Gaza construction convoy crosses from Egypt

[Jos]

Gaza is Not a part of israel, is it?

 

[Billo_Really]

wrong again crotch boy----you are engaging in silly sophistry which
simply ---IMMEDIATELY BACKFIRES on you. Did you know that since
1950 there has been a GENERAL BOYCOTT---not only of "ALL
PRODUCTS MADE IN ISRAEL --- BUT EVEN ON ANY COMPANY
IN THE WORLD THAT DOES BUSINESS WITH ISRAEL by all
"MUSLIM LANDS" ???? the concept was that by so doing---
the pigs and dogs would accomplish a STARVATION SIEGE

"collective punishment" "WAR CRIMES"
----do not use those terms
because now you have to eat them

A boycott on Israeli products, is not the same thing as a military quarantine of an entire area with 1.5 million people.

No one should be punished for a crime they didn't commit. That is the basis of making "collective punishment" a war crime. And this blockade collectively punishes everyone in Gaza.

Nations may indeed decide whether or not to have economic or any relations with other states. It may not interfere in the lawful right of nations (including Palestine) to engage politically, economically or other legal ways with countries it chooses.

Blockading Gaza is illegal. Doing so is an act of war. It’s also a crime against humanity. So is brutality in any form as well as high-seas piracy.


“No State may exercise any kind of jurisdiction over foreign vessels as long as there is no suspicion of slave trading, weapons or drug smuggling, piracy or unauthorized broadcasting. Since none of these exceptions existed, Israel had no right to stop and seize Estelle.”

“Imposing a naval blockade is only possible in an International Armed Conflict which requires at least two conflicting States. Since Israel does not recognize the State of Palestine, the conditions for an International Armed Conflict are not fulfilled.”

“Therefore, there is also no legal ground to impose a naval blockade on the Gaza Strip.”

 

[Billo_Really]

Such are the wages of islamic terrorism.

Most of the Western world rigorously screen ships bearing products coming into our ports, albeit not as rigorously as the Israeli navy does. But then again, most of the western world is not beset with violent, Islamic terrorist wolves at our borders, chomping at our arses.

All of the major U.S. ports for example, screen cargo deliveries and routinely screen for such things as smuggled radioactive material. I know of nowhere along the U.S. coast where a container ship could dock and unload without being inspected.

You may have even read in the newspapers that we even screen people and materials at airports. That must be why we walk through those arched thing-ees before boarding an airline. I’m always thinking we’re going to get a complimentary Big-Mac but it hasn’t happened yet. Insha'Allah empty your pockets and walk through please.

Screening ships coming into your ports is legal and a good idea. But screening ships coming into another country's ports, is an act of war. Israel has no legal jurisdiction to interfere with goods and services coming into (and out of) Gaza.

 

[Hollie]

Such are the wages of islamic terrorism.

Most of the Western world rigorously screen ships bearing products coming into our ports, albeit not as rigorously as the Israeli navy does. But then again, most of the western world is not beset with violent, Islamic terrorist wolves at our borders, chomping at our arses.

All of the major U.S. ports for example, screen cargo deliveries and routinely screen for such things as smuggled radioactive material. I know of nowhere along the U.S. coast where a container ship could dock and unload without being inspected.

You may have even read in the newspapers that we even screen people and materials at airports. That must be why we walk through those arched thing-ees before boarding an airline. I’m always thinking we’re going to get a complimentary Big-Mac but it hasn’t happened yet. Insha'Allah empty your pockets and walk through please.

Screening ships coming into your ports is legal and a good idea. But screening ships coming into another country's ports, is an act of war. Israel has no legal jurisdiction to interfere with goods and services coming into (and out of) Gaza.

With specific regard to the Israeli navy boarding the phony “aid” vessel, some definition is in order. The vessel was approached by an Israeli Capital ship and boarded after communications were exchanged advising the "flotilla" ship's Captain of the consequences of breaking the blockade.

