French Senate passes gay marriage and adoption

[WorldWatcher]

They are being FORCED to have a gay marriage? Really? Or are OTHER citizens allowed something that they already have. How does that impose on them? Give us some clear facts on how gay marriage IMPOSES on those who do not desire to have a gay marriage.

Ask the bakery that refused to bake a wedding cake for a same sex wedding if gay marriage imposes anything on them.

Does that baker live in a state which has equal access laws? If that baker does, the same would have happened if they refused a black couple, or a Jewish couple.

Well?

Link -->> Bakery Denies Same-Sex Couple Wedding Cake - ABC News

Note -->> Oregon doesn't have Same-sex Civil Marriage

Note -->> Oregon does have Public Accommodation laws (§ 659A.403 Discrimination in place of public accommodation prohibited

"Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, all persons within the jurisdiction of this state are entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any place of public accommodation, without any distinction, discrimination or restriction on account of race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, marital status or age if the individual is 18 years of age or older."​

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[Euroconservativ]

I find it funny that CNN, HuffP and other liberal political websites try to portray opposition to gay marriage as exclusively "christian/catholic" and "social conservative". This is a smart way to kill any debate, for sure.

Let me insist. Only 5 senator from the centre-right party UMP voted for gay marriage, and 125 voted against it.

I can assure you that the UMP is full of non-religious lawmakers.

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Are these people talking about God??


Legislators from the more conservative Union for a Popular Movement party (UMP), warned that the legislation would violate the rights of children and make a mockery of the concept of parentage, but to no avail.

"Marriage unites a man and a woman for the purpose of procreation. Two men or two women can never have children," observed Charles Revet of the UMP. Jean-Claude Lenoir, of the same party, denounced "the profound transformation of parentage, from a biological reality to a juridical illusion."

The UMP was joined by members of the Centrist Union Party, who warned that the legislation would lead to government-sponsored Medically Assisted Reproduction, and surrogate motherhood.

"Know that if you vote for the adoption by homosexuals, you open the debate for Medically Assisted Reproduction and surrogacy, because there aren't enough adoptable infants," said party member Gerard Roche during the floor debate.

Christian Jacob, the head of opposition UMP lawmakers, said that by rushing the final approval, Mr. Hollande was running the risk of a violent confrontation with the French people.

"You're disrupting the civil code," Jean-Claude Lenoir, a UMP senator, said ahead of the final vote. "Traditional family is the main pillar of society."


You may disagree or not but you will not find many bible preachers in the french parliament.

 

[blackcherry]

You may disagree or not but you will not find many bible preachers in the french parliament.

I trust we will soon find no parliament of any so called developed country will have bible preachers .
There is progress to consider .

 

[Euroconservativ]

A funny headline: "French religious right promises to spill blood over gay marriage"

French religious right promises to spill blood over gay marriage push

French religious right???


Why are so many American websites, even some serious ones, trying to blame christians? Is there a political agenda behind it?

It sounds like the principle of the single enemy

 

[bodecea]

A funny headline: "French religious right promises to spill blood over gay marriage"

French religious right promises to spill blood over gay marriage push

French religious right???


Why are so many American websites, even some serious ones, trying to blame christians? Is there a political agenda behind it?

It sounds like the principle of the single enemy

That's a blog, you know.

 

[Euroconservativ]

That's a blog, you know.

HuffingtonPost, the most visited political website in America, says this:

Opponents in the majority Catholic country comprise a mix of Catholic hardliners, social conservatives, French Muslims and evangelical Christians.


1) Majority catholic country? Only 34% believe in a God and 5% attend church weekly

2) Practicing catholics are a small minority. Evangelicals are not even relevant.

3) Hollande got 90% of the muslim vote in 2012. His support for gay marriage was widely known before and during the election.

4) More than 95% of centre-right UMP senators have voted against gay marriage.

5) The UMP leader is not religious nor christian, and attends and supports mass protests against the bill.

 

[waltky]

French lawmakers knuckle under to gay agenda pressure...

French MPs vote for same-sex marriages
Thu, Apr 25, 2013 - French lawmakers on Tuesday defied months of angry protests to approve a bill that is to make France the 14th country worldwide to legalize same-sex marriages.

Opponents of the law vowed to fight on, quickly filing a constitutional challenge and promising more demonstrations to pressure French President Francois Hollande into backing down from signing the bill. In its second and final reading, the French National Assembly, or lower house of parliament, voted 331 to 225 to adopt the bill allowing homosexual marriages and adoptions by gay couples. French Minister of Justice Christiane Taubira hailed the approval of the bill as a “historic” moment. “It grants new rights, stands firmly against discrimination [and] testifies to our country’s respect for the institution of marriage,” she said in a statement shortly after the vote.

