Gayocaust

[Urbanguerrilla]

"Claims by gay activists and their supporters for the number of homosexuals killed by the Third Reich reach as high as one million, and assertions that it was a quarter of a million or half a million are common.

The actual number of gays who died or were killed in the camps appears to be around five thousand, conceivably as high as ten thousand."

-Peter Novick, The Holocaust in American Life, p. 223.

So according to Novick, 5,000 gays died in the camp and not a million or whatever. Yet again a holocaust number is reduced, that seems to be the name of the holocaust game these days, everything was over-egged and has to be brought down due to increasing pressure from revisionists.

 

[bodecea]

Claims by gay activists and their supporters for the number of homosexuals killed by the Third Reich reach as high as one million, and assertions that it was a quarter of a million or half a million are common.

The actual number of gays who died or were killed in the camps appears to be around five thousand, conceivably as high as ten thousand.

-Peter Novick, The Holocaust in American Life, p. 223.

So according to Novick, 5,000 gays died in the camp and not a million or whatever. Yet again a holocaust number is reduced, that seems to be the name of the holocaust game these days, everything was over-egged and has to be brought down due to increasing pressure from revisionists.

And when the war was over, they weren't freed, they were kept imprisoned by the Allies.

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

Claims by gay activists and their supporters for the number of homosexuals killed by the Third Reich reach as high as one million, and assertions that it was a quarter of a million or half a million are common.

The actual number of gays who died or were killed in the camps appears to be around five thousand, conceivably as high as ten thousand.

-Peter Novick, The Holocaust in American Life, p. 223.

So according to Novick, 5,000 gays died in the camp and not a million or whatever. Yet again a holocaust number is reduced, that seems to be the name of the holocaust game these days, everything was over-egged and has to be brought down due to increasing pressure from revisionists.

And when the war was over, they weren't freed, they were kept imprisoned by the Allies.

The passage above, from a 2000 book by an eminent Jewish historian, satisfies my definition of "Holocaust revisionism," and perhaps that, of other people, for "Holocaust denial." Except for one thing. It has nothing to do with Jews. It has to do with other victims of the Holocaust, specifically homosexuals, a group to which the author apparently did not belong. Nor has this group been instrumental in getting laws passed that criminalize "denying or minimizing National Socialist crimes during World War II," the touchstone of (criminal) "Holocaust denial."

Accordingly, a German translation of this book, under the title Nach dem Holocaust (After the Holocaust) is available today on the German Amazon Website, unlike works by Wilhelm Stäglich such as Der Auschwitz Mythos (The Auschwitz Myth), which remains banned under Germany's Holocaust denial laws1. But Peter Novick (the author quoted above) is not-otherwise-any sort of "Holocaust denier." His book, though incisive about the misuses to which Holocaust history has been put, and the dubious causes it is used today to promote, is replete with affirmations of the Six Million meme, including gas chambers, exterminative intent, and the rest of the program with which every reader of these words has undoubtedly been imbued since early childhood.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The actual figure was undoubtedly much higher because homosexuality was a carefully guarded secret. Nonetheless, 5000 is an horrendous number.

 

[Papageorgio]

According to what I have read, 250,000-500,000 gypsies were killed, homosexuals 9000, Jehovah's Witnesses 1000.

 

[Indeependent]

If only one human was murdered, it was one too many.

 

[Papageorgio]

If only one human was murdered, it was one too many.

Agreed.


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[NYcarbineer]

Claims by gay activists and their supporters for the number of homosexuals killed by the Third Reich reach as high as one million, and assertions that it was a quarter of a million or half a million are common.

The actual number of gays who died or were killed in the camps appears to be around five thousand, conceivably as high as ten thousand.

-Peter Novick, The Holocaust in American Life, p. 223.

So according to Novick, 5,000 gays died in the camp and not a million or whatever. Yet again a holocaust number is reduced, that seems to be the name of the holocaust game these days, everything was over-egged and has to be brought down due to increasing pressure from revisionists.

Where can one find the hundreds or thousands of claims that half a million gays were killed by the Nazis,

given your assertion that such claims are 'common'.

 

[dilloduck]

Gay Jews-----what column did the Nazis put them in ? Gay or Jew ?

