to be false), the irrational primacy effect (a stronger weighting for data encountered early in an arbitrary series) and illusory correlation (in which people falsely perceive an association between two events or situations).

Confirmation bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The fact that they've been extending unemployment benefits so that for the first time in our history people have been collecting their unemployment checks for over 2 years tells me that they knew what was coming because they were the cause.

C'mon. Be serious. That's as nutty as saying Bush was the cause of 9/11 and let it happen. At least the twoofers have a greater body of coincident events.

The government didn't extend entitlements because they were the cause. They extended entitlements because they are liberals. Isn't that enough? You would expect them to do otherwise?
 
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