However, the tension remained high inside parliament as well as on the streets: Ushers ejected two protesters from the parliamentary chamber as they unfurled a protest banner. Soon after the law was voted through, lawmakers from right-wing parties filed a legal challenge with the constitutional council. Senators from the main opposition UMP and other right-wing parties said: “The definition of marriage, a fundamental principle … cannot be modified by a simple law.” Provisions allowing adoption by gay couples violate “fundamental principles” of France, including “the principle of human dignity and equality,” they argued.

Thousands of opponents of the law also refused to give up, demonstrating near to the National Assembly on Tuesday evening. “We are going to show them that this is not over,” said the campaigner known as Frigide Barjot, leader of the “Manif pour tous” (Demo for all) group that has battled the bill. She called on Hollande to hold a referendum on the issue. Another mass protest is already planned for May 26. The Catholic Bishops’ Conference of France expressed its disappointment at the law and Bishop Bernard Podvin spoke of his “deep sadness.” “Democracy has spoken,” he said. “But such a controversial law will not produce social cohesion.”

More French MPs vote for same-sex marriages - Taipei Times

 

[sfcalifornia]

Well, they did it. France not only legalizes gay marriage but makes it legal for gay couples to adopt.

Hollande Signs French Gay Marriage Law

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/19/world/europe/hollande-signs-french-gay-marriage-law.html?_r=0

 

[Katzndogz]

Resulting in riots across France and truly horrendous attacks on gays.

France: Gay couple beaten in Paris for walking arm in arm - PinkNews.co.uk

A gay couple were badly beaten in Paris on Saturday, in an incident which campaigners say is symptomatic of a 30% rise in homophobic attacks in France since debates on same-sex marriage began.

Man in Nice Beaten as Antigay Violence Sweeps France | Advocate.com

Marriage equality is not coming easy to France — in the latest act of violence against LGBTs, a man in the southern city of Nice was beaten unconscious, while a gunpowder threat was called in to the nation's assembly ahead just days before a vote on same-sex marriage.

It's not like this latest liberal oppression is being celebrated in France.

This is what happens when the government imposes its will on an unwilling population. That population resorts to direct action.

 

[waltky]

Uncle Pierre says, "It ain't right fer Fifi to go luvin' on Isabelle instead o' him...

Protest in Paris against France's gay marriage law
May 26,`13 -- Tens of thousands of people protested against France's new gay marriage law in central Paris on Sunday, and police clashed with right-wing demonstrators.

The law came into force over a week ago, but organizers decided to go ahead with the long-planned demonstration to show their continued opposition as well as their frustration with President Francois Hollande, who had made legalizing gay marriage one of his keynote campaign pledges in last year's election. Marchers set off from three separate points across Paris, and by early evening they filled the Invalides esplanade just across the Seine River from the Champs Elysees.

As night fell, several hundred protesters clashed with police, throwing bottles and chasing journalists. Interior Minister Manuel Valls said police had arrested around 100 far-right protesters who refused to leave following the end of the demonstration.

Meanwhile, in southern France, the 66th Cannes Film Festival gave the Palm d'Or, its top honor, to "Blue is the Warmest Color: The Life of Adele," a French film about a tender, sensual lesbian romance. Police estimated around 150,000 people took part in the demonstration in Paris, but march organizers claimed on their Twitter account that more than a million people did.

A similar protest in March drew about 300,000. Around 5,000 police were on duty Sunday because previous anti-gay marriage protests also had seen clashes between far-right protesters and the police.

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[Franticfrank]

Its interesting to look at the amount of protests in France against gay marriage and the lack of counter demonstrations, if you look at statistics on French attitudes to homosexuality. Seems most of the country is in favour of this, like I am. Let them have equal rights if it makes them happy...it has absolutely no effect on my life whatsoever.

 

[Euroconservativ]

Its interesting to look at the amount of protests in France against gay marriage and the lack of counter demonstrations, if you look at statistics on French attitudes to homosexuality. Seems most of the country is in favour of this, like I am. Let them have equal rights if it makes them happy...it has absolutely no effect on my life whatsoever.

According to a recent poll, 28% of french people would not like to have a gay neighbour. Versus 3% in Sweden, 7% in Spain and 13% in Germany who think the same way. Even among italians there is less homophobia (23%)

I´m quite surprised by the level of protest in France too, since is one of the less religious countries in the world. The centre-right party is against gay marriage but, i think, it will not hurt their electoral chances. In the UK and USA, however, political correctness is becoming a religion and a politician (and non-politicians) could lose his career if labeled as "anti-gay".

 

[Noomi]

^I am quite surprised by the anger against gay marriage by the French. Seems thy are more backward than I first thought.

 

[Katzndogz]

When the French elected a liberal president, they should have known what they were getting. Replace the liberal government and repeal the law.

 

[Noomi]

When the French elected a liberal president, they should have known what they were getting. Replace the liberal government and repeal the law.

You cannot give people rights, and then strip them away.