 

[Manonthestreet]

BTW it was Gays that gassed em

 

[MaryL]

The "NAZIS" killed innocent people, children with autism, the mentally illl, you name it.
We can all agree on that. What we may not agree on, is homosexuality a separate distinctive class apart from the mentally ill? I think not.

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

The actual figure was undoubtedly much higher because homosexuality was a carefully guarded secret. Nonetheless, 5000 is an horrendous number.

Given the huge numbers dying in the camps and through bombing its fairly negligible.

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

According to what I have read, 250,000-500,000 gypsies were killed, homosexuals 9000, Jehovah's Witnesses 1000.

They used to think 4 million were murdered at Auschwitz, now it is accepted this was very exaggerated.

All of the camps had ridiculous figures usually in millions of deaths associated with them originally, most have been brought down a great deal.

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

If only one human was murdered, it was one too many.

Tru dat

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

Claims by gay activists and their supporters for the number of homosexuals killed by the Third Reich reach as high as one million, and assertions that it was a quarter of a million or half a million are common.

The actual number of gays who died or were killed in the camps appears to be around five thousand, conceivably as high as ten thousand.

-Peter Novick, The Holocaust in American Life, p. 223.

So according to Novick, 5,000 gays died in the camp and not a million or whatever. Yet again a holocaust number is reduced, that seems to be the name of the holocaust game these days, everything was over-egged and has to be brought down due to increasing pressure from revisionists.

Where can one find the hundreds or thousands of claims that half a million gays were killed by the Nazis,

given your assertion that such claims are 'common'.

Thats a quote from Novick the Author, I'll stick in a couple of quotation marks.

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

The "NAZIS" killed innocent people, children with autism, the mentally ill, you name it.

So did the US, they were all as bad as each other.

 

[Papageorgio]

The "NAZIS" killed innocent people, children with autism, the mentally ill, you name it.

So did the US, they were all as bad as each other.

That is where you and I disagree, the German's were far worse, the US did not systematically try to kill, torture and experiment on people because of their race, color, religion or sexual orientation.


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[Urbanguerrilla]

The "NAZIS" killed innocent people, children with autism, the mentally ill, you name it.

So did the US, they were all as bad as each other.

That is where you and I disagree, the German's were far worse, the US did not systematically try to kill, torture and experiment on people because of their race, color, religion or sexual orientation.

To believe that simple line is to fall for the winning teams propaganda, life is not like that in reality. The US also imprisoned Japanese and German civilians because of their race, colour, class and creed.

I dont believe in the gas chamber 'house of horror' nonsense or the hugely inflated death tolls, you were sold a bill-of-goods on all that, it was all propaganda, like the one about turning people into soap and making lamp shades out of them.

Lets face it politicians, governments and the military lie to us all the time...and most of us fall for the lies again and again...

 

[Statistikhengst]

"Claims by gay activists and their supporters for the number of homosexuals killed by the Third Reich reach as high as one million, and assertions that it was a quarter of a million or half a million are common.

The actual number of gays who died or were killed in the camps appears to be around five thousand, conceivably as high as ten thousand."

-Peter Novick, The Holocaust in American Life, p. 223.

So according to Novick, 5,000 gays died in the camp and not a million or whatever. Yet again a holocaust number is reduced, that seems to be the name of the holocaust game these days, everything was over-egged and has to be brought down due to increasing pressure from revisionists.

Peter Novick wrote a lot of crap that most people do not agree with. He died at 77, in 2012.

End of story.

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

"Claims by gay activists and their supporters for the number of homosexuals killed by the Third Reich reach as high as one million, and assertions that it was a quarter of a million or half a million are common.

The actual number of gays who died or were killed in the camps appears to be around five thousand, conceivably as high as ten thousand."

-Peter Novick, The Holocaust in American Life, p. 223.

So according to Novick, 5,000 gays died in the camp and not a million or whatever. Yet again a holocaust number is reduced, that seems to be the name of the holocaust game these days, everything was over-egged and has to be brought down due to increasing pressure from revisionists.

Peter Novick wrote a lot of crap that most people do not agree with. He died at 77, in 2012.

End of story.

Why do you not agree with him?