But beyond that, there are decisions that have to be made when, in the case of Israel, your very life is at stake. You refuse to acknowledge that weapons and ammunition are a prime import material for the many islamist terrorist groups infesting Gaza. Those weapons invariably wind up being hurled at Israel. If my life depended upon having to baby-sit the rabid wolves who are sworn to my destruction, I would do precisely as Israel does.

Thanks for your concern.

 

[Billo_Really]

With specific regard to the Israeli navy boarding the phony “aid” vessel, some definition is in order. The vessel was approached by an Israeli Capital ship and boarded after communications were exchanged advising the "flotilla" ship's Captain of the consequences of breaking the blockade.

But beyond that, there are decisions that have to be made when, in the case of Israel, your very life is at stake. You refuse to acknowledge that weapons and ammunition are a prime import material for the many islamist terrorist groups infesting Gaza. Those weapons invariably wind up being hurled at Israel. If my life depended upon having to baby-sit the rabid wolves who are sworn to my destruction, I would do precisely as Israel does.

Thanks for your concern.

Stopping a vessel in international waters that is flying under the flag of a sovereign nation, is an act of piracy.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Actually, no.

Actually, yes.

What do you think happens during an economic blockade that allows 10-15 trucks a day into an area that needs 160 trucks a day to survive?

UNICEF reports it causes malnutrition and stunted growth in children in Gaza, and they were reporting deaths of 5000 children a year a few years ago, from preventable medical conditions. They also reported widespread deafness from deliberate sonic booms Israe; subjected the children to, and they would not even allow hearing aids into Gaza for years.

Sherri

 

[Hollie]

Actually, no.

Actually, yes.

What do you think happens during an economic blockade that allows 10-15 trucks a day into an area that needs 160 trucks a day to survive?

UNICEF reports it causes malnutrition and stunted growth in children in Gaza, and they were reporting deaths of 5000 children a year a few years ago, from preventable medical conditions. They also reported widespread deafness from deliberate sonic booms Israe; subjected the children to, and they would not even allow hearing aids into Gaza for years.

Sherri

Anything in your UNICEF report referencing thousands of rockets fired by islamist terrorist groups from Gaza?

Those "thousands of rockets fired by islamist terrorist groups from Gaza", would have been tens of thousands......" if not for vigilence on the part of Israel.

The "Palestinians" do have a choice - fire rockets or feed your family. You decide.

 

[Hollie]

With specific regard to the Israeli navy boarding the phony “aid” vessel, some definition is in order. The vessel was approached by an Israeli Capital ship and boarded after communications were exchanged advising the "flotilla" ship's Captain of the consequences of breaking the blockade.

But beyond that, there are decisions that have to be made when, in the case of Israel, your very life is at stake. You refuse to acknowledge that weapons and ammunition are a prime import material for the many islamist terrorist groups infesting Gaza. Those weapons invariably wind up being hurled at Israel. If my life depended upon having to baby-sit the rabid wolves who are sworn to my destruction, I would do precisely as Israel does.

Thanks for your concern.

Stopping a vessel in international waters that is flying under the flag of a sovereign nation, is an act of piracy.

You should write a strongly worded email to the Israeli government. Type it in caps for emphasis.

 

[irosie91]

Umm, you're kidding right?

It was a troll provocation ship used to vilify Israel.

Why would they try to break the blockade if they KNEW they would get boarded and searched !?!?

Because the blockade has created an humanitarian crisis and Gazan's are starving!

crotchboy----the gazans have NEVER starved they were fed by the UN ---fairly
well before 1967 but did not have much in the way of medical care.
After 1967 their standard of living rose to WAY ABOVE
most muslims in the world as did their general health and their
infant survival rate TOPS most muslim countries. I have never
encountered a skinny gazan male----or even a NON OVERWEIGHT
gazan famale

 

[Jos]

You should write a strongly worded email to the Israeli government. Type it in caps for emphasis.

