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Don't go using jargon non-sailors and non-boaters won't understand without an explanation. For the less knowledgeable people, a broad reach is a heading that has the wind coming across the boat at about a forty-five-degree angle to the stern (rear) of the boat. The flat, high container surfaces would act as inefficient sails at that angle providing at least some thrust.No, wrong yet again. A ship could do it on a broad reach. Go ask your dad. I'm finished with you if you can't stop being petulant and contrary.
You are using terms that you don't understand. Dead in the water means motionless, ZERO KNOTS of speed through water. To complicate matters, a boat or ship can be dead in the water and still making progress over ground due to current to tide.It was indeed dead in the water and adrift. The rudder will have no impact with no prop thrust. This is just basic power boating stuff.
The captain / pilot lost command of the vessel. Losing command in this case does not mean the crew conducted a mutiny.
The term “vessel not under command” means a vessel which through some exceptional circumstance is unable to manoeuvre as required by these Rules and is therefore unable to keep out of the way of another vessel.
Planes have wind-driven turbines for emergency power that deploy in a power failure. Aircraft black boxes are never without power. Apparently maritime black boxes are dependent on the ship's generators for power, so when the power failed the data recorders failed as well. The bridge voice recorders continued to function so we have an audio record, without data. There are actually two recorders on aircraft and now I know, ships one is a data recorder the other is a voice recorder.I don’t know how they compare to planes which survive 400moh impacts and an inferno
A rudder needs prop wash to have any real effect. The steering effect of a rudder without prop wash is minimal and was probably useless in this case.No, wrong again!
geeezuz fkn kriste, shut the fk up!
The ship had about 8 knots of way and could have altered course if it had the helm applied.
I was a US Navy officer, qualified Officer of the Deck, Surface Warfare officer, and modified 600 psi and 1200 psi steam plant engineer. I drove submarines, cruisers and carriers during my career. I think I am just a little bit more qualified than you in this area.A sail boat is not a power boat. Plus I already explained the difference between the rudders on a power boat and a tiller on a sailboat.
A power boat is not to have the ability to be steered unless it has propellers forcing the water past its rudder. You’re a tool.
Quite probably, but what were we disagreeing upon? I went back thirty pages and couldn’t’t find a post where we didn’t agree,I was a US Navy officer, qualified Officer of the Deck, Surface Warfare officer, and modified 600 psi and 1200 psi steam plant engineer. I drove submarines, cruisers and carriers during my career. I think I am just a little bit more qualified than you in this area.
You are so incredibly full of shit!A rudder needs prop wash to have any real effect. The steering effect of a rudder without prop wash is minimal and was probably useless in this case.
The larger the surface area of the ship to the wind creates more "sail effect". For example, in a man overboard situation, you always must position your ship upwind of the man overboard to allow the ship to "blow down" on the target.Half the posters in here feel a floating boat has zero weight or mass. It displaces water basically equally on both sides. It’s not some lightweight craft that is strongly effected by 15 mph winds in a fairly sheltered harbor and what amounts to slack tides
I did not respond to your posts! You are on the ball!Quite probably, but what were we disagreeing upon? I went back thirty pages and couldn’t’t find a post where we didn’t agree,
Uh, no! Not that long!The military could have a floating bridge for large vehicle traffic in a few months.
I can steer a ship just fine if I am moving. You are simply assuming what you think to be true.There was no effective helm as the engines were dead. No engine power = no ability to steer. This is basic stuff. You’re as dumb as dirt.
Sorry, I got confused.I did not respond to your posts! You are on the ball!
I responded to this bullshit:
tahuyaman said:
A sail boat is not a power boat. Plus I already explained the difference between the rudders on a power boat and a tiller on a sailboat.
A power boat is not to have the ability to be steered unless it has propellers forcing the water past its rudder. You’re a tool.
Where did you get all of this bullshit? Ever actually pilot a ship?When a ship has no engine power and is dead in the water, there is no effective steering ability. This is a condition called “not under command.”
When a captain calls in a mayday and says “I have no command of my ship,” That means they are helplessly adrift with no ability to steer or maneuver in any way.
Program? Are you high?Well duhhhhhhh captain crunch!
And again!
If rudder had been applied when power went down the ship would have responded to its rudder.
(unless the hydraulics program didn't call for neutral rudder.)
Every time you say something stupid I'm going to keel haul your ass!
Using a ribbon bridge the Army could bridge the harbor in a couple of days. It would take longer to bring the bridge sections to Baltimore than to build the Bridge. The Army used to practice bridging the Rhine which is wider than the harbor.Uh, no! Not that long!
Been there, done that too!Sorry, I got confused.
Sorry! Incorrect. Nowhere near the width of that harbor.Using a ribbon bridge the Army could bridge the harbor in a couple of days. It would take longer to bring the bridge sections to Baltimore than to build the Bridge. The Army used to practice bridging the Rhine which is wider than the harbor.
Flynn is calling this a "Black Swan Event" and to look DEEPER
Why do you need to know?
