"Gaming" of the food stamp system needs to stop!

[Dot Com]

If you can't pay a living wage then maybe its time to reevaluate your business plan

How McDonald's and Wal-Mart Became Welfare Queens - Bloomberg

massive taxpayer subsidies for private companies.

Why are profitable, dividend-paying firms receiving taxpayer subsidies?

Is this what Ayn would have wanted? Where's the boot-strapper (Repub) outrage?

discuss...

 

[dblack]

Yup... sounds like that food stamp program needs some fixing.

 

[Avorysuds]

Thanks for bringing up that welfare effects business in a way that allows them to pay such low wages that tax payers are covering the bill through welfare.

Its important that people understand how destructive welfare has become, to a point where it has eroded jobs to a degree where giant corporations can cut payroll yet still stay in business. This allows them to kill off competition to a smaller business that pays their employee's better.

Welfare creates more welfare as proven by the simple fact that by % of people on welfare has only grown over the years, not decreased.


End welfare if you want better paying jobs.

Thanks DotCom.

 

[dblack]

Thanks for bringing up that welfare effects business in a way that allows them to pay such low wages that tax payers are covering the bill through welfare.

Its important that people understand how destructive welfare has become, to a point where it has eroded jobs to a degree where giant corporations can cut payroll yet still stay in business. This allows them to kill off competition to a smaller business that pays their employee's better.

Welfare creates more welfare as proven by the simple fact that by % of people on welfare has only grown over the years, not decreased.


End welfare if you want better paying jobs.

Thanks DotCom.

Yep, yet another corporate subsidy.

 

[Dot Com]

Thanks for bringing up that welfare effects business in a way that allows them to pay such low wages that tax payers are covering the bill through welfare.

Its important that people understand how destructive welfare has become, to a point where it has eroded jobs to a degree where giant corporations can cut payroll yet still stay in business. This allows them to kill off competition to a smaller business that pays their employee's better.

Welfare creates more welfare as proven by the simple fact that by % of people on welfare has only grown over the years, not decreased.


End welfare if you want better paying jobs.

Thanks DotCom.

you think those corps wouldn't fight it?

 

[DriftingSand]

If you can't pay a living wage then maybe its time to reevaluate your business plan

How McDonald's and Wal-Mart Became Welfare Queens - Bloomberg

massive taxpayer subsidies for private companies.

Why are profitable, dividend-paying firms receiving taxpayer subsidies?

Is this what Ayn would have wanted? Where's the boot-strapper (Repub) outrage?

discuss...

Here's one "Repub's" solution:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GVP7dmcHBQ"]Sean Hannity Goes One-On-One With Surfer On Welfare - YouTube[/ame]

By the way ... large corporations employ lots of people. Better to have a job than to not have a job. AND, nobody is forced to take a job at Walmart or Kmart. They have a choice.

 

[dblack]

Thanks for bringing up that welfare effects business in a way that allows them to pay such low wages that tax payers are covering the bill through welfare.

Its important that people understand how destructive welfare has become, to a point where it has eroded jobs to a degree where giant corporations can cut payroll yet still stay in business. This allows them to kill off competition to a smaller business that pays their employee's better.

Welfare creates more welfare as proven by the simple fact that by % of people on welfare has only grown over the years, not decreased.


End welfare if you want better paying jobs.

Thanks DotCom.

you think those corps wouldn't fight it?

Tooth and nail

 

[Dot Com]

Thanks for bringing up that welfare effects business in a way that allows them to pay such low wages that tax payers are covering the bill through welfare.

Its important that people understand how destructive welfare has become, to a point where it has eroded jobs to a degree where giant corporations can cut payroll yet still stay in business. This allows them to kill off competition to a smaller business that pays their employee's better.

Welfare creates more welfare as proven by the simple fact that by % of people on welfare has only grown over the years, not decreased.


End welfare if you want better paying jobs.

Thanks DotCom.

you think those corps wouldn't fight it?

Tooth and nail

Exactly. EVERY school child knows that its the repubs who fight to keep states from having to pay a living wage or offer benefits and retirement plans that don't get liquidated when the companies go under due to malfeasance at the top.

 

[Meathead]

Maybe they shouldn't subsidize those who choose to work part-time. If you work 20 hours a week and qualify for food stamps, there isn't that much incentive to work full time.

America has turned into a welfare state that lazy people expect to be subsidized by the government. The American work ethic is a thing of the past.

 

[KNB]

What happens when you cut someone's food stamps and welfare and they still can't find a job because the job creators have created all of the jobs in China and are hoarding all of their record corporate profits in overseas accounts?

 

[dblack]

you think those corps wouldn't fight it?

Tooth and nail

Exactly. EVERY school child knows that its the repubs who fight to keep states from having to pay a living wage or offer benefits and retirement plans that don't get liquidated when the companies go under due to malfeasance at the top.

