Gays in the military - a choice

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SpidermanTuba, Feb 15, 2010.

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Which of the two people would you rather be in the military during war time?

  1. A gay person - as a vounteer - who is eager and willing and able to serve his or her country

    5 vote(s)
    55.6%
  2. Your son or daughter or grandchildren - as a draftee.

    4 vote(s)
    44.4%
  1. SpidermanTuba
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    pick
     
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    I think we should ask the vets for their opinion on the matter.
     
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    I pick Phil Jones. :D
     
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    My Granddaughter deploys to Afghanistan later this year. I couldn't be more proud.
     
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    That's great, but unless she was drafted against her will (which I somehow doubt), I fail to see the relevance to the poll question.


    If there aren't enough volunteers then a draft becomes a necessity. Are you telling me you'd rather press 10,000 people who are unwilling to serve into service to keep from having 10,000 people who are eager to serve but just happen to fuck people of the same sex out?
     
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    Ollie is a complete and utter homophobe.....what did you expect?
     
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    I was in the Navy for 20 years and 5 days. Honorably retired as a Chief Petty Officer. I only know of 5 different incidents involving homosexuals that I can say I know about first hand and not things I have heard you might label strictly as hear say. It has been my experience that there are certainly homosexuals serving in the military that have not disclosed their sexual preferences - not have come out of the closet, if you will. I have witnessed some here and there that you might strongly suspect as being a homosexual but never confronted because they did nothing out of line with normal duties. However, in the 5 cases that I do know about personally, it was not a good day for the people who were disclosed as being homosexuals. It was not a life style that was accepted very well by the straight sailors once they found out a fellow sailor was a homosexual.

    Now, I have been retired for 20 years so I have been out of the military service for as long as I was in the service. Things and times change but I just don't think there has been that much of a change in the last 20 years as to warrant the belief that a serviceman serving in the military, openly homosexual, is going to encounter a pleasant situation - even if they change all of the present rules governing homosexual service. The prevailing attitude is that it doesn't matter and will be easily accepted by today's servicemen. I, for one, don't believe it.
     
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    Oh horseshit, you only dream these things because I disagree.
     
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    Ok, I say let the gays be able to be out in the open because they sure as hell are already in the services. They should be able to serve and not worry about being kicked out for being gay. That sucks.
     
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    DADT works, Gays can serve if they so desire without any problems. Why do they need to be open about it?
     

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