They aint listening, Not to The UN, Not to Europe, Not even to their cash cow, the USA
They aint even listening when they are told, pay-back will be a bitch, who will they cry out to for justice then?

 

[irosie91]

you are engaging in idiotic sophistry again crotch boy---
the COMPREHENSIVE BOYCOTT on israel was designed to be a STARVATION SIEGE on the
entire population of Israel---
starvation siege is one of the HISTORICALLY favored ways that you and yours comitted genocides
More than a million
Biafran babies dead in the dust-----was the result of your customs in the early 1970s -----
your people did it in sudan
too The Gazans have NEVER starved-----they did not do too well before 1967----but after that ---
they tend to be bit overweight---creating a high incidence of diabetes type II

Starvation is not hard to detect----you have any pictures of lethargic emaciated gazans?
Even sherri does not ---even
her HUNGER strikers are clearly not suffering from long term caloric deprivation

 

[irosie91]

Actually, no.

Actually, yes.

What do you think happens during an economic blockade that allows 10-15 trucks a day into an area that needs 160 trucks a day to survive?

What do you think happens during an economic boycott
so comprehensive that it blocks import of VITAL food products,
farming and transport machinery and tools and parts etc etc.
from almost ALL SOURCES-----that is precisely what the islamo
nazi pigs inflicted on Israel in the 1950s It did happen---
the country which had incorporated REAL STARVING people
emaciated from the effort of escaping shariah shit holes
-----a famine----the good news is that thru very careful
rationing and a robust effort at developing vital food stuffs
which in the zionist mind means ---bread, milk and eggs---
and SELLING THEM BELOW COST to the
public via government subsidy----the faux "sunday school,
lawyer, teachers" did not get to dance on dead jewish
baby bodies.

for more information--consult the literature----food science,
medical etc----did benefit from the effort

did you know that Israel was blocked from importing
the most vital product of all ? to wit PEPSI COLA

war crime

 

[P F Tinmore]

what for? how would "opening the borders to gaza" come to be

"putting shoulder to the wheel"?? When the borders were fairly

opened and Israel allowed gazans to have jobs in Israel ---you and

your fellow islamo nazi pigs claimed "EXPLOITATION" --there are

lots of MUSLIM LANDS with endless wealth that can employ your

fellow dogs and pigs

Are you proud of your bigotry, rosie?

Israel could end it's illegal blockade of Gaza'a coastal waters and air space if the "chosen" ones had the slightest intention of allowing democracy to take hold in the occupied territories.

Of course, we both know that has never been the Zionist plan in Palestine.

We need to understand some history and acknowledge that Hamas and other rival / competing islamist terrorist syndicates view any easing of import restrictions by Israel as an invitation to import and stockpile weapons for their next attack on Israel.

We even had the carnival of comedy of the “flotilla aid groups” looking to thwart the naval blockade. It was a propaganda stunt from start to finish. The intent was to publically break a military blockade and provoke a confrontation, not to deliver goods to Hamas in Gaza. If it had been the latter, they could have done so peacefully through ports in Israel and Egypt--as was offered repeatedly. The whining regarding "International waters" is a strawman, as the flotilla had made its intent known and had come to Israeli waters and then waited for dawn to provide a better light for filming the confrontation they planned, anticipated, and for which they got.

It was a propaganda stunt from start to finish.

It was. And it was a good one, indeed. It put Israel in a lose, lose position. If Israel allowed the ships through, it could lose its precious blockade. If it took the meat head approach (that it did) it would give itself a big black eye for the world to see.

BDS saw a big jump after the flotilla incident.

...the flotilla had made its intent known and had come to Israeli waters...

Not true. They specifically stated that they had no intent to go to Israel.