Speaking of school children, my youngest was about nine when he asked why, if the government wanted to help poor people, they didn't just give everyone ten thousand dollars a month. I explained to him how economic value is relative and how doing such a thing really wouldn't change the plight of the poor. After some thought, he got it. Why do Democrats have so much trouble with the concept?

 

[Dot Com]

Maybe they shouldn't subsidize those who choose to work part-time. If you work 20 hours a week and qualify for food stamps, there isn't that much incentive to work full time.

America has turned into a welfare state that lazy people expect to be subsidized by the government. The American work ethic is a thing of the past.

WHOOSH!!! Went right over your head.

The reason they pay the low wages is because they know they can have a sweat shop labor force and foist the underpaid workers off on the tax payers making it a 'stealth tax'. Much like Repubs, and everyone else, was paying a stealth tax to pay for people w/o health insurance who went to ER's.

 

[BobPlumb]

This thread is too funny. Democrates create the walfare system and then complain about the businesses that use low skill employees because some of those employees are on welfare.

People are paid biased on what their labor is worth to their employer, it's really that simple. However, since many employees are subsidized by government entitlements, they have less incentive to do what is necessary to become more valuable members of the labor market. This is Econ 101.

 

[Two Thumbs]

best way to avoid needing food stamps is to take responsibility for your own life and don't have kids if you can't afford them.

and yes, that means not fucking if you don't have double birth control

and if you can't afford that, then you need to wait until you can

it's called being an adult

 

[Unkotare]

If you can't pay a living wage then maybe its time to reevaluate your business plan...

"Living wage".......

 

[O.R.I.O.N]

best way to avoid needing food stamps is to take responsibility for your own life and don't have kids if you can't afford them.

and yes, that means not fucking if you don't have double birth control

and if you can't afford that, then you need to wait until you can

it's called being an adult

How you ever gonna afford ANYTHING much less kids if the slave master won't pay a livable wage? Man you republicans are dense or you just hate the poor.

 

[dblack]

best way to avoid needing food stamps is to take responsibility for your own life and don't have kids if you can't afford them.

and yes, that means not fucking if you don't have double birth control

and if you can't afford that, then you need to wait until you can

it's called being an adult

How you ever gonna afford ANYTHING much less kids if the slave master won't pay a livable wage? Man you republicans are dense or you just hate the poor.

Whoa! Slave master? Isn't slavery illegal?

 

[Dot Com]

This thread is too funny. Democrates create the walfare system and then complain about the businesses that use low skill employees because some of those employees are on welfare.

People are paid biased on what their labor is worth to their employer, it's really that simple. However, since many employees are subsidized by government entitlements, they have less incentive to do what is necessary to become more valuable members of the labor market. This is Econ 101.

Who is "Democrates"?

Nevermind. They don't hire them because they're already on welfare . They hire them at low wages & point them to the social welfare office to make up the diff. I really should charge you people for leading you by the hand to the truth.

 

[BobPlumb]

best way to avoid needing food stamps is to take responsibility for your own life and don't have kids if you can't afford them.

and yes, that means not fucking if you don't have double birth control

and if you can't afford that, then you need to wait until you can

it's called being an adult

How you ever gonna afford ANYTHING much less kids if the slave master won't pay a livable wage? Man you republicans are dense or you just hate the poor.

It's not a matter of"hate"! It's simple economics. The employee and employer agree to a rate of pay that is benificial to both parties.

 

[O.R.I.O.N]

best way to avoid needing food stamps is to take responsibility for your own life and don't have kids if you can't afford them.

and yes, that means not fucking if you don't have double birth control

and if you can't afford that, then you need to wait until you can

it's called being an adult

How you ever gonna afford ANYTHING much less kids if the slave master won't pay a livable wage? Man you republicans are dense or you just hate the poor.

Whoa! Slave master? Isn't slavery illegal?

Wage slavery refers to a situation perceived as quasi-voluntary slavery, where a person's livelihood depends on wages, especially when the dependence is total and immediate.

best way to avoid needing food stamps is to take responsibility for your own life and don't have kids if you can't afford them.

and yes, that means not fucking if you don't have double birth control

and if you can't afford that, then you need to wait until you can

it's called being an adult

How you ever gonna afford ANYTHING much less kids if the slave master won't pay a livable wage? Man you republicans are dense or you just hate the poor.

It's not a matter of"hate"! It's simple economics. The employee and employer agree to a rate of pay that is benificial to both parties.

Not hardly. Its wage slavery as I posted above...Its only beneficial to the CEO who is getting his product made,sold,etc for a very low wage.
Wage slavery refers to a situation perceived as quasi-voluntary slavery, where a person's livelihood depends on wages, especially when the dependence is total and immediate.