 

[Billo_Really]

What do you think happens during an economic boycott
so comprehensive that it blocks import of VITAL food products,
farming and transport machinery and tools and parts etc etc.
from almost ALL SOURCES-----that is precisely what the islamo
nazi pigs inflicted on Israel in the 1950s It did happen---
the country which had incorporated REAL STARVING people
emaciated from the effort of escaping shariah shit holes
-----a famine----the good news is that thru very careful
rationing and a robust effort at developing vital food stuffs
which in the zionist mind means ---bread, milk and eggs---
and SELLING THEM BELOW COST to the
public via government subsidy----the faux "sunday school,
lawyer, teachers" did not get to dance on dead jewish
baby bodies.

for more information--consult the literature----food science,
medical etc----did benefit from the effort

did you know that Israel was blocked from importing
the most vital product of all ? to wit PEPSI COLA

war crime

Oh no, what will the world do without more hummus on the shelves?

 

[Billo_Really]

you are engaging in idiotic sophistry again crotch boy---
the COMPREHENSIVE BOYCOTT on israel was designed to be a STARVATION SIEGE on the
entire population of Israel---
starvation siege is one of the HISTORICALLY favored ways that you and yours comitted genocides
More than a million
Biafran babies dead in the dust-----was the result of your customs in the early 1970s -----
your people did it in sudan
too The Gazans have NEVER starved-----they did not do too well before 1967----but after that ---
they tend to be bit overweight---creating a high incidence of diabetes type II

Starvation is not hard to detect----you have any pictures of lethargic emaciated gazans?
Even sherri does not ---even
her HUNGER strikers are clearly not suffering from long term caloric deprivation

Nice try.

 

[Billo_Really]

Anything in your UNICEF report referencing thousands of rockets fired by islamist terrorist groups from Gaza?

Those "thousands of rockets fired by islamist terrorist groups from Gaza", would have been tens of thousands......" if not for vigilence on the part of Israel.

The "Palestinians" do have a choice - fire rockets or feed your family. You decide.

The rockets were fired in response to an Israeli air strike or commando raid.

 

[toastman]

Anything in your UNICEF report referencing thousands of rockets fired by islamist terrorist groups from Gaza?

Those "thousands of rockets fired by islamist terrorist groups from Gaza", would have been tens of thousands......" if not for vigilence on the part of Israel.

The "Palestinians" do have a choice - fire rockets or feed your family. You decide.

The rockets were fired in response to an Israeli air strike or commando raid.

Suuuure they were

And your comment before on how Gazans are starving is a seriously ignorant comment ! I mean really dude??

 

[toastman]

In response to loinboys comment that Gazans are starving

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNnCGfAlSq8]Palestinians Admit Gaza Is Not Starving; Hamas Steals Aid! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[tjvh]

Construction convoy??? I sure hope no stupid American protesters get rolled over by a bulldozer this time around.

 

[Billo_Really]

Suuuure they were

And your comment before on how Gazans are starving is a seriously ignorant comment ! I mean really dude??

From Reuters...

the humanitarian situation in Gaza during 2011 and 2012 continued to be characterized by poverty, unemployment, forced displacement, lack of access to basic goods and services, impeded freedom of movement, aid dependency, food insecurity, confiscation and inadequate access to healthcare, education, jobs and markets.

From the BBC...

the worst humanitarian crisis in the strip since Israel occupied it in the 1967 war, and describe it as a man-made disaster resulting from the isolation and blockade of Gaza after its take-over by Hamas militants last June.

From Amnesty International...

Israel maintained its military blockade of Gaza, imposed in 2007, and closed the Karni crossing in March, leaving Kerem Shalom as the only entry point for goods, despite its lack of capacity. The blockade prolonged the humanitarian crisis faced by Gaza’s 1.6 million residents, more than 70 per cent of whom were dependent on humanitarian aid. A near-complete ban on exports continued, stifling the economy, and severe restrictions on imports fuelled shortages and high prices. The blockade constituted collective punishment – a breach of international law – and particularly affected children and the sick. The Israeli authorities hindered or prevented hundreds of patients from leaving Gaza to obtain medical treatment.